Hollow Knight DLC Review and Critique - Hidden Dreams & The Grimm Troupe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hollow Knight released early 2017 to critical acclaim. In August, we got Hidden Dreams, and then in October, The Grimm Troupe. I've reviewed the base game, and I figured it would be a great time to review and critique these two small DLC expansions.
Watch my playthrough of The Grimm Troupe here: • Nightmare King Grimm &...
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Banishment footage:
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Brave the Depths of a Forgotten Kingdom
Beneath the fading town of Dirtmouth sleeps an ancient, ruined kingdom. Many are drawn below the surface, searching for riches, or glory, or answers to old secrets.
Hollow Knight is a classically styled 2D action adventure across a vast interconnected world. Explore twisting caverns, ancient cities and deadly wastes; battle tainted creatures and befriend bizarre bugs; and solve ancient mysteries at the kingdom's heart.
Game Features
- Classic side-scrolling action, with all the modern trimmings.
- Tightly tuned 2D controls. Dodge, dash and slash your way through even the most deadly adversaries.
- Explore a vast interconnected world of forgotten highways, overgrown wilds and ruined cities.
- Forge your own path! The world of Hallownest is expansive and open. Choose which paths you take, which enemies you face and find your own way forward.
- Evolve with powerful new skills and abilities! Gain spells, strength and speed. Leap to new heights on ethereal wings. Dash forward in a blazing flash. Blast foes with fiery Soul!
- Equip Charms! Ancient relics that offer bizarre new powers and abilities. Choose your favourites and make your journey unique!
- An enormous cast of cute and creepy characters all brought to life with traditional 2D frame-by-frame animation.
- Over 130 enemies! 30 epic bosses! Face ferocious beasts and vanquish ancient knights on your quest through the kingdom. Track down every last twisted foe and add them to your Hunter's Journal!
- Leap into minds with the Dream Nail. Uncover a whole other side to the characters you meet and the enemies you face.
- Beautiful painted landscapes, with extravagant parallax, give a unique sense of depth to a side-on world.
- Chart your journey with extensive mapping tools. Buy compasses, quills, maps and pins to enhance your understanding of Hollow Knight’s many twisting landscapes.
- A haunting, intimate score accompanies the player on their journey, composed by Christopher Larkin. The score echoes the majesty and sadness of a civilisation brought to ruin.
- Complete Hollow Knight to unlock Steel Soul Mode, the ultimate challenge!
An Evocative Hand-Crafted World
The world of Hollow Knight is brought to life in vivid, moody detail, its caverns alive with bizarre and terrifying creatures, each animated by hand in a traditional 2D style.
Every new area you’ll discover is beautifully unique and strange, teeming with new creatures and characters. Take in the sights and uncover new wonders hidden off of the beaten path.
If you like classic gameplay, cute but creepy characters, epic adventure and beautiful, gothic worlds, then Hollow Knight awaits!
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Didn't realise that the Hidden Station was DLC, getting to the Abyss before that must have sucked
It probably did lol
I mean
King’s station-
@@Minilitive I mean it's technically from NieR Gestalt, but yeah.
I think the reason that you can fight the two new dream bosses multiple times is because unlike the other dream bosses, the two you're fighting aren't dead in the real world. Therefore, in the dream world they can be incarnated infinitely.
Adam Fox but was grim ded?
@@exotichollow4711 Technically, yeah. Grimmchild you have is now the new Troupe Master, and old Grimm is dead with his flames fed to the Grimmchild
@@exotichollow4711 He was referring to grey prince zote and white defender, not grim.
I know
Exotic Hollow debatable he was ever alive at any point in the dlc, or that he’s even of this world.
New playable character in the new dlc
Cherry: *NEW GAME WITH NEW CHARACTER*
Mason new game with old character
*COMING IN 2021!!!!*
@@icyboi7039 hopefully
@@dotsyt7765 He means a new playable character.
@@icyboi7039 good jock
15:37 divine even says "shadow and fire will dance so prettily, i think..." refering to grimm and the knight fighting
I never thought of it that way.
Oh hi
No matter how many times he killed me, I could never get mad at nightmare king Grimm for one reason: Every time I started the fight up, that music hit me.
Led_ink agreed.
What about the bow?
Natalie Gibbs NKG doesn’t bow
also its completely fair
triangle triangle indeed!
you probably didnt notice but in grimm troupe the zote and bretta quest was finished if you read all the precepts bretta will start to get bored of zote and if you get all 10 candles she will leave to another kingdom searching for her true love (and knowing team cherry dying)
Dam, I missed that part.
I beat all the bosses without knowing their story.
FuzzyD I honestly think they've killed off more characters than a From Soft and Game of Thrones combined.
Yeah them killing Leg Eater with the Grim Troupe dlc doesnt bode well for the rest of our beloved bugs withthe upcoming Gods and Glory dlc. . .
Team cherry and Andrew hussie in competition for the kill streaks
I think she'll be fine.
that dude from the tent also gives you a flame without fighting him which is pretty useful
Yeah but no grimmchild
DaKingEevee did you read the comment before yours?
Who?
@@whitniewoodard3273 brumm. he's in deepnest after beating troupe master grimm
@@theb2rd ??? Why would you need a flame AFTER u beat TMG? The only way 2 fight him is getting ALL of the flames and Brumm talks 2 u about BANISHING the GT.
(Edit: TMG=Troupe Master Grimm and GT=Grimm Troupe)
In my opinion the fetch quests weren't too bad, annoying for us that already completed the game yes, but I feel that the grimm troupe is an overarching quest, while you are exploring new areas or revisiting places with new upgrades such as the double jump, you are just going to stumble upon the firekeepers, returning to Grimm on your own journey, not prioritizing him.
My only problem is that such a huge quest was hidden behind a secret room that was hidden behind a secret wall that was in an already hidden maze area behind another secret wall...
I mean, Dark Souls had the whole Artorias expansion hidden behind a trinket that had to be brought to a specific out-of-the-way location, but I've gotta agree that having the lantern hidden in those cliffs is a bit much.
Yeah, it's not nearly as annoying if you just take the fetch quests as you go rather than prioritizing it on a completed file. And I had no issue randomly stumbling across the bonfire. The essence tree in Howling Cliffs pretty much guides you right to it.
I think that the Lantern placement is perfect.
1) Even if you never find the "secret Area" you can get free access to it by the Stag Nest
2) once you're there you explore the area and that destructible wall is easy to spot
of course if you've already got 100% in the game it's a different story.
The problem with Grimm's quest is that you HAVE to keep the charm equipped, and you have so many better charms that you're not gonna put it on during your journey.
I'm playing through the game for the first time, and I just beat the Hollow Knight (at 96%). I was probably at about 20 or 30% when the DLC came out, and I was like... 'Nah, not gonna look up what the DLC is about - I want to encounter that myself.' Then, when I never did, I assumed it was something post-last-boss (like a lot of the content in a Pokémon game, only with the Elite Four). Turned out there was no such thing as 'post-last-boss', and now it also turns out that I could have been integrating these quests and acquiring these charms etc. along-side the main game (which seems to make much more sense)... I have to admit... I feel like this DLC was poorly integrated, and that they willfully allowed the inherent non-linearity of the game to bite them in the ass.
I actually found it completely by accident on my first playthrough while visiting the Howling Cliffs!! When I didn't understand why nothing was happening after activating the lantern, I searched on the internet. One reddit comment on Reddit was just so perfect in that I completely believed him: "Return to Hallownest. It's pretty hard to spot but something is different now!!"
I also found the Path of Pain by accident! But it's worth saying that I hit every inch of ceiling, wall and floor in the game with my sword!!
Interesting fun fact: the White Lady has some new dialogue if you go to her with the Grimmchild at your side. She'll have even more to say if it's fully upgraded.
It's implied that she's knowledgeable about the Troupe, maybe having seen them before. Further, she makes it clear that their Ritual is one of propagation. By completing it and killing Grimm... we were actually reincarnating him, eventually to be even stronger than he was with the addition of Hallownest's nightmares. The completed Grimmchild is literally the new Grimm, having absorbed the Nightmare Essence from the old one with his defeat. According again to the White Lady, the Grimmchild is like a distant cousin to us, a Vessel. I guess instead of imprisoning the being held within, this vessel is instead meant to be a fresh body from which the being can continue living.
its going to be fucking hilarious when grimm 2 wakes up in the black egg.
edit: or godhome.
@@tophatoctopus1997 lmao ikr
I hope we get to fight Nightmare King Grimm 2 in Siksong
@@KingNios silksong*
That’s..... extremely unsettling. Gosh darn Hollow Knight being an expert at creeping me out
I unfortunately did the banishment route. While I figured it was a definitive divergent path I had figured that either way I'd be fighting Grimm one more time since after the first fight he said to return so we could have our last dance together. So I thought that the banishment route was the "good" choice and the ritual route was the "bad" choice. I didn't know about the ending charms and that's cool that you get different rewards for different choices but I was bummed to learn that by doing what I perceived to be the "good" choice that I had locked myself out of experiencing a cool and difficult boss fight. So now I have to do another playthrough which is a bit irksome. As much as I love this game it does bother me how the developers seem to want to hide away and lock their players out of content.I understand the concept of hidden secrets and all that but with the addition of new areas and bosses and such, all of them seem to be hidden away in seemingly obscure areas that you'd have no real reason to revisit. It would have been nice of them to add an NPC who would kind of tip the players off about these locations when new content was dropped or give some sort of warning about banishing the troupe.
"I hear that one of the troupe wants the stop the ritual. It's probably for the best but I can't help but feel like their sudden departure from this place might feel a bit anti-climatic. Their leader has an aura of strength about him. I imagine a fight with him would prove to be a true test for any warrior. Maybe that's just me though..."
"My father once told me of a horrible place of torture located in the White palace,. So horrid it was that it was sealed and walled off."
"At this time of year I always think back to that strange lantern I found in the Howling Cliffs. So strong was the aura of foreboding around it that I dared not touch it yet it still haunts my dreams."
"It's strange.The Dung Defender is gone yet the place still smells as though he never left..."
Kite That's exactly why I always look up where the savefiles are located so I can copy them to have a backup. At least for auto saving games.
You are totally right.
But now at least godhome exists so you can fight every boss
Well at least banishment gives you a a way better charm
‘a vessel’
HMM, WONDER WHO THAT COULD BE
yeah, the Hollow Knight, we know
Yusef Ameli no it zote the mighty
The two biggest debates in hollow knight: is hornet void and is site a vessel
@@josephdavison4189 no and no
Hollow Knight is one of my favorite games ever and I can't wait to replay it on the switch.
Can someone tell me if this is a virus?
When is it coming out on the switch?
Edwin Gibrant Diaz now
I have it on my xbox however I have the voidheart edition I believe the 3rd DLC
One thing to note about the fetch quests: for people who are playing playing the DLC along with the main game, the flames will most likely be collected whilst completing other tasks. It won't be as much of a drag as for players who have already finished the game. Apart from this, I entirely agree with all your praise and criticism (even the 106% thing!).
But you have to carry the grimmchild irc. And this charm takes 2 notches. It isnt really passiv collecting.
honestly the lantern is so out of the way i personally only found the grim troupe by looking through the wiki and randomly finding it. the charms are integrated much more naturally tho.
well, for me first time playing the game, I only discoverd the Grimm Troupe after I was at 90 some percent completion...
Yeah I doubt that.
I beat the game before even finding out about where to even to start the grimm troupe dlc. This is coming from someone who found the path of pain while going through white palace to get my first half of the kingsoul since I had no idea where the other one could be lol.
Yeaa well this didn't happen to me. I just finished the game and I only found out about the Grimm Troupe after having completed the game for 90+%, thus all of the flame collecting was backtracking
Grimmchild. Not Fiend.
Whoops.
Hollow knight is a great contender for goty.
its probably my second favorite game of all time
if anyone is wondering my favorite is bloodborne
This game is tied with Dark Souls and Bloodborne for my top three all time favorite games.
without a doubt it's my GOTY. i recommend it to everyone i can
It deserves GotY. I'm not even very far in it and it's just been amazing on top of awesome.
I admit that I liked the Grimmkin fights quite a bit more than you did. Well, once I realized that before they attack, their position is _on your screen,_ not in the environment, which is probably the most subtle 4th wall break I've ever encountered, and it delighted me to realize this. Their attacks are tricky, but, like everything else in the DLC, one at a time, so it's never overwhelming and you always have time to heal. Also, they kill any enemies that could interfere before you get there, so they're more like minibosses, and they're pretty fun to fight with Grimm Jr. Though, that's just my opinion.
The fact that they mirror your movement isn't really a 4th wall break...
I went for banishment on my main profile because that is my good hollow knight profile and i liked the thought of the melody charm better. I upgraded all the fragile charms then i banished the troupe. Side note the 106% pressumedly means that you can get an 100% steel heart achievement without doing certain tasks like completing the trial of the fool. I might be wrong .
Abyss Knight i agree but i think it would be better if the percentage will be split into 3 (official, hidden dreams and grimm troupe) i would like it if the hidden dreams will have 6 percent (3 times zote 2 times white defender and clearing glade of hope) which will display in pink next to the normal percent. And grimm troupe is the same but will show up in red next to the hidden dream percentage. It would be cool if you still got 100% achievement if you got 98(white) - 1%(pink) - 1%(red). The 6 percent can also be rounded to 100% by each original percent giving more percents
Abyss Knight
You can indeed beat steel soul mode without doing certain tasks. I beat steel soul with 104% and I was missing lots of charms and I hadn’t done trial of the fool either.
I banished them before I got to fight nightmare king, so I never knew he existed, but when I played this game, Gods and Glory was out. Wanting to fight grimm again because he was so fun, I went to the Godhome, hoping he would have his own statue just like the other bosses, I perfected it and eventually beat the radiant version without taking a hit. Now I didn't know what to do, out of my curiosity, I blindly dream nailed the statue expecting nothing. And... surprise!! My dream come true, Grimm on steroids, I have yet to beat him, but I am really excited to put my skills to the test and destroy him
Edit : thanks for the heart, means a lot! Btw the flame where meet the guy who wants to banish them was the first one I found
“And the fourth will be a whole new adventure!”
*silksong announced*
How did he know
It was supposed to be a dlc and then got turned into a full game
It was in the kickstarter
Its funny, i played the Voidheart edition for my first playthrough, and i came upon the Lantern incredibly early. I went in blind and was unaware of the amount of upgrades I'd receieve, so by the time i had the dash and mantis claw, i explored literally everywhere that didnt specifically require the monarch wings, just because i could maneuver well enough. So i had explored the entirety of Howling Cliffs and found the Lantern by chance, but couldn't Dreamnail it. After maybe 6 or 7 hours of gameplay later when i actually started roaming with the Dreamnail, and thats when i came back. It felt so organic to me. I had no idea it was post game content. They tackled those DLCs from the viewpoint of someone playing the game for the first time and i think that is wonderfully unique.
Also, i grabbed the Dream Shield pretty early into my gameplay, it saved me plenty of times.
Just so you know, if you upgrade all the fragile charms before defeating NK Grimm, Divine's tent disappears as well. Also, if you need Geo, I recommend doing the trial of the Conqueror. As far as I can tell it's the most efficient of the three when time, Geo and difficulty are factored in.
Yep. Doing it 18 times is painful though, I suggest collecting relics and farming the Carver Hatchers in Deepnest to change things up if it gets boring.
Goddamn, I want to watch half an hour's worth of goodness, but I also want to experience the DLC fresh. Guess I'll be back in a couple days.
If the dev adds the feature dat ur mask will be left wherever u died and if the king wasnt dead and came back to check his protected memory in path of pain, he would be like " who the fak moved all the skulls from The Abyss into my palace"
14:18 He disappears during the "forest of thorns" attack, meaning you cant damage him while he's casting it, unlike in the regular fight.
" Another candle lights at the alter to *his m a j e s t y* "
I can't tell if that was intended or not but that comment was funny
I greatly appreciate you taking the time and effort to create such an informative and detailed review. Very nice!
In all honesty, this is the best Hollow Knight video I've seen while on my binging spree these past 2 weeks. Great video my guy
Anyone else notice that the ‘Monarch Wings’ is the knight’s cloak but turns into wings?
The Nightmare King was an amazing fight, though extremely difficult. I am fine that they had an alternate option to proceed (banishment), but I agree that it would stink to stumble into that by accident. As a note, Grimm's sleeping position is completely a riff on the whole sleeping vampire trope (update down from the ceiling with his cloke wrapped around him), which is in turn a reference to how bats sleep.
I played my very first playthrough and found the red lantern about as early as possible, which made the "fetch quest" feel less back-and-forth fetchy since I would discover an area for the first time with the lantern in it. I never did beat Nightmare Grim v2, but I love that its in the game.
Still haven't beaten Nightmare King Grimm, but the first fight was fun and I'm sure I'll enjoy the second as I get used to it. Hopefully the next DLC keeps up the quality of boss fights!
Nice review. I actually managed to find the Path of Pain on my own, but gave up after rather quickly deciding that my platforming skills were just not where they needed to be to take it on. I loved the Grimm fights though.
These were my thoughts on the DLC exactly! Especially the beauty of the final fight being like a dance between the two. NKGrimm has ascended to my 3rd fav boss, with the true final boss being 1st and mantis lords being 2nd. The margin between them is atomic though, mind you.
It's amazing they do all this for free. I am very eager to see what awaits in the final huge free DLC, and then what could possibly be there for in a PAID one.. which I for once dont mind. Not only are they using DLC as it should be used, as EXPANSIONS instead of filling in holes (cough EA Bandai etc), but this is probably the first game I felt I didnt pay enough and would love to throw them more money
I think that the fetch quest was pretty good and definitely the best fetch quest that I’ve played.
1. It is usually done at the end of the game because of the strength of the enemies and their locations. Also, it will be played at the end if you are coming back to a save file when the DLC comes out.
2. Because it is at the end, it is essentially a world tour taking you back into the world that you fell in love with the first time around.
3. The best part of this fetch quest is it’s tie to the Grimm and NKG boss fights. All 3 of the enemies from the quest use very similar attacks to the bosses which gives you time to prepare without even knowing it.
the restarting bosses, i completely agree, waiting like 30 seconds or so for the battle to restart did my head in
Wow! That is an analysis! Congratz!
I wholeheartedly agree with your critique regarding the death animations.
So glad to be playing this in Switch now with all the DLC included. Can't wait to enjoy it
My personal favorite is The Grimm Troupe. The music was sick! It took me a while to catch on the pattern of Grimm's fight but it wasn't so bad after I learned. I only beat him recently and won't probably do the Nightmare King Grimm battle because I don't really think I'm ready lmao.
Hidden dreams also buffed nosk, and I think you can copy your save files, allowing you to do both banishment and nightmare
Fetch quests help pace the troupe for first time players. Would be a good thing to have someone walk into NGK with a broken nail being none the wiser that it was just a DLC.
wow. this is crazy. to think so many changes were made to this game since it came out.
i just recently played it on the Switch just before the Godmaster update and i have to say. im glad i picked it up so late lol.
the game feels complete AF. i didnt know a lot of the bosses were easier before, like Nosk and Lord Traitor lol
What item makes you have those cracks that go across the screen when you get hit? I have played like 200 hours or more of hollow knight and not seen those yet.
Played pirated version of Hollow Knight on my Mac, decided to buy it. And I did buy the game yesterday (halloween sale lol). Worth every single penny. This is my first 'metrovania' impression, I'm so fucking impressed!
And guess what? I can even load my pirated version save file on the steam version. No need to configure anything, just spin the game up and load the save! Fuck, this guilty feeling for not buying the game on the first place :'D
Tadho I did that too :p
Don’t feel guilty. Without being able to rent games or try them out. Pirating is the only true way to see if you want to buy a game. Some games aren’t worth being bought. But worth being played
Tips for nightmare grimm who I've beaten. I find it easier to dodge the bullet hell attack on the right. Dash away then slash at grimm when he is doing his uppercut. You can sometimes get a heal off when he is doing his ground spikes and after the last fire pillar in the fire pillar attack
Ingeniousclown: I wish I could play this boss again
Team cherry: adds godhome
I think the reason why you can refight zote is because one of his precepts says “if you’re enemy is stronger than you, then get stonger” or something similar.
9:23 The Cracks In The Wall We’re The Way It Was Supposed To Be Found
Boy did I *love* the Path of Pain, makes me happy just thinking about it...
Hollow knight is just about my favorite game ever and I’m so glad it came out on the switch because I found out about it through it being on the e shop and I have almost 100 hours in my original save file and have done everything from all 10 zotes and 5 white defenders, along with NKG. By far the nightmare king was my favorite boss and after defeating the 10 zotes when I came back to fight NKG again(he was the last thing I did) I only beat him on about a few tries. But still the graceful dance of the knight vs the king and the feeling you finally overtaking him was by far one of the best feeling and money’s I’ve had in hollow knight
I also really liked that they buufed Nosk and added this agressive ghost in the Spirit Glade in the first DLC. It feels like all DLCs are rounding out the main game. And Team Cherry mentioned that we might see Grimm again. I´m guessing in the Hornet DLC. This one will probably be a prequel.
For some reason I don’t see the DLC’s in the steam store page. Are they free addons or do they not show up in America or something?
I have just recently started the game and I am at 87% completion. I looove walking through the same paths over and over and I found the Grimm Troupe this way, which is always nice "what the hell is that? Great, new things to do!!). I still have many places to find, so I go through the videos carefully to avoid too many spoilers, but I have to say that the flame quest feels fine at this point because I still have many hard bosses to defeat and so I can do something else instead ( I guess it is a nice thing for us players who are not so skilled and get a tad frustrated at the 1000th attempt to kill the same boss...) Right now I am collecting geos to get the last unbreakable charm, and I am looking forward to Silksong! Love this game with all my heart, even though it is soooo difficult at times.
Good review, and as a side note, I do believe Nightmare King's bullet hell sections are a tad bit faster than the normal Grimm's. Hard to tell, though.
I went to banish the troupe but when Braumm activated the... flame thing I had second thoughts. What if I miss a fight? What if Dirtmouth will be empty again without the red tents? What if I can't upgrade my fragile charms? I needed more time to think... so I just left the trembling room and I never saw Braumm again lol. I'm glad I did this choice because the charm with the little grimm companion is my favourite thing in the game, especially when I am on the bench and it's sleeping near me, it's so cute
The Grimm Troupe's fetch quest is made more tolerable when you realize its meant to be done on a fresh playthrough.
All the flames are placed in such a way that if you start the Grimm Troupe content as early as you possibly can, you will find them as you play casually through the rest of the game. The reason why many of us had a real issue with it is because a lot of us first experienced it on our 100% complete save files.
Besides, like you said in the video, its worth it. Grimm and Nightmare King Grimm are my favorite fights in the game right now. That may change with future updates, but it seems unlikely. Team Cherry are really going to have to work hard to top the Nightmare King Grimm boss fight.
God it still gives me nightmares having to see that Heart burst open before the boss fight it took me so long to beat him
I read the warnings people posted about Banishment, but since I had two 100% files it wasn't a huge deal. It wouldn't even have mattered what ending I got for which mode, you don't die in dreams in Steel mode. So all in all, I thought it was an amazng DLC 👏👏👏
22:20 Yep, that was me. Actully, I found the fourth flame first, so I also missed out on a journal entry for the third flame bearer dudes. And the thing is, I didn't know that the choice was un-retractable =(
Me after beating the second dlc: Man that nightmare heart grim fight sure was hard.
Me after reaching grim in the fourth gauntlet of god seeker:
I know I’m late but for the Nightmare King Grimm Boss fight he does the bullet hell faze at 75, 50, and 25 percent health, so you can use that to track how close you are to beating him.
Can you please have a look at awesomenauts and give us your opinion on it ?
I’ll admit I started playing pretty recently, and I had no idea the palace ground station was a DLC addition
came for paladins and stayed for hollow-knight and Isaac :D thx for the vid and the 1h vod! thx
Where did you hear that there were going to be four DLC's? I thought it was only gonna be Hidden Dreams, The Grimm Troupe and the Hornet DLC.
Here you go: www.kickstarter.com/projects/11662585/hollow-knight/posts/1887534
Scroll down to the bulleted list at the bottom.
Well, I'm excited to be wrong. Many thanks!
I had actually thought the same as you until I decided to look it up. My script even initially said that exact thing, haha. Glad I looked it up though!
@@stretch7293 they didn't know that 3 years ago
How do you get to the npc that gives you the new zote fight
Weaver Song, Grub Song, GrimmChild, Glowing Womb.
I call this the Army Combo
With Grub Song the weavers can collect soul for you, this causes the hatchlings to spawn and then attack. On top of this the Grimm Child is also attacking.
If you have the Defender Crest the Hatchlings become Turd Bombs
The only thing I'm waiting for is Zote's DLC
It took me around three play sessions over three days to beat Nightmare King Grimm and I couldn't agree more with that last bit about how long it takes to get back to his fight.
My experience with the path of pain: it was the very last thing I did, I already knew what lied at the end and I knew what the path itself would be like. I went into it telling myself I didn’t have to finish it. I got to the end and phew yeah that last part that’s talked about in this video. But I got past it and exactly like ingenious panicked and got myself killed. But while I was sitting on the bench back at the beginning I didn’t feel bad.. I had already told myself that I didn’t have to do this so when I died it meant I didn’t have to do it any longer and I felt a huge wave of relief.
First tip you have for doing the backflip kick attack is a little poor you say don't run away but thats what you do then save your shadow dash for the fire bs after the kick
Like ever when your saying doing run away and dash threw him you get hit after you dash threw him
I found Path of Pain's entrance just due to my habit of hitting literally every flat wall to check for secrets. You're wrong in saying that there's white bugs or spirit statues in everywhere needed, though. I had to restart in several other places than the end fight since most checkpoint platforms don't have a statue, but it's possible I missed some white bugs to farm.
Consider the following: using a combination of the hunters journal and the dream nail for a lore friendly way to refight any boss
Path of Pain took me ~4-8 hours to finish... the last section taking me the entire time it took me to get it... Was so satisfied when I finished it and I finally took ate some food
Ah yes, the amazing dlc : silksong
"A new DLC with a new playable character!"
Team Cherry: *Laughs in new game and 3 years of development* "Sure."
13:38 small error, it's not the penultimate boss fight, that would be the previous one.
20:38
Dream gate: See what happens when you disobey me?
The Nigtmare King Grimm is one of my favorite bosses in hollow knight
Even though it took me 3 hours
The teleport is extremely useful for the grey mourner quest
So i only recently realized this but i think that Grey Prince Zote's title is actually a reference to Oblivion, more accurately the Grand Champion of the Arena who goes by the same title of Grey Prince.
Well, I didn't have shadow dash while fighting Nightmare King, so that was fun.
It would have been cool if each time you died a box appears outside her house with the player merchandise in the box showing that beretta is thinking that you are like weak to grey prince zote
The forest of needles-attack is actually a bit different for nightmare king grimm,as nightmareking grimm disappears from the stage completely while doing it,wheras grimm remains on the stage and is still attackable.
You can still get the Carefree Melody charm and be able to fight Nightmare King Grimm, with the Godmaster content pack.
What you should do is, upgrade your fragile charms (if you haven’t already) then go to Deepnest and talk to Brumm.
Then go to Howling Cliffs to the Flame Torch and banish the Grimm Troupe. Then you can go up to Dirtmouth and talk to Nymm to get the Carefree Melody charm. Then go to the Junk Pit in Royal Waterways and, (you need a Simple Key to access Godhome, for people who haven’t unlocked it yet) go to Godhome. You can fight NKG (Nightmare King Grimm) in Godhome! Easy!
I feel like everything in the white palace after the path of pain's entrance, is actually more difficult. Path of Pain is super generous with the soul statues, they might as well be informal save points. And when your last stable ground checkpoint is nowhere near another soul statue, you'll effectively have 15 attempts to reach the next one, your 9 masks + 6 soul charges to restore your health.
people really got caught with their pants down at the end too, which was weird to me. Because that stretch of the obstacle course leaves your last checkpoint next to a soul statue. Any and every time i lost health, I'd immediately use it to top off. So when I reached the dual bosses at the end, I had full health and soul to work with. easy peasy, I could even afford to play recklessly lmao
meanwhile, the rest of path of pain isn't as generous with the statues. yes it has benches, but not being able to heal made every attempt a lot more stressful because i did _not_ want to get dragged back to my last, very distant bench. I ended up completing white castle as a whole with 1 mask left lol
NKG’s thorn forest is changed. He doesn’t appear during the attack, making it an even smaller Telegraph
Gotta say, the way you describe fighting the Nightmare King made me want to revisit this DLC... but, nope, even just regular old Grimm is still too much of a pain in my ass.
That vessel by the Pale King is the hollow knight dude.
also, do you need the grimm child on when you beat nightmare grimm for the upgrade
Nope! You can replace that charm with something useful.
This game is awesome
i havent completed the game yet, but i think the white defender is my favorite fight thusfar
the pain.. 19:16 that part make me give up and go to sleep! but i did it in the next day! THE PAIN.. XD
"I wish I could take him on again"
Godmaster: *allow me to introduce myself*
My opinion on the Path of Pain is as follows: It’s catering to a niche of the player base. Those that are more comfortable with a game like Celeste or Ori than a typical metroidvania. On the one hand, it is somewhat ridiculous how difficult the path can be, but since it is out of the way to the point that I wouldn’t be surprised if without dataminers it would remain a secret, with a reward so minimal that it’s not worth doing unless you love platforming in the first place. Part of me wishes they put the time into making the grimmkin enemies less annoying instead, but I do have to acknowledge how much fun I had with the path, and how high-quality the platforming was on the whole, regardless of the fact that only I and a few others will really love it.
Great video. I wholeheartedly agree with the obscure DLC locations, and the long restart time with the boss. Other than that, I absolutely love these expansions! The dream bosses are fun, free content and the quality of life additions are just that.
Nightmare King Grimm was an absolute bitch to conquer, but once I did, it truly felt like an elegant dance by the end - I was in a sort of a trance state! Was it a fight or a tango? I don't know - I could only think of dodging and attacking. I lost all sense of time and structure, which stagger was this now? the 5th? 8th? Who cares, I just beat him! Such a wonderful boss battle.
Path of Pain, even if I had to look up where it was, was fantastic as well. Just like the White Palace, but even harder. I died. A lot. I got frustrated, it felt imposing and hardly possible, but I pulled through, room by room. I think the last part is etched in the back of my skull at this point - felt a huge rush as I dashed under the saw and landed in the final room, only to find two enemies! Luckily I could tank their hits and spam my way to victory. I didn't get much of a tangible reward, but I felt like an absolute champion afterwards. Such a fun level.
I think the later half of "Sealed Vessel" has grown tiring to listen to, though. :-P
“ The NKG fight, who I wish I could fight again.” Consider your wish granted!
Last time I was this satisfied about beating a boss( nightmare king ) was in 2016 when I beat the final boss of undertale on the genocide route.
I started playing Hollow Knight around a month ago at my boyfriends house, he only begun two days before me. While he stopped playing because of keyboard controls, I felt great with my controller. I stumbled upon the path of pain by accident, half a hour before I had to go home, yet I tried my best. I even got to the last obstacle in this time, but had to give up so I could get my bus. The next day I race through the palace in what felt like no time at all and easily passed the last one too, to face the guards. I almost died but somehow I managed to kill them. I felt so great after this, I wanted to do it all over again, but the path was gone.
Also Nightmare King Grimm was my favorite boss in this game so far, right now I'm trying to get his radiant version in the godmaster dlc.
The last room in the path of pain took me 3 on and off hours total.