Ted Lieu On Lack Of SCOTUS Oversight: ‘Who Do They Think They Are?’ | The Katie Phang Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ธ.ค. 2022
- On Thursday, Reverend Rob Schenck spoke in front of the House Judiciary Committee at a hearing regarding alleged ethical breaches at the Supreme Court. Rep. Ted Lieu was at this hearing and joins Katie Phang to discuss.
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That is kinda scary that the Supreme Court is accountable to no one.
Terrifying really
For life, as well.
They can be impeached, just like a president can.
Absolutely
Oh well we get what we deserve. I bet there are Americans that don't even know what a Supreme Courts (now Supreme Church) is.
Corruption at the highest court is 100% unacceptable. Impeachment should be on the table.
We As Americans need to start protesting there impeachment
Something has to be changed. It's obvious that some of these justices are compromised.
Absolutely
@@yvonnegray3428 deefinately
Jordan he's not president
We have to have rules and oversight when it comes to SCOTUS. We can no longer rely on our justices being honest and honorable people.
@Jimmy Olsen
C'mon grandma.
They are basically self governing.
And only responsible to themselves.
That has to change old man. 🤡🤡
He said we need to.
And he’s right.
Liberal supreme court judges destroyed honer and honesty back in the 70s. They see their job as circumventing the limits of the constitution not in interpreting those limits.
We've NEVER been able to rely on justices being honest and honorable people, it's only recently it's become so apparent due to public scrutiny. It needs addressing for sure.
@@warrenparker8282
Was it comical when Trump received the middle finger from 3 conservative judges grandma?
They must be re-vetted and several removed for perjury.
We need unbiased justices
@Jimmy Olsen
You date clowns old man? 🤡🤡
When did they swear under oath that they would never vote against the holy Roe?
@@johannkarsten Some of the justices in this matter said in the confirmation hearings, which are under oath, that Roe was settled precedent, definitely giving the false impression that they weren't going to revisit it. This was given the lie when they overturned it on their own initiative, rather than as part of a suit brought before the court. The fact that 2 of these judges had only recently been appointed further corroborates that they misled the Senate Judiciary Committee' confirmation hearings.
You might think that because they didn't outright say they wouldn't overturn it, that this gives them some wiggle room, but they were under oath, and a Supreme Court Justice is held to a higher standard. They were deceptive in their answers, and that is definitely short of the level of probity required of a SCJ.
@@barryschwarz But remember, THEY ARE EXPERTS at Judicial Law, right?
They were all coached, vetted & grilled pre-confirmation Hearings and figured out precisely how they would dance & tiptoe around hot-button issues w/o hanging themselves. They 'played' the Democrats & celebrate it!
Being deceptive wouldn't be viewed as impeachable.
Lying would be but still you'd need many votes fr both halves of Congress to remove anyone.
That said, the radical right plants installed onto the SCOTUS have every intention of railroading their radical agendas. Overturning Roe was them just getting started.
They do not care the public views the Court with vehement disdain, as long as they ram thru their agenda.
@@synchronicity1470 "Being deceptive wouldn't be viewed as impeachable." It might be. Dems have already been having that conversation. Also they could be impeached for that and other things, like Thomas' conflict of interest, for bringing the SC into disrepute, which is corroborated by polls. SC currently is at its lowest favoured.
But I think a better idea is to establish a code of ethics, which the SC does not have, unlike every other court in the land.
Nauseating what has become of the “Supreme” court.
that might b me i passed gas in youre face
me too
The Founders were painfully naive when they assumed that the honor system would hold our system of government together.
I guess people were more innocent at that time than now
No they weren’t. They wrote into the constitution that justices "shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour." That right there tells you they didn’t believe they would always act ethically. Unsurprisingly they also allowed for a process to remove justices who didn’t act in a manner befitting their position. Samuel Chase was a SCJ impeached and removed from office in 1805 less than 2 decades after the constitution was ratified. Proving that not only were they skeptical that justices could play nice under some kind of honor system. They were willing to enforce proper behavior. Id say the founders were actually far more distrustful of justices than government officials today.
Same people who compromised, literally, the humanity of an entire race, so yeah, it was extremely naive.
What’s more naive is the idea that the court is not politically influenced.
I know that ppl THINK that’s why lifetime appointments make “sense” but only if you don’t think they’re just playing the long con. They are. Look at Alito. Thomas. Scalia. Etc. They just wait for the “right time” to openly demonstrate their corruption. Even Chief Justice Roberts. It’s sickening to think that we have no power to hold these people accountable even at the federal level.
Back then honor meant something. For example, those who broke a sworn oath where ostracized from society. Now, they are given speaking tours and celebrated. Different times.
the founders didn't say it has to be 9 justices but checks and balances don't work if we don't use them the republicans just packed the court
Thank you Congressman Lieu! The federalist society just had an annual anniversary where the newest justices were celebrated with standing ovations.
My boss taught me that people will do anything they can get away with. That’s what's wrong with the corrupt judges.
Enacting new US laws for SCOTUS is a MUST. NO PERSON IS ABOVE THE LAW, EVEN SUPREME COURT JUDGES.
YES
HA HA HA so funny. Don't you realize we have a two tier "justice" system in Paper Tiger?
well considering that many of them have broken the law, Thomas more than one, and crickets? that isn't true anymore, if it ever was. And trump is still running around inciting violence which has killed and harmed people. so...America is in ICU at this point.
That has become MORE difficult now that Kirsten Sinema left the democratic party, we no longer can expect to get laws through as easily as we could have with a majority in the senate.
Idiocracy....That Court stands between you and tyrannical partisan greedy politicians and big money special interest groups trying to change the Bill of Rights.
No ethical rules for “Supreme” Court Justices. Appallingly nauseating!
Absolutely
They sleep on Nails .
There should be 4 years term for judges. It is not long term career. They had forgotten that they as judges are NOT above the law. Especially Clarence Thomas who had already violated the law system.
@@wombatzzzz8446 Look at Clarence Thomas's wife involved in stopping the steal nonsense thing. When his wife's name was released, he took revenge (I predicted he will). He started the abortion and other issues. Created chaos among women. Think about his revenge.
God bless Clarence Thomas. Protector of babies!✌❤🍩
@@wombatzzzz8446 Clarence Thomas did not report income his wife received for political activities as is required by law. That is the first thing he did. Secondly, he SHOULD have recused himself for the case involving Drumpf's communication records when his wife had communicated with Drumpf on many occasions as Drumpf's own staff testified. As case, where he was the ONLY dissenting vote on the court. He is corrupt through and through.
@@donutdan1508 God the creative force is everywhere in the whole universe.
@@wombatzzzz8446 you dumb fool! What do you call ruling on a case involving your spouse?
They are telling us WHO they are but we are not able to believe it. We say Oh no that could never happen, but it already has. We can fix it if we want to. But right now it's broken.
To bad. Elections have consequences you see. Mitch and Trump stuck it to you. Swivel on it.
We need to hurry up and do that...
@@deker0954 you'll be crying when you begin to understand that what they have done to women will mean the death of republican power for decades to come .
Agree
@@deker0954 We'll see who spins on it.Your man child Trump is about to go down in flames!
Couldn't have been said better..."who do they think they are"
It's nice to see Representative Lieu again!
Impeach! Thomas NEEDS to step down. Jeeeeeez! So corrupt!
A refreshing and insightful interview. Thanks to you both.
They, just like tfg, will just continue doing whatever they want, daring anyone to try to stop them.
Pretty much
Forget "try". It needs to be done now. Now that it has been shown that 6 of them were bought and paid for with dark money, even Republican members of Congress should vote to clean it up.
While that is happening Biden needs to expand the court to 13. "Roe" can be revisited (there is now precedent). Any other cases that look like they may have been decided because of religious views instead of law should also be revisited... separation of church and state. We have a constitution.
The current court has no creditability, and the stain of illegitimacy can never be washed off of 6 of the members. Internationally it brings America's reputation down to that of Russia. America... Russia... same/same !
They think they are above the law that they are supposed to upheld and lead by example. They are in fact worst than the ones they have been putting in jail.
Your country really needs a deep clean on Supreme Court and hold them accountable or you are all lost. They are for sale for the highest bidder 🤮💩💩💩
Absolutely, unfortunately the morons who elected Trump president were suckered when Trump told them he was going to clean the swamp, but instead he polluted the 'swamp' even more. The NEW Republicans are more uneducated, stupider, more backwards than any other generatiion of conservatives.
I am a Progressive and Politics in America absolutely sicken me.
Until there are actual consequences they are actually, literally above the law
They followed the tenth amendment
Not to excuse them at all, but no one over the decades ever saw the possibility of a 6-3 kangaroo court like we have today, and thought maybe they oughta make some changes?
Need to even out the court now. 13 to cover appellate courts.
Term Limits for the so-called Supreme Court! It is not a retirement program.
This is not so much about ethics, as it is about criminality.
Absolutely agree
There should never have been lifetime appointment of justices. Re-write the law in regards to supreme court judges for certain term limits (within 6-10) and also they should be held
accountable for any breach of conduct or law punishable by disbarment and even jail time.
Also what's very important to me is we will never have 2/3 majority of the same religious
beliefs. I'm flabbergasted that no one in the senate confirmation process who saw what's
coming by confirming one Catholic after another.
@@wombatzzzz8446 News flash; that's what's happening right this minute. A bunch of Trumpanzees forming a junta to force the theocratic agenda. We need a way to dilute or flush out the Trumpanzee poison.
There must be a change. Ethic rules and corrupt arrogant justices. What a WE THE PEOPLE TO DO?
Wellll, they know they are untouchable, so, they are obnoxiously corrupt!
You know nothing about corruption. Have you ever lived in a third world country? Have you ever been to the favelas in mexico? please explain what makes them corrupt and add evidence into your argumemt.
They obviously think they're gods... at least five of the 6 "conservative" justices.
Hold Supreme Court appointed members accountable when they lied during the vetting process. Lied to Congress have consequences!
They didn't mor----on
@@wombatzzzz8446 when they said Roe vs Wade was set precedent! Do you Not watch the News? Or read the News? They Lied under Oath!
It does unless you are wealthy and powerful. In America the rich get one justice system and the rest of us get screwed
Pushed a progressive out of my Inama and flushed it down my Biden
Out of my Obama
Lifetime appointments should be removed from every single level of the judicial system.
In my opinion most congresspeople need to be removed for ethics violations.
It's not that they think they are above the law. They do. They think they are the law and that is worse.
The Supreme Court is a joke. No one should have a job for life. There should be a time limit on how long you can serve as a judge, say 10 years, then move on.
Maybe the Justices need to be required to sign a contract of ethical conduct upon their appointments stating they have answered truthfully upon pain of purgery. Infraction would result in immediate suspension until innocence is established. Transparency is a must to stop the corruption. In all areas! People are capable of making up their own minds when presented with the truth. Truth IS still a virtue!
Nice to see Katie back.
"Who do they think they are?"
They think they're a group of people who are above the law. The think they ARE the law. This all needs to change...
Yes
Can't have life time appointments without the ability to impeach and remove them. Lying under oath to Congress should disqualify.
We bring up Geni Thomas' ... perhaps she was working in her husband's behalf?? Hmmm
They believe they are Gods and above the law.. You can't sit here and tell me they don't think the law doesn't apply to them.. And threw history it hasn't
Make the position of supreme court justice time limited, e.g. ten years and prohibit them taking a job on a board of another company AT LEAST for 5 years after to prevent benefiting from any ruling personally. The same rule should also apply to any retiring member of Congress or Senate (or one losing re-election).
There may be a code of ethics for Congress, but it is totally useless if there are no penalties for violating it. Remember MTG claiming under oath "I don't remember" to avoid answering every question she was asked, then denying any support for the insurrection despite video evidence?
This court needs to go , I work at a nurse triage call center and these women who are losing their babies, because something goes wrong are not getting help in the hospitals the supreme court is corrupt and evil . Like I always say what goes around comes around. I hope it boomerangs on them so bad I better shut up there.
Jim Jordan chair of the House Judiciary Committee? ... really? Animal House!
It's a nation of Laws and Men Above The Laws.
No judge should have a lifetime appointment. The bar should be overseeing judges and justices, without political bias interfering.
Thanks Mcconnell! He has been stacking the courts since Bork!
Perhaps McConnell needs to be impeached for his part in this.
The problem is: ethical guard rails won't prevent corrupt justices from violating their oaths and the rule of law. Because there are zero consequences.
How do they think they will enforce thier legislation from the bench?
They are the new royalty…no oversight. Fascinating stuff about the corruption
Thomas and Alito apparently feel they are above the law. If Thomas's actions are not judicial misconduct then the rule of law is over.
Impeach those who are corrupt. Time for term limits at the court.
Thanks for presenting us this story.
It's so unbelievable and awful to learn all of behind the scenes details.
Jim Jordan gaslighting again. What else is new. I wish he answered them questions about Ohio State.
That is what he does
This should be something so IMPORTANT that preventative measures are put in place BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR!!!
These supreme court judges are awful these people are awful but Jackson is good we need term limits for the court
Try stateing why you think they are awful? Maybe put rulings or decision with the justices or talk about a dissent etc. Don’t get lazy, you can be better.
It's difficult to say we have 3 equal branches when one, unelected, lifetime-appointed branch has unilaterally decided an Executive election and overturned Legislative laws.
Exactly! Highest court appointed for life but there is no check and balance! Insanity! Religion has no place in the Constitution! 🤬 it’s time to Pack the Court.
It’s already been packed. It’s time to unpack the court. Let’s even it out. Add more justices to counterbalance the liars already there.
There is a check on the Supreme Court. It’s in the constitution.
It's also time churches started paying taxes.
Justice Thomas is the worst judge on the panel. This guy needs to be impeached!
“We’re the SUPREME Court; it’s in the name!” 😈
While we still can we need to pass into law a complete oversight system for the Supreme Court. Expanding it wouldn't hurt either lol
This fellow is a great American.
Bless Ted Liu for speaking out about the truth.
Supreme Court Justices NEED TERM LIMITS!
add four real justices to SCOTUS
I don’t think anyone has looked Gym Jordan dead in the face and told him to shut tf up while in mid sentence.
The courts work for the people, all the way to the top, not the other way around. If that changes, we take the steps provided by our constitution, to remind them of that or create, through the balances provided, new guidelines to remind justice’s that integrity IS still key to that highest position.
Why can’t the SCOTUS be made up of a rotating membership selected from sitting Federal Appeals Court judges? Appointments could be for a year with selections made by a Judicial Commission. That, in turn, would operate under the oversight of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
One thing is sure the SCOTUS as it is currently comprised has forfeited public confidence. Roberts’s failure to deal with Thomas is scandalous.
Just because they serve for lifetime, doesnt mean you're immune
Just because they aren't voted by people, doesnt mean we cant take action
Mark that word Thomas, especially Thomas
Another reason SCOTUS justices should be elected not appointed.
Term limits for all government officials
It's time to change the code of ethics at the highest court of the land
I no longer trust, respect, or like the Supreme Church. Screw them.
In my opinion 5 of them need to be removed .
There's Thomas, Roberts, Alito, plus the ones Trump put in who lied about Roe vs Wade (4?). So, that's at least 7.
Prosecution is way different from defending a plan that is defending a defendant through algorithms of affirmation
This is disgusting the president can do nothing about this judges for pay crime this is unjust ok Mr president time to pack the courts
Can those judges that sit in the high court they need to resign because they are not honest for their job we the people can’t really trust them no more
The best Court money can buy
Until Congress chooses to provide oversight of the Judiciary, our federal judges will continue to act as if they are God Almighty. Congress can pass morale statutes, to include penalties. There just doesn't seem to be a will for such a law.
IMPEACH THESE CROOK JUSTICES....!
They base all the rules of law in America on religious beliefs.. this is ridiculous
They are: One of the reasons laws no longer apply to anyone.
Laws only apply to poor people and people of color. If you're rich you can basically get away with anything.
Really like Rep. Ted Lieu.....annnd got a REAL kick out of the fact he has a Baby Yoda sitting on his bookcase behind him too!!!! And I agree with Lieu that SCOTUS should be held to ENFORCEABLE rules of Ethics!!!
Make a law that all judgments from SCOTUS should be unanimous. 9/0
It is not a good thing when a spouse is lobbying with the same group When I look back. I agree with protecting spouces but conflict of interest and appearance of a conflict of interest needs to be addressed
Senator Whitehouse's recent book "The Scheme" addresses some of the issues people are bringing up in comments.
It's interesting, if disturbing, and it explains a lot about what's been going on with the Supreme Court, especially since Citizens United.
I know they are a bunch of liars. No ethics. Above the law.
I wonder if Clarence Thomas could hear cases in jailz
Those justices who lied in order to get on the court Should be removed.
Thank you Congressman
I'm so sick and tired of this weak as Congress, people's need to be held accountable, jail some people's where is the FN Justice in America🧐🧐💯💯💯💯💯
I realized there was a missing piece to the Checks and Balances system we have in our 3-part government in school.
Because of the lifetime appointment for a Supreme Court justice and no recourse to veto their decisions if they are deemed to be unconstitutional, the US Supreme Court has too much power in Americans' lives.
We need an Amendment to make changes to the SP!
ITS TIME TO LIMIT THE JUSTICE'S TIME ON THE BENCH. THEY REACHED THE POINT OF DISGRACE.
Argue why, dont just shout. I don’t really seem too convinced to side with you.
He’s right! Who do they think they are ? They are not gods and must be held to a code of conduct, just like everyone else in the entire country!!
I think 4 justices should be disbarred
6.
6
6 ! Now if you were me which 6 of those justices should be disbarred? Let's keep in mind we didn't have this mess back in the 90s
Go after the people trying to INFLUENCE the Court. Nothing will ever happen to the Justices.
All Branches of Government need a fair amount of autonomy to function correctly and a fair amount of oversight to make sure that the autonomy is not being taken too far.
Who do they think they are? Above the law they profess to uphold.
Who do they think they are? They're telling us , they're better than us. To the point where they think they need to make decisions for us. Rather insulting, no?
Sinema: I'm leaving to become an Independent so I don't get hit with a primary since my approval rating is so low. Congress takes the risk of losing a seat and splitting votes into a 3 way which will give the seat to a republican during the next election. I'm in it for myself although I do say this is what Arizonians want. (I don't really know what they want since I don't talk to my constituents) I'm enjoying my wealth too much and my travels abroad.
Not if their committing crimes!
There was a time when the SC were above suspicion of impropriety that time because of Thomas is long gone.
Senate should never vote in a supreme judge we the people should do that because that is problem in the court system