Is the Catholic Church Really the One, True Church? (
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One thing that I have noticed is that people who leave the Catholic Church for any reason have nothing but hatred and scorn for the Catholic Church, yet, anybody who converts to the Catholic Church never shows hatred for their previous beliefs. More often then not, they recognize that God used what they were given to set them on the road to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
George Pierson I am.a convert to the Catholic faith and you are right!
I "converted" from the RC church to Orthodoxy, and I still love the RC church. And there are many like me.
I converted from Catholic Church to Christianity & I don’t hate the church, but love everyone Catholic to come to the knowledge of God’s truth.
George Pierson I left the Catholic Church and just follow Christ and do not have hatred for it I just never saw truth in the Catholic Church.
George Pierson the fact that you are baptised as a baby your parents make that choice for you not you and the fact is all they do is brainwash you in the Catholic Church I was raised Catholic I know what does holy day of obligation have to do with god and Jesus nothing it's about worshipping saints who are men god did not want us putting any other god before him saints are men who have nothing to do with god or Jesus.
You know, friend, you can disagree with me all you want. But why the disrespect?
And thus, Mike C. believes that Protestantism came from that which is false.
Mike S Pasamano
St. Ignatius of Antioch
"Be not deceived, my brethren: If anyone follows a maker of schism [i.e., is a schismatic], he does not inherit the kingdom of God; if anyone walks in strange doctrine [i.e., is a heretic], he has no part in the passion [of Christ]. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: For there is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup in the union of his blood; one altar, as there is one bishop, with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons" (Letter to the Philadelphians 3:3-4:1 [A.D. 110]).
Bishop Robert Barron you said well not everyone agree with Jesus
Mike S Pasamano you're poor soul ,you don't what you are talking about may God leads you to the catholic church to open your eyes to see Jesus in echurist
George Pierson Protestants emerged out of that which had become corrupted and convoluted, not false.
Hard to believe a 1 minute answer can be this good. Thank you Bishop Barron.
Unfortunately he is very deceptive.
Hi. You obviously enjoyed this video with Bishop Barron. I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@Wilantonjakov How so?
@@kenshiloh You sound like a Protestant already
It is not. He is using the Universal Salvation false argument. Many of us fell for it and stopped attending church. It's so dangerous to tell Catholics and non Catholics they will all be saved.
I love these comment sections where people just gouge each others eyes out saying how everybody else will burn in hell. Wait to go.
Connor Hogan praying that you will follow Jesus!
As soon as I saw your comment I became no longer tempted to scroll down to see the rest of the section thank you. I will pray for every one of you guys so that we all may live in goodwill under the glory of God!
Hi. Do you believe there is life after this one? What do you thinks happens after we all die? Thanks!
Jesus loves
the devil mocks, insults and attacks
Protestants who claim that the Catholic Church is not the 'one true Church' should remember that Luther himself identified as a Catholic and did not intend to cause groups to break away from the Church.
Al Mighty right you are,he just want reformation.And not another Church.
Al Mighty lmaoooo 😂😂😂😂😂
Hi French Toast Mafia, right, Luther was a Catholic priest and when the verse "The just shall live by faith" hit him, he realized no amount of Masses, indulgences, penance and so on can save us, but the blood of Jesus alone.
Your founding father Martin Luther (who's now burning in Hell) was a Christian priest until he became an apostate because he twisted the Bible to his own damnation just like you to your own.
Your own antipope called the apostate Martin Luther "a witness to the Gospel" and is having his face put on Vatican stamps!
I’m really fascinated with history. I grew up going to catholic school for most of my life, except when I moved and was kinda forced to go to public school (totally okay btw). I was informed of other religions, but never really thought twice about “is mine the true one?”
In public school, I got into an argument with a fellow classmate who was Jewish and I am happy to say i was able to defend my faith, it was like an ultimate test for me.
Recently, I started wondering, “what makes my faith actually true? How do i know there is an almighty being up there to give us salvation in the afterlife?” I hear so many stories of the gods of the Mediterranean civilizations, those of South Asia, and as Far East as possible. They have their faith handed down through hundreds and hundreds of centuries, yet ours was created within the past 2000 years (referring to Jesus’s time on earth).
I look to history and see the MANY popes of the catholic faith, they go as far back as to St. Peter who was one of the apostles. Some had short terms, some hand reasonably long terms, but regardless, all of them are tied down back to St. Peter. I find it very hard to believe that some people lied or praised falsehood of a man who would perform so many miracles that the Romans and Jews who feared him so much that they crucified him.
I am fascinated with history :) that is one of the things that keeps me strong in my faith, that not only do I feel I am one with Christ, but that there is proof in the history!
amen !!!
Amen
did you ever study the history of christmas, easter, and the sunday? i want to belive that the catholic church is the true one, but i can not get over the fact that those holidays have pagan origins.
I love my church and it makes me sad that i dont want to go there anymore just becouse i feel like they have addopted so many false pagan things.
I struggle with the Catholic Church as well. My problem is that I feel catholics have blind faith because they do not question the authority of the Magisterium and the Priesthood, as well as other traditions they have that are not found in The Word of God.
When I was reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church, I found that many of their writings are only supported by Popes and Fathers of the church, not actual scripture. And when they do call upon actual scripture, it is in a very lucrative and openly interpreted way. The majority of the supportive literature for the Catechism does not actually come from scripture.
My conclusion is that if you are a follower of the Catholic faith, then you are not following Christ alone or the word of God. If you were, then the Pope, the Magisterium, the Priesthood (in the Catholic definition) and all catholic traditions would be meaningless to you, as they were meaningless and without mention to Jesus himself.
@@NoesKicker the authority what put in place by Christ himself. Peter is the rock. The first pope. That act sets up apostolic succession. That lineage can be traced back from today all the way back to Peter. It's a deep and inspiring history. Not to mention that the Bible was formulated by the Catholic church.
Bishop. I follow your articulation of the faith. It makes me want to be baptized. I'm not there yet. But, it's coming, and it comes because of videos like this. I watch your daily masses now. I don't think I will stop.
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He’s really good!💪🏽
This is awesome! Have you been Baptized yet? Also, I highly recommend @catholiccentral videos as an amazing resource!
You should consider studying scripture alone before you consider the authority of the Catholic Church as being the Truth. There is a difference and it is hard to make the right decision without considering both. Acts chpt 17 talks about the Bareans being a noble people for being ready to receive the word of God but also verify what they heard with scripture. This includes practices and traditions as well. If it is not contained or articulated in scripture, then a priest or Pope could make any claim they wanted, by Authority of the Magisterium, not the Authority of God
@@NoesKicker Sola Scriptura is heresy. Please come back to the Catholic Church.
@@AndrewTheMandrew531 where did you learn that?
Please go on line and look at the Conciliar Document Lumen Gentium. Go to paragraph sixteen. That lays it out very well.
Bishop Robert Barron, I pray that you have resolved your center on Christ after this experience. I pray that you continue to support the sacraments, and I thank you for devoting your life to the gospel. The church of Peter lives on as the temple of Christ amongst many congregations. No edict from man can abolish that truth nor can mans edict abolish the truth of the Lords word. Thanks be to God.
Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life and that no one comes to the father but through me Any other gospel is cursed
Since Jesus established the Catholic Church as necessary for salvation, those who knowingly and willingly reject him or his Church cannot be saved. We see this in Jesus’ teaching: “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters” (Mt 12:30). Also: “[I]f he [a sinning brother] refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector” (Mt 18:17). Paul warned similarly: “As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned” (Ti 3:10-11).
Having said all this, we must recognize that this doctrine is not as far reaching as some imagine it to be. People will sometimes ask, “Does this means non-Catholics are going to hell?” Not necessarily.
The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states:
This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience-those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)
Vatican II document Gaudium Et Spes teaches similarly on the possibility of salvation:
All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery. (22)
This teaching is consistent with Jesus’ own teaching about those who innocently reject him: “If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin” (Jn 15:22).
But once a person comes to know the truth, he must embrace it or he will be culpable of rejecting it. We see this in Jesus’ words to the Pharisees: “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains” (Jn 9:41). Paul taught likewise concerning the Gentiles:
When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)
Notice Paul’s carefully chosen words: “their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them.” Paul did not say that those who are innocently ignorant of the truth will be saved; he simply keeps open the possibility of it.
Similarly, he wrote: “[I]s God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one; and he will justify the circumcised on the ground of their faith and the uncircumcised through their faith” (Rom 3:29-30).
Do you mean some people, we don't know who, made this stuff up and wrote it down in letters that were copied and altered over hundreds of years until you get to 'book' of them. You are starting with a massive unproved assumption then hanging a claim off of it with zero proof. If you think this, personally in your head because it makes you feel better, please keep it there. The damage you do by guilting your things on others and far worse on children who can not think for themselves is terrible. Please stop this and do some non bias research into the so called 'claims'.
@@grayintheuk8021 The Holy Bible is infallible, not the work of "some people we don't know who made this stuff up".
@@davidizsak1161 Really, the book is 'infallible' I certainly don't see that. How would you go about showing that it's something else other than the words of man? We only have copies of copies no originals - nothing survived.
If a supernatural thing give us the very problamatic writings by unknown authors over many many years why didn't it give us something better that could have survived and been useful now. Why has man been allowed to changed and altered it to suit his needs. Why are there so many versions. Really when you look at it - it's a big mess. If it wasn't people wouldn't cherry pick and that includes to creating the canon in the first place. David this creates so much misery for people it needs to be 'put away' now. Any church / religion needs to stop telling people how to live their lives.
@@grayintheuk8021 It's not the Gospel that causes people misery, but the devil and his demons who tempt people to sin and the various heretics who take Scripture out of it's historical context (the Catholic Church) and misinterpret it and twist passages to suit their ideas. You say that the Bible must be "put away" and religion needs to "stop telling people how to live their lives", but if a group had the cure for cancer, it would be their responsibility to spread knowledge of it to everyone, well there is a group that has the cure for hell which is infinitely worse than cancer.
Did he really just say that an atheist who follows their conscience without confessing faith in Christ can be Saved? 🤔🤯 Or did I hear it wrong?
You heard right
Do you disagree?
@@hjhjkhfkfkd I don't.
I know right
The Vatican Council II documents clearly state that even non-believers can be saved. Mind you, it doesn't say that they necessarily will be saved or that they can be easily saved. But they can be saved. That, friend, is the clear teaching of the Catholic Church.
You are Bishop so you should know this : 12Salvation exists in no one else (than Jesus), for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.” act 4:12. Father Barron, do you still keep reading the Bible ?? Real Christianity have nothing to do with Budhism, Hindu or atheism since they are way to hell !
True Holy Romantic Catholic Mother Apostolic Church who teaches based on Sacred Tradition (Bishop Saint Ignatius, Epistle to the Smyrneans 8:2, A.D. 107; Bishop Doctor Saint Clement, Stromateis, A.D. 202; Bishop Saint Cyprian, The Catholic Church Unity, #6, A.D. 251; Lactantius, The Divine Institutions, A.D. 304; Bishop Doctor Saint Athanasius, Epistle to Bishop Saint Serapion, A.D. 359; Bishop Saint Pacian, Epistle to the Sympronians, A.D. 375; Bishop Doctor Saint Augustine, Homily 267:4, A.D. 412) and the Sacred Bible (Matthew 7:14; 10:33; John 8:24; 14:6; Acts of Apostles 4:12; Colossians 1:24; Ephesians 5:22-33) that there's absolutely no salvation nor remission of sins outside of her!
"Just as in a physical body the operation of one member contributes to the good of the whole body, so it is in a Spiritual Body, such as the Church. And since all the Faithful are One Body, the good of one member is communicated to another; everyone members, as the apostle says, of one another (Ephesians 4:25). For that reason, among the points of Faith handed down by the apostles, is that there is a community of goods in the Church, and this is expressed in the words Communion of Saints." (Pope Doctor Saint Gregory the Great)
"By the heart, We believe, and, by the mouth, We confess the One Church, not of heretics, but the Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church, outside of which We believe that no one is saved." (Pope Innocent III, Eius Example, Epistle, December 18th 1208)
"There is but One Catholic Church of the Faithful, outside which no one at all is saved." (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, Constitution 1: Profession of Faith, 1215)
"With Faith urging Us, We are forced to believe and to hold the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church, and We firmly believe and simply confess this Church, outside which there is no salvation nor remission of sin, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: "One is my dove, my perfect one. One, she is of her mother, the chosen of her who bore her." (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the One Mystical Body, Whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, "One Lord, One Faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5). ... Furthermore, We declare, say, define, and proclaim to every human creature that they, by necessity for salvation, are entirely subject to the Roman pontiff." (Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, Bull on the Unity and Power of the Church, November 18th 1302)
"Since however there is for both regulars and seculars, for superiors and subjects, for exempt and non-exempt, One Catholic Church, outside of which there is no salvation, for all of whom there is One Lord, One Faith and one baptism." (Pope Clement V, Viennese Council, Bull on the Intellectual and Rational Soul, Licet Pridem, Decree 30, January 13th 1313)
“In the second place, We ask whether you and the Armenians obedient to you believe that no man of the wayfarers outside the Faith of this Church, and outside the obedience to the pope of Rome, can finally be saved.” (Pope Clement VI, Super Quibusdam, Epistle, September 20th 1351)
"She [the Sacred Roman Church] firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal, but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41), unless before death they are joined with Her, and that so important is the Unity of this Ecclesiastical Body that only those remaining within this Unity can profit by the Sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the Bosom and the Unity of the Catholic Church." (Pope Eugenius IV, Cantate Domino, Bull on Union With the Copts, Baseline-Ferrarian-Florentine Council, Location 3, Session 11, February 4th 1442)
"It is impossible for the Most True God, who is Truth Itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members. For we have a surer Word of the Prophet, and, in writing to you, We speak Wisdom among the perfect; not the wisdom of this world but the Wisdom of God in a Mystery. By it, we are taught, and, by Divine Faith, We hold "One Lord, One Faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5), and that "no other Name under Heaven is given to men" except the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth "in which we must be saved" (Acts of Apostles 4:12). This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church." (Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum, Encyclical Assuming the Pontificate, #14, May 5th 1824)
"Finally some of these misguided people attempt to persuade themselves and others that men are not saved only in the Catholic Religion, but that even heretics may attain eternal life.
Omitting other appropriate passages which are almost numberless in the writings of the Fathers, We will praise Saint Gregory the Great, who expressly testifies that this indeed is the teaching of the Catholic Church. He says: "The Holy Catholic Church teaches that it is not possible to worship God truly except in her and asserts that all who are outside of her will not be saved." (Pope Doctor Saint Gregory I the Great) Official acts of the Church proclaim the same Dogma. Therefore, they must instruct them in the true worship of God, which is unique to the Catholic Faith.” (Pope Gregory XVI, Encyclical on Mixed Marriages, Summo Iugiter Studio, #2,5, May 27th 1832)
"Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession of any kind of religion, as long as morality is maintained. Surely, in so clear a matter, you will drive this deadly error far from the people committed to your care. With the admonition of the apostle that "there is One God, One Faith, one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5), may those fear who contrive the notion that the safe harbor of salvation is open to persons of any religion whatever. They should consider the Testimony of Christ Himself that "they who are not with Christ are against Him" (Lucas 11:23) and who they disperse unhappily who do not gather with Him. Therefore "without a doubt, they will perish forever, unless they hold the Catholic Faith whole and inviolate" (Athanasian Creed). Let them hear Jerome who, while the Church was torn into three parts by schism, tells us that whenever someone tried to persuade him to join his group he always exclaimed: "He who is for the See of Peter is for me." (Father Doctor Saint Jerome, Epistle 57). A schismatic flatters himself falsely if he asserts that he, too, has been washed in the waters of regeneration. Indeed Augustine would reply to such a man: "The branch has the same form when it has been cut off from the vine; but of what profit for it is the form, if it does not live from the root?" (Bishop Doctor Saint Augustinius, Psalmus Contra Partem Donati)." (Pope Gregory XVI, Mirari Vos, Encyclical on Liberalism and "Religious" Indifferentism, #13, August 15th 1832)
"We are thankful for the success of apostolic missions in America, the Indies, and other Faithless lands. The indefatigable zeal of many apostolic men has led them abroad into those places. ... They search out those who sit in darkness and the shadow of death to summon them to the light and life of the Catholic Religion. So, fearless in the face of every danger, they bravely enter the woods and caves of savages, gradually pacify them by Christian kindness, and prepare them for true faith and real virtue. At length, they snatch them from the devil's rule, by the bath of regeneration and promote them to the freedom of God's adopted sons." (Pope Gregory XVI, Probe Nostis, Encyclical on the Propagation of the Faith, #6, September 18th 1840)
"This True Catholic Faith, outside of which none can be saved, and which I now freely profess and truly hold, is what I shall steadfastly maintain and confess, by the help of God, in all its completeness and purity until my dying breath, and I shall do my best to ensure that all others do the same." (Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council, Session 2, Profession of Faith, January 6th 1870)
"Some say they are not bound by the Doctrine, explained in Our Encyclical Letter of a few years ago, and based on the Sources of Revelation, which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are One and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the True Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian Faith." (Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis, Encyclical Concerning Some False Opinions That Threaten to Undermine the Fundamentals of Catholic Doctrine, #27 August 12th 1950)
How different from what we see and hear from your New World Order antipopes today!
Mike S Pasamano u need 2 step back and read the new testament. The first true church was started in the book of acts. No pope, mass, confessional box, sacraments, priesthood, rosary, apparition, praying to saints & Mary, who can't hear u, no papal infalability, no celibacy. I know what u fell and believe I was there but u need for yourself to know the truth. Do u believe non Catholics will go 2 heaven? The bible tells u truth & how 2 b saved , since we will b judged by God, not any man, pope, saint or anyone else. He's not going 2 ask if ur catholic or not.
Mike S, what you don't understand is the Catholic Church has always & still does teach there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church ( pope John Paul II) It is what they teach that most people are confused about. They teach that if you die and stand in front of the Lord at your judgment and he asks you (even though he knows the answer before you say it) If when you were alive and you knew the Catholic Church was the ONE TRUE FAITH, would you have quit yours and joined it? the ones who say yes are saved the ones who are stubborn and and say no are not.( I don't know if this is a part of Catholic doctrine on this or not but I don't think it is so much the religion that they are in it's more that they love there faith , or hate the Catholic faith more than they love God.)
Ewald, read my post right below to Mike S, Yes he will, but he already knows now doesn't he.!!!
There is only ONE way to be saved father Barron. Christ and Christ alone! There is NO other way.
Nope….Jesus establish Catholic church as exclusive parh to salvation with ordinary means. Take RCIA to learn what Catholic church really teaches.
You don’t call father except the Almighty God in heaven He is your father.
@@agnescheong6544 What is more probable, The thing that for 1500 years nobody noticed that or that you don't understand something?
@@vesogry Mathew 23.9 kjv. In the Bible. Thank you.
@@agnescheong6544 Are you dumb? This text "thank you" like you drop the bomb or something. Go educate yourself better.
Bishop Barron has a great gift of explanation.
Great sincerity and honesty. In addition to this church I heard another church claims something similar. I heard they have the "fullness" of the Gospel (with additional scriptures to add more surety and witness about Jesus). Also the restoration of knowledge along with proper authority (for baptism). Its some peoples understanding that after the death of Jesus and his apostles, the "authority" to lead the church was lost (as outlined in the bible, or an apostasy or falling away). However many with good intentions (and wanting to keep the peace and continue the teachings of Jesus) led to a church / state organization through the Nicean Council) outlined and guided by both bishops, political figures, etc. From there of course many churches sprung up (Protestant's, Lutherans, etc) - all with concerns about how some things were being handled (and theological differences in the understanding of both the written word in the bible, along with added traditions too). I believe people for the most part did their best - but it was promised / prophesied in the scriptures (bible) there would be a "restoration" of all things ub the last days (to restore which once was - as in the time of Christ) so as to unite "all" Christians and clarify doctrine (having one body in Christ). I believe there are many good followers (In all christian churches) and when Jesus comes back he will sort out the differences. But for now we should as Christians come together (and build on common ground). Jesus said "there should be no disputations amongst you). So with that said, great video and God bless :)
To all people out there questioning different Churches..
By the presence of God, and Holy Spirit in lives of devoted Catholics, and all who nurish relationship with him, i can tell that you don't need another Church, another belief system, another pastor, to get closer or more devoted to Him
You got plenty of knowledge and wisdom here, it's up to you and grace of God to nourish your faith and prayer, that is relationship with God and to listen and follow his voice
Every time i personally had doubts in faith and catholic church it was unsettling voice, not of God.. i understood this difference many years later
amen
Follow what the Catholic Church teaches.
Obviously, the Bull Cantate Domino is right, and Mr. Barron is wrong.
Pray the Rosary. Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious (every day if possible). "Ask and you shall receive" - Ask God for the truth -
Put your life under The Blessed Virgin Mary's protection.
St. Louis De Montfort has a great book called "True Devotion to Mary." It has within it a great way to consecrate yourself to The Blessed Virgin Mary.
God bless you!
Bishop Barron is not contradicting the Church's teaching that all salvation comes from Christ. The Church teaches that God's grace sometimes is able to work in ways we can not see with our eyes, and if someone is genuinely ignorant (I do not know how common this is, but I am sure there are people like this in the world, like people who have never heard the Gospel) and sincerely tries to follow their conscience, they may go to heaven. We can never know the disposition of a person's soul.
You forgot to say to read the Bible😅
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
@ARBYSLANG Friend, I might suggest you look at the relevant sections of Nostra Aetate. I'm simply conveying the teaching of Vatican II here. If I'm a heretic, I'm afraid you'd have to conclude that the Vatican II documents are heretical.
"If I'm a heretic, I'm afraid you'd have to conclude that the Vatican II documents are heretical." Yes, that's exactly it. And I've finally concluded that--not specifically for the passages you've cited, but for others. I'm deeply grateful for the Orthodox Church.
@@obscuranox - St. Chrysistom lived during the 300's. His "bark" is no way meaning the Roman Catholic Church, as it stands today.
I believe that Vatican ii is heretical
As a child who brought up a Catholic, I often heard the expression 'the living Gospel'. The profundity of this concept bypassed my understanding for many, many years until quite recently, despite being blindingly obvious. Jesus wasn't just speaking to the people of his time; the believers, non-believers, cynics, sceptics, zealots, sinners etc., but to all of us who fit into any and all of these categories throughout all time. At any point in each of our lives we are an Apostle, a Scribe, a Phar
Hi. I agree with the concept of the 'living gospel.' However, I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh Do you really believe that the Church that actually decided what books were to be in the Bible didn''t know what the books actually contained. You can't take a line from Paul and isolate it and say that is the whole means of salvation. What about what Jesus said inJohn 6: 51-58 -that is the Eucharist (Communion) and also what Jesus said in Matthew 28:18-19 regarding Baptism.
If your denominations believed in the Bible so much, why did they remove 7 books from the Old Testament. Be very careful of who you are accusing of being accursed.
@@morant3057 Thanks for writing. You said that I cannot take just one verse in the Bible and isolate it. Yet, to contradict any verse in the Bible is a sin. Therefore, rather than saying, "You can't just look at one verse...", tell me, what does Paul mean by, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved"? What does Jesus mean that, whoever comes to Him, He shall never turn away? Are you saying that, if a person comes to Christ without being baptized, that person will be rejected by God? Who should I believe: you or Christ?
Moreover, the people that decided what books are in the Bible died over 1,500 years ago. Those who have since taken their place have perverted the Word of God. For example:
The Apostle Paul: Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10.13)
Catholic Teachings: Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall NOT be saved, as baptism, communion, etc. are necessary to be saved.
Again, should I obey you or the gospel? I cannot do both. Yet, let's look at your Bible verses that 'contradict' Romans 10.13. For example, let's look at John 6: whoever partakes of Christ's body has eternal life. Is Jesus talking about communion? Are you aware that John does not even mention communion, the breaking of bread, the partaking of wine as a remembrance? It is non-existent in John! How could John be referring to communion when he does not mention communion?
In fact, the Jews were looking for physical bread; they wanted a free meal! That is why it confused them to hear that they should be hungry for Christ, the bread that came down from heaven. If Jesus had given them bread for communion, they would have been thrilled! Like you, the Jews were thinking only of the flesh, not that Christ is the bread of life, food that can satisfy our spiritual hunger. Moreover, He says that the bread from heaven 'will not perish.' Do your wafers perish? Do they get moldy, old, and stale? If so, then it is not the bread from heaven that never perishes!
Jesus also said that, whoever eats of this bread shall live forever. Is that true of every person who has ever eaten of Catholic communion, that they will live forever? For example, Hitler partook of Catholic communion; Jesus said whoever eats of it will live forever, so I guess Hitler is in heaven with Christ?
Further, the Old Testament books that you say are inspired, first, they would be in the Old Testament, having nothing at all to do with the New Covenant. Secondly, why should I accept books that both ancient and modern Jews have rejected?
Finally, Jesus said that we should make disciples and that they should be baptized. However, Matthew 28 never says that a person cannot be saved unless they are baptized. As for me, I called upon the Name of the Lord, was instantly filled with the Holy Spirit - born again! - then, a year or so later, after I was saved, I was baptized.
Christ died on a Cross so that, just by asking, we may know Him. Do you know Him? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh Why do you believe the Bible at all? What is your authority? You? So for 1500yrs it was all wrong. It seems that for you Jesus is not the Christ but but Luther is. Do you really believe that the Old Testament is null and void now? The Septuagint included the 7 books that Luther removed. Remember Luther removed James and Revelations because he didn't agree with them too. Which other books would you remove?
Again you are all out of context. It is not do, or say, or believe, just one thing. It is to believe in entirety of what Jesus taught. If it wasn't so, then Jesus could have just said one thing and left it at that. What does Paul say in 1 Corinthians 11:29?. Look at what the early Church fathers believed. Remember Jesus came to Save not to Condemn.
Look, Jesus showed us the way to salvation, Catholics don't believe that if you if you are not Catholic you won't go to Heaven. But the safest way is probably if you are.
Do you believe that a Muslim or Hindu or even a tribal native in the bush who has never heard of Jesus could get to heaven?
@@morant3057 Thanks for writing. First, please do not associate me with Luther. I heard the gospel from a Catholic movie, the Holy Spirit bearing witness that Christ died for my sins. Then, according to what is written in your Catholic Bible, I called upon the Name of the Lord and was saved. That is, I was filled with the Holy Spirit, born again, born into God's family. Now, I know Christ.
Here are the verses from your own Bible that support everything that occurred as being of the Lord. First, the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin (from John 16). Next, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10.13), and Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Now, are you saying that this same Catholic church, the church that canonized the Scripture, will now contradict the Lord? May heaven forbid!
Yet, that same Catholic Bible tells me that if anyone preaches a different gospel, they should be accursed. Sadly, your Catholic leaders, so far, have told me that I cannot trust the words of Paul, that it is not true that 'whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved,' but that other things, many other things, are necessary for salvation.
It was you, Catholics, who produced a movie so that I could hear the gospel, it was your Catholic Bible that told me, "Whoever asks shall receive." It is the same Bible that says that Christ died on a Cross so that, just by asking, I could know Him. This produces a real dilemma: either you are saying the Bible is wrong and, therefore, your church promotes lies or you would have to say that, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved."
So far, every Catholic I have corresponded with has told me that Romans 11.13 is wrong, but I will not believe them. Instead, I will pray for the church that once codified the Bible, but has since abandoned the Word of God for the traditions of men - just as the religious leaders in Christ's day had done. I guess some things never change, especially the Word of God. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
It’s the one true church. Not just “the best or fullest”. I love bishop Barron, but he is really watering down the reality here. The CC is literally the bride of Christ.
The only Church founded by Jesus himself and still follows his teachings, its awesome to be Catholic.
Alex McCleod very wrong do your research.. it is and will always be Greek Orthodox
Hi. Jesus had 12 disciples, not just one. Moreover, Paul started churches, so I am not sure why Catholics say that there are not other churches.
I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh well said
Yes!!!!
@@kenshiloh Jesus started Catholic church. Why be against it?
Hmm, this explanation seems to differ from when i was a child, 40 years ago. Did you waffle with that guy right in front of you?
Bishop Barron is a political bishop of the media. Unfortunately as a political face in the media part of his job is to waffle to social and cultural norms.
@@barrymarshall3592 Bishop Barron is not a political bishop anymore than any other bishop. If he waffled to social and cultural norms he'd say fornication and abortion are OK. Two things he HASN'T done. It's time you traditionalists stop spreading hyperbole and constant criticism of anyone not on yeer faction.
European Qoheleth you have the arrogance to presume the title:
קהלת
קוהלת
That was definitely a squishy answer. As a Catholic Bishop shouldn’t your answer be, “the only way to salvation is through the Catholic understanding and dedication to the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Church”? After all you are a Bishop right? Then you gotta rock his world with some serious knowledge. Bro, when I was in Catholic school in the 70’s getting a kick ass education for cheaaap, it was drilled into us on the daily, there is only one church, and only one way to heaven, the Catholic Church.
Ask a Muslim, can you go to heaven and not be a Muslim? Nope. See, no waffling there. This is why Catholics don’t go to church anymore, well Catholic Church that is. They are now going to Protestant and Muslim churches. Because the priests are weak ass little bitches.
European Qoheleth Catholic Church does not teach there is salvation outside of the Catholic Church. He is a heretic and not Catholic.
The true church are those who belong to the Great Shepherd. Those who have been baptized by the Holy Spirit into the “body of Christ.”
Denominational flavor isn’t the primary factor.
I love you for this 🇳🇬
*Are you really saying, the Church has no visible leadership, apostolic succession, and organization?*
The one Church of Christ, as a society constituted and organized in the world, subsists in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him. Only through this Church can one obtain the fullness of the means of salvation since the Lord has entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone whose head is Peter.
@@davidizsak1161 - *There is no Church. There are only people who do the will of Gd.* ☝🏾
@@mtalk828 Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Acts 20:28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. 1 Timothy 3:15 but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. I could go on and on copying and pasting quotes from Scripture which explicitly mention the Church.
father barro, as a baptist i love your videos, but i just have a question. When you say "non- christians can be saved", can you elaborate? Because isn't that kinda teaching universalism? Cause the Bible says salvation comes through jesus christ....just wondering cause im confused
i do beleive in my heart the catholic church is the true church i was raised catholic left to the protestant but came back to the catholic church
Why did you leave to the Protestant Church then come back to the Catholic Church?
Hi. Will you 'believe in your heart' in the Catholic church? I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38
@@renee187 Hi. I repented and was baptized and I received the Holy Spirit. However, I was saved when I called upon the Lord, then I was baptized. Suppose, though, that you are right and baptism is necessary for salvation. What, then, do you do with the words of Christ, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him (Luke 11.13)"? Which is true: you need to be baptized to receive the Holy Spirit or if you ask, you will receive?
I hope that, if you do not already know Christ, that you will have a genuine encounter with the Lord of Glory - just by asking! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh lol, maybe there was a very slight possibility that we could have been saved by calling on the Lord, in danger of death for example... but seeing that you are still alive at the time you wrote this comment, it's highly unlikely that you still qualify under the same conditions.
Haven't previous popes declared that there is no salvation outside the Church? How can you reconcile this recurrent teaching with Vatican II?
No man has ever walked out of a confessional with his sins forgiven.
@@shawn3126
To me. No one can for give your sin only God.
@@amysands2413 but it is God who forgives. Wdym?
A lot of theological loopholes. That's the most honest answer someone will give you.
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
As the name goes Catholic, holistic, broad, and universal. It"s from a Greek adjective "Katholikos" a combination of "Kata" (according to) and "Holos" (whole). Thus it means "thoroughly whole" as opposed to "narrow and short, incomplete". Catholic is like martial arts, but a combination of it, a mixed martial arts master as opposed to knowing only Taekwondo. To be a Catholic is to be like an MMA fighter who possesses not only belief, but also faith, knowledge of scriptures, tradition, and of course science! The Fathers of Science were Catholics. So practice your martial arts of faith more and more. Yaaah! :)
What a stretch of your imagination!
It's called analogy. 😃
Hiyaa!. That is my greeting, but also the sound of a karate chop! I have never heard of one's faith likened to martial arts, but I do call Christ my 'Sensei!'
That said, I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh You should do a little more research, Ken, and stop relying on Protestant-slanted interpretations of Scripture. Looking up "Baptism of Desire" would be a good start.
@josephmanno4514 Ken's question/accusation is very similar to what my partner believes about Catholicism (he grew up in a non-denominational-ish Christian church, and his family left the church after they saw parishioner behavior they didn't agree with; I grew up Catholic). I don't have a great answer for him, so am hoping for some good comments to appear here!
And Ken, I have no problem with what you said! You are sharing your opinion, and that is fine. I don't know what's right or wrong; I have my faith and my current level of understanding that I am working on deepening, and I imagine you're in a similar boat. 😊
Joseph, thanks for the Desire recommendation!
Also consider a few out of many reasons why catholicism is false:
1. The bible says try here is one mediator between God and man. The Catholics has many mediators
2. They baptize children who do not understand the essence of baptism.
3. Even in communion, they have it wrong.
4. They don't believe in the baptism of the Holy spirit
Someone hasn't read John 14:6
They've read it but they have other Authorities than the Bible like the LDS do.
Part 2 What Rome did is change the lower case “c” to a upper case “C”, now capitalized “Catholic”. The word “catholic/Catholic” is a CAPITONYM.
A capitonym is a word that changes its meaning when it is capitalized; the capitalization usually applies due to one form being a proper noun or eponym.
Five Examples of capitonyms: 1. turkey (the bird) and Turkey (the country) 2. china (as in porcelain or dinnerware) and China (the country) 3. titanic (gigantic) and Titanic (the ship) 4. bill, the amount to be paid and Bill, the name, short for William 5. catholic, universal and Catholic, short for the member of the Roman Catholic Church
Catholic referring to Rome is a proper noun, meaning particular group of people belonging to the Roman Catholic Church. The Gospel of Jesus and what He did on the Cross does not just apply to the Roman Catholic Church. Jesus did not die, shed His blood and resurrect just for Roman Catholics. The same is for Protestant churches and all Gentiles. The Jews are included as well. 1 Corinthians 12:13 “ For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.” The Holy Spirit was poured out and Peter proclaimed the Gospel in Acts 2
The universal/catholic (lower case “c”) True Church Jesus established is in His Gospel and all that have faith, trust and believe in how Jesus provided salvation. Eph 2: 8,9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
What Jesus did on the Cross and His Gospel is universal or to say catholic. Peter is the first to proclaim that Gospel of Jesus in Acts 2. The Gospel has spoken ever since Peter. Most of Roman Catholics, Prostestants, Jews and Gentiles are never told of the meaning of the word “catholic” and how it is used. It is the same with the word “church” and how that word is used, Local church or is it universal/catholic church.
This Catholic Priest in the video is lying and is TOTALLY unaware of what he is saying. He is literally protesting against Jesus. Jesus Has the Authority NOT ROME!!!!
Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth."
Since Jesus is the Church the Authority is in HIM!!!!!
The one Church of Christ, as a society constituted and organized in the world, subsists in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him. Only through this Church can one obtain the fullness of the means of salvation since the Lord has entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone whose head is Peter.
You are absolutely correct! The Catholic church is a counterfeit, not at all of the truth of the word of God. There are beautiful people who love Jesus within Catholic churches but are not in the habit of reading the word of God.
@@ThankyouJesus4444 You are in a false church.
@vkorchnoifan Jesus is the Way because he embodies the fullness of truth. That doesn't mean that elements of truth can't be found in other religions, various philosophies, etc.
The elements of truth teaching is clearly a novelty. A glass of water with one drop of poison is still poison - that is what the Church has always taught.
I'm thoroughly impress with his answer. Wow🙏🙏
Christ is the One & Only True Church. Period.
Leonine Anjeque Amen Catholic, baptist, Norman, Lutheran and so on are all man made to me a the churches that follow the Bible and don't have all these man made rules are the true churches of God.
Scripture tells us that Christ built a Church with a visible hierarchy. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matthew 16:18-19). The Catholic Church is the only Christian community that can claim to be God's Church because only she can claim a history that goes back 2000 years.
@@tracyabernathy4591 Scripture tells us that Christ built a Church with a visible hierarchy. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matthew 16:18-19). The Catholic Church is the only Christian community that can claim to be God's Church because only she can claim a history that goes back 2000 years.
@Asaph Vapor The Catholic Church is the only Christian community that goes back 2000 years. Our Blessed Lord built the Catholic Church. Saint Peter the Apostle was crucified upside in Rome. What does that tell you? That the Prince of the Apostles (the rock, Kepha in Aramaic, Petros in Greek) was living and teaching in Rome in his final days here on Earth and he must have been the bishop of Rome. His successors have been in Rome for a very long time now and we gradually started calling them Popes.
@Asaph Vapor It tells us that Rome is the city where Peter was living and teaching and the church in Rome was the See of Peter, which is why Peter's successors (the Popes) continue to live there. It wasn't the church in Rome that crucified Peter (their own bishop), it was the Roman State. Even in the 20th century, the Catholic Church suffered more at the hands of anti-Christian governments than the other Christian communities. The Church has been the target of attacks from states throughout history.
When you say this what are you saying about Orthodoxy? Especially since they don't exactly agree with your pope stuff
The church teaches that the orthodox teach no wrong and have the same legitimacy as pur church. Currently we are looking for reunification
They have their own popes fyi just a different view on the title
The Eastern Orthodox are currently in schism unfortunately. The Eastern Church Fathers were in agreement that the Bishop of Rome is the successor of Saint Peter the Apostle. This is a collection of quotes from saints venerated by the Eastern Orthodox www.catholicbridge.com/orthodox/pope-orthodox-church-fathers.php
@@grinninglibertarian1990
.I have no idea how what you said correlates with my post
@@grinninglibertarian1990 was talking about the Coptic orthodox pope tawadross ii
I have watched testimonial videos of non Christians with near death experience, standing face to face with Jesus and being sent back to earth. So yes I agree that even non Christians can be saved. Praise God for letting this fact be known to all.
That's a lie and a heresy belief in Christ is necessary for salvation no one goes to the father except through Christ
@jormorcastan Then stop listening to me!
I pray for everyone here their conversion of heart to Jesus Christ, and His truth, His Church. Matt Matthew 16:17-19
17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
Joanne Larcher Peter also established the church in Antioch before the church in Rome. The church in Antioch is the Orthodox Catholic Church which disagrees with many of the Roman church’s doctrines and practices. The same church in Antioch still exists to this very day.
@@mikewiththebluecar The authority of Peter passed on in Rome.
How do I really know what is true Catholicism. I am majorly confused.
@@froginacar631 - No help to your Orthodox friend. ... Logic: If Jesus said he will be with His visible Apostolic Church until the end of time, and he further stated no "gates of hell shall prevailed against it" ... And unfortunately, we see from historical records, the Church from the Early Church days of Christianity was subject to divisions, fall-outs, and schisms (e.g. the number of fall-outs in Ecumenical Councils and the Church Fathers before 700 A.D.), so much so, believers today can not determine which is the true visible Apostolic Church ... What does that tell you ???
Either Jesus broke His promise and left the Church to be divided and go through schisms; or, Jesus's Church is not a VISIBLE ORGANIZATION, what we think it is !
"Catholic Answers" would only give you a Roman Catholic answer.
www.vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM
These links are to the Catechism of the Catholic Church and also the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church from the Vatican's official website, that is why they are vatican.va
Catholic answers is orthodox, easy to understand and easy to navigate website, easily accessible from google or
www.catholic.com/bible-navigator
here's a link to their Bible Navigator
www.catholicbridge.com/catholic/menu-evangelical-faq.php
here's another really good website Catholic Bridge
True Catholicism is the doctrines taught down through the centuries. Anyone saying he has a new teaching or new insight or new anything when it comes to doctrine, do not listen to him.
True Catholicism is what is within the bounds of the Catholic Church in communion with the Pope(the successor of Saint Peter) and the bishops in communion with him. If you are confused, may I suggest the Catechism of the Catholic Church available at the Vatican's official website www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM and two other good sites www.catholic.com/ and www.catholicbridge.com/ and if you decide to become Catholic I am sure you probably have a Catholic parish church (probably multiple) near where you live who you can contact.
@Asaph Vapor Jesus appointed Peter the first Pope (Matthew 16:18) and Jesus prayed for Christian unity (John 17:21). I would also recommend you read Matthew 18:17, and 1 Timothy 3:15.
The one Church of Christ, as a society constituted and organized in the world, subsists in (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him. Only through this Church can one obtain the fullness of the means of salvation since the Lord has entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone whose head is Peter.
I agree.But the wiley bishop isn't expressly denying the hope of salvation to the non Catholic.
All salvation is by means of the Church as she is the only channel of God's grace to the world.
@@wolfthequarrelsome504 All salvation comes from Christ our Lord (the head) through His body (the Catholic Church). But grace and salvation are able to work in invisible ways that we can't see or even understand, and it is possible for someone who never becomes a visible member of the Catholic Church or any other Christian faith community to go to heaven. This is clearly not what we should lead with when it comes to evangelizing, but it's true that sincere ignorance can mitigate or even expunge culpability. Let us not forget chapter 12 in the Gospel according to Saint Luke (Luke 12) in which Christ our Lord says the servant who does what deserves a beating without knowing it deserves a beating will receive a light beating. Are you really going to pretend that it is impossible for a non Christian to go to heaven? What about all those native peoples in the Americas, and Africa, and Asia who never heard the Gospel before they met white men? Do you think they were all automatically damned from the moment they were born because of when and where they were born? If someone is genuinely ignorant and sincerely follows the dictates of their conscience, then that is very different from obstinately rejecting Christianity.
Priests were in the Old Testament under Moses law. The Bible says there is no need for priests anymore because Jesus is the high priest and we are all priests.
??? Did Father say Atheists can be saved if they follow their good conscience? 🤔
How will one be saved if they do not know God or do not believe in God's existence (Ps. 14:1 NKJV; II Thess. 1:8-9 NKJV )? Is the priest trying to give kind words to atheists? Do priests have the right words to say about salvation? Salvation must be based on the Bible and not based on one's opinion.
@@benco2491 yet no one ask.what about before Christ ?what about before Abraham religions ?
America Reigns - that is such an old and tired argument: Re-read Matthew 23 and you will find Jesus is talking about hypocrisy. In this passage Jesus emphasises the sin of pride among the scribes and Pharisees. They loved to be called “teacher”, “father”, or “Rabbi,” but their pride pointed men to themselves rather than to God the Father. Jesus is condemning hypocrisy - not the actual use of the word 'father'.
Remember also that in I Corinthians 4:14-15, the Apostle Paul refers to himself as “father”:
"I do not write this to make you ashamed, but to admonish you as my beloved children. For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers. For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel"
It sounds as though you love the Bible so I do hope you will read these passages carefully to understand the context and exactly what is being taught. God Bless.
What he said is that if a person is genuinely ignorant (meaning it it not their fault they do not know the Truth, people can argue how prevalent this is, but it does exist in the world) the fact that that person is not a Christian does not automatically mean they will definitely go to hell. God's grace is so powerful that it can save anyone, but ignorance is not a guarantee of going to heaven. Someone can go to heaven in spite of ignorance. Not because of ignorance, but in spite of ignorance, if they sincerely follow their conscience. We obviously have to do everything we can to evangelize though.
The Eastern Orthodox is the one true and Apostolic Church. It is time - for Rome and the rest of the west to come back home. Christ is calling us back, Lord give us ears to hear. Amen
Which one? The problem with Eastern Orthodox is that they are too divided and have no Catholic or “Universal” church with dominion over the others…
@christianman73 Well, can fools not be saved?!
#askbishopbarron could you talk about the differences between Orthodox Christianity and Catholicism
Truly the Catholic Church has received the fullness of God's truth and grace. It is only the Catholic Church who recognizes the Mother, though not understood fully. The Immaculate Conception Dogma is one proof of that. However, the fullness of God's Time has yet to come...
If we all can be saved by other religions then why not go to the least demanding, the coolest, with no big moral dilemmas and quandaries, user friendly, with no painful guilt, where you can be yourself the way you want yourself to be? In other words, make up a religion and you'll be saved...
I have watched testimonial videos of non Christians with near death experience, standing face to face with Jesus and being sent back to earth. So yes I agree that even non Christians can be saved. Praise God for letting this fact be known to all.
Paul tells us how to know the true body of Christ: “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? Because there is one bread, we who are many are one body, for we all partake of the one bread.” 1 Corinthians 10:16-17
Jesus did not say...I am the fullness. He said that no one comes to the Father except through Him...and He says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life".
I'm afraid your universal salvation is misleading, and is compromising God's standards.
God Bless You Father Robert Barron Thank you
Hi. Do you agree with Robert Barron? I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh You are getting quite repetitive, how many times will you post this stupid comment? I bet you don't even know where your Bible came from.
the Catholic faith is faith in jesus Christ as saviour and St Peter the rock on who Christ built his church the church of Christ is universal its Catholic baptise people in the name of the father the son and the holy ghost God is one gods church is one
kudos! god bless you!
I have been a devout Roman Catholic since 1961, but I renounced my Roman Catholic faith in 2022 for two chief reasons: one, the Roman Catholic faith is not aligned with the Bible; and two, I was spiritually liberated by the book I read entitled "Altar of Secrets: Sex, Politics, and Money in the Philippine Catholic Church" by Aries C. Rufo. I am now a happily born again Christian . . . much better because its Bible-centered! The Word of God, the Bible, is true food and real drink (John 6:63) not transubstantiation.
But then The Church says things like "God isn't bound by the Sacraments etc." You can twist that anyway you want, but people will say, well God will twist it for me then and bail. The fullness also makes me cringe too. If we aren't solid in our teaching, if we are wishy-washy or people see any sign of weakness they will not follow.
Man, could you drop your prejudices and instinctual anti-Catholicism for maybe two minutes and actually listen to what is being said?!!
Christ said to Peter that if they reject him meaning if you reject the Pope and the Catholic Church it is like you are rejecting Christ
Christ never said that to Peter alone. He said it to all the apostles.
0:57 - Gifts are not what makes our salvation "available to us", it is Jesus' blood that makes it available. Because WE do not make or earn our salvation through gifts. We dont do anything for our salvation, then that would be works based faith which is denounced everywhere in the bible, and a free gift would not be free if we have to work for it (James 1:17). The only thing that covers our sins sufficiently enough is the blood of Jesus. Not works so that we may not boast (Ephesians 2: 9). Abraham BELIEVED and it was credited to him as righteousness (Genesis 15), way before he was asked to sacrifice Isaac (a work in Genesis 22). With peace and Love I appreciate your content
In addition, what do you mean exactly by "sincerely follow their consciences?"
Thank you and God bless
But once a person comes to know the truth, he must embrace it or he will be culpable of rejecting it. We see this in Jesus’ words to the Pharisees: “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains” (Jn 9:41). Paul taught likewise concerning the Gentiles:
When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)
Notice Paul’s carefully chosen words: “their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them.” Paul did not say that those who are innocently ignorant of the truth will be saved; he simply keeps open the possibility of it.
You see I have a problem with that statement the Vatican II issued. I personally see it as kind of vague and needs to be more expounded on. Take for example, an extremist/fanatic religious person sincerely followed his/her conscience to bomb Place A killing hundreds of people based on his/her belief that he/she would go to Heaven. Now would that person gain Salvation because he/she followed sincerely his/her conscience? Or better yet, should the phrase "according to the Will of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" be added to "sincerely follow their own consciences"?. Please enlighten me. Thank you for those who would reply.
@@davidizsak1161 Thank you.
It is true that the inculpably ignorant can be saved if they are not formally Catholic but this bit of reasonable mercy on God's part has become an excuse for many to say that all can be saved, with or without faith in Christ.
Do you live in Borneo? Have you never heard of Jesus Christ? Yes, you might can be saved without being on a parish register. Do you live in modern America, where even the smalkest towns have Catholic churches? Then you have a duty to search for the truth. If you refuse to search for the truth your soul will not be saved.
@@davidizsak1161 And what about modern Protestants? "Hallelujah, brethren, I got the Holy Ghost! I got the Holy Ghost.!" If they really did have the Holy Spirit He would lead them to the Catholic Church.
"How can you tell if someine is filled with the Holy Spirit? By how much they love the Catholic Church."
--St. Augustine
"The Holy Spirit called me to the Catholuc Church, and I was a sinner. How, then, can heretics claim to be so sanctified, and yet cannot find the Catholic Church?"
--also St. Augustine
sooryu, Bishop' you've omitted the fact that the Orthodox Church is 'the Church' you guys spplit away in 1054 AD
Both sides have accepted some fault for that. Pope excommunicated the Bishop of Constantinople, he in turn excommunicated all Catholics... bad bad bad for us all. But it happened.
Actually it was the ancestors of the Eastern Orthodox and the ancestors of the Oriental Orthodox who left the Catholic Church. Here are some Eastern saints who I am sure you venerate (like Saints Cyril and Methodius for example) talking about the primacy of the Bishop of Rome www.catholicbridge.com/orthodox/pope-orthodox-church-fathers.php
@tommax26 Friend, you're conflating the objective and the subjective here. Someone can be doing something objectively wrong but still remain sinless, in the measure that he is following his conscience. We should endeavor, of course, to inform our consciences properly, but there is still a sovereignty to even a poorly formed conscience when it comes to the question of subjective guilt or innocence.
Bishop Robert Barron you are a heretic. Jesus is the only one sinless. Even the virgin was a sinner.
I believe you are giving far too much credence to the individual conscience here, Bishop. Ratzinger's short treatise 'On Conscience' is a good antidote to what seems to be your take here (albeit 7 years ago). Conscience is malleable, can be damaged, and is fallen. We all have an obligation to purify our consciences. To assign a sovereignty to the individual conscience is therefore misguided, though it doesn't take away from the importance of the faculty.
John 14:6 -Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. are we not to follow the bible more so than Vatican 11 or am I missing something. are we not saved by faith in Jesus ?
@wordonfirevideo Thanks for the inciteful answer. And excuse my bad spelling too, it didn't really have time to check it clearly through. As a baptist, i must say that im bombarded with the calvinistic sort of interpretation of scripture that says that Christ unconditionally elected people to be saved and that christ's limited atonement is only for his elect. Its a form of predestination that i find worrying and i fear is infecting many protestant, evangelical churches..:(
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We Catholics know that Christ is the one mediator. When we pray we say "through Christ Our Lord, Amen", and Jesus is the center of Catholic life and worship. Jesus Himself sent us the apostles and their successors (the bishops and priests). Jesus told them "Whoever listens to you, listens to me, whoever rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16) The Pope is the successor to Saint Peter who was already acting as Pope when he settled the dispute at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15. Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven which reminds us of the Old Testament theme where the king gives the keys to the kingdom to his chief steward. Peter was special which is proven by the fact that Jesus told him to "feed my sheep, feed my lambs, feed my sheep" after He appeared to the apostles after the Resurrection (John 21:17). Jesus also told Peter to strengthen the faith of his brothers (Luke 22:32). In Acts, the Apostles are often referred to as "Peter and the other Apostles".
Hi. I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, said that baptism and holy communion are necessary in Sacred Scripture. "Truly, truly, I tell you, unless one is born of water and Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God John 3:5. Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. John 6:53
@@kenshiloh Almighty God gave the world the Holy Bible using the Catholic Church. It was a Catholic Church council that established the canon of New Testament books that Protestants use to this day. John 3:5 makes it clear baptism is necessary John 6:53 proves the necessity of holy communion
@@davidizsak1161 Hi. Where in the Bible does it say that 'born of water' is the same as baptism?
Secondly, Jesus spoke in parables, so eating the flesh of the Son of Man is to be taken metaphorically. A man is spiritually born again and requires spiritual, not fleshly, food.
Yet, let's suppose that your interpretations are correct. What do you do with the words of Christ, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him"? Would you say to the Lord, "No, that is not true! Asking is not enough!"? Moreover, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." Will you add to the Word of God, "No Paul. Calling on the Name of the Lord is not enough. What you say is not true"?
You can only see the flesh, which counts for nothing. I hope that you will get to know Christ - just by asking! Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh being "born of water and spirit" is clearly a reference to baptism. In fact, Christ directed His apostles to baptize all nations in Matthew 28:19-20. Also, our Lord was clearly not speaking figuratively in John 6 because the majority of His disciples were disgusted and left Him and instead of running after them saying, wait it's another parable, He turned to the twelve and asked them if they would leave too
"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through Me.'" (John 14:6). Fullness of life, fellowship with the Lord, and salvation is found in Jesus Christ. Not through good works, not through good will, and not through a "partial truth". Jesus Christ is the only way.
When Paul wrote to Corinth, he urged the importance of following Christ, not Paul or Cephas, or Apollos. Is Christ divided? Is it possible to follow "a part of Christ or a part of the truth"? No. You don't need to follow the traditions of man to know the Lord. He has risen so that we might know Him. Repent and believe in Jesus.
Travis White So true...
Thus as no man goeth to the Father but by the Son, so no man goeth to Christ but by His Mother.
Encyclical Octobri Mense of Pope Leo XIII, 22 September 1891, 4:6.
Can you based your explanation in the Bible... What Book in the Bible we can find that the Roman catholic church is the fullness of GOD's?
Rather like shopping in Harrods as opposed to going round a lot of cheap corner shops, I suppose.
how can "atheists of good will " be saved?
There's no such thing as an "atheist of good will"
Eddie-John Folan - it's my understanding that they can come to accept Christ and therefore be saved. In that sense, anyone and everyone can be saved if only they accept Christ and repent of their sins.
St. Dismas lived a life of sin until his final day on Earth; certainly not one of Faith, Hope, and Charity.
What if they are not exposed to God? Going to church is a privilege, even in the modern world. Tone down your preaching.
Did you just assumed I was an atheist? Talking about judgement....
"When there is an imminent danger for the Faith, Prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects." - St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica II, II, q. 33, a. 4
"It is better that scandals arise than the truth be suppressed." - Pope St. Gregory the Great
“The road to hell is paved with the skulls of erring priests, with bishops as their sign posts." - St. John Chrysostom
Christus vincit! Christus regnat! Christus imperat!
The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states:
This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience-those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)
Vatican II document Gaudium Et Spes teaches similarly on the possibility of salvation:
All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery. (22)
This teaching is consistent with Jesus’ own teaching about those who innocently reject him: “If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin” (Jn 15:22).
But once a person comes to know the truth, he must embrace it or he will be culpable of rejecting it. We see this in Jesus’ words to the Pharisees: “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains” (Jn 9:41). Paul taught likewise concerning the Gentiles:
When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)
Notice Paul’s carefully chosen words: “their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them.” Paul did not say that those who are innocently ignorant of the truth will be saved; he simply keeps open the possibility of it.
Similarly, he wrote: “[I]s God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one; and he will justify the circumcised on the ground of their faith and the uncircumcised through their faith” (Rom 3:29-30).
David Izsak well done. Thank you and God bless you. ☦️👍🏽
Some of my MA professors are Baptists, AoG and Anglican who have views very similar to yours, Matey.
I really feel that you are missing something in your examination of The Church and find that if I can 'get it' (staunch Catholic) then, evidently, you should get it too! I don't want you down the slope you're on because soon it will be a matter of indignant pride that prevents you from looking up and grab hold of the brink to pull yourself out!
@Yankeesfanforlife5 Well, I'm on board with the official teaching of the Church as articulated at Vatican II. I'm not sure what ship you're on. Until I'm sure, I'm certainly not tempted to get on board.
Vatican II was the French Revolution in the Church
The Catholic Church is saying that other faiths are not damned but that the through the the CC is the best way to be saved.
+Steven JG I am an expert. The classic joke being. St. Paul was talking to a Protestant in heaven and there was a wall nearby . The Protestant asked why is there a wall here. The reply, because The Catholics believe they are the only ones here. Was Adam and Eve Catholic?
+Steven JG Yes, no where does it say only Catholics and I am one, goto heaven.
+Steven JG I have a copy of most of the essential Catholic dogmas. Tell me where it says that only Catholics goto heaven and I'll look it up.
+Steven JG And King David, the Psalmist. Is he in Hell too?
+Steven JG You are making ignorant and false statements about the Catholic Church. They are lies. And if knowingly doing so, a violation of the Ten Commandments.
I'm sorry but atheists who claim God is dead can't achieve salvation, that would make God an hypocrite. Your conscious means nothing if you deny our Lord.
But Vatican II clearly teaches that even atheists who are sincerely following their conscience can be saved.
But Bishop, how can people who deny the Lord be saved? Seems nonsensical to me. I understand that, say, people who've never heard of our faith can be saved if they live according to natural law, but how can an atheist, which mostly a western world thing, be saved if he does not believe? If he rejects the sacraments? If he rejects the Trinity? If he rejects the saints? I believe that said teaching needs to be clarified, or atleast explained more clearly.
May God bless you and the Church.
Bishop Robert Barron When are you gonna realize that this council is a joke, like all Catholic councils post-schism.
You know very well this is wrong Bishop, Only way to the Father is through the Son.
Your exelency we know what Vatican II teaches, but this kind of teaching as of Vatican II as many others is in direct contradiction of previous church teachings in the past it just proves that Vatican II teaching is heretical.
Bishop Robert Barron What if their conscience is sincerely telling them to do something evil in God's eyes. The Bible says the heart is deceitful and desperately wicked...
It seems like whenever Catholics address the questions of them being the “one true church” or “salvation being found outside of Catholicism” that they just address non-Christian religions and those who haven’t heard the Gospel before but have varying degrees of revelation.
As a Protestant I just want to hear Catholics plainly address Protestants in these questions.
What fullness mr. Priest ? would you mind explaining.
Fr Barron, a true "Conciliar" churchman, cannot give a straight answer. It takes him one whole minute to say absolutely...Nothing!
Nothing, that is, except newchurchspeak rubbish about "fullness". Fullness is what Cardinal Dolan feels after one of his sumptuous Italian feeds - eg. October last year during the Synod on the Family - all he had on his mind was food.
Fr Barron basically says the Catholic Church is not that different from all the other "churches" and even non-"Christian" faiths - well, maybe true for you Fr Barron, but I believe lots of things that are very very different from Protestants, let alone Hindus and Muslims. Like the sacrament they desecrated - the Mass, like the ones they completely dropped - Confession and Extreme Unction, like the other sacrament they mutilated - Marriage, like belief in the Pope as Vicar of Christ, like prayer to the Saints being totally valid, like belief that relics have a sacred function in the life of the Church (every altar must be built on a relic), like prayer to Our Blessed Lady the Mother of God, and I could go on...
It's not a matter of "fullness" and something a little less than "fullness". It is about Faith vs absence of Faith, day vs night. Fr Barron is a disgrace.
This nothing but lies.
Pray for this Priest.
This Dogma has bee taught and believed and defended.
Jason Burdette I'm defending the ecclesiology put forth by the Second Vatican Council. I can't imagine a higher or more reliable authority for Catholic teaching.
+Bishop Robert Barron, the Second Vatican Council wasn't infallible, nor was it ecumenical, rather it was merely a pastoral council. The ambiguity, and flat out heresy, in the documents are a rupture from the true Catholic Faith handed down for roughly 1,960 years. You act as if the Church has only existed since Paul VI. You also commit apostasy by teaching "even atheists can be saved". That is an abominable lie.
+Bishop Robert Barron There is nothing that has more authority then the word of god
+david hilario the word of Scooby Doo has more authority than the 'word of god'
Saul was Mr. Antichrist, but he was saved and became the Apostle Paul. It happened to him, it can happen to anyone else as well I guess.
Of course we're right and everyone is wrong, father. But you speak what people want to hear these days, with their itching ears.
Jesus said, "My People are My Church".
My name is brother Nihit Arora, I was born & brought up in a hindu family till 2012 then surrendered my life to JESUS my Lord & saviour, a pentecostal spirit filled praying in tongues protestant But headed to join catholic church after got answers to all of my questions which I never ever got from my protestant church(s) since 11 years of my faithful walk in pentecostal denomination(s). Now I'm convinced there is only ONE HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH which catholic church only, whom Jesus gave the keys to st. Peter.
There is One Truth. That is the Catholic Truth. Other Churches has truth, but do not have the fullness of that therefore salvation is cut from them. The only way Non-Christians and Atheists can be saved is if they have never encountered the Church, which is impossible for Atheism.
Bishop Robert Barron
Bible says Jesus was "Muslim". The meaning of the Greek word "Catholic" is "complete/perfect". Hebrew word "Muslim" also means "Perfect".
Paul says in Romans 2:13-15
13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 When Gentiles, who do not possess the law, do instinctively what the law requires, these, though not having the law, are a law to themselves. 15 They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God, through Jesus Christ, will judge the secret thoughts of all.
Therefore, if someone who does not possess God and the Church does instinctively what God and the Church requires, who is anybody to say that such people cannot eventually be saved? As Fr. Mitch Pacwa has often said, "God is management, we are in sales." Therefore, it is ultimately up to God to say what happens to us all.
I think the bishop's response is weak. It's like saying we Catholics have the fullness of truth, but you can still get by on junk food or other non-optimal diets from other faiths and still be okay with God.
Incorrect. The catechism plainly states that the Church is the ONLY path to salvation. Period. It also says, however, that God is merciful. Many people never heard of the Catholic Faith or never joined for reasons that weren't their fault, so we trust that God takes those factors into account so that even an atheist has a chance for salvation.
Other than that, if you know the Gospel and you know that the Catholic Church is God's true Church, then you have a moral obligation to join it and submit to God's will, or you place your salvation in jeopardy.
Yes.
The similarities is they argue the contrary with erroneous or misinterpreted 'evidence' and then stubbornly hold them without examining or refuse to re-examine the evidence properly....because it counters / destroys their conclusion from the same evidence!
As I point out to 'Vacants' I've encountered, Remember that Our Lord asked our first Pope, over and over and over.."Do you love me?" That question requires FAITH, TRUST, OBEDIENCE to answer!
I failed all three but cannot leave Him!
"...He was ours [a Christian] even BEFORE he was of our fold. His way of living made him such. For just as many of ours are not with us, whose life makes them other from our body [the Church], so many of those outside [the Church] belong to us, who by their way of life anticipate the faith and need only the name, having the reality..."
- St. Gregory of Nazianzus - (c. 374 AD) - emphasis mine
Hmm...very similar to Augustine's thoughts!
"we are right, everybody else is wrong" and "the catholic church has the fullness of truth" is exactly the same thing
I was thinking more along three passages; "Those with us are not against us!" (paraphrased) and the parables of the talents! Everyone getting paid the same despite their length of 'service'...and the servants who use their 'talents' to multiply or bury their talent for fear of losing it for the master before he returns!
That 'gatherith' bit in Luke is where you should be focusing. (You have a Douay?)
I don't like 'snippets' because prots use it to play 'hide & seek' among Scriptures.
@wordonfirevideo No, I wouldn't dare to engage in argument with you, You are a very well artculated and very Smart guy. that is the real reason why I watch your clips, however I just can't velieve in God any more and if I compare myself before and after I prefer the kind of person I am today. I enjoy watching your clips very much.
Thanks Father Barron
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Only God knows if someone is "joined" to Him or not at the hour of their death! That is what the Church has always taught!
I am not a fan of word games. Having said that, is the Roman Catholic denomination the true church? No. When one says “Catholic Church”, it has two different meanings. If one is using the word “church” the way it was the first three hundred years of Christianity, where it is referring to believers, who are born again then yes. If it is referring to the denomination then it is only partly true. There are born again believers who have identified themselves with Christ within the denomination. It is this way with every denomination. Prior to the 4th century there was no denomination structure. The word “Catholic”, meaning universal, referred to the universal church. But this all changed thanks to a pagan by the name of Emperor Constantine. He never was converted like history like to make him out to be, but brought in pagan ideas into the body of worship we still see today.
Being gracious and polite does not mean he presented a FALSE assertion! You now begin to open a can of worms against EVERY other writing of the ECFs and Church document, which is groundless!
The letter is complete as I found it in several copies I've studied. Even allowing for your correction, it speaks the same as I've used it.
I am bringing up Paul so you can try and see the equivalence in what MTheresa, JP2 and Ben16 have done or are doing!
IF you do not see it, then have the humility to think that maybe your understanding is limited compared to The Church's mind....because, that is precisely what is happening!
How can anyone say that the Catholic Church is the “one true church” when it doesn’t follow the commandments of Jesus Christ??? Why do you STILL pray to idols and why have you changed the Sabbath day from the Sabbath (the 7th day to Sunday)? The Jesuit Oath is as cruel as any demonic oath could be, it represents the your church. It is God’s will for man to marry, yet you do the opposite. So many inconsistencies with this Catholic Church! Love God in spirits and in truth, not with rituals and traditions. Blessed be the name of the Lord!
It makes me so mad that they think that what their doing is true. The pope the leader of the Catholic Church has done stuff that repeaent the mark of the beast, idk how that’s a true Christian church
Do you follow the commandment of Christ your self.. guess wt urself
Pope Pius IX, Vatican I, Sess. III, Chap. 3, ex cathedra: “Further, by divine and Catholic faith, all those things must be believed which are contained in the written word of God and in tradition, and those which are proposed by the Church, either in a solemn pronouncement or in her ordinary and universal teaching power, to be believed as divinely revealed.”
Beautiful! You're with me!
Now, if he taught heresy, what is required is a collegiate of bishops to call a council to have him explain himself! Something similar has happened many times in the past and the Popes of the time either sent legats or REFUSED to! Then we can see if there is a case to be answered! But if there is NO council, and the majority of global bishops do not see a case, I have to remain LOYAL and TRUST, Christ! It is ALWAYS, HIM that matters, not the distractions!
I am not sure if 'full' communion is the right term, since the scism still stands (although the mutual 'anathema 'was lifted). As churches go though Catholic, Eastern and Orthodox churces are very close to each other, also theologically and I hope soon to see them reunited.
Hi. Do you consider protestants to be 'brothers in Christ'? I am not a Catholic; I would be willing to become one, but I do not think that Catholics are being true to the Bible. For example, I am told that Catholics believe communion and baptism are necessary for salvation. Yet, Paul wrote, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved." It would seem that the Catholic gospel is, "Whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord, is baptized Catholic, and partakes of Catholic communion might be saved." Paul warned, "Whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed."
Jesus said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Do you not have a different gospel? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
THIS IS CORRECT. YES, HE'S RIGHT. THINK ON HIM.
This really shocked me because Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
This seems pretty exclusive to me.
Also, when Jesus says in the gospel of John says, "One must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven." What does that mean? As a protestant I know there are differing opinions that Catholics have on that verse than we do (baptism to holy spirit regeneration), but either way he is making an exclusive statement here.
I was shocked to hear this from a Bishop. We Catholics dont believe in that
How could a Christian believe that one can be saved without confessing a belief in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sins?
We have free will though sadly many people are blocked from receiving the full truth of the Gospel. Because of this sinful world.
Hey, I can certainly admit to much confusion myself, what with Priests facing away from the tabernacle; band music in church; DANCING in church; all kinds of novelties..!!
But instead of leaving, LEARN from the ECFs to understand the mind of The Church who does as Christ WOULD DO!!
Salvation o/s has ALWAYS been 'possible' but we didn't understand HOW it can be!
Now we do, and not a syllable of 'Nulla Sallus' changed! It simply meant MORE than we thought!
No one comes to the Father but through me .Did Jesues say that or not .It must have been discussed at the meetings of the Vatican Council .My only conclusion is they must have got the translation wrong again .
Hi David. Thanks for writing. Christ said, "My Father will give the Holy Spirit to whoever asks of Him." Hence, if a person asks, they will have the Holy Spirit, they will be born again, they will be saved. Do you agree? Jesus Christ is the light of the world.