Thank you for a very clear explanation for what is a very user unfriendly program - it was written by software engineers for software engineers (or experienced system admins) and without this 20 minute video I would have struggled I now understand the difference between sync and back up and why sync is what I wanted. I recently bought a new QNAP NAS as a backup to a venerable but rock solid existing QNAP NAS which I use to store my media library (films, TV, music), family photos, work and emails. I have set up sync to run different schedules: email & work gets sync every couple of hours, other folders once a week. The only thing which I do not understand, is why when I sync the music files, the NAS 2 album folders have a load of extra "AlbumArt{xxxx}.jpg" files which are not present in the original folder
The reason you are getting the album art is most likely from the Multimedia console from music albums or vidoe. Goto the multimedia console and look at all the settings . I am sure you will find something there, BTW, I just finished a part 1 of going through every basic setting and I am working on part 2 which will cover things like this. Hope that helps.
Great video! Could you suggest me the best way to backup nas to nas an iscsi lun volume? I use two virtual machines on windows server 2016 both connected to lun iscsi disks on qnap. I have a second twin qnap that I would like to use as a disaster recovery of the first.
The best way is to set them up as high availability. There is a technical brief on how to do that on their web site. You effectively create hardware redundancy. Your hardware (NAS Units) have to the requirements but it would be the best way. Anything else will be a straight backup.
It creates a folder to represent the backup set and to put everything from that backup. You may want multiple backup sets in the same location, Hope that helps.
Hi Mike,thanks for helping me to understand HBC 3. Question: I have HBS 3 Hybrid Backup on an external 10GB drive,approx 1TG backup file. I have tried restoring it with QuDedup Extract Tool, but I cant extract My backed-up (1TG)files QuDedup Extract Tool only extracts a snapshot of the newly installed Data Volume, empty Download, multimedia home and Public Folders. I cant extract any of my backed-up files from the HBS 3 Hybrid Backup .QDFF file
The backup QDFF files are intended to be recovered by HBS 3 and the process works better. Personally I do not use dedupe. I know it saves space but there is a small room for error. Also you have to make sure that all your folders you want to back up are selected. If you have the space, I would recommend using sync instead of backup. Synced files are directly accessible and are not compressed. THis is the best way if you have the room otherwise use back without the debup. Hope that helps. In case you have not seen them I have done a couple of videos on sync including cloud sync. Here is a link to one of them: th-cam.com/video/63WwgBXyLBU/w-d-xo.html
If you use a program such as Acronis (th-cam.com/video/8KcE-1Co7-I/w-d-xo.html) or what ever else you want you can use you NAS as the repository. There are no backup programs that "pull" data from another device that I am aware of. Images usually originate from the PC. Great question.
@@MikeFaucher I was thinking it may have a Windows HBS client app you install then enter the NAS IP and setup a routine to "pull" from? Thanks for this video
I am using the backup function to backup a large library of movies to an attached USB drive. I'm familiar with acronis so was a bit surprised that you can't restore single files......only the whole folder. Maybe using a synch job is a better option although I guess it will use more space?
I have always found syncing to be a better option for me as it allows me access to my data if the NAS is down. Space vs convenience and safety. Great point. Thanks
@@MikeFaucher I just checked and the backup files are the same size as the originals. Given it takes 12 hours to do a backup I think the synch option is better and more flexible. I'll stick to backup for other items like photos and documents. Thanks for your great video!
I have two networks. The documentation says I can select which network to use for backup. I can't see how to select which network in the job options. Any ideas?
This may be the way they are explaining it. You do not pick a network directly but rather the device(s) you are backing up and the destination when could be on an entirely different network. As long as there is connectivity, it will work. Hope that helps.
Hi, Currently I have an older QNAP TS-221 which has the orig HBS app. My NAS is a 2 bay and only 1 HDD is used System + Data. I normally backup to the USB Ext on the rear of the NAS with HSB App. I was wondering if it is possible to Backup Data to a 2nd drive if put into the NAS instead ?
Yes, you can if you set it up as a standalone drive. If the drive is exactly the same as the one in your NAS, why not set it as a mirror? That way if you have one drive fail, the other will just keep working.
Hi Mike. Great video. When I create a backup job from my TS453Be to my TS421 it doesn't create the backup in the backup format, i.e. no .qdff folder and subfolders as per your example. The backed up files are in their original format and structure just like a sync job. However, when I back up the same job to an external drive it does use the backup format. Any idea why the backup does not behave like a backup when backing up to the TS421? Thanks.
To backup to a remote nas assuming it is on the same local network, setup RTRR with the same password on each side. If theyare are offsite, you need to setup a VPN first.
Great Video, well done. Question: I have a 2 Bay Qnap. I am only using 1 bay with a 4TB WD-RED. The OS, Virtual Machines, Docker Containers, Applications, FILES, etc are all store in that 1 Drive. In have backups of the files in other External media, so if the Qnap dies I have acess to my files (covered there). I wanted to replace my 4 TB Western Didital Red "spinning rust" with a 4 TB SSD from Samsung. How do I do that, without having to reconfigure the entire Qnap NAS(installing all VMs, Applications, etc)? Can I "clone" my WD drive to the SSD and then remove the WD. Will Qnap accept the new cloned SSD drive and work like nothing happened?
I have never tried a clone but I do not think it will support it internally but it may work by cloning the drive with external software such as acronis or samsungs cloning software but I have not tried it.
@@MikeFaucher I've tried Clone and it wont be recognized in the NAS as the NAS allocates a unique ID for that specific drive and the ID cannot be used on a different drive. Its a real pain in the A#$. I ended up doing all from scratch and the data took 4 days to copy over using mapped network drives of the NAS from the Ext USB since using HSB app in multiple jobs the NAS fell over on every job due to lack of resources and a fixed internal non expandable 1GB Memory and ran 7 times slower than via mapped drives. (TS-221 QNAP).
May I ask what kind of password you input for Destination NAS? How can restrict this account to be limited privileges to access some folder only? Thanks
I can use some advice, my QNAP doesn't restore my backup, it seems just to have copied the whole backupfile ( from external HD to my NAS) I deleted that backupfile from my NAS to make space, what can I do to RESTORE!!! my backupfile to my NAS?
If the backup file was made from HBS3, you should be able to run HBS3 restore on your NAS, create a restore job like in the video, and point to the external drive. If I understand, correctly this should work fine. Let me know.
@@MikeFaucher If I remember well, that is what I did and which resulted in a copy of the the backup file and nothing restored. I will do it again and hope for the best. Thanks for the reply, I report back how it went.
@@MikeFaucher Hello Mike, I tried again, and it worked....kind of. I could NOT select Original Location or DataVol1 as restore location, only sub directories. I selected "Public" as restore location and at least it did restore my files but now I cannot move my files to the DataVol1 location and not even access it. $&^&#**#(*)%()*##$&#()#$(# ! I can use a video how to format my entire NAS and start from scratch, this grap is driving me nuts
@@edmundzed9870 Sorry you are having so many issues. Have you tried reaching out to their tech support? Sometimes takes a couple of rounds, but they have been helpful in the past. I have a few videos on setting up a NAS correctly (IMO), but I do not have one from start to finish. I will add one to my list of upcoming videos.
If you have configured Snapshots you can go back, otherwise you have to remove it. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/1momma30bvo/w-d-xo.html and I would also suggest reaching out to their tech support to help your clean it off.
I like QNAP they have a lot of cool built in apps. Thanks for sharing this one
Glad you like it and thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for a very clear explanation for what is a very user unfriendly program - it was written by software engineers for software engineers (or experienced system admins) and without this 20 minute video I would have struggled
I now understand the difference between sync and back up and why sync is what I wanted. I recently bought a new QNAP NAS as a backup to a venerable but rock solid existing QNAP NAS which I use to store my media library (films, TV, music), family photos, work and emails.
I have set up sync to run different schedules: email & work gets sync every couple of hours, other folders once a week.
The only thing which I do not understand, is why when I sync the music files, the NAS 2 album folders have a load of extra "AlbumArt{xxxx}.jpg" files which are not present in the original folder
The reason you are getting the album art is most likely from the Multimedia console from music albums or vidoe. Goto the multimedia console and look at all the settings . I am sure you will find something there, BTW, I just finished a part 1 of going through every basic setting and I am working on part 2 which will cover things like this. Hope that helps.
Thank you for making this video! That was very helpful
Great to hear, thanks for the feedback.
Another video with great content! i learned a lot. Thanks Mike!
Great to hear. Thanks.
Great video! Could you suggest me the best way to backup nas to nas an iscsi lun volume? I use two virtual machines on windows server 2016 both connected to lun iscsi disks on qnap. I have a second twin qnap that I would like to use as a disaster recovery of the first.
The best way is to set them up as high availability. There is a technical brief on how to do that on their web site. You effectively create hardware redundancy. Your hardware (NAS Units) have to the requirements but it would be the best way. Anything else will be a straight backup.
Great video as usual.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Why does it create an extra folder in the destination with the job name?
It creates a folder to represent the backup set and to put everything from that backup. You may want multiple backup sets in the same location, Hope that helps.
Hi Mike,thanks for helping me to understand HBC 3. Question: I have HBS 3 Hybrid Backup on an external 10GB drive,approx 1TG backup file. I have tried restoring it with QuDedup Extract Tool, but I cant extract My backed-up (1TG)files QuDedup Extract Tool only extracts a snapshot of the newly installed Data Volume, empty Download, multimedia home and Public Folders.
I cant extract any of my backed-up files from the HBS 3 Hybrid Backup .QDFF file
The backup QDFF files are intended to be recovered by HBS 3 and the process works better. Personally I do not use dedupe. I know it saves space but there is a small room for error. Also you have to make sure that all your folders you want to back up are selected. If you have the space, I would recommend using sync instead of backup. Synced files are directly accessible and are not compressed. THis is the best way if you have the room otherwise use back without the debup. Hope that helps. In case you have not seen them I have done a couple of videos on sync including cloud sync. Here is a link to one of them:
th-cam.com/video/63WwgBXyLBU/w-d-xo.html
Great content!!
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Will this backup a Windows PC over the network? Not seen a video on that
I agree, Would love to see a video on PC backup, Mike , if you have the time.
If you use a program such as Acronis (th-cam.com/video/8KcE-1Co7-I/w-d-xo.html) or what ever else you want you can use you NAS as the repository. There are no backup programs that "pull" data from another device that I am aware of. Images usually originate from the PC. Great question.
@@MikeFaucher I was thinking it may have a Windows HBS client app you install then enter the NAS IP and setup a routine to "pull" from? Thanks for this video
I am using the backup function to backup a large library of movies to an attached USB drive. I'm familiar with acronis so was a bit surprised that you can't restore single files......only the whole folder. Maybe using a synch job is a better option although I guess it will use more space?
I have always found syncing to be a better option for me as it allows me access to my data if the NAS is down. Space vs convenience and safety. Great point. Thanks
@@MikeFaucher from what I can tell video formats don't compress down anyway. I probably need to experiment a bit more.
@@shegocrazy @shegocrazy You are absolutely right and that has been my observation with video files. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
@@MikeFaucher I just checked and the backup files are the same size as the originals. Given it takes 12 hours to do a backup I think the synch option is better and more flexible. I'll stick to backup for other items like photos and documents. Thanks for your great video!
I have two networks. The documentation says I can select which network to use for backup. I can't see how to select which network in the job options. Any ideas?
This may be the way they are explaining it. You do not pick a network directly but rather the device(s) you are backing up and the destination when could be on an entirely different network. As long as there is connectivity, it will work. Hope that helps.
@@MikeFaucher Hmmm. Thanks. In prior releases it was possible to select the adapter. Now the only way I can see to do it is QuWAN. Thanks.
Hi, Currently I have an older QNAP TS-221 which has the orig HBS app. My NAS is a 2 bay and only 1 HDD is used System + Data. I normally backup to the USB Ext on the rear of the NAS with HSB App. I was wondering if it is possible to Backup Data to a 2nd drive if put into the NAS instead ?
Yes, you can if you set it up as a standalone drive. If the drive is exactly the same as the one in your NAS, why not set it as a mirror? That way if you have one drive fail, the other will just keep working.
@@MikeFaucher The first drive contains the OS with a unique ID, is the OS mirrored as well for a drive swap should the 1st drive totally fail?
How do I restore from an AWS backup?
AWS is just a different destination. You would follow the same approach but connect to the AWS cloud
Hi Mike. Great video. When I create a backup job from my TS453Be to my TS421 it doesn't create the backup in the backup format, i.e. no .qdff folder and subfolders as per your example. The backed up files are in their original format and structure just like a sync job. However, when I back up the same job to an external drive it does use the backup format. Any idea why the backup does not behave like a backup when backing up to the TS421? Thanks.
The difference is the "DeDupe" option. You have enabled on the external drive and on the NAS backup. Great question.
Hello, I want to use Remote Nas Sync job but when I create the job it cannot connect the remote NAS. how should I solve it?
To backup to a remote nas assuming it is on the same local network, setup RTRR with the same password on each side. If theyare are offsite, you need to setup a VPN first.
Great Video, well done.
Question: I have a 2 Bay Qnap. I am only using 1 bay with a 4TB WD-RED. The OS, Virtual Machines, Docker Containers, Applications, FILES, etc are all store in that 1 Drive. In have backups of the files in other External media, so if the Qnap dies I have acess to my files (covered there). I wanted to replace my 4 TB Western Didital Red "spinning rust" with a 4 TB SSD from Samsung. How do I do that, without having to reconfigure the entire Qnap NAS(installing all VMs, Applications, etc)? Can I "clone" my WD drive to the SSD and then remove the WD. Will Qnap accept the new cloned SSD drive and work like nothing happened?
I have never tried a clone but I do not think it will support it internally but it may work by cloning the drive with external software such as acronis or samsungs cloning software but I have not tried it.
@@MikeFaucher I've tried Clone and it wont be recognized in the NAS as the NAS allocates a unique ID for that specific drive and the ID cannot be used on a different drive. Its a real pain in the A#$. I ended up doing all from scratch and the data took 4 days to copy over using mapped network drives of the NAS from the Ext USB since using HSB app in multiple jobs the NAS fell over on every job due to lack of resources and a fixed internal non expandable 1GB Memory and ran 7 times slower than via mapped drives. (TS-221 QNAP).
Please share me how sync sub folders from local pc to nas?
You typically share the NAS to PC, not the PC to the NAS. Hope that helps.
May I ask what kind of password you input for Destination NAS? How can restrict this account to be limited privileges to access some folder only? Thanks
The backup are setup and one using the admin account so access to the folders are not an issue.
I can use some advice, my QNAP doesn't restore my backup, it seems just to have copied the whole backupfile ( from external HD to my NAS) I deleted that backupfile from my NAS to make space, what can I do to RESTORE!!! my backupfile to my NAS?
If the backup file was made from HBS3, you should be able to run HBS3 restore on your NAS, create a restore job like in the video, and point to the external drive. If I understand, correctly this should work fine. Let me know.
@@MikeFaucher If I remember well, that is what I did and which resulted in a copy of the the backup file and nothing restored.
I will do it again and hope for the best. Thanks for the reply, I report back how it went.
@@edmundzed9870 Good luck. Definitely, the restore program should not copy the backup file.
@@MikeFaucher Hello Mike, I tried again, and it worked....kind of. I could NOT select Original Location or DataVol1 as restore location, only sub directories.
I selected "Public" as restore location and at least it did restore my files but now I cannot move my files to the DataVol1 location and not even access it.
$&^&#**#(*)%()*##$&#()#$(# ! I can use a video how to format my entire NAS and start from scratch, this grap is driving me nuts
@@edmundzed9870 Sorry you are having so many issues. Have you tried reaching out to their tech support? Sometimes takes a couple of rounds, but they have been helpful in the past. I have a few videos on setting up a NAS correctly (IMO), but I do not have one from start to finish. I will add one to my list of upcoming videos.
It’s possible to go back in time or there is a way to remove ransomware from nas storage ?
If you have configured Snapshots you can go back, otherwise you have to remove it. Check out this video th-cam.com/video/1momma30bvo/w-d-xo.html and I would also suggest reaching out to their tech support to help your clean it off.
@@MikeFaucher thank u 🙏