Similar to Samwise in the LOTR movies compared to the books. In the books Sam is suddenly a carrying figure (literally) and in the movies he's a friend to Frodo from the get go
I read that Wybie was added to the movie because the production team thought it would be weird to have Coraline running around talking to herself - makes good sense.
I would have *preferred* to have Coraline going around by herself. I don't like this necessity of adding unnecessary characters. Plus...she already had the cat.She talked to *him* in the book!She didn't NEED Wybie...and that's why he ultimately does nothing relevant to the plot...because he was not supposed to be there from the very beginning!With or without him the plot stays exactly the same.
I didn't really have a preference between the Wybies. Other Wybie was sweet and possibly one of the only genuine people in that world, and Wybie himself genuinely reminded me of close friends at that age, slugs and all
What about the other father? the song it was a warning to coraline and also when he gave coraline one of the ghost childern eyes he said "Sorry im sorry Mother makeing me" (well thats what i heard) also about the song just serch (sorry i got that wrong) up the meaning of it
Check it out now. Although Abitfrank references a bunch of stuff about fairies and other stuff she must have talked about in previous videos. It might be best to watch all of her the other Coraline stuff first.
I'm happy they put Wybie in the movie, he is probably the most normal person there while adults are oblivious or evil and Coraline is negative and mean. Wybie is a good contrast
fun fact they call him "wybie" because its short for "wyborn" or a coraline says "why were you born" this is because he wasn't a character in the book. he was created or "born" for the movie
Seriously, Coraline needed a slap in the face. No hate, I still like her lol but she needed to realize that she was unnecessarily being rude to someone who was just trying to help her.
I mean if you think about it he was lurking around up at the hill watching her for who knows how long, and then he almost runs her over?? Kinda weird to me I'd be mad too.
@@loverboy6149 But after that... he just genuinely tried to help her. He was sorta weird at first, and I'd be uncomfortable a bit. But seriously, he tried so hard to be nice to her after that and she still kept treating him badly.
Wybie is like the cat. I've noticed that particular thing. The fact that he is so close to the house, and knows so much more, means the Other Mother will never be able to replicate him without consequences. Like him being silent, compared to the cat that travels between the worlds. Also, with how real world Wybie gestures like the cat, and how the cat said he and Other Wybie "talk in our own ways of how unlike a mother the other mother is" it's clear they have a connection between the two worlds and whenever Coraline cruelly gets defensive and in denial, the other Wybie gets hurt because Wybie kept his mouth shut. Wybie is the words. Other Wybie is the Actions.
@@someonebla6021 You know how people say actions speak louder than words? Whenever Wybie tried to explain himself, Coraline would tell him off. When Other Wybie pulled her out of the mirror prison, she had her back turned so she couldn't push him away. It shows progression of her listening to the real Wybie, until she literally kicks him out of the house. By then, Other Wybie could do nothing to save her, but remained a reminder. A flag on the pole. (Also, thank you. I enjoy my artistry through multiple things. Writing these thoughts this way comes, oddly natural to me. I also write scripts for my own things sometimes, it just gets harder to put paragraphs like that down.)
Wybie is one of my favorite characters who really deserves more recognition and love. I've always felt that he has some level of anxiety and he suffers from something but I'm not sure what. He is always crouched and hunched over as if he's afraid of something either that or like me he has scoliosis, something Other Wybie doesn't seem to have. It hurts me that his parents named him Wyborne. His parents so obviously hate him and have deserted him, leaving him unloved and feeling, like book Coraline, alone. He has no friends of his own age and has grown up for 12 years without anyone to talk to other than his sassy and needy grandmother and of course the cat which is why he and the cat have a strange deep bond. Also I'd like to clarify it is perfectly normal for a boy to like creepy dead things like bugs and snakes and even rats, especially one who is sheltered and frightened and alone. That's my take on sweet little Wybie, hope it wasn't too long for ya. Remember folks.... Stay spooky.
Hate is a strong wrong. They (his parents) probably didn't hate him but just weren't ready to have kids or didn't want to do they knew they couldn't raise him well
I actually had a hanged back too but when I firsf watched the movie (now I've been working out for a while and it has improved) but back then thta small detail made me strangely relate to wybie xD. Though getting to the point, I always felt like he was nervous too, like he isn't really looking directly at Coraline whole talking to her most of the time as if he doesn't want his expression to give away that he is lying. Couple that with the alarming implications of Coraline moving in when Mrs Lovat elegidly doesn't allow kids to go near the house and that builds a solid case for someone with malicious intend potentially wanting forcing him to lure Coraline in. He gave her the doll too. What could be going on?
Wybie has autistic coding! He has bad posture, stims when he's nervous, avoids eye contact, doesn't like being touches, has trouble with social cues and social situations in general, and also infodumps at some point. As far as I know its not canon but it makes sense and a lot of people headcanon him as autistic
@@theworstdadjoke6518 speaking as a person on the autism spectrum, that does actually make a lot of sense. He also seems to be quite talkative when he finds someone who, seemingly, shares his interests. Or perhaps just in general as "other wybie" had his mouth stitched for 'talking too much' if I remember correctly. Feel free to correct me, it's been a bit since I've seen the movie.
@@noelleholiday61 actually other Wybie can't talk, the whole point was Coraline didn't like how much he talked so the other Wybie was mute. He got his mouth sewed into a smile because he was causing problems for the other mother by showing he was scared or not happy with the situation
I read the book before watching the movie as a kid, and seeing Wybie added to the movie made Middle School me go like "iT'S nOT LiKe tHe BoOk sO MoViE BAD!!!!". Not only is that wrong, but I also had a secret crush on Wybie, so that was also probably me hiding the fact that I really liked him.
I just love how both the book and movie adaptation have their differences but both work so well as unique versions of the tale. It's very rare to see adaptations that can stand on their own like that.
If Wybie didn’t exist Coraline would’ve had to find out about his grandma’s sister a whole different way. Edit: thank you for 1.2k likes! Ive never had so many
What about through miss Spink and forcible? like have them casually mention how coraline should be careful because a child went missing and have the other dismiss it because it happened years ago
While I do really like that thing the book says about the show going on forever and always on the theatre and I feel kinda sad they didn't put that detail in, I think overall the change of making the other world more colorful and fun at first really helps improve on the concept and wybie fits right in there.
Whybie is the cheerful balance in this film of the negatives: all the adults are mean, oblivious or evil, and Coraline is snarky and rude. Of course, she's only mean because she's moved away from her two friends, and her home that she was comfortable in. Her parents are too busy, the neighbors are REALLY strange and can't get her name right, and she's going to be going to a school that wears uniforms. Then there is Whybie whose manners are so foreign to her, she finds him frustrating since he comes off as strange, awkward and kinda creeperish. She's trying to get used to living in a really old house and this guy just keeps popping up. Their first meeting didn't help her image of him either.
@@cryingchild4209 I am aware of that, though I can imagine coming from a school without uniforms to one that requires them might be crushing for a character such as Coraline
@@cryingchild4209 Well I'm kind of assuming a lot, honestly. Coraline strikes me as a girl who likes to stand out at least a little bit. In the movie when she's asking her mother for the colorful gloves, she says "the whole school is going to wear boring grey clothes. No one will have these." Yeah I'm speculating a bit, but that's how I understood the scene and the character. I mean, the girl likely dyed her hair blue to be unique, so I see her as wanting to stand out in a school that's kind of conformist in it's uniform color pallet of two shades of grey, and I speculate her old school didn't have uniforms
So we can assume that Wybies grandmother knew about the other mother, so what if the other mother was trying to get to wybie, so in order to save him his grandmother let Caroline's parents rent in the Pink palace so her target would be a different lod and not her grandson. Just a thought.
I don't think she wanted that, she had the doll in her house where she thought it was safe until Wybie gave it to Coraline. She wanted the doll back, as well. So, she either kept it because she knew what it did or didn't know it changed how it looks so she thought it still looked like her sister so it was something to remember her.
without wybie, you can actually feel coraline's loss of autonomy in her environment even more. SPOILERS It's all there in the novel, where other humans isolated her and only the cat provides company. It becomes worse in the end since the other mother's right hand isn't destroyed; it simply dropped down the well after coraline baited it with the key. Furthermore, there is a chance that the well is another portal, therefore Coraline hasn't truly won.
I also like how we as the audience tend to lean towards the main character, no matter the scenario. So we do almost overlook Wybie like how Coraline does until the end when he becomes a hero and shows that he shouldn't be overlooked or teased. Just a small kinda thing that I like. Coraline doesn't listen to him and take his words seriously and neither did I until this video. So yeah!
You know, when you started the video going "What if Wybie never existed? Actually he was never in the books. Today's sponsor is Warm People", my mind immediately went to "holy shit they're a company that uses people as kindlings, don't they?" ...Fits the aesthetic of the channel.
The movie would feel unnatural and less immersive if it always had Coraline's inner monologue, or her talking to herself. I agree that Wybie allows the writers to have Coraline say what she is thinking out loud for the viewer to hear, which is something the book could do easily as it is normal to always have the main characters thoughts known to the reader.
I remember in a behind the scenes with the creators of the movie, that one reason that Wybie was created was so that Coraline wouldn't be talking to herself. He was that "weird next but kind next neighbor kid" that helped move the story along. Appreciate the Wybie!
It was actually by your Coraline related videos that I learned that Wybie is a whole fudging comfort character for me! I adore him and hearing you talk about all he represents makes me genuinely happy!! (love your content btw) xoxo
Actual fun fact: it’s actually because of his grand mothers sister, she inherited ownership of the pink house when she became an adult and made the rule that children weren’t allowed to live there and shouldn’t go near the house, then she has a grandchild, out of fear of what happened to her sister, he’s named wyborn, because she feared what happened to her sister could happen to her grandson. So think of it as “Why were you born in this sick and twisted place” so she bars him from going to the pink house
I think I like both versions of Wybie about equally, which is to say he’s my favourite and I adore them both! He’s funny and friendly, which is an extremely welcome personality to have present since the rest of the movie gets so dark. He seems like a goofy friend you might want to have in real life. Deserves many hugs, assuming he would like some ^.^
Her voice is so soft and is so calming to listen to! Like hearing her describe a open another part of book books and movies i love is amazing and inspires me to read books in a new and different way💜
wybie is definitely a great addition to the movie. firstly, giving coraline a companion (other than cat, who although important, doesn't show up that often nor is able to help in certain ways as he's only a cat), making the movie more engaging than just having a lone heroine (hard to do so when not just through words). and secondly, how he showed how coraline felt as it'd be difficult to portray that in the movie. ahh love your analysis, great video as always! :D
i love wybie, he’s welcoming to Coraline, helps propel the story, and is just a nice familiar face. I cant see the movie being the same without him, this is one of the instances where I regard the movie and the book in different ways and contexts. The book is creepy and atmospheric, the movie does that same thing but in a different way, it’s a movie. Books create a picture in your mind whereas movies show you it.
I remember when I was little and my cousin convinced me that everyone has other mothers and my little 5 year old self got nightmares for weeks. Coraline is that one movie every child watched and is still scared of today 😂
On your video "How Coralline could've been creepier" you described the parts of the original book "Coralline" and made me want to get the book so badly because I am a huge Coraline fan and I love horror. Unfortunately, I have to finish my lor of the rings series first and then get the Coraline book. I love listening to your creepy "podcasts" (I call it podcasts lol xD don't judge me) and me agreeing with you. I love your channel, keep up the good work! -Ali
There’s lots of people that say the movie gave them nightmares as a kid, but for me the movie made me feel not alone (don’t know how to explain it). The book made me feel like there was a way out (don’t feel comfortable explaining). I most definitely did get nightmares while reading the book, you shouldn’t read it before bed, but when I was done reading it I got the sense that there was a way out.
Coraline never particularly scared me when I was growing up, but the one scene that actually scared me was that scene of Wybie’s clothes flying on the flagpole. It made me uncomfortable and sad, I was really surprised when I found out that Wybie wasn’t in the book, because he’s such a big part of the movie. While I do prefer the movie (which is unusual for me, I normally enjoy the books over the movies.) I do enjoy seeing the differences between the two mediums.
Isn't the window the bottom of the well? I remember that in the movie Wybie said something about that if you fall to the bottom of the well you'll be able to see start in daylight , I'm not sure tho , that would make the key to the other world go back to the other mother
Imma admit something. I like writing stories and my grammar is pretty decent so it's practically a hobby. And in the books, I actually added Wybie to the pages.
Love that I’ve been subbed with notifications on for almost two years and TH-cam still refuses to send me a notification when this awesome channel posts a video
I like to think maybe the other mother had the power to see what the next child would look like, and prepared the doll after consuming the twin, and then, just waited.
I believe she used the rats/mice, it’s been shown they can travel through the little door and other portals. I think that’s also how the doll got delivered to wybie’s grandmothers house as well. I read your question wrong a little- the way she got coralines appearance was by the rats telling the other mother what Coraline looked like
Jesus, I had forgotten just how jawdropping your presentation and editing was. The amount of effort that must go into it has to be insane. Excellent work!
I love the spooky-cute phrase you used in the sponsored by ad. And this was a most interesting look into the character that I didn’t realize was a point in the movie and book.
I love your videos, you go so in depth with this movie and the book as well, and it's nice that you illustrate in the background as well, keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for making another Coraline video abitfrank. You should consider narrating the coraline book you have a very beautiful and expressive voice. I have always thought it was weird that Wybie was added in the movie and not in the book. I enjoy both the book and and movie.
Doubt you’ll see this comment but did you ever play the Coraline Nintendo DS game? It really makes the movie events a heck of a lot more intense when you have to basically act them out yourself! Smacking the other mother’s “sewing needle hand” with your DS lite stylus to knock it down the well, is scary as I’ll get out!
I loved Wybie as well! When Coraline says "Why were you born" it was so needlessly cruel but it also feels like a meta line where the movie is acknowledging his existence in this world as "other" (lol).
Wybie allows Coraline to have someone to bounce off of. It is sad she's so harsh to him, but I do understand her. She is genuinely kind of a brat and he didn't make the best first impression to be fair. The expressions Other Wybie gives just makes him a gold mine of information even lacking a voice.
The police guy actualy says "go ask mom to make you a hot chocolate and give you a hug" after she told him she dissapeared. Like, not even checking out. What an ass
I think you should know that there’s a theory going around that Coraline never really did escape the other world and that the other mom is really just tricking Coraline into thinking she’s in the her normal world to make her think she’s safe
Grandma is also in the book. Because she lost her sister, she doesn't want Vivi to come near the house. Wibby said that usually the grandmother does not bring the house to families with children. Maybe the grandmother wanted to bring a family with a child, you should "sacrifice" him to the other mother, you should protect Wibby. Only I put the red flags that Coraline's mother has: 1. She makes the same movement with her hand as with the other mother. 2. Coraline's father is very controlled by her like in the other world. 3. When Coraline wanted to open the door, she knew exactly where to look and which key to take.
I never understood why Coraline was so mean to Wybie, like, from the get-go. I never saw the creep factor she did, but the only other kid nearby who tried his hardest to make her feel welcome, even after she abuses him. Then again, I never truly connected with Coraline. She always felt too selfish and mean-spirited. I never saw the good nature in her, and the crying for her parents always felt unearned to me, but that’s just my opinion.
So, Wybie is just Coraline's orginal feeling on the book and her hero on the movie. Maybe Wybie was named like that because it means "why were you born" because he isn't in the book but he was born in the movie.
In what way did wybie understand coraline in the slightest? He thought she was crazy. He also didn't listen to her. He stalked her just to patronize her about water witching. Did you see the look he gave when he intentionally called her the wrong name right in the beginning? But she's the angry one so automatically she's the dick, right? It's not as if anger is a natural emotion when we're being treated appallingly or anything. Oh wait...
It was more just that he was the only other child. Even if he didn't listen to her, he didn't wave her off or ignore her completely like her parents, and interacting with him gave her a chance to be a kid while she was in a new place and feeling alone and off-center.
And on the calling her crazy bit........without any context, she *does* sound crazy. Understandable that she's upset about not being taken seriously on what she's going through, but she's talking about talking cats, spying dolls and alternate worlds and meeting his grandmother's missing sister. You'd think she's crazy too.
Lmao a woman on tiktok blocked me because I didn’t agree wybie was a useless character. Yeah Coraline might be more independent in the book and introverted and smart and less bratty but wybie isn’t completely useless and he doesn’t make her really that less independent, she is still very independent in the movie.
Wybie dosent even really take that much away from Coraline's independence and intelligence. Sure he does help her out here a there but ultimately it is still almost entirely her. And even though Coraline dose become enchanted with the Beldame's illusion she does still question it at points even without the concerns of Other Wybie and is still the one to ultimately reject it without anyone telling her explicitly she is in danger. That being said. Anyone that says Wybie dosent serve a purpose to the movie or that dosent enrich are just being book snobs "MoViEe BAD!!!!!"
I don't think they needed Wybie. In the book, the cat is much more of a presence that Coraline talks to so he could have taken up that extra. I watched the movie first and really never felt that Wybie fit, read the book and found out why
his discarded clothes hanging in the air when coraline goes to collect the ghost's eyes is one of the most heart wrenching things
Yeah it is really sad
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I literally felt pain
I think Wybie is an example of how a character created for the movie can improve a story or enrich it.
He makes the who story less scary
@@Ratovx And again he gives Coraline someone to talk to, since again throughout it all she is in this all alone.
Similar to Samwise in the LOTR movies compared to the books. In the books Sam is suddenly a carrying figure (literally) and in the movies he's a friend to Frodo from the get go
@@92JazzQueen And that makes the story less scary
Yes! For example, Harley Quinn first appeared in the animated series, and now is one of the most beloved villainesses
I read that Wybie was added to the movie because the production team thought it would be weird to have Coraline running around talking to herself - makes good sense.
I would have *preferred* to have Coraline going around by herself. I don't like this necessity of adding unnecessary characters. Plus...she already had the cat.She talked to *him* in the book!She didn't NEED Wybie...and that's why he ultimately does nothing relevant to the plot...because he was not supposed to be there from the very beginning!With or without him the plot stays exactly the same.
@101 You basically just verbalized my thoughts lol
@@Nicamon did you watch the video?
I didn't really have a preference between the Wybies. Other Wybie was sweet and possibly one of the only genuine people in that world, and Wybie himself genuinely reminded me of close friends at that age, slugs and all
Other father?!?!
@@raydgreenwald7788 _one of the only_
What about the other father? the song it was a warning to coraline and also when he gave coraline one of the ghost childern eyes he said "Sorry im sorry Mother makeing me" (well thats what i heard) also about the song just serch (sorry i got that wrong) up the meaning of it
@Carla Clark “one of the only”
Check it out now. Although Abitfrank references a bunch of stuff about fairies and other stuff she must have talked about in previous videos. It might be best to watch all of her the other Coraline stuff first.
I'm happy they put Wybie in the movie, he is probably the most normal person there while adults are oblivious or evil and Coraline is negative and mean. Wybie is a good contrast
Agreed
@@tulips3243 Slugzilla?
amazing how he is as he is in a very creepy place of monsters and boomers
@@tulips3243 yes throw people shoes as they just want their stuff back :| , wait no their grandma's stuff
@@tulips3243 Wybie's personality is that he is shy and a little weird, and also good with gadgets. What more do you want?
The fact that the other Wybie literally doesn’t speak but you can SEE how much he likes her
IKR
HE'S SOO CUTE!!
@@HazbinCovenWitch IKR
@@tinytinkergacha7747 lol
Ikr
fun fact they call him "wybie" because its short for "wyborn" or a coraline says "why were you born" this is because he wasn't a character in the book. he was created or "born" for the movie
That or the fact we don’t see his parents and he is a literal bastard.
Nice one
@@hugheast318 bastard? How?
@@Brianna-zi6nn a child born out wedlock and unmarried parents
@@hugheast318 do you even know what that word means???
Every time I saw the part where Coraline says “Why were you born” to Wybie cuz of his name , my heart would crack ..
Seriously, Coraline needed a slap in the face. No hate, I still like her lol but she needed to realize that she was unnecessarily being rude to someone who was just trying to help her.
Seriously, I was just like, silently screaming at her to chill the hell out with that
True, but also can be seen as the movie being self-aware. "Why were you born?" Or is it... "Why are you in this movie?" ;)
I mean if you think about it he was lurking around up at the hill watching her for who knows how long, and then he almost runs her over?? Kinda weird to me I'd be mad too.
@@loverboy6149 But after that... he just genuinely tried to help her. He was sorta weird at first, and I'd be uncomfortable a bit. But seriously, he tried so hard to be nice to her after that and she still kept treating him badly.
Wybie is like the cat. I've noticed that particular thing. The fact that he is so close to the house, and knows so much more, means the Other Mother will never be able to replicate him without consequences. Like him being silent, compared to the cat that travels between the worlds.
Also, with how real world Wybie gestures like the cat, and how the cat said he and Other Wybie "talk in our own ways of how unlike a mother the other mother is" it's clear they have a connection between the two worlds and whenever Coraline cruelly gets defensive and in denial, the other Wybie gets hurt because Wybie kept his mouth shut. Wybie is the words. Other Wybie is the Actions.
Hi I’m a little confused. Could you explain the Wybies a bit more please? (Thank you got writing such a good paragraph)
@@someonebla6021 You know how people say actions speak louder than words? Whenever Wybie tried to explain himself, Coraline would tell him off. When Other Wybie pulled her out of the mirror prison, she had her back turned so she couldn't push him away. It shows progression of her listening to the real Wybie, until she literally kicks him out of the house. By then, Other Wybie could do nothing to save her, but remained a reminder. A flag on the pole. (Also, thank you. I enjoy my artistry through multiple things. Writing these thoughts this way comes, oddly natural to me. I also write scripts for my own things sometimes, it just gets harder to put paragraphs like that down.)
Wow, I've never noticed that before!
So clever
I like this take that the Wybies contrast each other or complete even like 2 sides of the same coin.
Wybie is one of my favorite characters who really deserves more recognition and love. I've always felt that he has some level of anxiety and he suffers from something but I'm not sure what. He is always crouched and hunched over as if he's afraid of something either that or like me he has scoliosis, something Other Wybie doesn't seem to have. It hurts me that his parents named him Wyborne. His parents so obviously hate him and have deserted him, leaving him unloved and feeling, like book Coraline, alone. He has no friends of his own age and has grown up for 12 years without anyone to talk to other than his sassy and needy grandmother and of course the cat which is why he and the cat have a strange deep bond. Also I'd like to clarify it is perfectly normal for a boy to like creepy dead things like bugs and snakes and even rats, especially one who is sheltered and frightened and alone. That's my take on sweet little Wybie, hope it wasn't too long for ya. Remember folks.... Stay spooky.
Hate is a strong wrong. They (his parents) probably didn't hate him but just weren't ready to have kids or didn't want to do they knew they couldn't raise him well
I actually had a hanged back too but when I firsf watched the movie (now I've been working out for a while and it has improved) but back then thta small detail made me strangely relate to wybie xD. Though getting to the point, I always felt like he was nervous too, like he isn't really looking directly at Coraline whole talking to her most of the time as if he doesn't want his expression to give away that he is lying. Couple that with the alarming implications of Coraline moving in when Mrs Lovat elegidly doesn't allow kids to go near the house and that builds a solid case for someone with malicious intend potentially wanting forcing him to lure Coraline in. He gave her the doll too. What could be going on?
Wybie has autistic coding! He has bad posture, stims when he's nervous, avoids eye contact, doesn't like being touches, has trouble with social cues and social situations in general, and also infodumps at some point. As far as I know its not canon but it makes sense and a lot of people headcanon him as autistic
@@theworstdadjoke6518 speaking as a person on the autism spectrum, that does actually make a lot of sense. He also seems to be quite talkative when he finds someone who, seemingly, shares his interests. Or perhaps just in general as "other wybie" had his mouth stitched for 'talking too much' if I remember correctly. Feel free to correct me, it's been a bit since I've seen the movie.
@@noelleholiday61 actually other Wybie can't talk, the whole point was Coraline didn't like how much he talked so the other Wybie was mute. He got his mouth sewed into a smile because he was causing problems for the other mother by showing he was scared or not happy with the situation
Could you do a video on the cats? Because he's the most mysterious character in both the movie and the book
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Hes in the book? I don’t remember him in it but ive not read it for a while i thought the cat and wybie were made for the movie
I’m so happy we’re getting some Wybie appreciation. I love him so much and he’s such an underrated character tbh
I read the book before watching the movie as a kid, and seeing Wybie added to the movie made Middle School me go like "iT'S nOT LiKe tHe BoOk sO MoViE BAD!!!!". Not only is that wrong, but I also had a secret crush on Wybie, so that was also probably me hiding the fact that I really liked him.
A SECRET CRUSH ON CLAY 💀(don't worry it's fine)
@@Basically.lollipop actually the models were made from wood and silicone.. but i get ur point lol
I just love how both the book and movie adaptation have their differences but both work so well as unique versions of the tale. It's very rare to see adaptations that can stand on their own like that.
If Wybie didn’t exist Coraline would’ve had to find out about his grandma’s sister a whole different way.
Edit: thank you for 1.2k likes! Ive never had so many
What about through miss Spink and forcible? like have them casually mention how coraline should be careful because a child went missing and have the other dismiss it because it happened years ago
Except in the book there was no grandmother, iirc
Grandmas sister didn’t exist in the book. There was still 3 ghosts though
@@sagewinchester2386 whattttt? I guess you can tell I never read the book xD
@Autumn Brooks I should read the book
While I do really like that thing the book says about the show going on forever and always on the theatre and I feel kinda sad they didn't put that detail in, I think overall the change of making the other world more colorful and fun at first really helps improve on the concept and wybie fits right in there.
i never noticed the amount of detail in the photo of Wybie's grandma. its such a quick view into the tragedy she had
Whybie is the cheerful balance in this film of the negatives: all the adults are mean, oblivious or evil, and Coraline is snarky and rude. Of course, she's only mean because she's moved away from her two friends, and her home that she was comfortable in. Her parents are too busy, the neighbors are REALLY strange and can't get her name right, and she's going to be going to a school that wears uniforms. Then there is Whybie whose manners are so foreign to her, she finds him frustrating since he comes off as strange, awkward and kinda creeperish. She's trying to get used to living in a really old house and this guy just keeps popping up.
Their first meeting didn't help her image of him either.
Most schools have uniforms tho
@@cryingchild4209 I am aware of that, though I can imagine coming from a school without uniforms to one that requires them might be crushing for a character such as Coraline
@@22Tesla i haven't read it watched it yet but can you explain how (sorry if this seems rude)
@@cryingchild4209 Well I'm kind of assuming a lot, honestly. Coraline strikes me as a girl who likes to stand out at least a little bit. In the movie when she's asking her mother for the colorful gloves, she says "the whole school is going to wear boring grey clothes. No one will have these."
Yeah I'm speculating a bit, but that's how I understood the scene and the character. I mean, the girl likely dyed her hair blue to be unique, so I see her as wanting to stand out in a school that's kind of conformist in it's uniform color pallet of two shades of grey, and I speculate her old school didn't have uniforms
So we can assume that Wybies grandmother knew about the other mother, so what if the other mother was trying to get to wybie, so in order to save him his grandmother let Caroline's parents rent in the Pink palace so her target would be a different lod and not her grandson. Just a thought.
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Wasn't her name Coraline tho?
@@khalishatrisya7125
It is.
@@tulips3243 or that she doesn't want wybie to go near the house when her little sister went missing there
I don't think she wanted that, she had the doll in her house where she thought it was safe until Wybie gave it to Coraline. She wanted the doll back, as well. So, she either kept it because she knew what it did or didn't know it changed how it looks so she thought it still looked like her sister so it was something to remember her.
But hey, that’s just a theory... a fil-
Alright but seriously the thought that wybie doesn’t really exist is really interesting!
@AIDIMARIZ AYALA wow
@AIDIMARIZ AYALA same lmao
Wylie isn't in the coraline book at all, however some other things are changed in the book that make it spookier as well.
without wybie, you can actually feel coraline's loss of autonomy in her environment even more.
SPOILERS
It's all there in the novel, where other humans isolated her and only the cat provides company. It becomes worse in the end since the other mother's right hand isn't destroyed; it simply dropped down the well after coraline baited it with the key. Furthermore, there is a chance that the well is another portal, therefore Coraline hasn't truly won.
this video took "wHy wEre YoU bOrN?" on a whole new level
I also like how we as the audience tend to lean towards the main character, no matter the scenario. So we do almost overlook Wybie like how Coraline does until the end when he becomes a hero and shows that he shouldn't be overlooked or teased. Just a small kinda thing that I like. Coraline doesn't listen to him and take his words seriously and neither did I until this video. So yeah!
You know, when you started the video going "What if Wybie never existed? Actually he was never in the books. Today's sponsor is Warm People", my mind immediately went to "holy shit they're a company that uses people as kindlings, don't they?"
...Fits the aesthetic of the channel.
The movie would feel unnatural and less immersive if it always had Coraline's inner monologue, or her talking to herself. I agree that Wybie allows the writers to have Coraline say what she is thinking out loud for the viewer to hear, which is something the book could do easily as it is normal to always have the main characters thoughts known to the reader.
I remember in a behind the scenes with the creators of the movie, that one reason that Wybie was created was so that Coraline wouldn't be talking to herself. He was that "weird next but kind next neighbor kid" that helped move the story along.
Appreciate the Wybie!
It was actually by your Coraline related videos that I learned that Wybie is a whole fudging comfort character for me! I adore him and hearing you talk about all he represents makes me genuinely happy!! (love your content btw) xoxo
I like when you make vids like these you really bring out things I never thought about on coraline
Actual fun fact: it’s actually because of his grand mothers sister, she inherited ownership of the pink house when she became an adult and made the rule that children weren’t allowed to live there and shouldn’t go near the house, then she has a grandchild, out of fear of what happened to her sister, he’s named wyborn, because she feared what happened to her sister could happen to her grandson. So think of it as “Why were you born in this sick and twisted place” so she bars him from going to the pink house
You know... I always did want to know why he was in the film. Guess now we’ll finally learn why he was born!
for plot convenience.
@@Silver_Sonic_23 After seeing the video that’s pretty accurate.
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SilverSonic 23 True but he’s still a lovable character regardless.
@@alphebettispaghetti6275 Yep. Always liked his character.
Yass a long video about Coraline!!! I'm blessed!! **Grabs coffee and blanket as ur voice is cozy, gets headphones sits and watches yas**
I think I like both versions of Wybie about equally, which is to say he’s my favourite and I adore them both! He’s funny and friendly, which is an extremely welcome personality to have present since the rest of the movie gets so dark. He seems like a goofy friend you might want to have in real life. Deserves many hugs, assuming he would like some ^.^
I loved both wybie's. Each of them has their own charm and personalities.
Typical cartoon adults: the kids are (usually) so much more aware of what's going on than them.
2:45 That's a whole other type of creepy
Her voice is so soft and is so calming to listen to! Like hearing her describe a open another part of book books and movies i love is amazing and inspires me to read books in a new and different way💜
wybie was always my one of my favourite characters. beside the cat. and it really destroyed me when in the movie he had his mouth sowed shut haha
today we're finally answering coraline's question: "why were you born"
The narrator's voice is strangely comforting.
One of my favorite unrated characters.
I like him as he is not some stereotype, so I can part relate to him
wybie is definitely a great addition to the movie. firstly, giving coraline a companion (other than cat, who although important, doesn't show up that often nor is able to help in certain ways as he's only a cat), making the movie more engaging than just having a lone heroine (hard to do so when not just through words). and secondly, how he showed how coraline felt as it'd be difficult to portray that in the movie. ahh love your analysis, great video as always! :D
i love wybie, he’s welcoming to Coraline, helps propel the story, and is just a nice familiar face. I cant see the movie being the same without him, this is one of the instances where I regard the movie and the book in different ways and contexts. The book is creepy and atmospheric, the movie does that same thing but in a different way, it’s a movie. Books create a picture in your mind whereas movies show you it.
without Wybie Coraline would never have that doll that ruined her life
Hey, so, i am crying, thank you for the video, he is calming me down
I thank Wybie is going to grow up to be a superhero
I think both Wybies are amazing. When I was little I used to wish I had a friend like him.
I remember when I was little and my cousin convinced me that everyone has other mothers and my little 5 year old self got nightmares for weeks. Coraline is that one movie every child watched and is still scared of today 😂
On your video "How Coralline could've been creepier" you described the parts of the original book "Coralline" and made me want to get the book so badly because I am a huge Coraline fan and I love horror. Unfortunately, I have to finish my lor of the rings series first and then get the Coraline book. I love listening to your creepy "podcasts" (I call it podcasts lol xD don't judge me) and me agreeing with you. I love your channel, keep up the good work! -Ali
There’s lots of people that say the movie gave them nightmares as a kid, but for me the movie made me feel not alone (don’t know how to explain it). The book made me feel like there was a way out (don’t feel comfortable explaining).
I most definitely did get nightmares while reading the book, you shouldn’t read it before bed, but when I was done reading it I got the sense that there was a way out.
I don't know if enough people say this, but YOUR VOICE IS SO CALMING!! Please never stop making videos!
I used to get annoyed with Wybie when he - like the adults - dismisses or ignores Coraline's worries. But you've made me look at him differently!
Coraline never particularly scared me when I was growing up, but the one scene that actually scared me was that scene of Wybie’s clothes flying on the flagpole.
It made me uncomfortable and sad, I was really surprised when I found out that Wybie wasn’t in the book, because he’s such a big part of the movie.
While I do prefer the movie (which is unusual for me, I normally enjoy the books over the movies.) I do enjoy seeing the differences between the two mediums.
I’ve read the book and graphic novel several times, but I don’t remember her making the pillow parents in anything but the movie
Isn't the window the bottom of the well? I remember that in the movie Wybie said something about that if you fall to the bottom of the well you'll be able to see start in daylight , I'm not sure tho , that would make the key to the other world go back to the other mother
Movie Coraline was kind of a brat. Book Coraline is nice, quick witted, and respectful towards her parents and the other adults.
Your voice is so satisfying to listen to 🥰
That was interesting, love how creative you get with your Coraline videos :D
her voice is so cute omg
Imma admit something. I like writing stories and my grammar is pretty decent so it's practically a hobby. And in the books, I actually added Wybie to the pages.
do you have a google docs or pictures? i would love to read it
I mean Wybie stands for why were you born right? That's probably what the writers were trying to say, why Wybie.
Coraline Book readers: "Who's Wybie?"
Dude I swear to God her voice every time she speaks it’s like ASMR by 10 times better I don’t know is it just meTwT
Love that I’ve been subbed with notifications on for almost two years and TH-cam still refuses to send me a notification when this awesome channel posts a video
Other Wybie is way too pure for what happened to him. All he wanted was to help Coraline, but he died in the process…
Bro I used to project onto wybie so much it’s impressive that I didn’t realize I was a trans guy sooner
fhdkfjdkfh omg i feel u
I'm now curious how did the other mother get that doll from wybie's house to change its appearance
I like to think maybe the other mother had the power to see what the next child would look like, and prepared the doll after consuming the twin, and then, just waited.
I believe she used the rats/mice, it’s been shown they can travel through the little door and other portals. I think that’s also how the doll got delivered to wybie’s grandmothers house as well. I read your question wrong a little- the way she got coralines appearance was by the rats telling the other mother what Coraline looked like
Jesus, I had forgotten just how jawdropping your presentation and editing was. The amount of effort that must go into it has to be insane. Excellent work!
Your Voice HHHHHHOOOOOOWWWLLLLL BEAUTIFUL!
I love the spooky-cute phrase you used in the sponsored by ad. And this was a most interesting look into the character that I didn’t realize was a point in the movie and book.
I love your videos, you go so in depth with this movie and the book as well, and it's nice that you illustrate in the background as well, keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for making another Coraline video abitfrank. You should consider narrating the coraline book you have a very beautiful and expressive voice. I have always thought it was weird that Wybie was added in the movie and not in the book. I enjoy both the book and and movie.
Doubt you’ll see this comment but did you ever play the Coraline Nintendo DS game? It really makes the movie events a heck of a lot more intense when you have to basically act them out yourself! Smacking the other mother’s “sewing needle hand” with your DS lite stylus to knock it down the well, is scary as I’ll get out!
Absolutely loving this content. Have you ever considered analysing lyrics to songs in a similar fashion? I think it could be really interesting!
Coraline should respect wybie more, his the reason she survived i love him sm
The movie legit terrified me as a kid
Omg not your little character still be completely adorable
I loved Wybie as well! When Coraline says "Why were you born" it was so needlessly cruel but it also feels like a meta line where the movie is acknowledging his existence in this world as "other" (lol).
Wybie allows Coraline to have someone to bounce off of. It is sad she's so harsh to him, but I do understand her. She is genuinely kind of a brat and he didn't make the best first impression to be fair. The expressions Other Wybie gives just makes him a gold mine of information even lacking a voice.
it would be devastating for me
TLDR; wybie is the main character period
Yep
Yeah
The police guy actualy says "go ask mom to make you a hot chocolate and give you a hug"
after she told him she dissapeared. Like, not even checking out. What an ass
Can we talk about your lovely soothing calm voice? I looooove your voice.
not my boy Wybie! 😭
No Wybie in Coraline is just like a birthday cake without candles.
You have such a calm and quiet voice
That's what makes the stories better
I think you should know that there’s a theory going around that Coraline never really did escape the other world and that the other mom is really just tricking Coraline into thinking she’s in the her normal world to make her think she’s safe
Grandma is also in the book. Because she lost her sister, she doesn't want Vivi to come near the house. Wibby said that usually the grandmother does not bring the house to families with children. Maybe the grandmother wanted to bring a family with a child, you should "sacrifice" him to the other mother, you should protect Wibby. Only I put the red flags that Coraline's mother has: 1. She makes the same movement with her hand as with the other mother. 2. Coraline's father is very controlled by her like in the other world. 3. When Coraline wanted to open the door, she knew exactly where to look and which key to take.
I never understood why Coraline was so mean to Wybie, like, from the get-go. I never saw the creep factor she did, but the only other kid nearby who tried his hardest to make her feel welcome, even after she abuses him. Then again, I never truly connected with Coraline. She always felt too selfish and mean-spirited. I never saw the good nature in her, and the crying for her parents always felt unearned to me, but that’s just my opinion.
Your voice is so calming, it always makes me look forward to watching your videos
your voice is so calm and relaxing 😩
AHHHH SO EXCITED TO WATCH THE VIDEO!
Your voice is so soothing I don’t even skip the sponsor
What if there was no wybie?
Me: oh, you mean the book?
So, Wybie is just Coraline's orginal feeling on the book and her hero on the movie. Maybe Wybie was named like that because it means "why were you born" because he isn't in the book but he was born in the movie.
I don’t know if anyone else reacted this way but when Coraline created ‘pillow parents’ I cried. It was so sad 😭
In what way did wybie understand coraline in the slightest? He thought she was crazy. He also didn't listen to her. He stalked her just to patronize her about water witching. Did you see the look he gave when he intentionally called her the wrong name right in the beginning? But she's the angry one so automatically she's the dick, right? It's not as if anger is a natural emotion when we're being treated appallingly or anything. Oh wait...
I hate how movie Coraline has to be rescued by Wybie. I don't mind him as a character, but Coraline rescuing herself is a major point in the book.
It was more just that he was the only other child. Even if he didn't listen to her, he didn't wave her off or ignore her completely like her parents, and interacting with him gave her a chance to be a kid while she was in a new place and feeling alone and off-center.
And on the calling her crazy bit........without any context, she *does* sound crazy. Understandable that she's upset about not being taken seriously on what she's going through, but she's talking about talking cats, spying dolls and alternate worlds and meeting his grandmother's missing sister. You'd think she's crazy too.
Lmao a woman on tiktok blocked me because I didn’t agree wybie was a useless character. Yeah Coraline might be more independent in the book and introverted and smart and less bratty but wybie isn’t completely useless and he doesn’t make her really that less independent, she is still very independent in the movie.
Wybie dosent even really take that much away from Coraline's independence and intelligence. Sure he does help her out here a there but ultimately it is still almost entirely her.
And even though Coraline dose become enchanted with the Beldame's illusion she does still question it at points even without the concerns of Other Wybie and is still the one to ultimately reject it without anyone telling her explicitly she is in danger.
That being said. Anyone that says Wybie dosent serve a purpose to the movie or that dosent enrich are just being book snobs "MoViEe BAD!!!!!"
@@rainmabon8232 EXACTLY!!!!
your voice makes me so sleepy but im so invested and im working on a project rn 😭
I didn’t realize just how often Coraline was angry and rude, especially to Wybie, until this video.
I don't think they needed Wybie. In the book, the cat is much more of a presence that Coraline talks to so he could have taken up that extra. I watched the movie first and really never felt that Wybie fit, read the book and found out why
Your voice is Erie to the point that it’s soothing