I'm impressed to the point where this is probably going to cost me money. Going to take a little look. Silky really listened to the bushcraft community.
Good video! I have had the same experience with my Opinel No 12 and Silky Gomboy. I found if I kept the blade heavily oiled with CLP it would remain clean. I would normally keep a small folded rag in a baggy saturated in the CLP and wipe the blade down at the first sign of sticking. kind of a pain but works also it works well to wipe down axes and knives at days end. In the end though..... I really like the Bahco better ha ha.
Just headed in to Midwest Mountaineering here in Minneapolis to get a Silky Pocketboy 170 to harvest fatwood in the BWCA. Your video convinced me at the last minute to buy the Outfitter (which they had) so I did! Thank you!!
Most of tools got fatwood stuck, I rub a paraffin candle on the saw before work the fatwood, it works great in all my tools, table saw is the bigger problem, because it get stick inside. Great video
your bucket list is quite modest wanting a folding saw. others say sky diving, mt. everest and so on. orange silky needed to be completely clean prior to test. also head to head cut time silky/bacho which blade was newer?
A tip I learned from Felix Immler (Swiss army knife guru) was to coat the saw blade with wax. I use a tea candle and it takes just a second to apply. The saw cuts much faster and the blade stays cleaner as well.
I never used a Silky PocketBoy. I wanted to get one from Amazon Summer of 2021, but the large teeth one wasn't available at the time. I did however get the Silky F180 Pro June 2021 and have been happy with it since! I later wanted a folding saw for wide trees, so I got the Silky BigBoy Pro. Been happy with that too! I actually started off with a cheap folding saw from our Canadian Tire store (in Canada). The pin holding on the locking button fell out after a short time, so I got different cheap one from the same store and both those saws were not so great with the cutting when compared to the Silky brand. The cheap ones don't hold up as long either. My Silky saws are still doing well after a year and a half. I even got a second F180 Pro later as a back up if I lost or broke the first one.
I was greatly anticipating the release of the Outback versions, primarily due to the more subdued colors, and got two Silky Gomboy Outback edition saws in January. FYI: I too had the same issues with my older Gomboy getting gummed up Dan. Using the process of elimination, my determination was: If the teeth per inch is the same (hard vs soft wood) and the only difference between the saw blades is the finish, then the darkened coating must prevent resin from clinging to the blade. Just remember that Silky saws cut on the pulling motion and NOT on the pushing motion! Great score finding that pile of fat wood too!!
Thank you so much for your Video. I just found my first Silky. Because the Blade is More durable and the coating. Last Weekend I was sawing a fatwood rootblock… greetings from Stuttgart, Germany
@@ochocobushcraft1742 Hi, cool to hear, That the Saw is still in use. I like the Japanese saws but I don’t Like to the Blades are Bending and Breaking. So I am really happy to find this Version with a thicker Blade. Thanks again!
My Silky F180 Pro can cut through that just fine. But something to think about for that, is the teeth size. These saws do have different teeth sizes for each model. Fine, Small, Medium, Large. Different size teeth are for different purposes.
Interesting video. I'm guessing that the difference is not a "coating" or "finish" on the blade but the actual composition of the blade. Seems like friction from sawing is causing the resin to melt and stick to the regular Silky blade either because it is getting hotter than the other two, or, because it is staying colder than the other two (I'm not a metals expert!) Regardless of the reason, I wonder if you could clean the regular Silky blade by putting it in the fire for a minute. After all, the gunk is just highly flammable fatwood pitch, right? Of course, you'd have to separate the blade from the handle so you didn't accidentally ruin the handle. And, I would also wonder about the risk of warping the blade. Or, maybe you could just use your lighter and light the sticking gunk on fire right on the blade. That probably wouldn't get hot enough to warp the blade but would burn off all the gunk. Might be worth a try!
@@ochocobushcraft1742 Thinking about it some more, instead of burning the pitch "off" of the blade, maybe you could just heat up the blade in the fire just enough to soften the pitch then use a cotton ball to wipe the pitch off. Now you have a cotton ball that has pitch on it instead of vaseline which can be used as a fire starter. Let us know what you find out!
Have you tried a Bahco with the coating worn off? I see a lot of Bushcrafters continue to use them after the coating is worn off, instead of changing the blade.
My Bahco's actually started losing their sharpness before coating wore off. They used to be so inexpensive that I would start using a new one when they started cutting slower. The pocketboy seems to be holding it's edge longer, which is surprising me.
1:44...remedy is boil a pot of water , dip your blade in and it should come off. Expensive... *Bahco laplander* = $75.oo Canadian Amazon *Silky Professional Pocket boy 170 mm (medium 8.5 teeth per inch)* = $100.oo Canadian Cabelas *Silky Gomboy Curve 240 mm (Large 6.5 Teeth per inch)* = $120 Canadian Cabelas
That’s awesome Dan!! Never would have known either!! Will have to look into the Outback. I have the original pocket boy and Bacho. MTwoodsrunner where the heck have you been my friend. Need some more content from you brother!! If your ever in Idaho look me up. Hope you and family are well!! Thanks for sharing Dan!
Hello Dan as in all your other videos… excellent content, thanks for your advice. By the way tell us about the knife you were carrying… BK16? I’m curious about the fire steel that you were carrying… thanks again 😄👍
BK 16 with Knife Connection G10 handles. Sagebrush Customs made the sheath and ferro rod. Ferro rod is a plain rod glued inside a 30 30 shell with a piece of shock cord coming out back. Thank you!!
Thats some seriously nice fatwood lol and you could hear the difference in how they cut. Im glad it worked out for you cuz I was curious lol, they actually make two different size pocketboys the 170 which is the outback you have and the shorter which is 140 maybe I can't exactly remember the number lol but that pro is the smallest one I believe. I may have come up with an idea to increase performance on the regular silky, ill try it out and let you know my findings lol. Im interested to see your opinion of the outback later down the road after you've really put some time on it lol.
For so long I wanted to test my theory. It was so cool to see it pan out! I am excited to put it to some serious use. How is yours holding up? Looking forward to the results of your idea on the regular Silky. Thanks for the inspiration to do this video!
@@ochocobushcraft1742 no problem we all have to stick together lol, so far mine are holding up good and the coating is still there thankfully. I would say your theory is right on and what I'm going to try may help to further prove that. I just wish silky would have came out with that years ago before I bought like 5 saws hahaha 😅
Soak a paper towel in some rubbing alcohol and wrap it around the blade. Let it sit for a few minutes and wipe the blade off with that dame paper towel. It will come right off.
Another theory could be the size of the teeth. Both the black saws have medium teeth size compared to the smaller Silky PocketBoy which has XL teeth.
I'm impressed to the point where this is probably going to cost me money. Going to take a little look. Silky really listened to the bushcraft community.
I have really enjoyed using that saw. Reccomended.
Hello! Greetings from Germany.
I had problems cleaning up my saws and knifes after collecting fatwood.
I used oven spray, and it worked great!
Thank you! Awesome to hear from someone in Germany!
Hot water or olive oil is a good solution.
Good video! I have had the same experience with my Opinel No 12 and Silky Gomboy. I found if I kept the blade heavily oiled with CLP it would remain clean. I would normally keep a small folded rag in a baggy saturated in the CLP and wipe the blade down at the first sign of sticking. kind of a pain but works also it works well to wipe down axes and knives at days end. In the end though..... I really like the Bahco better ha ha.
Just headed in to Midwest Mountaineering here in Minneapolis to get a Silky Pocketboy 170 to harvest fatwood in the BWCA. Your video convinced me at the last minute to buy the Outfitter (which they had) so I did! Thank you!!
Glad it helped!
Good video Dan. Thanks for your review and testing your theory.
Just got a pocketboy outback myself & I love fatwood. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. Mine is still going strong!
Excellent review and great observation on figuring out the problem!
Thank you! Greatly appreciated!
Most of tools got fatwood stuck, I rub a paraffin candle on the saw before work the fatwood, it works great in all my tools, table saw is the bigger problem, because it get stick inside. Great video
Thank you!
Could chapstick be used instead of parafin wax? sounds like a good experiment to try.
your bucket list is quite modest wanting a folding saw. others say sky diving, mt. everest and so on. orange silky needed to be completely clean prior to test. also head to head cut time silky/bacho which blade was newer?
A tip I learned from Felix Immler (Swiss army knife guru) was to coat the saw blade with wax. I use a tea candle and it takes just a second to apply. The saw cuts much faster and the blade stays cleaner as well.
Thanks for sharing this tip.
It was this video that made me switch to the Silky Gomboy Outback. Thanks Dan!
Still using it regularly too!
@@ochocobushcraft1742 yea I used mine on an out of control apple tree in the back yard. Loved it
@@surviveanything4765 nice!
I never used a Silky PocketBoy. I wanted to get one from Amazon Summer of 2021, but the large teeth one wasn't available at the time. I did however get the Silky F180 Pro June 2021 and have been happy with it since! I later wanted a folding saw for wide trees, so I got the Silky BigBoy Pro. Been happy with that too! I actually started off with a cheap folding saw from our Canadian Tire store (in Canada). The pin holding on the locking button fell out after a short time, so I got different cheap one from the same store and both those saws were not so great with the cutting when compared to the Silky brand. The cheap ones don't hold up as long either. My Silky saws are still doing well after a year and a half. I even got a second F180 Pro later as a back up if I lost or broke the first one.
I was greatly anticipating the release of the Outback versions, primarily due to the more subdued colors, and got two Silky Gomboy Outback edition saws in January.
FYI: I too had the same issues with my older Gomboy getting gummed up Dan.
Using the process of elimination, my determination was:
If the teeth per inch is the same (hard vs soft wood) and the only difference between the saw blades is the finish, then the darkened coating must prevent resin from clinging to the blade.
Just remember that Silky saws cut on the pulling motion and NOT on the pushing motion!
Great score finding that pile of fat wood too!!
Very cool to hear someone else make the same discovery about the black coating.
Thank you so much for your Video. I just found my first Silky.
Because the Blade is More durable and the coating. Last Weekend I was sawing a fatwood rootblock… greetings from Stuttgart, Germany
Glad it was a help. I'm still using that same silky in my videos and it's holding up great.
Greetings back from Oregon, USA.
@@ochocobushcraft1742 Hi, cool to hear, That the Saw is still in use. I like the Japanese saws but I don’t Like to the Blades are Bending and Breaking. So I am really happy to find this Version with a thicker Blade.
Thanks again!
My Silky F180 Pro can cut through that just fine. But something to think about for that, is the teeth size. These saws do have different teeth sizes for each model. Fine, Small, Medium, Large. Different size teeth are for different purposes.
Great observation! What geographical regions would this apply to? I live in Oklahoma! Thanks!
I'm only familiar with pacific Northwest forests. But anywhere there is pine forest, there is fatwood.
Pine tar (fatwood) is oil soluble. It really is pretty easy to clean that gunk off.
Interesting video. I'm guessing that the difference is not a "coating" or "finish" on the blade but the actual composition of the blade. Seems like friction from sawing is causing the resin to melt and stick to the regular Silky blade either because it is getting hotter than the other two, or, because it is staying colder than the other two (I'm not a metals expert!) Regardless of the reason, I wonder if you could clean the regular Silky blade by putting it in the fire for a minute. After all, the gunk is just highly flammable fatwood pitch, right? Of course, you'd have to separate the blade from the handle so you didn't accidentally ruin the handle. And, I would also wonder about the risk of warping the blade. Or, maybe you could just use your lighter and light the sticking gunk on fire right on the blade. That probably wouldn't get hot enough to warp the blade but would burn off all the gunk. Might be worth a try!
Good reasoning. I'll give my lighter a try.
@@ochocobushcraft1742 Thinking about it some more, instead of burning the pitch "off" of the blade, maybe you could just heat up the blade in the fire just enough to soften the pitch then use a cotton ball to wipe the pitch off. Now you have a cotton ball that has pitch on it instead of vaseline which can be used as a fire starter. Let us know what you find out!
Idk if it would work, but very nice idea.
Maybe blade is dull? Or the curved blade digs in more?
Have you tried a Bahco with the coating worn off?
I see a lot of Bushcrafters continue to use them after the coating is worn off, instead of changing the blade.
My Bahco's actually started losing their sharpness before coating wore off. They used to be so inexpensive that I would start using a new one when they started cutting slower. The pocketboy seems to be holding it's edge longer, which is surprising me.
Hi!
Silky recommends cleaning with olive oil, which removes resin. Have you tried it? I did and it works...
Wd40 isn't ok for Cleaning resin!
Regards from Slovenia!
Didn’t even occur to me, thanks for the heads up!
Thank you for checking out the video!
1:44...remedy is boil a pot of water , dip your blade in and it should come off.
Expensive...
*Bahco laplander* = $75.oo Canadian Amazon
*Silky Professional Pocket boy 170 mm (medium 8.5 teeth per inch)* = $100.oo Canadian Cabelas
*Silky Gomboy Curve 240 mm (Large 6.5 Teeth per inch)* = $120 Canadian Cabelas
I wonder if you can put a PATINA on the Silkie and if that would make a difference?
Good question. I know a patina helps on a knife, so my guess is it would help on the saw, if it would take a patina.
Hot water or olive oil is a good solution for the resin on the saw blade!
Fantastic! Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Excellent Demo Dan!...whoda thunk it?...dang, and i just purchased a Gomboy standard...where were you a week ago amigo?...LOL...woods
Lol! Yep, I was in the woods. If you use your Gomboy on fatwood, let me know how it performs.
Thank you!
Maybe if you had WD on it as lubricant it would work
Isn’t the other huge difference is the PB Curve has large teeth. The PB Outback has medium?
Teeth size on mine are identical. There are different options available.
Bought one I'm ready to put in the work with it.
Still using mine regularly. Holding up excellent!
That’s awesome Dan!! Never would have known either!! Will have to look into the Outback. I have the original pocket boy and Bacho. MTwoodsrunner where the heck have you been my friend. Need some more content from you brother!! If your ever in Idaho look me up. Hope you and family are well!! Thanks for sharing Dan!
Thank you! And I agree, we need MTwoodsrunner up and running again!
I'd try to avoid hitting those rocks on the follow-through if you want the blade to last. Good video though. Cheers
Try the same cutting with equal clean blades😶
Hello Dan as in all your other videos… excellent content, thanks for your advice.
By the way tell us about the knife you were carrying… BK16? I’m curious about the fire steel that you were carrying… thanks again 😄👍
BK 16 with Knife Connection G10 handles. Sagebrush Customs made the sheath and ferro rod. Ferro rod is a plain rod glued inside a 30 30 shell with a piece of shock cord coming out back.
Thank you!!
Is the price difference between the BACCO and the OUTBACK justified?
Not really. Silky is a little faster, but my trust for long term use still lies with the Bahco.
Thats some seriously nice fatwood lol and you could hear the difference in how they cut. Im glad it worked out for you cuz I was curious lol, they actually make two different size pocketboys the 170 which is the outback you have and the shorter which is 140 maybe I can't exactly remember the number lol but that pro is the smallest one I believe. I may have come up with an idea to increase performance on the regular silky, ill try it out and let you know my findings lol. Im interested to see your opinion of the outback later down the road after you've really put some time on it lol.
For so long I wanted to test my theory. It was so cool to see it pan out!
I am excited to put it to some serious use. How is yours holding up?
Looking forward to the results of your idea on the regular Silky.
Thanks for the inspiration to do this video!
@@ochocobushcraft1742 no problem we all have to stick together lol, so far mine are holding up good and the coating is still there thankfully. I would say your theory is right on and what I'm going to try may help to further prove that. I just wish silky would have came out with that years ago before I bought like 5 saws hahaha 😅
@@alphaomegasurvivalsupply6548 👍
Dammit, now I apparently need a 3rd Silky
LOL! YEP!
Soak a paper towel in some rubbing alcohol and wrap it around the blade. Let it sit for a few minutes and wipe the blade off with that dame paper towel. It will come right off.
That's some awesome fatwood
Thanks! The Ochoco mountains are full of it.
Interesting video! I may just have to try one myself. You can send me a big box full of this fat wood anytime you want!
You two come spend a few days here and we'll get you some!
Bacco13,4 vs Silky 6,3 secomds
Thank you!
i carry a bahco saw
Love the Bahco!