First time viewer. Do we really need cameras on your faces? We only have so much screen to see the actual game, not to mention the center of the screen taken up by the most recent card image. Having mics is enough.
I love that Ben is always down to build decks for everybody, but its getting a tad ridiculous that he always has to build three decks for every stream.
I believed banishing light before someone pointed it out. I was very sad you guys were doing it wrong before the judges told you. I'm glad you live stream your games so you don't miss that stuff
If you ever come to Sweden, and specifically a little nowhere called Ljungby, there's a big model city that might interest you, Graham. It's like one of two attractions only, though, alongside an elk park :/
Just for everybody who thinks Westvale Abbey is illegal in Ben's deck technically it is not because when it flips over the creature doesn't have a Mana cost therefore it doesn't have a black symbol on it therefore it is not a black creature and it is not illegal to play in any deck it is considered colorless
Tass afrass Unfortunately it does and it is. Double faced cards have the colour identity of both faces. For example, Garruk Relentless has the Golgari colour identity as his front his green and back is black. Westvale Abbey is a colourless land on one face and a black creature on the other. This is denoted by a little colour pip to the left of the type line.
55:23 Funny you should say that... deckstats.net/decks/106024/1061677-salmon-fishing-with-the-yennet There's a single spell in the deck with an even converted mana cost (Lightning Greaves, which I look to replace with a Champion's Helm in the near future), the rest of the deck is pure odd-numbered janky goodness. Yes, Void Winnower is in there. Commander is Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign of C18 glory.
I see a lot of people cast Everflowing Chalice with only one or two counters on it after playing other cards. Is there any particular reason they don't just wait a turn and pump it as hard as possible?
This is such a late comment that there was an entire pandemic in front of it - BUT “problema” is always spelled “problema” AND it’s always “el problema.” Spanish has a handful of these weird exceptions, mostly for words whose origins are Greek. When Spanish nouns end in -ma, -pa, or -ta, they might be masculine. Other examples include “el mapa” for map, and any noun ending in -ista, like “el turista” for tourist.
Anyone else start singing the Wellerman sea shanty when Ian said the shusher man? I just started singing: Soon may the susherman come to protect from spells and abilities for 1 One day when the lightning bolt comes we'll take our leave and go~ XD
How does your card recognition for constructed decks word? In the older videos were you explain the setup it is said, that deckedbuilder only works with 4 sets.
When looking at an X card, X is evaluated as 0 unless it's on the stack/being cast. I think that does mean the value of X the spell would be cast for can't make the spell even while void winnower is around.
@@camyron here is the rule For spells with {X} in their mana costs, use the value chosen for X to determine if the spell’s converted mana cost is even or not. For example, your opponent could cast Endless One (with mana cost {X}) with X equal to 5, but not with X equal to 6. (2015-08-25)
I feel so much for Matt and that Slivers Deck. Anytime I played mine, the game became Archenemy super quickly. I wasn't allowed to have anything on the field. Despite not getting a single win with it ever due to the constant persecution against them. Was there an infinite Slivers combo in there. Sure. But the rest of the deck was just Slivers jank, more or less.
It's because slivers are just explosively unstoppable if it does it's thing. It's the perfect example of 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'. One turn they all have +2/+2 and trample and it's not too bad. Then suddenly they have hexproof and indestructible and are impossible to get rid of. So people no longer give slivers an inch. But yeah, I guess it sucks as a sliver player. Then again, they're a sliver player, soo.. :p
Wait hold on there, after that nuke goes off w/ oblivion stone, and kozi comes back those fireballs are on the stack, doesn’t kozi counter spells? He possibly could have stoped the fireballs?
Kozelik, an eldrazi titan, enormous but can’t block a flyer. They should have a rule in which cards that are physically huge have reach unless they would be unable to such as a big wall can’t reach up stop a flyer but a giant can grab a bird out of the air.
Right...cause the Eldrazi aren't already ridiculously powerful enough. I just love the argument that they are fair cause they cost so much to cast. As if most people that play them do so at a normal pace. I don't think I have ever seen anyone get out any of the Titans without some sort of ridiculous mana ramp or cheating it out in some way. Cost is an invalid argument when it comes to EDH where you have access to stupid amounts of ramp and other various ways to get them out way sooner than they would normally.
Where are the Tutors and the Darkest Hour Graham? You need to make the spirits BLACK so you can go infinite. and just EXILE ALL THE CREATURES!!!!! Its ok though if you don't like to do that.
Ah yeah this ineraction is a wierd one. I havent actually watched up to the point you are talking about but i think i know what you are talking about. Cards like banishing light, banisher priest etc do wierd things with commanders. These cards return the exiled card from the zone it went to when exiled. Because going to the command zone is a replacement effect, the banisher priest sees that the zone it sent the card to was the command zone so when it leaves play the commander gets pulled back out of the command zone. However, similar effects that have the effect in 2 seperate clauses, i.e oblivion ring and fiend hunter, specifically state 'return the exiled card to the battlefield' so they check to see if the card is still exiled when they leave play so the commander will not return under these circumstances. Another note is that if the exiled commander gets re cast and subsequently killed again then the banisher priest gets removed, the commander will not return to the battlefield
A commander gets exiled with an enchantment, which is then sent to the command zone. If that enchantment is destroyed it returns from the command zone!? Does anyone have proof of the ruling? It seems very wrong.
It only works on card where the exile effect is written as a single clause, such as banisher priest and banishing light, this is because returning the permanent to the battlefield is not contingent on what zone it is in, it just says ‘return’. However, if the card refers to ‘the exiled card’, such as on cards like oblivion ring and fiend hunter, it will not return a commander from the command zone
This youtube channel is meant for our twitch stream vods. (We used to throw the MTG related ones on here too but we moved that to a new channel). If you're interested in only our MTG content you can find that over at th-cam.com/users/lrrmtg
It would be more compelling if everybody played decks of their own construction, even if it meant increasing the amount of time between each FNPF episode.
Holy fuck what a misplay. Ian should have been dead after the turn emrakul took from him. do what you did originally and have him tapped out and have him attack with his only creature, block it with emrakul. Boom open field, out of the game next turn. back to 3 eldrazi titans on the field.
First time viewer. Do we really need cameras on your faces? We only have so much screen to see the actual game, not to mention the center of the screen taken up by the most recent card image. Having mics is enough.
Wow sorry but wow... I have played magic for just above a year and although magic have TONS of rules the rule about commander going back to the commandzone is basic knowlege for Commander play! If you commander gets anything on it-> remove, pick upp, exile, destroy anything the owner can CHOOSE to put the commander into the commandzone and add commadertax. Basic commander rule. The thing that makes me amazed is that this is far from the first time you play commander on your channel. How did you not know this?
The Friday Night Paper Fight commander games are definitely my favorites.
I'm definitely a Canlander guy. But the casual friendliness and banter is definitely awesome in the Commander games
Would be more enjoyable if they would be better players.
First time viewer. Do we really need cameras on your faces? We only have so much screen to see the actual game, not to mention the center of the screen taken up by the most recent card image. Having mics is enough.
@@vladplasmius2854 I disagree completely, I think being able to see them is part of why I enjoy it let's you see their reactions.
C4742 I actually disagree, because then they become predatory and garam dies instantly.
"Thank you! Quote that. Please. And then use it out of context." - SAVIDAN, Adam. 2019.
I love that Ben is always down to build decks for everybody, but its getting a tad ridiculous that he always has to build three decks for every stream.
I actually love building decks I just never play them
Adam is so unbelievably sexy
I don't think he has a problem with it. He'd probably build the decks anyway
Watch Paul completely predict Ikoria when he talks about how he loves the idea of people building decks entirely out of odd converted mana costs
*cries in Yennett, Cryptic Sovreign*
I love this because I just bought my eldrazi tribal deck. Really looking forward to getting it.
Adam savidan is literally playing my first commander deck. Hearts out to my eldrazi brethren.
Hearts, and spleens, and livers, and all that other viscera that emerge brings out.
I spent most of the intro staring at Adam's arms.
Can't blame you, that gun show is impossible to miss.
Is it slutty that I have crushes on Adam, Ben and Serge? I mean....😍
@@mattjust4450 If it is, then sign me up for the slut parade, I guess.
Matt Just that’s pretty gay.
Goroto Jr. well spotted sir!
“UwU-lamog”
I’m dying laughing rn! I can’t even!
"That's me James Turner, famous Australian TH-camr!" ~Adam Savadan 2019
I believed banishing light before someone pointed it out. I was very sad you guys were doing it wrong before the judges told you. I'm glad you live stream your games so you don't miss that stuff
You guys earned my "like" on this video for 2 reasons: 1) Commander 2) Banjo-Kazooie
EDIT: 3 Reasons, 3) Fifth Element
"UWUlamog"
Am dead
Love when y'all play commander. Ben and Adam together are also hilarious
I still think the best combo is double Ben Adam and Cameron.
Ma boi Ben. Awesome brews and a decent show as always. Love you guys!
Yea Graham, teysa is my favourite commander
That well timed "the sacred texts!"
I'm surprised Ian hasn't shown up on Friday Nights at all. I think he could add to some episodes from time to time.
Starts 5:30
When Adam puts on chapstick
If you ever come to Sweden, and specifically a little nowhere called Ljungby, there's a big model city that might interest you, Graham. It's like one of two attractions only, though, alongside an elk park :/
59:30 Perfection
Ian and Ben's Tapped Out links bring us to the Commander, but not the deck
ADAM
"My deck is worth about 300" Adam plays a grim monolith
You mean the $30 World Champs deck version?
Just for everybody who thinks Westvale Abbey is illegal in Ben's deck technically it is not because when it flips over the creature doesn't have a Mana cost therefore it doesn't have a black symbol on it therefore it is not a black creature and it is not illegal to play in any deck it is considered colorless
Tass afrass Unfortunately it does and it is. Double faced cards have the colour identity of both faces. For example, Garruk Relentless has the Golgari colour identity as his front his green and back is black. Westvale Abbey is a colourless land on one face and a black creature on the other. This is denoted by a little colour pip to the left of the type line.
Freaking love these guys. Keep it up :) love commander/oathbreaker. Only formats I play. I like getting past turn 3 :)
Kiora in her story where she fights Thassa summons leviathan from other planes.
9:44 Gameplay starts
55:23 Funny you should say that...
deckstats.net/decks/106024/1061677-salmon-fishing-with-the-yennet
There's a single spell in the deck with an even converted mana cost (Lightning Greaves, which I look to replace with a Champion's Helm in the near future), the rest of the deck is pure odd-numbered janky goodness. Yes, Void Winnower is in there. Commander is Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign of C18 glory.
You should keep playing EDH! It's super fun to watch
I see a lot of people cast Everflowing Chalice with only one or two counters on it after playing other cards. Is there any particular reason they don't just wait a turn and pump it as hard as possible?
Adam is like a big bear
You could say goreclaw. :p
This is such a late comment that there was an entire pandemic in front of it - BUT “problema” is always spelled “problema” AND it’s always “el problema.”
Spanish has a handful of these weird exceptions, mostly for words whose origins are Greek.
When Spanish nouns end in -ma, -pa, or -ta, they might be masculine. Other examples include “el mapa” for map, and any noun ending in -ista, like “el turista” for tourist.
Yeeto Vegito
25:31 - Graham's face lol
It bugs me that graham missed the fact that teysa can exile the threats they are so worried about.
Benalia isn't on Ravnica, Graham is DQ'd.
Is there a reason why you can’t use gold boarders cards?
Anyone else start singing the Wellerman sea shanty when Ian said the shusher man?
I just started singing:
Soon may the susherman come
to protect from spells and abilities for 1
One day when the lightning bolt comes we'll take our leave and go~
XD
I don't use card kingdom because I live a few hours away from TCGplayer's HQ. (east coast gang)
same it's like free 1 or 2 day shipping
How does your card recognition for constructed decks word? In the older videos were you explain the setup it is said, that deckedbuilder only works with 4 sets.
They put only the cards in their decks in, before they play
at this point im pretty sure ben thinks sylvan library is mirris guile.
It’s funny cuz Ben says man my creature that is a land dies
Whenever you cast an X spell, X isn't considered when you count cmc, if I'm correct. So if a card costs {X}{R}, then the cmc would be 1. I think.
When looking at an X card, X is evaluated as 0 unless it's on the stack/being cast. I think that does mean the value of X the spell would be cast for can't make the spell even while void winnower is around.
@@camyron here is the rule
For spells with {X} in their mana costs, use the value chosen for X to determine if the spell’s converted mana cost is even or not. For example, your opponent could cast Endless One (with mana cost {X}) with X equal to 5, but not with X equal to 6. (2015-08-25)
I feel so much for Matt and that Slivers Deck. Anytime I played mine, the game became Archenemy super quickly. I wasn't allowed to have anything on the field. Despite not getting a single win with it ever due to the constant persecution against them. Was there an infinite Slivers combo in there. Sure. But the rest of the deck was just Slivers jank, more or less.
It's because slivers are just explosively unstoppable if it does it's thing. It's the perfect example of 'give them an inch and they'll take a mile'. One turn they all have +2/+2 and trample and it's not too bad. Then suddenly they have hexproof and indestructible and are impossible to get rid of. So people no longer give slivers an inch.
But yeah, I guess it sucks as a sliver player. Then again, they're a sliver player, soo.. :p
@@TheMrVengeance Alot of the good voltron commanders have the same problem, constant removal.
how do you get the card reader to work? is that done in post?
Wait hold on there, after that nuke goes off w/ oblivion stone, and kozi comes back those fireballs are on the stack, doesn’t kozi counter spells? He possibly could have stoped the fireballs?
the only 14 cmc card ever printed is blinkmoth infusion and that is blue, so no.
Does it need to equal?
exaveron ether way, good point.
Next paper fight you should find a way to run molten vortex deck
I bet Ian the scoundrel has no cats in his cat tribal deck
55:30 predicted gyruda and obosh
Great video.!
Kozelik, an eldrazi titan, enormous but can’t block a flyer. They should have a rule in which cards that are physically huge have reach unless they would be unable to such as a big wall can’t reach up stop a flyer but a giant can grab a bird out of the air.
Maybe he's just too slow to catch the fliers.
Its stupid the titans dont have reach. But they are OP enough i presume. But its really hard to find reach enchantments and shit.
The big green brontisaur dino from Rivals doesnt have reach and it triggers me
Right...cause the Eldrazi aren't already ridiculously powerful enough. I just love the argument that they are fair cause they cost so much to cast. As if most people that play them do so at a normal pace. I don't think I have ever seen anyone get out any of the Titans without some sort of ridiculous mana ramp or cheating it out in some way. Cost is an invalid argument when it comes to EDH where you have access to stupid amounts of ramp and other various ways to get them out way sooner than they would normally.
If you look at Nylea, god of the hunt, she has a Bow, she's aiming....and she don't has Reach.....WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam sounds like Bill Murray from caddy shack.
UwUamog notices your tentacles
Where are the Tutors and the Darkest Hour Graham? You need to make the spirits BLACK so you can go infinite. and just EXILE ALL THE CREATURES!!!!!
Its ok though if you don't like to do that.
Everytime I watch Adam playing Commander, he seems to be playing a deck that the other players have to prioritize dealing with.
That ruling has to be wrong, right? Command Zone isn't exile. So you can't bring it out of exile if it's not technically exiled?
Yeah I'm with you, I've just got to that point I'm almost 100% sure that's wrong.
Ah yeah this ineraction is a wierd one. I havent actually watched up to the point you are talking about but i think i know what you are talking about. Cards like banishing light, banisher priest etc do wierd things with commanders. These cards return the exiled card from the zone it went to when exiled. Because going to the command zone is a replacement effect, the banisher priest sees that the zone it sent the card to was the command zone so when it leaves play the commander gets pulled back out of the command zone. However, similar effects that have the effect in 2 seperate clauses, i.e oblivion ring and fiend hunter, specifically state 'return the exiled card to the battlefield' so they check to see if the card is still exiled when they leave play so the commander will not return under these circumstances. Another note is that if the exiled commander gets re cast and subsequently killed again then the banisher priest gets removed, the commander will not return to the battlefield
@@dancook6114 it work only with banisher priest type card and not fiend hunter type card
@@papierre9287 yeah thats exactly what i said
@@dancook6114 true my bad did not read everything
Is adam from philly? Or is he just representing our new mascot?
I am the sliver player in my play group. It is frustrating
A commander gets exiled with an enchantment, which is then sent to the command zone. If that enchantment is destroyed it returns from the command zone!? Does anyone have proof of the ruling? It seems very wrong.
magicjudge.tumblr.com/post/62990115701/commanders-and-exile
It only works on card where the exile effect is written as a single clause, such as banisher priest and banishing light, this is because returning the permanent to the battlefield is not contingent on what zone it is in, it just says ‘return’. However, if the card refers to ‘the exiled card’, such as on cards like oblivion ring and fiend hunter, it will not return a commander from the command zone
Thanks guys
This ruling seems SUPER wrong, but if it's correct how does that interact with imprint exile effects like Duplicant?
Eldrazi for the win go Uwulamog!!!
eeeeeeennGAGING!
Anyone know where I can find bens deck list I tried the link and it sent me to a page for wort
Adam is correct
1:30 confirmed Ben is a Fall Out Boy stan.
MOAR COMMANDER MOAR PHYREXIA MOAR EDH!
They're all hot. Help.
Found these guys while researching MTG. But looking at their videos, they don't really play MTG much. Sad ...
This youtube channel is meant for our twitch stream vods. (We used to throw the MTG related ones on here too but we moved that to a new channel). If you're interested in only our MTG content you can find that over at th-cam.com/users/lrrmtg
He may not play Westwaly Abbey. It is black on the backside..
Why is Adam so cute?
Because it's adam
Anybody else think Adam sounds like Paul Rudd?
I dont have friends whit magic card 😩
It would be more compelling if everybody played decks of their own construction, even if it meant increasing the amount of time between each FNPF episode.
Crusade is now banned in commander. too bad, it was a nice card for white decks
WAIT... if Ian plays magic then why tf isn’t he on Friday nights??? Smh.
Yeah! I have Mtg professional players I can watch and they talk about wwe? cool! And they watch NJWP? Nice
So much DUUUUUUM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there always be THAT guy who play some Eldrazi...jesus-fuckin-christ, why?!
Holy fuck what a misplay. Ian should have been dead after the turn emrakul took from him. do what you did originally and have him tapped out and have him attack with his only creature, block it with emrakul. Boom open field, out of the game next turn. back to 3 eldrazi titans on the field.
First time viewer. Do we really need cameras on your faces? We only have so much screen to see the actual game, not to mention the center of the screen taken up by the most recent card image. Having mics is enough.
Wow sorry but wow...
I have played magic for just above a year and although magic have TONS of rules the rule about commander going back to the commandzone is basic knowlege for Commander play!
If you commander gets anything on it-> remove, pick upp, exile, destroy anything the owner can CHOOSE to put the commander into the commandzone and add commadertax. Basic commander rule.
The thing that makes me amazed is that this is far from the first time you play commander on your channel. How did you not know this?
1:30 confirmed Ben is a Fall Out Boy stan.