This is the story of my brief encounter with the Dual 1229 Turntable from United Audio. Did I make a mistake? #dual1229 #vintageaudio #audiophile #vintagehifi
Yes, I think it was a big mistake to sell it. I have a Dual 1229 also, that I completely overhauled. I was the original owner, so my Dual was in better cosmetic condition than yours but it was not in working condition at all. I had to remove all the old grease, relube everything, replace steurpimple, refill silicone damper fluid and several other parts, but it works like new and sounds great with a new AT540ml cartridge! I will never sell this Dual, not after all the sweat I put into it.
Glad you still have yours and that you’re enjoying it. I still have some regrets selling mine but hope I can find another one down the road. In the meantime, I’m still very happy with my ARXA.
@@TheAlmostAudiophile ARXA? Did not know that one! Locks greate! By the way: You did a great Job on the Dual! Here in Germany, they are still all over the place. Dual was the standard Recordplayer of the 50s and 60s and 70s. So it is quite easy, finding some on eBay. It also happend to me, to get one from my neighbor. For free.. Right now, I own one 1225, a 1019, 2 x 1219, 1229 and a newer model, the 604. Oh god, I've got to sell some! *g* I wish you luck, finding another one.
Thank you for the reply. I have seen some on eBay. Considering trying to get one that needs a little work for cheaper than one that is refurbished. I think I could fix it now having some experience. If you don’t know much about the ARXA (Acoustic Research model XA) it is worth researching a little. I found one and fixed it up before I found the Dual 1229. It is my main turntable. I wouldn’t have sold the Dual if I hadn’t already had a vintage turntable that I love.
If the gimbal is loose and not moving with the single/multiple lever, it means the the locating pins on the outer gimbal ring that move the gimbal up and down are probably broken. It's a common problem caused by someone forcing the single/multiplay lever on a turntable that hasn't had that assembly degreased and relubed since it was new. The rubber retainer washer gets very hard as well causing great stress on the assembly, and the pins break.Unfortunately, this is a very tough fix. Usually, some method of disabling the whole assembly by locking it down is required. There are some guys 3D printing the part, but it's a real bear to replace it.
I’m pretty sure that both of those parts needed attention. Part of me still wishes that I had taken the time to take it apart further, diagnose better and replace those needed parts but it seemed like more work than I had time to commit to. But I learned a lot and if I get the chance with another Dual I think I would do a more complete restoration after doing some more research.
I had a Dual 1229 for about twenty years from the mid 1970's until the 1990's. I wish I still had it. I had it paired with some nice Dynaco components. I miss those too!
I have a Dual 1229 I got from my Dad. Bought it through PACEX while in the army. Circa 1973. It has a nicer case than the one you have. Works extremely well. (I too was buying stereo gear while overseas - I was in high school & went through 3). Who would have thought I would end up with the single turntable my dad would own for the rest of his life.
01:15 it is pronounced "Stoiarpimpel". you got the "Pimpel" right. "eu" is pronounced like "oi" in 'oi mate' or like the oi that oi-punks keep saying. "er" is pronounced as "ar" with a soft r. kind of like in the word 'car'. you could get away with just using "a" and just dropping the r. "a" pronounced as in 'car' not as in 'had' i've been watching a couple of 1229 vids this afternoon and noticed the common weird pronounciation of the Steuerpimpel. Just like your 1229 you were 90% there ;)
Molte persone si liberano di apparecchi fantastici a causa della mancanza di spazio. Ma con piccoli suggerimenti si può eliminare qualsiasi problema. Basta comprare alcuni trasmettitori/ricevitori bluetooth e collegarli ai connettori di uscita dal giradischi, dal lettore CD, dal sintonizzatore etc...etc...ai connettori degli ingressi dell'amplificatore. Io ho posizionato il giradischi e i dischi in libreria e da 4 metri di distanza ricevo il segnale nell'amplificatore. Mai nessuna perdita di segnale, Il costo dei trasmettitori/ricevitori complessivo di trasporto e consegna può essere 4/5 euro l'uno, comprandoli nei negozi cinesi tipo Wish,Temu etc...etc.... Funzionano perfettamente per tutti gli apparecchi. Saluti da Roma.
The big mistake was starting to use misleading, click bait titles when you only have 57 subs. It puts people off. I expected a juicy tale of fixing woe and instead got a predictable yawn. What I would have liked was to see some of the work you put into it. Despite that massive, and frankly hurtful, betrayal of trust I have subbed. Call me a glutton for punishment. I have recently got into vintage tables, particularly the Technics fully automatic linear tracking tables of the early tables and have discovered the first rule of vintage table buying. It doesn't matter how perfect the seller says it works, there is always something wrong with it. With amps. 50% of sold as faulty amps just need Deoxit on the pots, and the rest take weeks. Good luck with the channel, but mend thy click bait ways, my son.
I genuinely appreciate your feedback. Regarding the Dual, I wish I had documented better the work I put into it. I probably could have found images online to show/demonstrate the work I put into it. I’m sure you can tell I’m pretty new at both TH-cam and vintage audio. I’ve researched quite a bit but have only actually owned several quality components, most of which I’ve featured in videos already. I never want to pretend I’m an expert, just sharing my experiences and enthusiasm and hopefully learning from others along the way. Regarding the Technics. I’ve never played a linear tracking turntable. I know Technics has put out some high quality turntables over the years. Do you find the linear tracking to be better? Does it have drawbacks? Thanks for watching!
I subbed precisely because you don't regard yourself as an expert. I think it will be fun learning along with you. I have not noticed a significant improvement in sound quality with the Technics, but they are of course 40 year old tables. My Clearaudio and MoFi decks beat them by a bit, but both have better cartridges so not a fair fight. What I love is the engineering and simplicity of use. My SL7 is tiny and can play vertical or upside down, and my QL15 allows you to program which tracks to play and in what order. Lots of fun.
No Dual turntable is a total mistake. Some are better or worse, though: I would avoid those with all-plastic housings. Your problem with arm movement was caused by the single/multi selector, specifically the two steel balls and the rubber ring that holds them in. Refer to the service manual for details.
Yeah, I looked into it a little and decided not to tackle it. But if I get the chance with another dual in the future I hope to do a more detailed restoration.
I think most ppl regret selling their vintage tt, always a space problem😂
Very true! Haha!
Yes, I think it was a big mistake to sell it. I have a Dual 1229 also, that I completely overhauled. I was the original owner, so my Dual was in better cosmetic condition than yours but it was not in working condition at all. I had to remove all the old grease, relube everything, replace steurpimple, refill silicone damper fluid and several other parts, but it works like new and sounds great with a new AT540ml cartridge! I will never sell this Dual, not after all the sweat I put into it.
Yes, you did make a big Mistake, selling it! I still got mine, that i bought for 15€ at eBay. It is up and running, and it is a lot of fun!
Glad you still have yours and that you’re enjoying it. I still have some regrets selling mine but hope I can find another one down the road. In the meantime, I’m still very happy with my ARXA.
@@TheAlmostAudiophile ARXA? Did not know that one! Locks greate! By the way: You did a great Job on the Dual! Here in Germany, they are still all over the place. Dual was the standard Recordplayer of the 50s and 60s and 70s. So it is quite easy, finding some on eBay. It also happend to me, to get one from my neighbor. For free.. Right now, I own one 1225, a 1019, 2 x 1219, 1229 and a newer model, the 604. Oh god, I've got to sell some! *g* I wish you luck, finding another one.
Thank you for the reply. I have seen some on eBay. Considering trying to get one that needs a little work for cheaper than one that is refurbished. I think I could fix it now having some experience.
If you don’t know much about the ARXA (Acoustic Research model XA) it is worth researching a little. I found one and fixed it up before I found the Dual 1229. It is my main turntable. I wouldn’t have sold the Dual if I hadn’t already had a vintage turntable that I love.
If the gimbal is loose and not moving with the single/multiple lever, it means the the locating pins on the outer gimbal ring that move the gimbal up and down are probably broken. It's a common problem caused by someone forcing the single/multiplay lever on a turntable that hasn't had that assembly degreased and relubed since it was new. The rubber retainer washer gets very hard as well causing great stress on the assembly, and the pins break.Unfortunately, this is a very tough fix. Usually, some method of disabling the whole assembly by locking it down is required. There are some guys 3D printing the part, but it's a real bear to replace it.
I’m pretty sure that both of those parts needed attention. Part of me still wishes that I had taken the time to take it apart further, diagnose better and replace those needed parts but it seemed like more work than I had time to commit to. But I learned a lot and if I get the chance with another Dual I think I would do a more complete restoration after doing some more research.
I had a Dual 1229 for about twenty years from the mid 1970's until the 1990's. I wish I still had it. I had it paired with some nice Dynaco components. I miss those too!
I bet it sounded great!
the 1229 was my first turntable back in 1973 when I was in the Marines at 29 Palms. Played like a dream
I have a Dual 1229 I got from my Dad. Bought it through PACEX while in the army. Circa 1973. It has a nicer case than the one you have. Works extremely well. (I too was buying stereo gear while overseas - I was in high school & went through 3). Who would have thought I would end up with the single turntable my dad would own for the rest of his life.
Cheers to that! Thanks for sharing! And thanks for watching!
01:15 it is pronounced "Stoiarpimpel". you got the "Pimpel" right. "eu" is pronounced like "oi" in 'oi mate' or like the oi that oi-punks keep saying. "er" is pronounced as "ar" with a soft r. kind of like in the word 'car'. you could get away with just using "a" and just dropping the r. "a" pronounced as in 'car' not as in 'had'
i've been watching a couple of 1229 vids this afternoon and noticed the common weird pronounciation of the Steuerpimpel. Just like your 1229 you were 90% there ;)
Thanks for the comments.
@@TheAlmostAudiophile i just noticed: 'oi' just like 'oy' on the word 'toy'
might be more easy to understand
Molte persone si liberano di apparecchi fantastici a causa della mancanza di spazio. Ma con piccoli suggerimenti si può eliminare qualsiasi problema.
Basta comprare alcuni trasmettitori/ricevitori bluetooth e collegarli ai connettori di uscita dal giradischi, dal lettore CD, dal sintonizzatore etc...etc...ai connettori degli ingressi dell'amplificatore.
Io ho posizionato il giradischi e i dischi in libreria e da 4 metri di distanza ricevo il segnale nell'amplificatore. Mai nessuna perdita di segnale, Il costo dei trasmettitori/ricevitori complessivo di trasporto e consegna può essere 4/5 euro l'uno, comprandoli nei negozi cinesi tipo Wish,Temu etc...etc.... Funzionano perfettamente per tutti gli apparecchi. Saluti da Roma.
Thanks for the comment!
The big mistake was starting to use misleading, click bait titles when you only have 57 subs. It puts people off. I expected a juicy tale of fixing woe and instead got a predictable yawn.
What I would have liked was to see some of the work you put into it. Despite that massive, and frankly hurtful, betrayal of trust I have subbed. Call me a glutton for punishment.
I have recently got into vintage tables, particularly the Technics fully automatic linear tracking tables of the early tables and have discovered the first rule of vintage table buying.
It doesn't matter how perfect the seller says it works, there is always something wrong with it.
With amps. 50% of sold as faulty amps just need Deoxit on the pots, and the rest take weeks.
Good luck with the channel, but mend thy click bait ways, my son.
I genuinely appreciate your feedback. Regarding the Dual, I wish I had documented better the work I put into it. I probably could have found images online to show/demonstrate the work I put into it.
I’m sure you can tell I’m pretty new at both TH-cam and vintage audio. I’ve researched quite a bit but have only actually owned several quality components, most of which I’ve featured in videos already. I never want to pretend I’m an expert, just sharing my experiences and enthusiasm and hopefully learning from others along the way.
Regarding the Technics. I’ve never played a linear tracking turntable. I know Technics has put out some high quality turntables over the years. Do you find the linear tracking to be better? Does it have drawbacks?
Thanks for watching!
I subbed precisely because you don't regard yourself as an expert. I think it will be fun learning along with you.
I have not noticed a significant improvement in sound quality with the Technics, but they are of course 40 year old tables. My Clearaudio and MoFi decks beat them by a bit, but both have better cartridges so not a fair fight. What I love is the engineering and simplicity of use. My SL7 is tiny and can play vertical or upside down, and my QL15 allows you to program which tracks to play and in what order. Lots of fun.
Sounds fascinating! I’ll have to look into those models a little bit.
Funny comment
Yes, you made a big mistake. Most of us would kill for that Dual.
Ugh! I know! But I also know I will be able to find another one and fix it up even better than that one! Cheers!
No Dual turntable is a total mistake.
Some are better or worse, though: I would avoid those with all-plastic housings.
Your problem with arm movement was caused by the single/multi selector,
specifically the two steel balls and the rubber ring that holds them in.
Refer to the service manual for details.
Yeah, I looked into it a little and decided not to tackle it. But if I get the chance with another dual in the future I hope to do a more detailed restoration.