Paul Marsh is probably the most experienced vehicle builder out there. That’s why we entrusted him to prepare our two 4x4’s for our extreme driving series on Discovery Channel. Keep up the great work Paul.
I enjoy how your guys’ style compliment each other. Paul seems to explain things very thoroughly, while Andrew is to-the-point, and a storyteller. Great video! Looking forward to part 2.
Andrew knows his stuff and seems to be a polite conversationalist who is interviewing. He seems to know what it means to not believe that you know it all. The smartest guy in the room is not always the one arguing. This is a not bad comment for a not bad comment.
Good advice all around as per usual! I always say, decided (and be honest with yourself), how long you’re prepared to spend setting up camp after driving for as many hours as needed to get to where you’re going.. factoring in the wife, kids and any hassles along the way... keep it quick and keep it simple! And don’t be stressing the entire drive about the long task ahead of setting up camp for hours in the sun!
IMHO the sleeping bag I use for cold weather is the best I’ve ever used. I purchased it at Sportsmans Warehouse in Oregon, USA. It’s the Elk Hunter, and it’s rated to -35 Fahrenheit. Outside is a type of canvas material in tan or black. The inside is a nice smooth flannel. The zipper is heavy duty brass and it’s made so you can zip two together. It’s 40” wide by 90” long with an extra bit at the top so your pillow rests on the bottom layer of the bag. It’s heavy (17 lbs) so it’s not for backpacking lol. I use it on a cot in my tent as well as inside my Hennessy Hammock. It’s absolutely awesome!
Hello Mr. White! And Mr Marsh I have been a long time subscriber of yours. There is always a good valuable info on your channel. Thank you both for the very useful knowledge about overlanding . However, i think some of the suggestions only apply to places where it is mostly dry. In some climates weather can get rainy or windy within a matter of minutes and that is where pull downs of the rooftop shines. It provides a shelter for you to cook or just sit down without being exposed to the weather. Also a place where you can dry your wet clothes and such. The hassle factor is miniscule when you consider the benefits. I think it is time for you to experience overlanding in EurAsia. Please feel free to contact me if you would like to visit Mongolia, Russia and Kazakhstan!
Andrew, I love your Overland Workshop format! Paul and you make a great team. Very informative! I am definitely going to look at a jet boil as a companion to my double burner. I find getting out of camp in the morning can be very challenging.
Closed cell foam is the key to comfort. I've been experimenting with this for some time. If you have the space, you need to layer foam densities for max comfort.
As someone from Idaho, definitely gonna check out that stove :). I tried figuring out what it was called from another video of yours but couldn't. Super appreciate the awesome advice and gear reviews!
We actually have 2 jet boils minimo plus sumo and we full cook meals on them as they have adjustable heat and we got a small frypan that also goes on jetboil. We had all sorts of cookers before some lasted for just one trip some for few but jet boils we have now for two years and they been for probably close to 50 weekends trips and 2, 6 weeks trips and we still love them for cooking.
Interesting chat. I would like to see a similar discussion on vehicle spares. This would also provide an indication of which bits, experienced drivers think are most likely to fail. Different vehicles will have different priority spares.
Most people get carried away with camping stuff - for the first time camper go away for a weekend and make notes. You can get away with surprising little, and slowly build up what you really need. Remember - weight is the enemy of everything.
Absolutely agree. Anytime I take someone new camping, we eat hotdogs over the fire and oatmeal. It requires nothing more than a bowl, spoon, and stick. Once they realize how little they need, and how much fun they still had, then start buying gear and getting more complicated.
I also do motorcycle camping and it is space, not weight that is the problem. I prefer dense strong items that fold down compact instead of light weight bigger items. Kermit chair, MSR Velo tent, Thermarest mattress etc, none are the lightest but they are durable and fold down small. Plenty of room in the car or motorcycle to even take my Packraft boat.
That's a good point. I wasn't saying get the lightest gear possible, as they said in the video you want it to be durable. But rather don't overload yourself with gear. Buy quality kit, that you actually need, and it will serve you well.
With over 12 years experience living on the road full-time and another few years going out part-time, we still get caught by bad products from time to time. Yes, look at what others are doing, read reviews etc. but the bottom line really is, there is no substitute to first hand experience and even then, like us, you will occasionally get caught out.
I have found that there is no perfect setup for every trip, so I have a lot of camping gear that gets used for different trips. For example if I'm doing a weekend away trip away by myself I take a small, cheap, ground tent. But if I'm going away with my family I take our OzTent RV5, which is a great tent, but its too big and bulky if I am by myself for a night or 2. If I am on a trip where we are driving lots and camping in a different spot each night then I need my setup to be reasonably quick and easy, where as if we are camping in one spot for a week or 2 then my setup might be more elaborate and I might take my big gazebo and bigger table.
I also wanted to mention a cooking system I’m rather fond of. It’s the Bio-lite system. It uses just about anything that burns as fuel i.e. sticks, small bits of wood, broken up pine cones, etc. It has a small battery pack on the side which runs a fan that blows air at 2 speeds into the burn chamber. The fan causes the fuel to burn intensely and the heat produced not only cooks your food (or boil water) but recharges the battery and powers a USB port as well as runs the fan. The system has several accessories available such as a pot to boil water in with a very nice top for pouring that the stove fits inside when storing it. There is a grill available that I haven’t tried so no opinion on that lol. And I forgot to mention that you can get a light designed for use with a laptop and plug it into the USB port to light up what you’re cooking or read by while waiting for your food/water to be done. My son uses it to charge his cellphone while he’s making tea lol. IMHO it’s a great piece of kit, packs up quick and small, uses almost anything you find on the ground for fuel and performs beautifully for not much money ($129 USD).
The cheap korean butane stoves are the best. I've used the jetboil and the rei ones. They will burn your food and use too much fuel. The korean butane stoves work just like your stove at home they are just much smaller and lighter.
i would consider a dual or quad fuel burner something that can handle, lpg, kerosene, propane butane and diesel in any combination you like when not using camp fires as a cooking source.. these days i'd likely ship with a 40-60 litre engel or similar with options of lpg as a cooling source to reduce power consumption.. i tend to build with the option of separate fridge and a freezers for frozen, and day foods... yes some people might say over kill, though I say you be better off of a separate fridge options for cold and frozen foods I would also consider a smaller drink fridge, not really necessary though nice to haveto keep drinks and foods cold.. something you also need to consider how long you are going away.. you might get away with 2 door jobby fridge/freezer for a week or 2 though though for per-long stays in the bush you might need to consider something on a daily, 4-8 hour basis and something in every 10-60 min when you are factoring in 30-60c in the shade type days.. something you may need to consider if or when traveling with a family in tow.. you may need to consider lengthening the cab space and looking at a proper lwb chassis or 6x6 type chassis with extended bed to allow for more storage options for the gear or consider a trailer option as a storage source.. I love the incite of knowledge between the both of you, though andrew stop with the but this and but that, I think in some case you make yourself look like a novice when you interject on somebody that seems to have more knowledge than what you have, I hate to say this Andrew you make yourself out to be a fool and Mr. marsh to be an idiot for not correcting you.. I'm not knocking either of you and would love to sit down and have a beer or 6 with the both of you though for the love of christ let Mr. Marsh have his opinion before you comment over the top of him because you only make yourselves look like the proverbial jack asses everytime you sit down and discuss things because it is like watching a skit of laurel and hardey with the comedy of errors..
Hi It was a nice discussion, My suggestion is that if you add some pictures, that will help a lot And if make another video you bring some camping stuff and compare them, showing weak and strong poins and how to choose
I use an msr stove which can burn white gas, auto gas, diesel and kerosene. Never had a problem in the msr burning gasoline since it has a self cleaning nozzle. I use gas so i do not have to cary extra of two types of fuel, which saves some space.
1) Chairs - IKEA restaurant chairs are comfy, UV proof, no moving parts and indestructible. 2) Fridges - Trail Blazer - custom made in QLD Australia. 3) Torch - You only need to see 5m. 1 head torch and 1 small hand torch is enough. 4) Primus Cookers are the best. I use Primus Omnifuel. MSR is excellent too. 5) NB : Primus gas is Butane and Propane (ignites, flows and burns in colder temps) Here's a secret : The best kit is often heavy, bulky and lasts. I don't go anywhere without my leather, brass, steel, timber, cast iron, canvas and copper kit bag items. This journey some people are on to minimise, miniaturise and reduce to the enth degree every bit of Chinese trinket "kit" is futile. Like the gentleman in the video said "It's not a home away from home, it's camping" - I'd rather have a cast iron plate, cast iron pot and the basics than every bit of the "latest kit you've got to own because the Smith's, Jones', and Brown's have it too". The problem today is that there is a lack of original thought and everyone just copies everyone along else and they mostly all blindly believe what the advertisers and marketers say. 80% of the populace are gullible and stupid. And another thing : The word "Kit". Something only becomes a piece of kit when you're life depends on it otherwise it's just another piece of superfluous gear you probably don't need. The word "Kit" is misused and spread around like confetti at a wedding. The moral of the story is to do your own research and get some experience.
You must have very old Primus equipment. The new Primus stuff is cheap Chinese, of mediocre quality. For example, if it drops below 10°C, the stove doesn't work.
Interesting. I have Swedish made Pri-Mus. I'm quite proud of that actually. I do indeed have Primus gear which is old. My great uncle, Shetlands Larsen used my Primus No 5 Kerosene cooker on many trips across the North Sea in WW2 on board the Arthur. It still works great today. My Primus Omnifuel is current production and made in Estonia, a country near Sweden. It is strong and tough and uses many differeing fuel types although I mainly run it on Primus fuel which is butane and propane which flows, ignites and burns hot down to minus 20c. In any case, you can change fuels and get an Omni-fuel to burn in very cold temps down to minus 40c. I have done it. All you need to do is body-warm the fuel. I've used my primus gear from arctic Norway to Siberian Russia and from Sydney to surfers paradise and it works well. I give you a clue, hint and heads-up - Quality primus is still available. As is MSR which I already mentioned. Each to their own. I advise research free of marketing and experience. And I stand by what I write - good kit is often heavy and bulky but worth it.
Thank you Andrew and Paul for another great episode! Question; how come alcohol/kerosene stoves are almost never mentioned? Not only in this channel - in general. I am buying myself a Coleman 425 because the hazzle-factor seems a lot smaller than some kind of gas.
Is it possible for you to do an episode on entry level, less unknown 4x4 brands, for example the Madindra Thar CRD, which has virtually no local South African review footage. I want to know like many others , how good are these Indian and Chinese brands that are increasingly entering the market.
Can't help but notice that Paul seems to be the most knowledgeable and experienced person on the channel, and Andrew becoming the yeah sayer on these episodes. Does Paul have his own channel? No bad comment meant, just keep up the great work.
Also has a pleasant voice, and speaks with authority (as in confident and knowledgeable). Really deserves his own channel, and I mean that in a positive way.
Andrew directly asks Paul though so he sort of sets him up to seem more knowledgeable. There wouldn't be much point in Andrew inviting Paul to these workshop videos if he was going to do all the talking himself anyway. Andrew already gives out his information and opinions on all his other videos so when Paul is there I think Andrew is right to set it up to focus a bit more on Paul.
Its called interviewing. A good interviewer let's the interviewee speak. As soon as I interject, I get accused of speaking too much. No chance of pleasing everyone. Paul does not have his own channel.
Hello Andrew, I find you videos informative and have consistent practical content. I also use a DSLR, Go Pro and Drone when making my video's. I am looking to start posting on You Tube. Can I ask which editing software you use for your videos please and do you have any tips when shooting videos. Thank you in advance. Peter P.
Great show 👍 What happened to those Australian cork hats seems like you guys should invest in one of those before you purchase any other camping gear... Or are they not cool enough for the show ? 😜 Keep up the good work Cheers
Bushman 40 % DEET in a spray can. You can even run a ring of it around your tent and it'll stop all from entering the invisible wall. Trust me, Bushman 40% is good stuff.
Must be nice when money is no object to have the choice of all the best off the shelf stuff. I find though that fabricating my own solutions is very satisfying, you get something bespoke and it makes the vehicle unique. I loved the idea of your ‘ensuite’ shower so I made one myself - waterproofed box on the roof rack, 12v immersion heater, meat thermometer stuck through the side, compartment for a £15 12v pumped camping shower off eBay, pop up shower tent that has a window opening into the passenger window of the car. Sorted. Sometimes having less money can make one more creative. But nice to see what’s available on the market too - inspires ideas.
Hello Mr. White and Mr. Marsh. I have a question. How much do you overpack provisions in case of breakdowns that may take a day or two to fix? 20%? 40%?
It depends on the trip. For Canning, we packed a box of dried food that would have lasted around 14 days, and an additional 20L of water in a seperate can. With people moving through on an almost daily basis, we were in no danger even if we had had a major breakdown.
Hi Andrew, I’ve just returned from a trip through central Australia & Kakadu in the NT over Nov/Dec which is the start of summer. The flies were horrendously viscious & so persistent it really made it almost unbearable to wander around. I had several different types of repellant sprays & roll-ons (e.g. Aeroguard, Bushmans) but this made absolutely no difference to the flies. Do you have any suggestions for keeping insects/flies away in tropical climates?
Great informative videos, but if I may, some constructive criticism. Visual discussion of actual product or accessories and how they work will be much more useful and effective, for me anyway. I get bored too quickly or easily with "lounge discussions".
Gabriel Neri Faim yes good question my mate has 1 and swears by it.gasoline is easier got than propane and his kettle boils way quicker than mine and it runs on very little fuel.I"m going to buy one myself now.
I have a Coleman 3 burner stove, I’ve found low grade petrol soots up the pin in the feed tube causing the fuel to not vaporise. I now on lighting, warm the tube with a blow torch a little and this seems to sort the issue. Would like to use Coleman’s fuel( whatever it is?) but can’t find it locally. Very good a boiling water quickly and you can get petrol anywhere.
Burns clean, no petrol smell at all. Mine soots up a bit cos it’s probably older than me. I clean its once in a while now and use the blow torch to start and it’s all good.
On the subject of cookers... what about a portable charcoal grill? I have a small charcoal grill I use at home with hardwood lump charcoal and it is great because it is just the two of us. Here is what I have: www.weber.com/US/en/grills/smokey-joe-charcoal-grill
Diana Carroll the best way to avoid flies is to sit next to someone with a higher metabolism and breath slowly. I assign the fly attraction duties to my wife. She is very good at it. Trick is to choose your travel companion carefully.
Can't help thinking this video would have been better if you actually showed examples of the stuff you were talking about.......a picture paints a thousand words!
With your gas, you need to think about what you can re use, you mention you don’t like the bigger gas bottles as they’re bulky and harder to strap down. They might be but they can be used over and over again, the others are use once throw out, completely unacceptable. Use whatever you can reuse (or recycle) and use again
Do your research. I have a classic 9 year old style touring tent that i can put up with no guy ropes and 4 pegs and when i watch videos of latest quick pitch tents being put up by normal people eg not salesman they are all rubbish. Weak aluminium poles, 10 pegs, fly takes 10 mins and flaps everywhere... watch normal people on youtube pitching tents not salesman cause they cut a lot of steps out.
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Paul Marsh is probably the most experienced vehicle builder out there. That’s why we entrusted him to prepare our two 4x4’s for our extreme driving series on Discovery Channel. Keep up the great work Paul.
I enjoy how your guys’ style compliment each other. Paul seems to explain things very thoroughly, while Andrew is to-the-point, and a storyteller.
Great video! Looking forward to part 2.
Andrew knows his stuff and seems to be a polite conversationalist who is interviewing. He seems to know what it means to not believe that you know it all. The smartest guy in the room is not always the one arguing. This is a not bad comment for a not bad comment.
I’d love to see a walk around of Paul’s truck as well. He’s so thoughtful, but his needs are different than yours. I reckon it’d be good watching.
Good advice all around as per usual! I always say, decided (and be honest with yourself), how long you’re prepared to spend setting up camp after driving for as many hours as needed to get to where you’re going.. factoring in the wife, kids and any hassles along the way... keep it quick and keep it simple! And don’t be stressing the entire drive about the long task ahead of setting up camp for hours in the sun!
Bloody great video yet again. I can't get enough of your insight and advise and story telling.
IMHO the sleeping bag I use for cold weather is the best I’ve ever used. I purchased it at Sportsmans Warehouse in Oregon, USA. It’s the
Elk Hunter, and it’s rated to -35 Fahrenheit. Outside is a type of canvas material in tan or black. The inside is a nice smooth flannel. The zipper is heavy duty brass and it’s made so you can zip two together. It’s 40” wide by 90” long with an extra bit at the top so your pillow rests on the bottom layer of the bag. It’s heavy (17 lbs) so it’s not for backpacking lol. I use it on a cot in my tent as well as inside my Hennessy Hammock. It’s absolutely awesome!
Hello Mr. White! And Mr Marsh
I have been a long time subscriber of yours. There is always a good valuable info on your channel. Thank you both for the very useful knowledge about overlanding . However, i think some of the suggestions only apply to places where it is mostly dry. In some climates weather can get rainy or windy within a matter of minutes and that is where pull downs of the rooftop shines. It provides a shelter for you to cook or just sit down without being exposed to the weather. Also a place where you can dry your wet clothes and such. The hassle factor is miniscule when you consider the benefits. I think it is time for you to experience overlanding in EurAsia. Please feel free to contact me if you would like to visit Mongolia, Russia and Kazakhstan!
Point taken. Thank you!
Can I come too?
Paul Barnard All Welcome!
Paul should do some ASMR videos. I could listen to his voice forever
Love these episodes. Very informative and entertaining. Thank you Andrew and Paul.
You guys are fantastic to watch.
Andrew, I love your Overland Workshop format! Paul and you make a great team. Very informative!
I am definitely going to look at a jet boil as a companion to my double burner. I find getting out of camp in the morning can be very challenging.
Closed cell foam is the key to comfort. I've been experimenting with this for some time. If you have the space, you need to layer foam densities for max comfort.
Again....fantastic segment. I love this channel. Best on TH-cam!
As someone from Idaho, definitely gonna check out that stove :).
I tried figuring out what it was called from another video of yours but couldn't.
Super appreciate the awesome advice and gear reviews!
We actually have 2 jet boils minimo plus sumo and we full cook meals on them as they have adjustable heat and we got a small frypan that also goes on jetboil. We had all sorts of cookers before some lasted for just one trip some for few but jet boils we have now for two years and they been for probably close to 50 weekends trips and 2, 6 weeks trips and we still love them for cooking.
Interesting chat. I would like to see a similar discussion on vehicle spares. This would also provide an indication of which bits, experienced drivers think are most likely to fail. Different vehicles will have different priority spares.
Most people get carried away with camping stuff - for the first time camper go away for a weekend and make notes. You can get away with surprising little, and slowly build up what you really need. Remember - weight is the enemy of everything.
Absolutely agree. Anytime I take someone new camping, we eat hotdogs over the fire and oatmeal. It requires nothing more than a bowl, spoon, and stick. Once they realize how little they need, and how much fun they still had, then start buying gear and getting more complicated.
James W absolutely, it's meant to be about getting away from it all. Not bringing it all with.
I also do motorcycle camping and it is space, not weight that is the problem. I prefer dense strong items that fold down compact instead of light weight bigger items. Kermit chair, MSR Velo tent, Thermarest mattress etc, none are the lightest but they are durable and fold down small. Plenty of room in the car or motorcycle to even take my Packraft boat.
That's a good point. I wasn't saying get the lightest gear possible, as they said in the video you want it to be durable. But rather don't overload yourself with gear. Buy quality kit, that you actually need, and it will serve you well.
And bikepacking needs even less!!! All under leg power!!!
With over 12 years experience living on the road full-time and another few years going out part-time, we still get caught by bad products from time to time. Yes, look at what others are doing, read reviews etc. but the bottom line really is, there is no substitute to first hand experience and even then, like us, you will occasionally get caught out.
I have found that there is no perfect setup for every trip, so I have a lot of camping gear that gets used for different trips. For example if I'm doing a weekend away trip away by myself I take a small, cheap, ground tent. But if I'm going away with my family I take our OzTent RV5, which is a great tent, but its too big and bulky if I am by myself for a night or 2.
If I am on a trip where we are driving lots and camping in a different spot each night then I need my setup to be reasonably quick and easy, where as if we are camping in one spot for a week or 2 then my setup might be more elaborate and I might take my big gazebo and bigger table.
Gentleman as you know most of these new gadgets are cheap and break easily. Such junk I swear. This was an awesome video. Way to go gentleman.
Nice ideas lads thanks.small hiking stoves are great now unless you have the whole family to cook for.
I also wanted to mention a cooking system I’m rather fond of. It’s the Bio-lite system. It uses just about anything that burns as fuel i.e. sticks, small bits of wood, broken up pine cones, etc. It has a small battery pack on the side which runs a fan that blows air at 2 speeds into the burn chamber. The fan causes the fuel to burn intensely and the heat produced not only cooks your food (or boil water) but recharges the battery and powers a USB port as well as runs the fan. The system has several accessories available such as a pot to boil water in with a very nice top for pouring that the stove fits inside when storing it. There is a grill available that I haven’t tried so no opinion on that lol. And I forgot to mention that you can get a light designed for use with a laptop and plug it into the USB port to light up what you’re cooking or read by while waiting for your food/water to be done. My son uses it to charge his cellphone while he’s making tea lol. IMHO it’s a great piece of kit, packs up quick and small, uses almost anything you find on the ground for fuel and performs beautifully for not much money ($129 USD).
I like this Video - it`s help me to rethink. That`s very good. Thanks
Andrew, Get your butt back on the trail, no more easy money videos, I want action!!!!! LOL
The cheap korean butane stoves are the best. I've used the jetboil and the rei ones. They will burn your food and use too much fuel. The korean butane stoves work just like your stove at home they are just much smaller and lighter.
Thank you again for your videos, I would say baby wipes, they clean everything including greasy hands after a repair.
i would consider a dual or quad fuel burner something that can handle, lpg, kerosene, propane butane and diesel in any combination you like when not using camp fires as a cooking source..
these days i'd likely ship with a 40-60 litre engel or similar with options of lpg as a cooling source to reduce power consumption..
i tend to build with the option of separate fridge and a freezers for frozen, and day foods...
yes some people might say over kill, though I say you be better off of a separate fridge options for cold and frozen foods I would also consider a smaller drink fridge, not really necessary though nice to haveto keep drinks and foods cold..
something you also need to consider how long you are going away..
you might get away with 2 door jobby fridge/freezer for a week or 2 though though for per-long stays in the bush you might need to consider something on a daily, 4-8 hour basis and something in every 10-60 min
when you are factoring in 30-60c in the shade type days..
something you may need to consider if or when traveling with a family in tow..
you may need to consider lengthening the cab space and looking at a proper lwb chassis or 6x6 type chassis with extended bed to allow for more storage options for the gear or consider a trailer option as a storage source..
I love the incite of knowledge between the both of you, though andrew stop with the but this and but that, I think in some case you make yourself look like a novice when you interject on somebody that seems to have more knowledge than what you have, I hate to say this Andrew you make yourself out to be a fool and Mr. marsh to be an idiot for not correcting you..
I'm not knocking either of you and would love to sit down and have a beer or 6 with the both of you though for the love of christ let Mr. Marsh have his opinion before you comment over the top of him because you only make yourselves look like the proverbial jack asses everytime you sit down and discuss things because it is like watching a skit of laurel and hardey with the comedy of errors..
Hi
It was a nice discussion,
My suggestion is that if you add some pictures, that will help a lot
And if make another video you bring some camping stuff and compare them, showing weak and strong poins and how to choose
Andrew what chairs are you using in this video? As I’m about to by myself a new one .
Thanks
have admired these mystery comfy looking chairs myself
Looks like we won’t ever get an answer. I want to know as well 😬
looking forward to part 2
I camped at -12 C...tip: put your cloths for the next day in the bottom of your sleeping bag ...
Andrew, this is wonderful info. Any thoughts on dual fuel stoves, ie. Coleman fuel/gasoline (aka petrol)?
I use an msr stove which can burn white gas, auto gas, diesel and kerosene. Never had a problem in the msr burning gasoline since it has a self cleaning nozzle. I use gas so i do not have to cary extra of two types of fuel, which saves some space.
I’m a great cook, take me on your next trips please....your taste buds will thank you 😊
1) Chairs - IKEA restaurant chairs are comfy, UV proof, no moving parts and indestructible.
2) Fridges - Trail Blazer - custom made in QLD Australia.
3) Torch - You only need to see 5m. 1 head torch and 1 small hand torch is enough.
4) Primus Cookers are the best. I use Primus Omnifuel. MSR is excellent too.
5) NB : Primus gas is Butane and Propane (ignites, flows and burns in colder temps)
Here's a secret : The best kit is often heavy, bulky and lasts.
I don't go anywhere without my leather, brass, steel, timber, cast iron, canvas and copper kit bag items.
This journey some people are on to minimise, miniaturise and reduce to the enth degree every bit of Chinese trinket "kit" is futile.
Like the gentleman in the video said "It's not a home away from home, it's camping" - I'd rather have a cast iron plate, cast iron pot and the basics than every bit of the "latest kit you've got to own because the Smith's, Jones', and Brown's have it too".
The problem today is that there is a lack of original thought and everyone just copies everyone along else and they mostly all blindly believe what the advertisers and marketers say.
80% of the populace are gullible and stupid.
And another thing : The word "Kit". Something only becomes a piece of kit when you're life depends on it otherwise it's just another piece of superfluous gear you probably don't need. The word "Kit" is misused and spread around like confetti at a wedding.
The moral of the story is to do your own research and get some experience.
You must have very old Primus equipment. The new Primus stuff is cheap Chinese, of mediocre quality. For example, if it drops below 10°C, the stove doesn't work.
Interesting.
I have Swedish made Pri-Mus. I'm quite proud of that actually.
I do indeed have Primus gear which is old. My great uncle, Shetlands Larsen used my Primus No 5 Kerosene cooker on many trips across the North Sea in WW2 on board the Arthur. It still works great today.
My Primus Omnifuel is current production and made in Estonia, a country near Sweden. It is strong and tough and uses many differeing fuel types although I mainly run it on Primus fuel which is butane and propane which flows, ignites and burns hot down to minus 20c.
In any case, you can change fuels and get an Omni-fuel to burn in very cold temps down to minus 40c. I have done it. All you need to do is body-warm the fuel.
I've used my primus gear from arctic Norway to Siberian Russia and from Sydney to surfers paradise and it works well.
I give you a clue, hint and heads-up - Quality primus is still available. As is MSR which I already mentioned.
Each to their own. I advise research free of marketing and experience.
And I stand by what I write - good kit is often heavy and bulky but worth it.
Actually it's pure Brass. LOL
Make part II about REAL overland ACCESSORIES. I mean earrings, necklaces and nice bracelets.
Thank you Andrew and Paul for another great episode!
Question; how come alcohol/kerosene stoves are almost never mentioned?
Not only in this channel - in general.
I am buying myself a Coleman 425 because the hazzle-factor seems a lot smaller than some kind of gas.
What model chair Andrew using and what cover for it ? I want to buy it in Europe...
its a very ordinary Chinese-made camping chair. The brand is Camptech, out of South Africa. I would not recommend it.
Was waiting to see if you'd mention a skottle when you started talking about cooking.
Another great video
Is it possible for you to do an episode on entry level, less unknown 4x4 brands, for example the Madindra Thar CRD, which has virtually no local South African review footage. I want to know like many others , how good are these Indian and Chinese brands that are increasingly entering the market.
Canvas tent? Is this 1900? Take care of a nylon tent and it will last for many years.
I use bubble rap,between my tef pans. Protects cooking PANS
Can't help but notice that Paul seems to be the most knowledgeable and experienced person on the channel, and Andrew becoming the yeah sayer on these episodes. Does Paul have his own channel? No bad comment meant, just keep up the great work.
Also has a pleasant voice, and speaks with authority (as in confident and knowledgeable). Really deserves his own channel, and I mean that in a positive way.
i think the two of them complement each other well and provide different aspects on similar topics
So does Paul have his own channel?
Andrew directly asks Paul though so he sort of sets him up to seem more knowledgeable. There wouldn't be much point in Andrew inviting Paul to these workshop videos if he was going to do all the talking himself anyway. Andrew already gives out his information and opinions on all his other videos so when Paul is there I think Andrew is right to set it up to focus a bit more on Paul.
Its called interviewing. A good interviewer let's the interviewee speak. As soon as I interject, I get accused of speaking too much. No chance of pleasing everyone. Paul does not have his own channel.
So much planning in energy type and storage.
Hello Andrew, I find you videos informative and have consistent practical content. I also use a DSLR, Go Pro and Drone when making my video's. I am looking to start posting on You Tube. Can I ask which editing software you use for your videos please and do you have any tips when shooting videos. Thank you in advance.
Peter P.
what about stir fry? any cooker good enough for that purpose on the go?
Talk to a long distance backpacker about what camping stuff you absolutely need.
Great show 👍
What happened to those Australian cork hats seems like you guys should invest in one of those before you purchase any other camping gear...
Or are they not cool enough for the show ? 😜
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Thing on the back of the truck, for safety.. a fire extinguisher ?
What do you recommend for.... bug repellent? lol
Bushman 40 % DEET in a spray can.
You can even run a ring of it around your tent and it'll stop all from entering the invisible wall. Trust me, Bushman 40% is good stuff.
Must be nice when money is no object to have the choice of all the best off the shelf stuff. I find though that fabricating my own solutions is very satisfying, you get something bespoke and it makes the vehicle unique. I loved the idea of your ‘ensuite’ shower so I made one myself - waterproofed box on the roof rack, 12v immersion heater, meat thermometer stuck through the side, compartment for a £15 12v pumped camping shower off eBay, pop up shower tent that has a window opening into the passenger window of the car. Sorted. Sometimes having less money can make one more creative. But nice to see what’s available on the market too - inspires ideas.
I totally agree, I like to make my own gear where practical.
Hi...Can anyone tell or know which (brand/make) camping CHAIRS Andrew St Pierre White is using ?
Andrew, how are you?
I can not find the video review on the awning
How much should you have to build your car for it first trip know you going to add more after the trip
Has Paul successfully set-up that tent with one toss?
Not even once. But we are hopeful.
Oh I forgot to mention that Bio-lite as two other stoves available that are larger for use by groups and some other accessories.
Happy trails everyone
Is a Travel Buddy oven worth the cost and space. How often do you use it?
Its the best piece of camp cooking kit EVER! I use it all of the time and even look for ways to use it.
@@4xoverland Thanks Andrew. Appreciate it.
An awning can not rollover the vehicle because it is mounted to ground already.
anyone know where i can purchase that collapsing triangle base for cooking? LOVE THAT
You'll find a lot of kit we use here: www.4xoverland.com/the-gear-we-use/
Whats this Arab bed roll? Sounds interesting but I cannot find anything called this on google?
Watch the extended 6x6 Land Crusier review from Dubai.
Can you share a picture of the arab bed roll that you use for sleeping?
There are devices available online to allow you to refill your jetboil etc canisters ,so don't dump them
Hello Mr. White and Mr. Marsh. I have a question. How much do you overpack provisions in case of breakdowns that may take a day or two to fix? 20%? 40%?
It depends on the trip. For Canning, we packed a box of dried food that would have lasted around 14 days, and an additional 20L of water in a seperate can. With people moving through on an almost daily basis, we were in no danger even if we had had a major breakdown.
Hi Andrew, I’ve just returned from a trip through central Australia & Kakadu in the NT over Nov/Dec which is the start of summer. The flies were horrendously viscious & so persistent it really made it almost unbearable to wander around. I had several different types of repellant sprays & roll-ons (e.g. Aeroguard, Bushmans) but this made absolutely no difference to the flies. Do you have any suggestions for keeping insects/flies away in tropical climates?
This is why I am at home telling stories and not travelling right now. I have no solution, and it seems, they are hard to find. Solutions - not flies.
Most grey nomads use nets over their heads.
How widely available are these canisters for the MSR in Southern Africa?
Very common. I bought my MSR in Cape Town.
Thanks, but outside SA? We’re planning to go up to Kenya
Options for toilets please chaps?
A spade.
An overland-truck without room enough for a Washer/Dryer and a Gun-Safe, is a Soccer-Mom SUV.
"Arab bed rolls not really designed for freezing conditions" LOL It's just my "dad Joke" mentality finding that phrase statement funny.
Great informative videos, but if I may, some constructive criticism. Visual discussion of actual product or accessories and how they work will be much more useful and effective, for me anyway. I get bored too quickly or easily with "lounge discussions".
What did you think about those Coleman gasoline stoves?
Gabriel Neri Faim yes good question my mate has 1 and swears by it.gasoline is easier got than propane and his kettle boils way quicker than mine and it runs on very little fuel.I"m going to buy one myself now.
Derrick Murphy and its easyer to find
I have a Coleman 3 burner stove, I’ve found low grade petrol soots up the pin in the feed tube causing the fuel to not vaporise. I now on lighting, warm the tube with a blow torch a little and this seems to sort the issue. Would like to use Coleman’s fuel( whatever it is?) but can’t find it locally. Very good a boiling water quickly and you can get petrol anywhere.
Jamie Skinner does It smell gasoline? Or It burns clean?
Burns clean, no petrol smell at all. Mine soots up a bit cos it’s probably older than me. I clean its once in a while now and use the blow torch to start and it’s all good.
Just wondering, why does one person, attract flying, and others, not as much. It would drive me bonkers
On the subject of cookers... what about a portable charcoal grill? I have a small charcoal grill I use at home with hardwood lump charcoal and it is great because it is just the two of us. Here is what I have: www.weber.com/US/en/grills/smokey-joe-charcoal-grill
Bit worried at 18.05, thankfully no basic instinct!
Jetboil genises base camp check it out
100% agree. Amazing cooker. That and my Gazelle T-4 hub tent I couldn't imagine camping without either one!
Andrew do you use an insect repellant , you’re sat there not a bother and poor Paul flies bugging the life out of him ?
Diana Carroll the best way to avoid flies is to sit next to someone with a higher metabolism and breath slowly. I assign the fly attraction duties to my wife. She is very good at it. Trick is to choose your travel companion carefully.
Can't help thinking this video would have been better if you actually showed examples of the stuff you were talking about.......a picture paints a thousand words!
With your gas, you need to think about what you can re use, you mention you don’t like the bigger gas bottles as they’re bulky and harder to strap down. They might be but they can be used over and over again, the others are use once throw out, completely unacceptable. Use whatever you can reuse (or recycle) and use again
Excellent.
My partner just brought me a swag! WHY ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
First one to comment : )
Was as frustrating watching because of those pesky flies and all the waving and clear irritation you both had to endure.
Do your research. I have a classic 9 year old style touring tent that i can put up with no guy ropes and 4 pegs and when i watch videos of latest quick pitch tents being put up by normal people eg not salesman they are all rubbish. Weak aluminium poles, 10 pegs, fly takes 10 mins and flaps everywhere... watch normal people on youtube pitching tents not salesman cause they cut a lot of steps out.