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Have been so looking forward to this! Paul you are in my prayers. I am one of your first followers when the mike wasn’t the greatest but the content stunning as always. Learnt so much from you. May you and your family be blessed! I pray we meet in this life and if not then in next, inshallah.
Salaam alaikum brother Paul, great video, truly i believe that the Muslim teachers in the UK need to teach this to the Muslim children specially from what we call kinder garden i.e pre K to 6,7,8,9... This should be brought to the States also in order to adapt the Muslim teachers because i don't believe we too are too advanced in it.
they cant if they are super salafis and deem ashaarism as deviant as not ahl sunnah wal jamaa and so on ....THAT IS THE PROBLEM from Muhammad Ibn ABdulwahab and on...... because this ARGUMENTATION to prove Allah is necessary, is Ashaarism/Maturidism PURE and SIMPLE ....... ahlu hadith, than atharism and so on, were always focused on learning the hadith, believe in it, never try to reason the why of things, they viewed the whole philosophy as being deviant or even kufr sometimes..... whereas Asharites (to not mention Muatazila) took what is objective in philosophy, like logic, and used it to their benefit...... all the problem comes from the fact modern neo atharism/ neo salafism has gone one step further claiming asharites which are the majority of ummah scholars from its beginning as deivants..... and so all the argumentation, the use of mind is forbidden
The best answer is Ignore all branches of religious thought . Salafi.Wahabi, Mutazili, Asharite , and all 4 schools of Fiqah hanafi, hambali etc etc Why ? Our beloved Prophet used religion to make the divided society of Arabs people into one . Our God is ONE and we are ONE . Unfortunately for us and fortunately for the enemies of peace. We divide ourself using religion to bits and pieces of 70 or more groups . Weakening ourself , so much so that we cant even defend ourself and we are being killed like ants . And each group has been busy writing books on religion and fiqh , books if stacked they go above the washington monument in height . As is said in Quran each one is happy and thinks itself right. In India the Deobandi do not pray in Baraelwi Masjid and they do not marry each others daughters too . So what are doing with all those books written by each group . When we treat each other as a business shop and do not want to give up the sheep that follow each group . Ban all the groups study Quran be one people . If we cant do that wevot it all upside down . Why upside down . Reason is instead of strengthening we have weakened us . A learned man like Dr Naik who studied comparative religions and showed to the world all religions teach there is ONE GOD , even in Hinduism ,he gets hounded by the Hindu nationalistic goverment and he had to leave his birth place due to persecution . And now same people in India the killers of Mahatma Gandhi ( the Rss, BJP the party of MODI) declared openly for Hindus to arm themself to kill millions of Muslims , there is no one government that kicked down this genocidal pronouncement to kill 2 million MUSLIMS . Why this ? There is no Muslim leader or Community that warns Modi if a 1000, Innocent muslims are killed then an equal number of Hindus will get killed , innocent ones , will lose their life too and Modi and Minions will be responsiblefor the loss of innocent lives on both sides . So my frien focus on One God ONE RELIGION ONE PEOPLE ONE AIM TO SERVE GOD BY SERVING THE PEOPLE MAKING PEOPLES LIFE A BIT BETTER AND easier. Establish what is right . Uphold human rights and human dignity . That is the prime importance . Hadees is good only if it makes common sense . Life of our beloved prophet is not deadhe lives through us if we follow the rules in auran his life was a living Quran We can erect the Nation or Nations wherever we are by our services. Which are sincere, just , compassionate, charitable Thoughtful at every step and Progressive in science and technology . Presence or absence of God read surah kahaf clear answer is available . I and you and 8 billion or so humans did not see who the father is. Similarly we have not seen how the creator created this programmed Universe . There is no program without a programmers . We see the presence of a programmer when we see our GENOME . If only we have some sense to sense it . .
@@786humaira1 WE ARE CALLING TO THAT, AND FOCUSING ON THAT...... problem is, actual neo salafis are the ones who are ruining it all....... its MIAW minhaj....... what do you want me to do? dont you know the actual ruling Umar left to the 5 he chose to be the next caliphate?? "if one is against your mutual will........ kill him" .... why?? because if there is one extremist amongst them .....he can ruin all the ummah if he create a civil war between muslims, and his life is faaar less, than the lives that will be lost............ that's exactly what is happenning now........... the bulk of the ummah is united, even if we differ with shia, we can still tolerate them........... there is only one minhaj that creates refutation, that call everyone else even in the sunni realm "deviants, kafirs, out of the jamaa, and so on"........... its the neo salafis, because they dont wanna follow classical atharism, but the manifestation of modern salafism is in fact nadjdism.......... its not our fault, its their........ and when there is a problem, IT NEED AT LEAST TO BE EXPOSED, the harm they did to the ummah began by the destruction of the khilafa WHICH IS 80% THEIR FAULT, to the mental retardation and the weakness of the whole ummah today which is prey to evil leaders which are pawns to some western powers that doesnt wanna see any new power coming to disturb theirs....... neo salafis are the source of all our actual problems............. one of them is what i mentionned, which an academical fact...... this contingency argument is asharite.........and as along as there are neo salafis that mocks people like Mohammad Hijab, Hamza Tzortzis, and the likes of Hamzal Karamali calling them Salaphilosophers....... there is no way we can use these arguments in unity as an ummah............ they forbid the usage of brain ....belive it or not ......
Not only contingency but also placement of signs and clues in whole creation proves itself the existence of God, as Allah says in Quran We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth” [Fussilat 41:53]
Aoa brother Paul, I think this video was produced at the perfect time given the backlash after the Ali Dawah video and the controversy there. But Jazakallahu kheiran!
@@VandalIO Why in the world should we show respect to someone who is obviously and clearly very disrespectful and blatantly lies and mocks us and our prophet saw?
Very interesting: the shaykh described Islamic philosophy of science as finding relations between contingencies, while knowing them to be contingent on God; whereas "Western science" tends not to notice that the contingences are contingent. It reminded me of Ibn Ata'illah: 'Travel not from creature to creature, otherwise you will be like a donkey at the mill: Roundabout he turns, his goal the same as his departure. Rather, go from creatures to the Creator: “And that the final end is unto thy Lord.” '
In short .. "No matter how hard one studies a painting .. one will never figure out the shoe size of the painter or the reason the painter painted it" ... BUT scientism says "I've studied the painting and conclude that it painted itself, no painter is necessary .. trust me I'm a scientist". cosmically absurd.
@@bengreen171 Really? So, why did Da Vinci paint Mona Lisa? or Van Gogh "The Sun Flowers" and so on. Please, do tell! .. Condition: Just by looking at the painting, assuming you did not know it was by these giant personalities. I've never seen nor heard in history so far, where cans of paint randomly fell to produce anything like these works of art selling for $millions (80's / 90's modern art nonsense aside). Does raise the question of why humans value such works?
@@bengreen171 My bad .. Van Gogh. However, by appealing to AI, you are proving my thesis. Thank you. The need always appeal to a higher intelligence is in-built. Call it AI, but then what designed the AI? Humans do it without thinking, instinctively. Humans intuitively understand that splashes of paint arranged in an intricate manner requires a Will and Choice, to produce a recognizable image, which cannot come about by accident. How more so the structure and design of nature and the cosmos and it's associated "natural" laws?
The thing about atheists is they have double standard. You point them a tall building and ask them who built it? Who designed it? They will say, an Architect, even though he doesn't know who that architect is, what's his name, where he lives, but they could say with absolute certainty that a human (with Architect as the occupation) designed it. If I say that that tall building is just rocks and concrete coincidentally align themselves over long enough period of time built itself they wouldn't believe it. Then you point your fingers to themselves, It's far more complex than any buildings human could ever build, ask them who designed it? They will say, Evolution and natural selection. Then, who orchestrated it? And they answered, well it just happened by itself. And this is how they just contradict themselves. How convenient, that we live in a planet that isn't too big otherwise we'd be crushed by its gravity, that rotates around the sun (a Type-G star, that might still emit energy for billion years to come) with perfect distance so that it doesn't melt us nor freeze us, with atmosphere that protect us from space stuffs, filled with organisms and ecosystems that complements each other. How much coincidences does it takes to convince them that all of these coincidences can't be just coincidences. All of our cells/molecules/atoms that we are using right now to be part our body, is merely "borrowed", and once our time has finished in this world, we will return those "borrowed" stuffs back, down to the earth where the next organism will make use of it. Until the end where everything will eventually go back to the Creator. I think their heart has to be really blind, if they are unable to see signs from Allah. It's everywhere, if only they are willing to open their eyes.
Good stuff; we need to emphasize on the soul (G-D's breath?). Patently we humans are just material IF not because of the existence of the Soul that the Creator G-D endowed us with.
The problem is theists can't give the name of the architect. Hindus will point to their architect and so on. Why didn't the architect just sign his name?
There is an interesting hadith that I think everyone should be aware of: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Satan comes to one of you and says, "Who created so-and-so? 'till he says, 'Who has created your Lord?' So, when he inspires such a question, one should seek refuge with Allah and give up such thoughts." Sahih al-Bukhari 3276 In-book: Book 59, Hadith 85 USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 496 (deprecated numbering scheme) Thank you Shaykh Hamza and Paul for the discussion, I finished it to and from work today.
33:00 onwards - very good explanation, "science being a subset of knowledge, explaining contingent portion of universe/reality", "adding metaphysical clarity ..". I observed that academics are able to grasp this but older generation and old school blind followers/people following regional cultural group/literalists don't care to understand it, and dismissing it as some new apologist innovation . This is due to somewhere down the chain, Asharai/Maturidi kalam was dropped or never introduced.
If you were to look for proof of gods existence according to Islam we should start with the Quran which is a divine miraculous book which we Muslims argue is the word of God, it has been memorised by millions globally which is a miracle in itself, as Allah says in the Quran: "we have made it easy for you to remember it" children have memorised it, blind people have memorised it, people that can't speak Arabic have memorised it, its full of miracles, linguistic miracle, numerical miracles, scientific miracles, one of the miracles being that the sun the moon and the planets orbit, we have came to find out the sun orbits until very recently scientists didn't know, it also tells us to reflect on this creation, I'd start with the Quran, another source being the hadith contains prophecies which no man should know 1400 years ago such as their being 360 joints in the body or knowing that their is a disease in one of the flies wings and that the cure to the disease lies in the other wing and the cure to your food which has been infected is to remove the fly from your food and dip it back in then remove it and throw it, no man should know this 1400 years ago, without technology unless he had communication with the creator.
While I get what you are saying, there's an obvious objection one could raise to your approach, which is that your approach constitutes a circular type of reasoning. You are presenting the Qur'an to a sceptic, for instance, and telling them that; "This is the Word of God, and if we look at what the book has to say, we find evidences for the existence of God". The sceptic will likely dismiss that, since you've assumed (from their perspective) that the book is the Word of God. In other words, you've assumed the existence of God already. After all, how could it be the Word of God, unless God already exists, right? So even though at face value it might seem to be a nice idea that all proofs need to be validated by the Qur'an, it is not a viable position. Sceptics will consider it to be narrow minded (as somatotrophin's comment shows), and it leads to circular reasoning, and circular reasoning is certainly not Quranic. In fact, the Qur'an encourages sound reasoning in general, because it is the only means to know truth from falsehood. Besides, prior to the Qur'an, many people also believed in God, and so there are evidences for God's existence outside of scripture. There are two fundamental ways of proving the Creator's existence, according to Sunni theologians: The first is by arguing based on the need of creation for specification. For example, anything with a size needs to be specified in terms of its size and other characteristics, because there are infinite possibilities for how it is to be. This means that all the different bodies in the cosmos right now need to have been specified. The second way is by arguing based on the need of anything with a beginning to be brought into existence, and that this bringing into existence cannot be from the world itself. The aim in using both ways, is to show that this specification, and bringing into existence, cannot come from the cosmos itself, but from an Almighty Creator. The Kalaam scholars call the first way, "arguing based on possibility" and the second "arguing based on existence after non-existence." These two ways are the fundamental bricks of absolutely all arguments to show that the world has a Creator. This includes those used by Sunnis, including the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah and Ad-Daarimiyy.
@Hamzah Belkadi Logic and common sense is enough to prove Allah’s existence. Atheist are sad people, they know deep down that all of these things can not come by chance. Every time i speak to an atheist, they either run or they accept the truth. -:)
@@somatotrophin1535 You guys, the both of you.. this isn't about winning and losing an online debate, it should be about learning and teaching. I can tell you right now that whatever discussion the two of you are going to have is not going to result in any one of you changing your mind.
كَيْفَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتًا فَأَحْيَاكُمْ ۖ ثُمَّ يُمِيتُكُمْ ثُمَّ يُحْيِيكُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ ﴿٢٨﴾ هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ ﴿٢٩﴾ This is How God proves His own existence!! "How can you refuse to acknowledge God, seeing that you were lifeless and He gave you life and that He will cause you to die and then will bring you again to life, whereupon unto Him you will be brought back? (28) He it is who has created for you all that is on earth, and has applied His design to the heavens and fashioned them into seven heavens; and He alone has full knowledge of everything. (2:29)
Brother Paul many thanks: Let's get to know 4 natural things! 1. God (The Creator) for 2. The creatures (sciences) 3. The Qur'an (explanations) for 4. The 3 above plus (unseen) Dear father Paul, may you seek and research deeply ( Quran: chapter 18: verse 109). This verse is enough for every believer if God wills.
The Lord says in the Qur'an: "And have you seen the water that you drink?__Is it you who brought it down from the clouds, or is it We who bring it down?__if We willed, We could make it bitter, so why are you not grateful?" Al-Waaqia: 68-70.
What's interesting is that if you were to bite an onion your mouth would burn, when we near and onion are eyes burn as a reaction to the onion and we have tears as are eyes burn, but altough the sea is salty when the clouds collect moisture from the sea and tear/rain it's unsalty 🤔 hmm... 🤔😂
Brother Paul, As salam.. By the way, I would love to see this video tiltle like, "Existence of God according to [Name]'s scientific thought experiments" May Allah guide us all.
Hello Paul, you should invite professor Roger Trigg. He is a British philosopher who's famous for his work of deconstructing Logical Positivism which is the philosophy behind the scientism and neo atheism. I read his book Beyond Matter: Why science needs metaphysics it was fantastic, made me understand that what is called Pop science is a fad and Real Science is kidnapped by atheists to appeal to its authority and to make it says things it never claimed, check it out.
everything is dependant on Allah the Almighty...whenever I see a scientific explanation of something for example Bernoulli's principle of flight...the first thing that comes to my mind is "no doubt Allah is holding those birds in place and what Bernoulli explained is his way of holding them in place". we all believe in all the scientific theories like photosynthesis....but as a Muslim, we all know that all these theories are made possible by Allah and it's his way of running the system.
Amazing work, as always. See if you can get Dr. Yasir Qadhi on! I can see you guys getting along really well, especially due to yall's mutual respect and admiration for Ibn Taymiyyah.
How do bees know that hexagonal is the best shape for their hive construction? It's highly unlikely that they would do so by trial and error, the first mistake would be fatal to their very existence before they even managed to find a better solution.
@@B1ackC3t yes, but if evolution is a random process there should be more than trillions of bee species that have gone extinct since they randomly create other possible geometric shape for their hive....and this one happened to randomly create the "fit" hexagonal geometry for their hive?
To the question why are there things rather nothing.., i think because Allah is a Creator, so if there were nothing then Allah would be a creator without creation, and that goes against our belief, it is in contradiction with the Main caracteristic of Allah the creator. Thx for sharing Paul.
33:30 the childs answer would be like that of a person who puts down the final correct answer like a calculator in a mathematical equation in simple terms without expanding or showing the steps to the final answer. Where as hardline materialist/ naturalist on the other hand, would forget the final answer or fail to arrive at the correct final answer, for being to focused or even stuck on some of the steps in between.
May I recommed inviting Dr.Eyad Qunaibi? He has an exteremly underrated youtube channel and does a lot of work debunking atheism, darwinism and scientism.
Asalamo alaikum. People used to believe that science and religion were mutually exclusive, yet the deeper that scientists dig, the more convinced they are of an 'intelligent design' to explain the inexplicable. Stephen Meyer, an American philosopher who did his PhD here at Cambridge uses biology as his platform as evidence of the existence of 'an intelligent being'. Although he comes from a non-Muslim perspective, his videos are truly worth watching and only confirm what is written in the holy Quran.
at 8:03 this person claims everything is being held up by something which he believes is god. how does positing god (a necessary being who requires no explanation as per this person) add any extra explanatory power?
Lets for the sake of argument say that that thing isn't god, something like dark matter ( just for the sake of argument) . If it was the thing that held everything else up, it shouldn't be held up by anything but you'll never be able to explain in a hundred life times how it came to be, some stuff is just beyond us tbh.
@@lazytitan1075 lack of explanation doesn't default to god. imo also infinity is a measure of time, which started as the universe started, so the past is not infinite imo.
You might be interested in bringing in brothers from the thought adventure podcast on TH-cam. They discuss many of these topics in a lot of depth including criticisms given by various atheists
The first argument doesn't follow! He starts off with notion the child's answer that "God did it" has a possibility of being right or wrong, and we ought to have humbleness to consider that possibility because we don't know everything. Ok, so far so good. Then he mentions a paradox that if everything is dependent on something else what is the first thing that everything is dependent on, meaning, although we can't see what's preventing a line of leaning people from falling but we can infer something is preventing the last person in line from falling over. Ok we now know that there is something we don't know about the line (infinite?) or what is at the end (a wall?)... he says it can't be infinity because even infinitely long line of people would collapse. i.e. you would go from infinitely long line of leaning people to infinitely long line of people on the floor. ok we ruled out infinity, as the line can be infinitely long but that's not why it's holding up. BUT it doesn't explain how universe is like the line. The metaphor of leaning people standing in a line is great at explaining that in a system where A is dependent on B to stay in a certain state, and B on C and so on and everyone is dependent, then if states are being maintained then it's not due to infinity. But it doesn't explain how that is relevant to universe. Who is to say universe is "holding up", maybe universe IS falling over but process is so slow that we don't notice it. (First Problem) Then he says that since science depends on things in universe and if origin lies out of universe then that's the limit of science, that's true. But then he conclude therefore child's approach is the truth as it doesn't rely on science. Just because we can't say with 100% certainty that science so far or ever acquired will be 100% correct/sufficient. It's possible it to be right without proof. Just how a child with knowledge has possibility of being right, science with also has possibility of being right. Ie. scientists could guess what is holding up universe from outside of universe (Second Problem) While it's interesting and intellectual discussion I think Muslims should avoid placing too much importance on these "for God" arguments because they are in their infancy and fragile, and are not the source of our belief system. Our belief is that Quran is an unaltered book, Quran was not written by one person but collected as a community, Quran was revealed through Prophet Muhammad, Quran couldn't have been invented by him as he didn't know how to read or write, Quran says it's from God. Prophet didn't invent religion for personal gain. Perhaps existence of Holy Quran is biggest evidence for Islam and argument for God.
@@bengreen171 you're very good at making claims without providing a shred of evidence Ben. You state that Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) knew as much as the average merchant, what is your proof of this? There is mass testimony that he was illiterate. You also mention the linguistic beauty of the Qur'an and resort to an ad hominem attack, implying that OP isn't well read, so therefore he cannot judge which book is linguisticly the best. I bet you cannot read Arabic, let alone understand classical Arabic, therefore leaving you in no position to make claims about the linguistic miracle of the Qur'an. It is interesting you accused OP of making unjustified assumptions, when you yourself have made bogus, sub standard, and erroneous claims yourself.
@@bengreen171 So quran copied the babylonian myth? Well, I have seen the song (epic gilgamesh), but how do u know that it copies? Ah, do u know that there are other great poets during the time of prophet Muhammad, who doesn’t challenge quran poems? Learn classical arabic please, we dont wanna read quran in english to compare to the other poems. English is really simple compared to arab
@@bengreen171 But I would like to ask you, can you point out the mistakes in quran? Please. Thanks Yeah I agree with you, we cant just say quran is true because it says its true. There are many other evidences, u can perhaps compare the old quran manuscripts, to the current quranic text. Lets see if there are any changes
@@bengreen171 I cannot take you seriously. You have made the standard of evidence to suffice you impossible. If everyone that could give testimony is a central figure of the religion (according to you), how could testimony ever be given then? Not to mention that the people who testify to his illiteracy are not "central figures" like you mentioned. you mention that the historal account presented by the Qur'an is inaccurate, well surely then the question is based on what? You are not using the Bible by any chance are you? As for your last statement, about rambling and rabbit holes, I will just pressume that you can't comprehend the fact the book was revealed over a period of 23 years, and that the repetition emphasizes key themes, adding to the beauty of the Qur'an.
It's good to prove God's existence (although it's a shame we have to) but this is not enough to be saved, you must also give your heart and life to Allah and obey the Prophet
Hey Aaron... I'm a Christian believer but I like your comments because I feel it is true that " you must also give your heart and life to Allah". My Allah is God and I believe He sent His only Son to earth to show us God's love. Thanks and peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076 saying God sent his son down to earth and that he is God in a 3 part system and God died by his own creation is kind of weird to me it’s especially odd when you claim Allah
Science is human attempt to understand the world. Some theories are matured and some are still evolving. Some are totally untrue but accepted by some group of scientists based on peer acceptance/reviewed concepts.
Well, assalamu alaikum,I am at the halfway point... but one thought/idea that intrigues me is, We get the dependency arguement. But Could we point out some specific properties or incidents around us that we can start explaining, and go deep enough and show that, there are inexplainable conditions existing at the bottom of the hole?? Could we point some out?? like, from my point, I could argue, the random generation of subatomic particles, the very short lifespan particles, and also the matter-antimatter assymmetry theory are some of such problems. And also while the child in the beginning theasked, why the sky is blue, we go deep enough on how photons are dispersed, we see inexplainable random conditions , yet the sky is blue everywhere... Well, I am a leyman, but in my small brain, it tells me, where statistics is used to explain a scietific regular phenomena, meaning, there is no clearcut law, but we need to explain stuff through observation, could probably be part of such argument. Feels like going deep into a fractal, we keep getting newer and newer looks into it, and we are sure that something solid unit is at the end, but we can't just see that... yet we know it's there, and we don't come into term that we are never there... we are just discovering newer and newer layer and getting prouder and prouder, and only ALLAH know, how deep the rabbithole goes... How does the world works then?? Instead of getting perfect explanations, we get only workable explanations, like, we can never calculated the last digit of pi, but we are working with 3.14159 quite well, this much is necessary, but not the end, we can't get that deep. We are limited.
Allah SWT told our prophet pbuh not to be concerned about the disbelievers but simply convey His messages. Brother we don't have to prove anything to anyone.Whoever believes for their own good and whoever rejects for their punishment for we have many ayat about the Ashabul Mash'amah and we know that Allah SWT will fill Jahannam with most of the humanity and jinns. Remember Allah SWT shuts their BASEERAH because of their excessive cynicism.So let them entertain themselves for a while until the Day where their eyes will stare in horror.
at 7:40, the speaker's thought experiment of everything being held up by something pre-supposes a god. he assumes that god exists and thus everyone is still standing and not on the ground. he hasn't provided any proof to show that everyone standing definitely proves god. or at least thats how i understand it.
*Question:* What is the evidence for the existence of God? *Answer:* The evidence is all around you. The presence of the creator can be seen through the presence of the creation. Every object we see on earth, under the water, below the ground, above the land, and up in the sky is a designed system consisted of components that provide a set of function working together on the grid to achieve a purpose. Both nature where animals live and society where people live are revolving around that. Everything is highly dependant on something else. And everything from the most minuscule to the most enormous in scale is revolving around design, function, and purpose. The fact that every object has a structure, it has components, it is in order, its components provide specific functions, its functions are working in harmony, it has a purpose that wants to be achieved; all of that shows that every object is a design, which means there is a designer. Pretty much self-demonstrated. You want people to demonstrate an object as a design, and yet fail to realize the object itself is a self-demonstrated design. If you see a 10-stories building in front of you, you instantaneously understood that the building must be designed. How come your recognition of the building as a designed object is in an instant? Because the building itself is a self-demonstrated design. You saw it with your own perceptive eyes. The building has many information that indicate itself as a design. It has a structure, it has components, it is in order, its components provide functions, its functions are working in harmony, it has a purpose that wants to be achieved. Hence you understood in an instant that the building is a design, and you don't need anyone to demonstrate it. You understood such a thing cannot come out of randomness. It must be designed. Which means you also understood that this design has a designer. *Keypoint:* A sheer of randomness will only resulting in an abstract, and never will give birth to a design. *The maxim:* The presence of abstract shows the absence of design. The absence of design shows the absence of supporting function. The absence of supporting function means the absence of harmony. The absence of harmony means the presence of chaos. The presence of chaos means the absence of purpose. A chaotic system can never achieve any purpose since order cannot come from chaos. Order is needed so that existing functions on the system can achieve the purpose. Order can only come from design. Chaos is the product of the opposite of design which is an abstract. And an abstract is the product of randomness. A randomness - an abstract - a chaos - functions fail to work together - purpose cannot be achieved A designer - a design - an order - functions successfully work together - purpose can be achieved. *The maxim above is very clear.* If people don't believe in the maxim above then go challenge them to create any system by putting absolutely random things in it and see what the output of that system will be. The output will be nothing. If a design that was born out of a sheer of randomness does occur in nature, then surely we can try to mimic its behaviour. If design and order can come out of abstract and chaos-which is irrational, all you need to do is to simulate it. *The rule for this simulation is simple:* any system must be created simply by putting absolutely random variables/algorithms. You must not purposefully put anything by design at the slightest. See whether any purpose can be achieved or not. *Moreover:* If such a behaviour does occur in the nature, then that behaviour must be repeated all over the place in nature like how we are able to find the golden ratio and a lot of other mathematical pattern all over the place. If they argue that evolution is the example of a sheer of randomness that can give birth to a design, then surely such a behaviour (design and order come out of abstract and chaos) must also repeating in many places in the nature-and even in society. But throughout the years, such a thing has never been found. What that means is evolution didn't start with a sheer of randomness, but rather with design. *What they don't realize is:* evolution is nothing but a mere function out of many functions that are existing on the grid of the system to achieve a purpose which is to sustain life. What that means is evolution is a part of the designed system. People mistakenly thinking a single function of the system as the designer of the system itself which is absurd! Order cannot come from chaos. Existence cannot come from non-existence. Intelligence cannot come from non-intelligence. Life cannot come from non-life. *Moreover #2* If they argue that evolution is not originated from a sheer of randomness but through natural selection, then they should realize that the concept of natural selection itself is a function that must have an origin. Where does it come from? Matter colliding with other matter and such a function randomly popped up? Then surely there must be a gazillion other functions as the result of the collition between matters. How come these functions are not fading away other functions? And how come this natural selection function triumphed over other gazillion other functions? This is what they don't realize. Order and harmony between functions cannot come from randomness, but rather through design. A chaotic system will never achieve any purpose. And life cannot be achieved and sustained through a chaotic system. Which means life can never possibly be achieved through a sheer of randomness. In other word, life can only be achieved through a design. Which means there is an architect behind life itself. *Let us see the reality of the maxim above in our daily life.* The house you are currently living in is an example of a designed system. Everything in there is purposefully put in place to achieve a certain purpose. What is that purpose? To make it a liveable place for human. In other word, to sustain life. The plumbing system, the electrical wiring system, the insulation system, the ventilation system, and other things in your house; all of these are components of the system. Each one of these components will provide a very specific function. These functions are needed so that your house becomes a liveable place. 1. To make your house a liveable place is the purpose. This is what we want to achieve. How do we achieve that? By making sure that the functions needed to achieve that purpose are present 2. How to make sure that the functions that will help us to achieve that purpose are present in your house? By making sure that the plumbing system, the electrical wiring system, the insulation system, the ventilation system, and other components are present. 3. How to make sure that those components are present in your house? It needs to be designed. Those components must be purposefully put in place. Simply by observing those components and what function they provide with our perceptive eyes, it is plausible to determine the intended purpose of the system. Once we realize that these functions you see in the nature are there working together to sustain life, and life itself as the purpose is achieved and present; it all imples that the system must be a designed system. A designed system implies there is an architect who designed the system. Without an architect that architected the entire system (it comes out of randomness); design, function, and purpose wouldn't been found in the nature. Instead, you will find abstract, chaotic, and purposeless. An abstract and chaotic nature cannot sustain life to exist. *Which means the existence of life itself is the proof for the existence of God.* Every single living creature on earth are signs for the existence of God. Their mere existence is the sign for the existence of God. That is very clear. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves. People are challenging for the evidence of God while they themselves neglected the fact that they are currently living in it! *It really comes back to what the quran says:* (Dr. Mustafa Khattab translation) (1) Ḥâ-Mĩm. (2) The revelation of this Book is from Allah-the Almighty, All-Wise. (3) Surely in ˹the creation of˺ the heavens and the earth are signs for the believers. (4) And in your own creation, and whatever living beings He dispersed, are signs for people of sure faith. (5) And ˹in˺ the alternation of the day and the night, the provision sent down from the skies by Allah-reviving the earth after its death-and the shifting of the winds, are signs for people of understanding. (6) These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what message will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations? -Chapter Al-Jathiya, Verse 1-6 *This is a clear evidence for the existence of God. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding himself.* I invite you all who read this writing to embark on your own personal journey for finding the capital T truth. The journey is simple and easy to do. 1. Put down all your biases and presumptions. 2. Use your attentive ears to listen to what the Quran has to say, and keep continue listening until you actually understand the whole picture of what the Quran is saying. Don't make a hasty judgement when you are still at this point. 3. Use your perceptive eyes to observe the universe; in the horizon, in nature, in society, in history, even within yourself and look how evidences that point out to the divinity and truthfulness of the Quran are scattered everywhere. 4. Use your mindful heart to think, ponder, and contemplate the two point above. 5. Make your own decision whether you would embrace it or continue to reject it. *Go ahead and buy a copy of the Quran with its English translation, and simply read.*
Alhamdulillah, one guy I think you should really try to get on is Mathoma he has knowledge on metaphysics and is a theist. I think you would love this videos as well I used to watch him. If not, at least check out his videos 😉
We can explain the reasons for the sun shining back to a fraction of a second after the big bang. Before that, new science, a quantum gravity theory is needed before we can explain anything. Anything is likely to include whether contingency is an issue.
JazakAllah khair brother Paul. The topic is very intend extremely important specially for Muslims. However I am disappointed by the hesitant way of delivery by the guest. I am sure he has the knowledge and expertise but somehow how he is not fluid with his thoughts. He would divert to a different line of reasoning in the middle of a sentence and thus creating confusion. I had to watch 3 times and taking notes in between to get some sense of what is being said but unfortunately I still don’t get a clear picture where I can say yes that is the point. I certainly have no disrespect for the guest.
Since inception of the mankind nobody ever claims the lawship of the universe.... There is power behind our graps "What! Can there be a doubt about Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth?" Quran 14:10 Confirmation that our sight can never grasp God image in this ever expansionary universe... "No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Subtle and Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things'. Quran 6:103
Why the need for all these complex explanations to proof that God exists while God himself sent Books as the greatest evidence about His existence? Study the Quran and ask yourself: where did the statements in this Book come from ? Where did the Book come from ? Etc. If you study the Quran scientifically then you should come to the conclusion that Book has been sent by God and by nothing else. The Quran is the living evidence for all times about God’s existence.
the need is there because atheists who can argue and mainly because they are expert at their field and not many others can argue with them at their field as they simply know more details.. so to counter this.. believers have to go more deeper and give more detailed analysis with as much evidence as possible otherwise it gives the high quality athiest arguments more power in heir arguments
@@jenniferphilips1916 as you said the ateist’s arguments are not understandable for majority of the people so we should come with something that’s more accessible to everyone and that’s the Quran itself. The Quran can be scientifically researched and the results of this should be used for the proof of God’s existence. The Book itself claims to be from the Creator of the Universe. The speaker in the first person form is God Himself in the whole Book. The Book tells something about how God created the universe and the humans and the sun and the moon. So at least try to investigate these claims and who the source of the book can be scientifically. And afaik Quran is the only religious scripture that claims to be from God and that this last book has been preseryby Himself.
I tend to agree with you that "God himself sent Books as the greatest evidence" although I accept the New Testament books as pointing to the true God. However I'm not against a study of the Quran. In fact, I like your question of "where did the statements in this Book come from?" I'm a Christian believer so I am asking such a question. I'm not trying to insult Islam in any way. I try to respect Muslims.
@@jenniferphilips1916 But how can we "go more deeper and give more detailed analysis" when many of us are not scholars or "expert at their field"? I'm a simple believer and I'm not very scientifically minded. Peace
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Well done Paul, you can make a string but with different elements such as: 1. Verses of the Qur’an and hadith texts that deal with the problem of atheism with a Salafi sheikh And thinking about the kingdom of God and the stories of the Qur’an and the Sunnah in atheism. 2. Atheism versus the science of the Qur'an. To talk about the scientific miracles in the Qur’an and Sunnah. Dr. Zagloul Al-Najjar 3. Evidence for the existence of God from scientific and innate proofs with Sheikh Abdullah Al-Ajiri 4. The miracles of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in his life and knowledge of the future Perhaps with Brother Shamsi, Karim AbuZaid or Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Dimashqieh. Good luck .
@@Abdullah.......... Whoever opposes the path of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who understood the religion from the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly and transmitted it to us, his path is certainly perverted. Deviation means innovation and misinterpretation, which was not indicated by the understanding of the first generations. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh warned us of that in the authentic hadiths and that Muslims will scatter into sects that will enter Hell.. and the surviving sect that will enter Paradise will be those who follow him and his companions, may God be pleased with them. So your criterion is always understanding the belief of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh and following them. Any interpretation of the Qur’an or hadiths confirm whether the companions of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh and the six hadith scholars and the four scholars of jurisprudence who were on the religion of the early Muslims said it or not .
@@Abdullah.......... What he is saying, with all this nonsense is: Yes. That's what some salafis believe. So much so that they won't accept being in the same room as muslims, or pray in the same mosques.
@@Ersilay It is assumed that all Muslims are Salafis because there is no sane Muslim who refuses to follow the doctrine of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH and his companions. Simply follow what the first generations were like and you will be loved by the Salafis. The Islamic religion is complete and immutable and does not change Whoever invents and invents in the religion of Islam, we will certainly reject him because he will violate the guidance of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Be with the companions, my brother.
Really interesting discussion. This sheikh is both understandable but precise. Is there a name for this kind of argument? Is it different than the Kalam cosmological argument?
I think it's still confusing, especially when you guys trying to separate the islamic position to the christian? He also sounds struggling in explaining things... And the bricks example is not explained clearly... So rather than put the main argument in contingentcy, because the atheist also believe that... it'll get mudded as you explain things. For me it'll be clearer if you guys trying to explain things in terms of the actual relationship with each other, e.g, hierarchy, limitation, etc. So the contingentcy or kalam argument just the preface, I think hierarchy is a good argument to bring the premise straight to god, that also answer the bricks example.
This is the age-old trap of human intention and agency: that there must be 'something' that causes or explains events, something "human-like" but beyond humanity.
Atheist to his little daughter: "let's have a chat". Little girl: "about what?" Atheist (with a sneaky intelligent smile): "how about there is no God". Little girl: "sounds interesting". Atheist: "if I put a Chimp on a type writer and give it unlimited time it will come to a stage where it will write the entire work of Shakespeare" little girl: "Chimp on a type writer is possible but God theory is impossible?!!!”
@@richardbradley1532 how is it the product mathematics when zero multiple by zero to infinity could never give you 1 let around a whole world that is so articulate which is by default anti-mathematics
"Because if someone believes in the incarnation, in the crucifixion, then they are saying that God became a contingent thing." Yes, Jesus was obedient to God the Father. However I think Jesus' love for creation comes from His very essence and nature.
The guest looks to have failed to answer the key question asked of him by Paul, that how can you prove the existence of the 'ABRAHAMIC' God. Basically you cannot, it requires a combination of faith, trust, hope, intuition and personal experience.
Can someone explain why "all contingent things need necessary being to exist"? Why does it have to be a "being" and not another thing (that is not contingent)? Why only one being and not any number of them? Assuming the existence of the non contingent being that make universe work, why do we think that this being cares for anything that happens or listens to prayers? Or in other words what's the connection between non contingent being and god? "Radical contingency" does not seem to me as a convincing argument for existence of god, Muslim or otherwise. The universe may have no reason or purpose. Why is it so difficult to come to terms with that? Is invisible man in heaven really necessary to for us to have a meaningful lives?
I guess an argument would be, that the universe is finely tuned. Which indicates intelligence and a will of some sorts. And for the universe having purpose or humans having purpose, one refers to the Quran and explains why it is truly the words of allah swt.
Good question. The answer is morality, ie values. The existence of abstract values in eternal consciousness was manifested in the creation of mindful humans. Thus thre recognition of God the creator with all of his ecognized majestic atributes.
I remember as a 5 year old, asking my mother who made us. She said, "god." I asked, "who made god?" She told me he's always been here. It never made sense!
@@derekallen4568 That's almost similar to what the Greeks believed, though. And they were still theists. They believed that since God must be beginninglessly eternal, then He must have been creating the world since beginningless eternity, which would make the created world beginninglessly eternal. That doesn't mean that the universe isn't created. They knew damn well that this doesn't fly. So they argued that God had been creating the universe since forever. It's the idea of the monogenes ouranos, mentioned by Plato, and others. The only begotten heaven, a term that eventually found its way in the Gospel of John, but being applied to Jesus. Plato, however, believed that it meant that the universe is uniquelly created in the sense that, as a whole, it has been in existence since beginningless eternity, and has been coexisting with "The Maker" since beginningless eternity. It's still created, but God precedes the created world in the same way you precede your shadow. Your shadow exists alongside you, but it's dependent on your existence, whereas you are not dependent on your shadow's existence. If you were to ask those ancient philosophers who created God, they'd probably just dismiss you as an ignoramus, because the concept of God is that He is not created. The Islamic theologians of the past have since addressed and refuted the Greek idea of an eternally created universe. You're basically repeating that age-old Greek idea, but removing God from the equation entirely, while claiming that the created world is beginninglessly eternal, and not created at all. This is pure nonsense on closer examination, though, with all due respect, and perhaps it's about time for you to move beyond the ideas that occurred to 5 year old you. I take that anecdote with a grain of salt, by the way - no offense, but I find it hard to believe that you have some kind of clear recollection of your utterances as a 5 year old, let alone the idea that you were debating your mother on theological issues at that age. Your mom was right, by the way.
@@XaeeD your god spoke to Muhammad through an interpreter, the Angel Gabriel because he couldn't speak arabic. He could only speak aramaic. 130 years later your scholars had to write the hadiths because no one could understand the Qur'an. Why didn't he speak to the Aztecs across the waters and tell them human sacrifice is wrong?
@@derekallen4568 "your god spoke to Muhammad through an interpreter, the Angel Gabriel because he couldn't speak arabic" I don't know what you expect me to do with statements like this. It's a sentence that I've never heard anyone utter or write, and I don't even know what you mean by it. "Why didn't he speak to the Aztecs across the waters and tell them human sacrifice is wrong?" Who says they were never given any guidance? Is this your response to my last comment? You were bragging about how intellectually advanced you were as a 5 year old, challenging your mom and effectively ridiculing your own mother's beliefs just to try and portray yourself here as some kind of genius.. to total strangers. But then when there's a relevant response to your childish line of thinking, you reply with this nonsense? Aramaic, hadiths and Aztecs. I'll stop wasting your time. Good luck to you.
The intuition of a child, and a polytheist, are that Allah made the lightening strike because he’s angry. Allah withheld the rain because my neighbour stole bread. This does not lead us to any meaningful truth, so I disagree with your initial assertion.
The intuition of a child is to constantly ask why. Even if you look at polytheists, they were all asking why but giving different answers. Your conception of children and polytheists is a straw man.
Selamün aleyküm: where are the substitutes of Allah cc: "Zat- sıfat- fiil"...example: "Allahu zahir and batın"..."who knows himself knows Allah(Akaid-Fıkıh-Tasavvuf)...The best explanations about God and creation are given by the soufis, who have been capable of "muşahada", by innertravel...(SEYRU SÜLÛK)
It's make no sense if something exist without created by the one which exist.... even in every human kind it's very clear if you look at your fingers... don't you see the form of Allah words in Arabic language? That's why everyone are born in Islam...the parents make them Jew Christian or others (Hadits)
I was a Muslim. I read the Nag Hammadi. Now I don't worship the god of The old testament or the god of Abraham. He is the same God (Allah). The Demiurge. We've all been deceived. The state of the world and the most important question of suffering is the result of the Demiurge and his Archons.
There was zero evidence presented that we depend on Allah for our continued existence second by second. The assertion was made without any support, quickly moving on to the first cause argument - which atheists argue does not necessarily necessitate the existence of God. It’s insufficient to assert a philosophical argument. What we think makes sense has been disproved continually throughout history. A famous example is that for 2,000 years it was asserted that heavy object fall faster than lighter ones, until Galileo tested it and disproved what until then was deemed axiomatic. Great claims require great evidence. Evidence of this claim could possibly be found in Richard Feynman’s Quantum Field Theory, whereby all particles are fluctuations on their respective fields, and hence our very continued existence depends on these fields. The fields need to originate from somewhere, and that’s really the first cause argument initially proposed by Thomas Aquinas. Is this what Allah is referring to? Who knows. It’s a great shame the speaker did not provide any evidence whatsoever for this.
Sorry for being intrusive, but it looks like you are sincerely looking for answers! I would suggest the following: 1- There is someone who clearly claimed that he created the universes and the worlds, claimed his name is Allah, and he claimed he sent his words (called Qur'an), so please try to read his words, claims and arguments to see if they can answer any of your questions! 2-The other suggestion: why do not you ask him your questions directly? ! He claimed to be the All Hearing, The All Knowing, The Responsive, The Answerer! If he really exists, hears and knows so he should be able to answer your questions! Please let me now if you tried those solutions! I like experimenting, and curious what your experiments will result in!
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._* And here is the evidence I must consider when evaluating the claim by theists and as to why I currently hold to such a position. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists. 5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
@@srnp0007? I'm establishing a link between 2 metaphysical issues and see whether or nor he's being consistent. Because his points can also evaluate consciousness as being a point of agnosticism.
@@srnp0007 reincarnation? Scientists? Consciousness? I don't know who you are or what you believe, science can only be done on a stable environement in which an experience can produce the same results given the same processus based on prior observations. Consciousness, or reincarnation simply can't not be valued in science because they are at best first person experience, unreproducable with not even a falsification test to be done afterwards by the pseudo-scientists that claim to do such things...
@@BloggingTheology I agree although God is still working on me to see the evidence. Then from the evidence I need to progress to faith, although I think we can have some faith without evidence. Do you think that's possible?
@@gordonbarranger7683 Because in this internet age, you can use GOOGLE Search and you can find the answer. That's why I want to know what are you up to asking that.
it is pseudo science based arguments if it denies the existence of god, because god's creation never leads -through the real science tool- to the denial of its creator
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Have been so looking forward to this! Paul you are in my prayers. I am one of your first followers when the mike wasn’t the greatest but the content stunning as always. Learnt so much from you. May you and your family be blessed! I pray we meet in this life and if not then in next, inshallah.
Wa alaykumu s-salam
When u said Mike, I thought u meant Mike Tyson...my mind spend 20 seconds wondering if Paul had some kind of radio show in the 80s
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I'm so glad I clicked on this video! Learned a lot of things and broadened my horizon of thinking. Appreciate it!
Glad it was helpful!
@@BloggingTheology It's helpful because it shows me that the more I know, the less I seem to know. But God knows all, so let the journey begin !!
Alhamdulillah another morning tazkirah for me here in Malaysia. Its 7.34 am here now. Jazakallah sir Paul.
Ya melayu ka
Salaam alaikum brother Paul, great video, truly i believe that the Muslim teachers in the UK need to teach this to the Muslim children specially from what we call kinder garden i.e pre K to 6,7,8,9... This should be brought to the States also in order to adapt the Muslim teachers because i don't believe we too are too advanced in it.
they cant if they are super salafis and deem ashaarism as deviant as not ahl sunnah wal jamaa and so on ....THAT IS THE PROBLEM from Muhammad Ibn ABdulwahab and on...... because this ARGUMENTATION to prove Allah is necessary, is Ashaarism/Maturidism PURE and SIMPLE ....... ahlu hadith, than atharism and so on, were always focused on learning the hadith, believe in it, never try to reason the why of things, they viewed the whole philosophy as being deviant or even kufr sometimes..... whereas Asharites (to not mention Muatazila) took what is objective in philosophy, like logic, and used it to their benefit...... all the problem comes from the fact modern neo atharism/ neo salafism has gone one step further claiming asharites which are the majority of ummah scholars from its beginning as deivants..... and so all the argumentation, the use of mind is forbidden
The best answer is
Ignore all branches of religious thought . Salafi.Wahabi, Mutazili, Asharite , and all 4 schools of Fiqah hanafi, hambali etc etc
Why ?
Our beloved Prophet used religion to make the divided society of Arabs people into one . Our God is ONE and we are ONE .
Unfortunately for us and fortunately for the enemies of peace. We divide ourself using religion to bits and pieces of 70 or more groups . Weakening ourself , so much so that we cant even defend ourself and we are being killed like ants . And each group has been busy writing books on religion and fiqh , books if stacked they go above the washington monument in height .
As is said in Quran each one is happy and thinks itself right.
In India the Deobandi do not pray in Baraelwi Masjid and they do not marry each others daughters too . So what are doing with all those books written by each group . When we treat each other as a business shop and do not want to give up the sheep that follow each group .
Ban all the groups study Quran be one people . If we cant do that wevot it all upside down .
Why upside down .
Reason is instead of strengthening we have weakened us .
A learned man like Dr Naik who studied comparative religions and showed to the world all religions teach there is ONE GOD , even in Hinduism ,he gets hounded by the Hindu nationalistic goverment and he had to leave his birth place due to persecution . And now same people in India the killers of Mahatma Gandhi ( the Rss, BJP the party of MODI) declared openly for Hindus to arm themself to kill millions of Muslims , there is no one government that kicked down this genocidal pronouncement to kill 2 million MUSLIMS .
Why this ?
There is no Muslim leader or Community that warns Modi if a 1000, Innocent muslims are killed then an equal number of Hindus will get killed , innocent ones , will lose their life too and Modi and Minions will be responsiblefor the loss of innocent lives on both sides .
So my frien focus on One God ONE RELIGION ONE PEOPLE ONE AIM TO SERVE GOD BY SERVING THE PEOPLE MAKING PEOPLES LIFE A BIT BETTER AND easier.
Establish what is right . Uphold human rights and human dignity . That is the prime importance .
Hadees is good only if it makes common sense . Life of our beloved prophet is not deadhe lives through us if we follow the rules in auran his life was a living Quran
We can erect the Nation or Nations wherever we are by our services. Which are sincere, just , compassionate, charitable Thoughtful at every step and Progressive in science and technology .
Presence or absence of God read surah kahaf clear answer is available .
I and you and 8 billion or so humans did not see who the father is.
Similarly we have not seen how the creator created this programmed Universe .
There is no program without a programmers . We see the presence of a programmer when we see our GENOME . If only we have some sense to sense it . .
Not programmers but PROGRAMMER.
Sorry about typo .
@@786humaira1 WE ARE CALLING TO THAT, AND FOCUSING ON THAT...... problem is, actual neo salafis are the ones who are ruining it all....... its MIAW minhaj....... what do you want me to do? dont you know the actual ruling Umar left to the 5 he chose to be the next caliphate?? "if one is against your mutual will........ kill him" .... why?? because if there is one extremist amongst them .....he can ruin all the ummah if he create a civil war between muslims, and his life is faaar less, than the lives that will be lost............ that's exactly what is happenning now........... the bulk of the ummah is united, even if we differ with shia, we can still tolerate them........... there is only one minhaj that creates refutation, that call everyone else even in the sunni realm "deviants, kafirs, out of the jamaa, and so on"........... its the neo salafis, because they dont wanna follow classical atharism, but the manifestation of modern salafism is in fact nadjdism.......... its not our fault, its their........ and when there is a problem, IT NEED AT LEAST TO BE EXPOSED, the harm they did to the ummah began by the destruction of the khilafa WHICH IS 80% THEIR FAULT, to the mental retardation and the weakness of the whole ummah today which is prey to evil leaders which are pawns to some western powers that doesnt wanna see any new power coming to disturb theirs....... neo salafis are the source of all our actual problems............. one of them is what i mentionned, which an academical fact...... this contingency argument is asharite.........and as along as there are neo salafis that mocks people like Mohammad Hijab, Hamza Tzortzis, and the likes of Hamzal Karamali calling them Salaphilosophers....... there is no way we can use these arguments in unity as an ummah............ they forbid the usage of brain ....belive it or not ......
Wow this was another amazing upload Paul. Brother Hamza reflecting deep into the Quran MashaAllah.
Not only contingency but also placement of signs and clues in whole creation proves itself the existence of God, as Allah says in Quran
We will show them Our Signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this (the Quran) is the truth” [Fussilat 41:53]
Aoa brother Paul, I think this video was produced at the perfect time given the backlash after the Ali Dawah video and the controversy there. But Jazakallahu kheiran!
Salam. What was the video you mentioned if i may ask ?
What video?
What video?
Ali dawah mocked apuss … and people didn’t like it and many people are suggesting he should have shown respect to apuss !
@@VandalIO Why in the world should we show respect to someone who is obviously and clearly very disrespectful and blatantly lies and mocks us and our prophet saw?
Very interesting: the shaykh described Islamic philosophy of science as finding relations between contingencies, while knowing them to be contingent on God; whereas "Western science" tends not to notice that the contingences are contingent. It reminded me of Ibn Ata'illah:
'Travel not from creature to creature,
otherwise you will be like a donkey at the mill:
Roundabout he turns, his goal the same as his departure.
Rather, go from creatures to the Creator:
“And that the final end is unto thy Lord.” '
In short .. "No matter how hard one studies a painting .. one will never figure out the shoe size of the painter or the reason the painter painted it" ... BUT scientism says "I've studied the painting and conclude that it painted itself, no painter is necessary .. trust me I'm a scientist". cosmically absurd.
@@bengreen171 Really? So, why did Da Vinci paint Mona Lisa? or Van Gogh "The Sun Flowers" and so on. Please, do tell! .. Condition: Just by looking at the painting, assuming you did not know it was by these giant personalities.
I've never seen nor heard in history so far, where cans of paint randomly fell to produce anything like these works of art selling for $millions (80's / 90's modern art nonsense aside).
Does raise the question of why humans value such works?
To us the painting is the th-cam.com/video/_9ongwpPG7w/w-d-xo.html
@@bengreen171 My bad .. Van Gogh. However, by appealing to AI, you are proving my thesis. Thank you. The need always appeal to a higher intelligence is in-built. Call it AI, but then what designed the AI? Humans do it without thinking, instinctively. Humans intuitively understand that splashes of paint arranged in an intricate manner requires a Will and Choice, to produce a recognizable image, which cannot come about by accident. How more so the structure and design of nature and the cosmos and it's associated "natural" laws?
Salaams, Omg, he's my teacher!!!! You're the best Paul!!! Salaams Sheikh Hamza!
Wa alaykumu s-salam
Thnx for both of , beautiful conversation
God bless ur days amen 🤲🏻🌺🌺
Thank you too!
The thing about atheists is they have double standard.
You point them a tall building and ask them who built it? Who designed it? They will say, an Architect, even though he doesn't know who that architect is, what's his name, where he lives, but they could say with absolute certainty that a human (with Architect as the occupation) designed it. If I say that that tall building is just rocks and concrete coincidentally align themselves over long enough period of time built itself they wouldn't believe it.
Then you point your fingers to themselves, It's far more complex than any buildings human could ever build, ask them who designed it? They will say, Evolution and natural selection. Then, who orchestrated it? And they answered, well it just happened by itself. And this is how they just contradict themselves.
How convenient, that we live in a planet that isn't too big otherwise we'd be crushed by its gravity, that rotates around the sun (a Type-G star, that might still emit energy for billion years to come) with perfect distance so that it doesn't melt us nor freeze us, with atmosphere that protect us from space stuffs, filled with organisms and ecosystems that complements each other. How much coincidences does it takes to convince them that all of these coincidences can't be just coincidences.
All of our cells/molecules/atoms that we are using right now to be part our body, is merely "borrowed", and once our time has finished in this world, we will return those "borrowed" stuffs back, down to the earth where the next organism will make use of it. Until the end where everything will eventually go back to the Creator. I think their heart has to be really blind, if they are unable to see signs from Allah. It's everywhere, if only they are willing to open their eyes.
Beautifully articulated👍👌 Allah SWT bless, protect, guide & favour you🤲 Aameen
True!!
Good stuff; we need to emphasize on the soul (G-D's breath?).
Patently we humans are just material IF not because of the existence of the Soul that the Creator G-D endowed us with.
For me personally The DNA and its origin is overwhelming evidence for a mind behind the universe and its the best explaination to life that exists
The problem is theists can't give the name of the architect. Hindus will point to their architect and so on.
Why didn't the architect just sign his name?
There is an interesting hadith that I think everyone should be aware of:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Satan comes to one of you and says, "Who created so-and-so? 'till he says, 'Who has created your Lord?' So, when he inspires such a question, one should seek refuge with Allah and give up such thoughts."
Sahih al-Bukhari 3276
In-book: Book 59, Hadith 85
USC-MSA web (English): Vol. 4, Book 54, Hadith 496 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Thank you Shaykh Hamza and Paul for the discussion, I finished it to and from work today.
Masha ALLAH awesome explanation
excellant video, thank you very much for putting it online for everybodys benefit
Great analogy about the line of men leaning on each other. A truly wonderful way of explaining the concept to an elementary age kid.
Thank you!
Brilliant. One of the best videos yet
33:00 onwards - very good explanation, "science being a subset of knowledge, explaining contingent portion of universe/reality", "adding metaphysical clarity ..". I observed that academics are able to grasp this but older generation and old school blind followers/people following regional cultural group/literalists don't care to understand it, and dismissing it as some new apologist innovation . This is due to somewhere down the chain, Asharai/Maturidi kalam was dropped or never introduced.
Amazing discussion
Thanks a lot guys.
MashAllah ,may Allah reward you
If you were to look for proof of gods existence according to Islam we should start with the Quran which is a divine miraculous book which we Muslims argue is the word of God, it has been memorised by millions globally which is a miracle in itself, as Allah says in the Quran: "we have made it easy for you to remember it" children have memorised it, blind people have memorised it, people that can't speak Arabic have memorised it, its full of miracles, linguistic miracle, numerical miracles, scientific miracles, one of the miracles being that the sun the moon and the planets orbit, we have came to find out the sun orbits until very recently scientists didn't know, it also tells us to reflect on this creation, I'd start with the Quran, another source being the hadith contains prophecies which no man should know 1400 years ago such as their being 360 joints in the body or knowing that their is a disease in one of the flies wings and that the cure to the disease lies in the other wing and the cure to your food which has been infected is to remove the fly from your food and dip it back in then remove it and throw it, no man should know this 1400 years ago, without technology unless he had communication with the creator.
I guess you are providing proof that the creator is Allah. Rationality to establish the existence of a creator must be found in the Quran, I agree.
I memorise rock songs. Does that mean that Axl Rose is a god?
While I get what you are saying, there's an obvious objection one could raise to your approach, which is that your approach constitutes a circular type of reasoning. You are presenting the Qur'an to a sceptic, for instance, and telling them that; "This is the Word of God, and if we look at what the book has to say, we find evidences for the existence of God". The sceptic will likely dismiss that, since you've assumed (from their perspective) that the book is the Word of God. In other words, you've assumed the existence of God already. After all, how could it be the Word of God, unless God already exists, right? So even though at face value it might seem to be a nice idea that all proofs need to be validated by the Qur'an, it is not a viable position. Sceptics will consider it to be narrow minded (as somatotrophin's comment shows), and it leads to circular reasoning, and circular reasoning is certainly not Quranic. In fact, the Qur'an encourages sound reasoning in general, because it is the only means to know truth from falsehood. Besides, prior to the Qur'an, many people also believed in God, and so there are evidences for God's existence outside of scripture. There are two fundamental ways of proving the Creator's existence, according to Sunni theologians: The first is by arguing based on the need of creation for specification. For example, anything with a size needs to be specified in terms of its size and other characteristics, because there are infinite possibilities for how it is to be. This means that all the different bodies in the cosmos right now need to have been specified. The second way is by arguing based on the need of anything with a beginning to be brought into existence, and that this bringing into existence cannot be from the world itself. The aim in using both ways, is to show that this specification, and bringing into existence, cannot come from the cosmos itself, but from an Almighty Creator. The Kalaam scholars call the first way, "arguing based on possibility" and the second "arguing based on existence after non-existence." These two ways are the fundamental bricks of absolutely all arguments to show that the world has a Creator. This includes those used by Sunnis, including the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah and Ad-Daarimiyy.
@Hamzah Belkadi
Logic and common sense is enough to prove Allah’s existence. Atheist are sad people, they know deep down that all of these things can not come by chance. Every time i speak to an atheist, they either run or they accept the truth. -:)
@@somatotrophin1535 You guys, the both of you.. this isn't about winning and losing an online debate, it should be about learning and teaching. I can tell you right now that whatever discussion the two of you are going to have is not going to result in any one of you changing your mind.
كَيْفَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتًا فَأَحْيَاكُمْ ۖ ثُمَّ يُمِيتُكُمْ ثُمَّ يُحْيِيكُمْ ثُمَّ إِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ ﴿٢٨﴾ هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ لَكُم مَّا فِي الْأَرْضِ جَمِيعًا ثُمَّ اسْتَوَىٰ إِلَى السَّمَاءِ فَسَوَّاهُنَّ سَبْعَ سَمَاوَاتٍ ۚ وَهُوَ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ عَلِيمٌ ﴿٢٩﴾
This is How God proves His own existence!!
"How can you refuse to acknowledge God, seeing that you were lifeless and He gave you life and that He will cause you to die and then will bring you again to life, whereupon unto Him you will be brought back? (28) He it is who has created for you all that is on earth, and has applied His design to the heavens and fashioned them into seven heavens; and He alone has full knowledge of everything. (2:29)
Brother Paul many thanks:
Let's get to know 4 natural things!
1. God (The Creator) for
2. The creatures (sciences)
3. The Qur'an (explanations) for
4. The 3 above plus (unseen)
Dear father Paul, may you seek and research deeply ( Quran: chapter 18: verse 109). This verse is enough for every believer if God wills.
The Lord says in the Qur'an:
"And have you seen the water that you drink?__Is it you who brought it down from the clouds, or is it We who bring it down?__if We willed, We could make it bitter, so why are you not grateful?" Al-Waaqia: 68-70.
What's interesting is that if you were to bite an onion your mouth would burn, when we near and onion are eyes burn as a reaction to the onion and we have tears as are eyes burn, but altough the sea is salty when the clouds collect moisture from the sea and tear/rain it's unsalty 🤔 hmm... 🤔😂
Allah bless you brother
And bless you too. From Florida
Brother Paul, As salam..
By the way, I would love to see this video tiltle like, "Existence of God according to [Name]'s scientific thought experiments"
May Allah guide us all.
Wa alaykumu s-salam
Hello Paul, you should invite professor Roger Trigg. He is a British philosopher who's famous for his work of deconstructing Logical Positivism which is the philosophy behind the scientism and neo atheism. I read his book Beyond Matter: Why science needs metaphysics
it was fantastic, made me understand that what is called Pop science is a fad and Real Science is kidnapped by atheists to appeal to its authority and to make it says things it never claimed, check it out.
I might have to read that book by Roger Trigg.
Happy to see a new Traditional Sunni scholar :)
Thank you Bro Pau. Love you for the sake Allah.
Waiting for day Hamza Yusuf is on this channel
everything is dependant on Allah the Almighty...whenever I see a scientific explanation of something for example Bernoulli's principle of flight...the first thing that comes to my mind is "no doubt Allah is holding those birds in place and what Bernoulli explained is his way of holding them in place".
we all believe in all the scientific theories like photosynthesis....but as a Muslim, we all know that all these theories are made possible by Allah and it's his way of running the system.
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Amazing work, as always. See if you can get Dr. Yasir Qadhi on! I can see you guys getting along really well, especially due to yall's mutual respect and admiration for Ibn Taymiyyah.
How do bees know that hexagonal is the best shape for their hive construction? It's highly unlikely that they would do so by trial and error, the first mistake would be fatal to their very existence before they even managed to find a better solution.
What are the odds that particular mistake just wipe out the entire species? Do you want to start the Survival of the fittest argument?
@@B1ackC3t yes, but if evolution is a random process there should be more than trillions of bee species that have gone extinct since they randomly create other possible geometric shape for their hive....and this one happened to randomly create the "fit" hexagonal geometry for their hive?
@@silvercat3243 Your observations are very interesting. We need to ponder such.
To the question why are there things rather nothing.., i think because Allah is a Creator, so if there were nothing then Allah would be a creator without creation, and that goes against our belief, it is in contradiction with the Main caracteristic of Allah the creator.
Thx for sharing Paul.
33:30 the childs answer would be like that of a person who puts down the final correct answer like a calculator in a mathematical equation in simple terms without expanding or showing the steps to the final answer.
Where as hardline materialist/ naturalist on the other hand, would forget the final answer or fail to arrive at the correct final answer, for being to focused or even stuck on some of the steps in between.
Can’t wait to watch!
May I recommed inviting Dr.Eyad Qunaibi? He has an exteremly underrated youtube channel and does a lot of work debunking atheism, darwinism and scientism.
Asalamo alaikum. People used to believe that science and religion were mutually exclusive, yet the deeper that scientists dig, the more convinced they are of an 'intelligent design' to explain the inexplicable. Stephen Meyer, an American philosopher who did his PhD here at Cambridge uses biology as his platform as evidence of the existence of 'an intelligent being'. Although he comes from a non-Muslim perspective, his videos are truly worth watching and only confirm what is written in the holy Quran.
Wa alaykumu s-salam Dr Stephen Meyer will be appearing on Blogging Theology on 16th March inshallah.
@@BloggingTheology Wow... I look forward to that discussion. I've just started reading one of Stephen Meyer's books !
Oh Allah, grant your peace, love and protection on uncle Paul, his family and the whole Muslim Ummah. Aameen!
Ameen!
the best argument for God is the transcendental argument. no one can beat that.
Paul you should invite Hamza Andreas Tzortzis :)
at 8:03 this person claims everything is being held up by something which he believes is god. how does positing god (a necessary being who requires no explanation as per this person) add any extra explanatory power?
Well eventually it will be a necessity otherwise you'll go down an infinite loop, somethings can't be explained.
Lets for the sake of argument say that that thing isn't god, something like dark matter ( just for the sake of argument) . If it was the thing that held everything else up, it shouldn't be held up by anything but you'll never be able to explain in a hundred life times how it came to be, some stuff is just beyond us tbh.
@@lazytitan1075 lack of explanation doesn't default to god. imo also infinity is a measure of time, which started as the universe started, so the past is not infinite imo.
@@lazytitan1075 the speaker is a muslim so obviously when he has no explanation, he will default to allah. that is not the case for non muslims.
The existence of existence is proven by the one for whom it exists.
You might be interested in bringing in brothers from the thought adventure podcast on TH-cam. They discuss many of these topics in a lot of depth including criticisms given by various atheists
The first argument doesn't follow!
He starts off with notion the child's answer that "God did it" has a possibility of being right or wrong, and we ought to have humbleness to consider that possibility because we don't know everything. Ok, so far so good.
Then he mentions a paradox that if everything is dependent on something else what is the first thing that everything is dependent on, meaning, although we can't see what's preventing a line of leaning people from falling but we can infer something is preventing the last person in line from falling over.
Ok we now know that there is something we don't know about the line (infinite?) or what is at the end (a wall?)...
he says it can't be infinity because even infinitely long line of people would collapse. i.e. you would go from infinitely long line of leaning people to infinitely long line of people on the floor.
ok we ruled out infinity, as the line can be infinitely long but that's not why it's holding up. BUT it doesn't explain how universe is like the line. The metaphor of leaning people standing in a line is great at explaining that in a system where A is dependent on B to stay in a certain state, and B on C and so on and everyone is dependent, then if states are being maintained then it's not due to infinity. But it doesn't explain how that is relevant to universe. Who is to say universe is "holding up", maybe universe IS falling over but process is so slow that we don't notice it. (First Problem)
Then he says that since science depends on things in universe and if origin lies out of universe then that's the limit of science, that's true.
But then he conclude therefore child's approach is the truth as it doesn't rely on science. Just because we can't say with 100% certainty that science so far or ever acquired will be 100% correct/sufficient. It's possible it to be right without proof. Just how a child with knowledge has possibility of being right, science with also has possibility of being right. Ie. scientists could guess what is holding up universe from outside of universe (Second Problem)
While it's interesting and intellectual discussion I think Muslims should avoid placing too much importance on these "for God" arguments because they are in their infancy and fragile, and are not the source of our belief system. Our belief is that Quran is an unaltered book, Quran was not written by one person but collected as a community, Quran was revealed through Prophet Muhammad, Quran couldn't have been invented by him as he didn't know how to read or write, Quran says it's from God. Prophet didn't invent religion for personal gain. Perhaps existence of Holy Quran is biggest evidence for Islam and argument for God.
@@bengreen171 you're very good at making claims without providing a shred of evidence Ben. You state that Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) knew as much as the average merchant, what is your proof of this? There is mass testimony that he was illiterate.
You also mention the linguistic beauty of the Qur'an and resort to an ad hominem attack, implying that OP isn't well read, so therefore he cannot judge which book is linguisticly the best. I bet you cannot read Arabic, let alone understand classical Arabic, therefore leaving you in no position to make claims about the linguistic miracle of the Qur'an.
It is interesting you accused OP of making unjustified assumptions, when you yourself have made bogus, sub standard, and erroneous claims yourself.
@@bengreen171 So quran copied the babylonian myth? Well, I have seen the song (epic gilgamesh), but how do u know that it copies?
Ah, do u know that there are other great poets during the time of prophet Muhammad, who doesn’t challenge quran poems? Learn classical arabic please, we dont wanna read quran in english to compare to the other poems.
English is really simple compared to arab
@@bengreen171 But I would like to ask you, can you point out the mistakes in quran? Please. Thanks
Yeah I agree with you, we cant just say quran is true because it says its true. There are many other evidences, u can perhaps compare the old quran manuscripts, to the current quranic text. Lets see if there are any changes
@@bengreen171 I cannot take you seriously. You have made the standard of evidence to suffice you impossible. If everyone that could give testimony is a central figure of the religion (according to you), how could testimony ever be given then? Not to mention that the people who testify to his illiteracy are not "central figures" like you mentioned.
you mention that the historal account presented by the Qur'an is inaccurate, well surely then the question is based on what? You are not using the Bible by any chance are you?
As for your last statement, about rambling and rabbit holes, I will just pressume that you can't comprehend the fact the book was revealed over a period of 23 years, and that the repetition emphasizes key themes, adding to the beauty of the Qur'an.
@@bengreen171 Yes I know. But I’m pretty sure the most obvious thing people know is from the epic of gilgamesh.
It's good to prove God's existence (although it's a shame we have to) but this is not enough to be saved, you must also give your heart and life to Allah and obey the Prophet
@@somatotrophin1535 you need help mentally
Hey Aaron... I'm a Christian believer but I like your comments because I feel it is true that " you must also give your heart and life to Allah". My Allah is God and I believe He sent His only Son to earth to show us God's love. Thanks and peace
@@johnbrzykcy3076 blasphemous
@@boogus1670 What do you see as "blasphemous"? Can you explain more? Thanks
@@johnbrzykcy3076 saying God sent his son down to earth and that he is God in a 3 part system and God died by his own creation is kind of weird to me it’s especially odd when you claim Allah
Science is human attempt to understand the world. Some theories are matured and some are still evolving. Some are totally untrue but accepted by some group of scientists based on peer acceptance/reviewed concepts.
I was hoping for some insight into Islam. Sadly I have it. There is certainly a specific kind of dependency here.
Well, assalamu alaikum,I am at the halfway point... but one thought/idea that intrigues me is, We get the dependency arguement. But Could we point out some specific properties or incidents around us that we can start explaining, and go deep enough and show that, there are inexplainable conditions existing at the bottom of the hole?? Could we point some out??
like, from my point, I could argue, the random generation of subatomic particles, the very short lifespan particles, and also the matter-antimatter assymmetry theory are some of such problems. And also while the child in the beginning theasked, why the sky is blue, we go deep enough on how photons are dispersed, we see inexplainable random conditions , yet the sky is blue everywhere...
Well, I am a leyman, but in my small brain, it tells me, where statistics is used to explain a scietific regular phenomena, meaning, there is no clearcut law, but we need to explain stuff through observation, could probably be part of such argument.
Feels like going deep into a fractal, we keep getting newer and newer looks into it, and we are sure that something solid unit is at the end, but we can't just see that... yet we know it's there, and we don't come into term that we are never there... we are just discovering newer and newer layer and getting prouder and prouder, and only ALLAH know, how deep the rabbithole goes...
How does the world works then?? Instead of getting perfect explanations, we get only workable explanations, like, we can never calculated the last digit of pi, but we are working with 3.14159 quite well, this much is necessary, but not the end, we can't get that deep. We are limited.
That's very interesting. Plz call Asrar Rashid also
Allah SWT told our prophet pbuh not to be concerned about the disbelievers but simply convey His messages.
Brother we don't have to prove anything to anyone.Whoever believes for their own good and whoever rejects for their punishment for we have many ayat about the Ashabul Mash'amah and we know that Allah SWT will fill Jahannam with most of the humanity and jinns.
Remember Allah SWT shuts their BASEERAH because of their excessive cynicism.So let them entertain themselves for a while until the Day where their eyes will stare in horror.
Absolutely agree!👌🏼👍🏼
There is consciousness. In the beginning was consciousness.
Thank you!
at 7:40, the speaker's thought experiment of everything being held up by something pre-supposes a god. he assumes that god exists and thus everyone is still standing and not on the ground. he hasn't provided any proof to show that everyone standing definitely proves god. or at least thats how i understand it.
*Question:*
What is the evidence for the existence of God?
*Answer:*
The evidence is all around you.
The presence of the creator can be seen through the presence of the creation. Every object we see on earth, under the water, below the ground, above the land, and up in the sky is a designed system consisted of components that provide a set of function working together on the grid to achieve a purpose. Both nature where animals live and society where people live are revolving around that.
Everything is highly dependant on something else. And everything from the most minuscule to the most enormous in scale is revolving around design, function, and purpose.
The fact that every object has a structure, it has components, it is in order, its components provide specific functions, its functions are working in harmony, it has a purpose that wants to be achieved; all of that shows that every object is a design, which means there is a designer. Pretty much self-demonstrated. You want people to demonstrate an object as a design, and yet fail to realize the object itself is a self-demonstrated design.
If you see a 10-stories building in front of you, you instantaneously understood that the building must be designed. How come your recognition of the building as a designed object is in an instant? Because the building itself is a self-demonstrated design. You saw it with your own perceptive eyes. The building has many information that indicate itself as a design. It has a structure, it has components, it is in order, its components provide functions, its functions are working in harmony, it has a purpose that wants to be achieved. Hence you understood in an instant that the building is a design, and you don't need anyone to demonstrate it. You understood such a thing cannot come out of randomness. It must be designed. Which means you also understood that this design has a designer.
*Keypoint:* A sheer of randomness will only resulting in an abstract, and never will give birth to a design.
*The maxim:* The presence of abstract shows the absence of design. The absence of design shows the absence of supporting function. The absence of supporting function means the absence of harmony. The absence of harmony means the presence of chaos. The presence of chaos means the absence of purpose.
A chaotic system can never achieve any purpose since order cannot come from chaos. Order is needed so that existing functions on the system can achieve the purpose. Order can only come from design. Chaos is the product of the opposite of design which is an abstract. And an abstract is the product of randomness.
A randomness - an abstract - a chaos - functions fail to work together - purpose cannot be achieved
A designer - a design - an order - functions successfully work together - purpose can be achieved.
*The maxim above is very clear.*
If people don't believe in the maxim above then go challenge them to create any system by putting absolutely random things in it and see what the output of that system will be. The output will be nothing.
If a design that was born out of a sheer of randomness does occur in nature, then surely we can try to mimic its behaviour. If design and order can come out of abstract and chaos-which is irrational, all you need to do is to simulate it.
*The rule for this simulation is simple:* any system must be created simply by putting absolutely random variables/algorithms. You must not purposefully put anything by design at the slightest. See whether any purpose can be achieved or not.
*Moreover:* If such a behaviour does occur in the nature, then that behaviour must be repeated all over the place in nature like how we are able to find the golden ratio and a lot of other mathematical pattern all over the place.
If they argue that evolution is the example of a sheer of randomness that can give birth to a design, then surely such a behaviour (design and order come out of abstract and chaos) must also repeating in many places in the nature-and even in society. But throughout the years, such a thing has never been found. What that means is evolution didn't start with a sheer of randomness, but rather with design.
*What they don't realize is:* evolution is nothing but a mere function out of many functions that are existing on the grid of the system to achieve a purpose which is to sustain life. What that means is evolution is a part of the designed system. People mistakenly thinking a single function of the system as the designer of the system itself which is absurd! Order cannot come from chaos. Existence cannot come from non-existence. Intelligence cannot come from non-intelligence. Life cannot come from non-life.
*Moreover #2* If they argue that evolution is not originated from a sheer of randomness but through natural selection, then they should realize that the concept of natural selection itself is a function that must have an origin. Where does it come from? Matter colliding with other matter and such a function randomly popped up? Then surely there must be a gazillion other functions as the result of the collition between matters. How come these functions are not fading away other functions? And how come this natural selection function triumphed over other gazillion other functions? This is what they don't realize. Order and harmony between functions cannot come from randomness, but rather through design.
A chaotic system will never achieve any purpose. And life cannot be achieved and sustained through a chaotic system. Which means life can never possibly be achieved through a sheer of randomness. In other word, life can only be achieved through a design. Which means there is an architect behind life itself.
*Let us see the reality of the maxim above in our daily life.*
The house you are currently living in is an example of a designed system. Everything in there is purposefully put in place to achieve a certain purpose. What is that purpose? To make it a liveable place for human. In other word, to sustain life.
The plumbing system, the electrical wiring system, the insulation system, the ventilation system, and other things in your house; all of these are components of the system. Each one of these components will provide a very specific function. These functions are needed so that your house becomes a liveable place.
1. To make your house a liveable place is the purpose. This is what we want to achieve. How do we achieve that? By making sure that the functions needed to achieve that purpose are present
2. How to make sure that the functions that will help us to achieve that purpose are present in your house? By making sure that the plumbing system, the electrical wiring system, the insulation system, the ventilation system, and other components are present.
3. How to make sure that those components are present in your house? It needs to be designed. Those components must be purposefully put in place.
Simply by observing those components and what function they provide with our perceptive eyes, it is plausible to determine the intended purpose of the system. Once we realize that these functions you see in the nature are there working together to sustain life, and life itself as the purpose is achieved and present; it all imples that the system must be a designed system. A designed system implies there is an architect who designed the system.
Without an architect that architected the entire system (it comes out of randomness); design, function, and purpose wouldn't been found in the nature. Instead, you will find abstract, chaotic, and purposeless. An abstract and chaotic nature cannot sustain life to exist.
*Which means the existence of life itself is the proof for the existence of God.*
Every single living creature on earth are signs for the existence of God. Their mere existence is the sign for the existence of God. That is very clear. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves.
People are challenging for the evidence of God while they themselves neglected the fact that they are currently living in it!
*It really comes back to what the quran says:*
(Dr. Mustafa Khattab translation)
(1) Ḥâ-Mĩm.
(2) The revelation of this Book is from Allah-the Almighty, All-Wise.
(3) Surely in ˹the creation of˺ the heavens and the earth are signs for the believers.
(4) And in your own creation, and whatever living beings He dispersed, are signs for people of sure faith.
(5) And ˹in˺ the alternation of the day and the night, the provision sent down from the skies by Allah-reviving the earth after its death-and the shifting of the winds, are signs for people of understanding.
(6) These are Allah’s revelations which We recite to you ˹O Prophet˺ in truth. So what message will they believe in after ˹denying˺ Allah and His revelations?
-Chapter Al-Jathiya, Verse 1-6
*This is a clear evidence for the existence of God. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding himself.*
I invite you all who read this writing to embark on your own personal journey for finding the capital T truth. The journey is simple and easy to do.
1. Put down all your biases and presumptions.
2. Use your attentive ears to listen to what the Quran has to say, and keep continue listening until you actually understand the whole picture of what the Quran is saying. Don't make a hasty judgement when you are still at this point.
3. Use your perceptive eyes to observe the universe; in the horizon, in nature, in society, in history, even within yourself and look how evidences that point out to the divinity and truthfulness of the Quran are scattered everywhere.
4. Use your mindful heart to think, ponder, and contemplate the two point above.
5. Make your own decision whether you would embrace it or continue to reject it.
*Go ahead and buy a copy of the Quran with its English translation, and simply read.*
Alhamdulillah, one guy I think you should really try to get on is Mathoma he has knowledge on metaphysics and is a theist. I think you would love this videos as well I used to watch him. If not, at least check out his videos 😉
We can explain the reasons for the sun shining back to a fraction of a second after the big bang. Before that, new science, a quantum gravity theory is needed before we can explain anything. Anything is likely to include whether contingency is an issue.
JazakAllah khair brother Paul. The topic is very intend extremely important specially for Muslims. However I am disappointed by the hesitant way of delivery by the guest. I am sure he has the knowledge and expertise but somehow how he is not fluid with his thoughts. He would divert to a different line of reasoning in the middle of a sentence and thus creating confusion. I had to watch 3 times and taking notes in between to get some sense of what is being said but unfortunately I still don’t get a clear picture where I can say yes that is the point. I certainly have no disrespect for the guest.
Dr Arif Ahmed would be good to talk to re contingency and infinite regress to provide balance.
Allah is the greatest❤️
Since inception of the mankind nobody ever claims the lawship of the universe.... There is power behind our graps "What! Can there be a doubt about Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth?" Quran 14:10
Confirmation that our sight can never grasp God image in this ever expansionary universe... "No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Subtle and Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things'. Quran 6:103
Why the need for all these complex explanations to proof that God exists while God himself sent Books as the greatest evidence about His existence?
Study the Quran and ask yourself: where did the statements in this Book come from ? Where did the Book come from ? Etc.
If you study the Quran scientifically then you should come to the conclusion that Book has been sent by God and by nothing else.
The Quran is the living evidence for all times about God’s existence.
the need is there because atheists who can argue and mainly because they are expert at their field and not many others can argue with them at their field as they simply know more details.. so to counter this.. believers have to go more deeper and give more detailed analysis with as much evidence as possible otherwise it gives the high quality athiest arguments more power in heir arguments
@@jenniferphilips1916 as you said the ateist’s arguments are not understandable for majority of the people so we should come with something that’s more accessible to everyone and that’s the Quran itself.
The Quran can be scientifically researched and the results of this should be used for the proof of God’s existence.
The Book itself claims to be from the Creator of the Universe. The speaker in the first person form is God Himself in the whole Book. The Book tells something about how God created the universe and the humans and the sun and the moon.
So at least try to investigate these claims and who the source of the book can be scientifically.
And afaik Quran is the only religious scripture that claims to be from God and that this last book has been preseryby Himself.
I tend to agree with you that "God himself sent Books as the greatest evidence" although I accept the New Testament books as pointing to the true God. However I'm not against a study of the Quran. In fact, I like your question of "where did the statements in this Book come from?" I'm a Christian believer so I am asking such a question.
I'm not trying to insult Islam in any way. I try to respect Muslims.
@@srnp0007 Do you also believe that the New Testament is "Nonsensical belief"? I'm just curious
@@jenniferphilips1916 But how can we "go more deeper and give more detailed analysis" when many of us are not scholars or "expert at their field"? I'm a simple believer and I'm not very scientifically minded.
Peace
Stephen Meyer?! Did i hear that correctly? MasyaAllah…cant wait 🤩
If God and the machine are indistinguishable, how do we tell the difference?
ALLAH IS LORD DAY AND NIGHT THEY NEVER STOP SAYING HOLY HOLY ALLAH ALMIGHTY THAT IS THE LORD OF MANKIND AND IS THE TRUTH AND HOPE IN THIS WORLD YOU ARE WORTHY OUR LORD ALLAH ALMIGHTY TO RECIEVE GLORY AND HONOR AND POWER AND GLORY FOR YOU CREATED ALL THINGS AND BY YOUR WILL AND POWER AND GLORY THEY ALL CREATED AND HAVING THERE BEING ALLAH YOU ARE EVERLASTING TO EVERLASTING PRAISE ALLAH SUBNANALLAH ❤️
One question: Prove Isa exists through historical records.
Well done Paul, you can make a string but with different elements such as:
1. Verses of the Qur’an and hadith texts that deal with the problem of atheism with a Salafi sheikh And thinking about the kingdom of God and the stories of the Qur’an and the Sunnah in atheism.
2. Atheism versus the science of the Qur'an. To talk about the scientific miracles in the Qur’an and Sunnah. Dr. Zagloul Al-Najjar
3. Evidence for the existence of God from scientific and innate proofs with Sheikh Abdullah Al-Ajiri
4. The miracles of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in his life and knowledge of the future Perhaps with Brother Shamsi, Karim AbuZaid or Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Dimashqieh.
Good luck .
With a "salafi" sheikh... what do you mean? Rest of the non-salafi Muslims are deviants?
@@Abdullah.......... Whoever opposes the path of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who understood the religion from the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) directly and transmitted it to us, his path is certainly perverted.
Deviation means innovation and misinterpretation, which was not indicated by the understanding of the first generations.
The Prophet Muhammad pbuh warned us of that in the authentic hadiths and that Muslims will scatter into sects that will enter Hell.. and the surviving sect that will enter Paradise will be those who follow him and his companions, may God be pleased with them.
So your criterion is always understanding the belief of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh and following them.
Any interpretation of the Qur’an or hadiths confirm whether the companions of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh and the six hadith scholars and the four scholars of jurisprudence who were on the religion of the early Muslims said it or not .
@@Abdullah.......... What he is saying, with all this nonsense is: Yes. That's what some salafis believe. So much so that they won't accept being in the same room as muslims, or pray in the same mosques.
@@Ersilay It is assumed that all Muslims are Salafis because there is no sane Muslim who refuses to follow the doctrine of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH
and his companions.
Simply follow what the first generations were like and you will be loved by the Salafis.
The Islamic religion is complete and immutable and does not change
Whoever invents and invents in the religion of Islam, we will certainly reject him because he will violate the guidance of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Be with the companions, my brother.
@@user-kj8yl6sn2z what do you think about al fawzan?
Barakallaahu fiik
Really interesting discussion. This sheikh is both understandable but precise.
Is there a name for this kind of argument? Is it different than the Kalam cosmological argument?
The sheikh look to be referring to the Ontological Argument called the Contingency Argument
@@oussamademnati5625 I see, thank you sir.
Why is the situation worst if you insert extra people. Different not worst.
I think it's still confusing, especially when you guys trying to separate the islamic position to the christian? He also sounds struggling in explaining things...
And the bricks example is not explained clearly...
So rather than put the main argument in contingentcy, because the atheist also believe that... it'll get mudded as you explain things. For me it'll be clearer if you guys trying to explain things in terms of the actual relationship with each other, e.g, hierarchy, limitation, etc. So the contingentcy or kalam argument just the preface, I think hierarchy is a good argument to bring the premise straight to god, that also answer the bricks example.
Can anyone give a super concise breakdown of his argument?
Good ❤
This is the age-old trap of human intention and agency: that there must be 'something' that causes or explains events, something "human-like" but beyond humanity.
Atheist to his little daughter: "let's have a chat".
Little girl: "about what?"
Atheist (with a sneaky intelligent smile): "how about there is no God".
Little girl: "sounds interesting".
Atheist: "if I put a Chimp on a type writer and give it unlimited time it will come to a stage where it will write the entire work of Shakespeare"
little girl: "Chimp on a type writer is possible but God theory is impossible?!!!”
One is a product of mathematics the other the imagination. Will leave you decide which.
@@richardbradley1532 how is it the product mathematics when zero multiple by zero to infinity could never give you 1 let around a whole world that is so articulate which is by default anti-mathematics
@@bengreen171 Why is that the person who says others are ignorant think they are the smartest people in the room
@@bengreen171 let's be honest if someone was an arrogant hipster who needed a to join a fad to look down on everyone else, he'd 100% be an atheist
"Because if someone believes in the incarnation, in the crucifixion, then they are saying that God became a contingent thing." Yes, Jesus was obedient to God the Father. However I think Jesus' love for creation comes from His very essence and nature.
quran' man created from the earth in stages ' evolution
The guest looks to have failed to answer the key question asked of him by Paul, that how can you prove the existence of the 'ABRAHAMIC' God. Basically you cannot, it requires a combination of faith, trust, hope, intuition and personal experience.
wordsworth: "the child is father of the man"
The child in the story is now confused.😜😄
is he making a circular argument?
Can someone explain why "all contingent things need necessary being to exist"?
Why does it have to be a "being" and not another thing (that is not contingent)? Why only one being and not any number of them?
Assuming the existence of the non contingent being that make universe work, why do we think that this being cares for anything that happens or listens to prayers? Or in other words what's the connection between non contingent being and god?
"Radical contingency" does not seem to me as a convincing argument for existence of god, Muslim or otherwise.
The universe may have no reason or purpose. Why is it so difficult to come to terms with that?
Is invisible man in heaven really necessary to for us to have a meaningful lives?
I guess an argument would be, that the universe is finely tuned. Which indicates intelligence and a will of some sorts. And for the universe having purpose or humans having purpose, one refers to the Quran and explains why it is truly the words of allah swt.
Good question. The answer is morality, ie values. The existence of abstract values in eternal consciousness was manifested in the creation of mindful humans. Thus thre recognition of God the creator with all of his ecognized majestic atributes.
No he isn’t … but religion is a cheap method for social homogenization and power control telling everyone it is.
I think if u had hosted dr.Iyad qunaibi he would explained all this in way less time
I remember as a 5 year old, asking my mother who made us. She said, "god." I asked, "who made god?"
She told me he's always been here.
It never made sense!
Who created the *uncreated being* is essentially what u asked 😂
@@omaribnalahmed5967 my point, even as a 5 year old. If you posit an uncreated being, I can posit an uncreated universe.
@@derekallen4568 That's almost similar to what the Greeks believed, though. And they were still theists. They believed that since God must be beginninglessly eternal, then He must have been creating the world since beginningless eternity, which would make the created world beginninglessly eternal. That doesn't mean that the universe isn't created. They knew damn well that this doesn't fly. So they argued that God had been creating the universe since forever. It's the idea of the monogenes ouranos, mentioned by Plato, and others. The only begotten heaven, a term that eventually found its way in the Gospel of John, but being applied to Jesus. Plato, however, believed that it meant that the universe is uniquelly created in the sense that, as a whole, it has been in existence since beginningless eternity, and has been coexisting with "The Maker" since beginningless eternity. It's still created, but God precedes the created world in the same way you precede your shadow. Your shadow exists alongside you, but it's dependent on your existence, whereas you are not dependent on your shadow's existence. If you were to ask those ancient philosophers who created God, they'd probably just dismiss you as an ignoramus, because the concept of God is that He is not created. The Islamic theologians of the past have since addressed and refuted the Greek idea of an eternally created universe. You're basically repeating that age-old Greek idea, but removing God from the equation entirely, while claiming that the created world is beginninglessly eternal, and not created at all. This is pure nonsense on closer examination, though, with all due respect, and perhaps it's about time for you to move beyond the ideas that occurred to 5 year old you. I take that anecdote with a grain of salt, by the way - no offense, but I find it hard to believe that you have some kind of clear recollection of your utterances as a 5 year old, let alone the idea that you were debating your mother on theological issues at that age. Your mom was right, by the way.
@@XaeeD your god spoke to Muhammad through an interpreter, the Angel Gabriel because he couldn't speak arabic. He could only speak aramaic. 130 years later your scholars had to write the hadiths because no one could understand the Qur'an.
Why didn't he speak to the Aztecs across the waters and tell them human sacrifice is wrong?
@@derekallen4568 "your god spoke to Muhammad through an interpreter, the Angel Gabriel because he couldn't speak arabic"
I don't know what you expect me to do with statements like this. It's a sentence that I've never heard anyone utter or write, and I don't even know what you mean by it.
"Why didn't he speak to the Aztecs across the waters and tell them human sacrifice is wrong?"
Who says they were never given any guidance?
Is this your response to my last comment? You were bragging about how intellectually advanced you were as a 5 year old, challenging your mom and effectively ridiculing your own mother's beliefs just to try and portray yourself here as some kind of genius.. to total strangers. But then when there's a relevant response to your childish line of thinking, you reply with this nonsense? Aramaic, hadiths and Aztecs. I'll stop wasting your time. Good luck to you.
The intuition of a child, and a polytheist, are that Allah made the lightening strike because he’s angry. Allah withheld the rain because my neighbour stole bread. This does not lead us to any meaningful truth, so I disagree with your initial assertion.
The intuition of a child is to constantly ask why. Even if you look at polytheists, they were all asking why but giving different answers. Your conception of children and polytheists is a straw man.
You could have just said special pleading. No need for an almost hour long video just for that.
Selamün aleyküm: where are the substitutes of Allah cc: "Zat- sıfat- fiil"...example: "Allahu zahir and batın"..."who knows himself knows Allah(Akaid-Fıkıh-Tasavvuf)...The best explanations about God and creation are given by the soufis, who have been capable of "muşahada", by innertravel...(SEYRU SÜLÛK)
But it was a good lecture jazakum allahu khairan
It's make no sense if something exist without created by the one which exist.... even in every human kind it's very clear if you look at your fingers... don't you see the form of Allah words in Arabic language? That's why everyone are born in Islam...the parents make them Jew Christian or others (Hadits)
I was a Muslim. I read the Nag Hammadi. Now I don't worship the god of The old testament or the god of Abraham. He is the same God (Allah). The Demiurge. We've all been deceived. The state of the world and the most important question of suffering is the result of the Demiurge and his Archons.
Wait... what???...
Is this the second installment of Visual Novel called Tokyo Babel?
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mahammad shafique. aka. bill smith
Oh no. A wanabee
There was zero evidence presented that we depend on Allah for our continued existence second by second. The assertion was made without any support, quickly moving on to the first cause argument - which atheists argue does not necessarily necessitate the existence of God.
It’s insufficient to assert a philosophical argument. What we think makes sense has been disproved continually throughout history. A famous example is that for 2,000 years it was asserted that heavy object fall faster than lighter ones, until Galileo tested it and disproved what until then was deemed axiomatic.
Great claims require great evidence.
Evidence of this claim could possibly be found in Richard Feynman’s Quantum Field Theory, whereby all particles are fluctuations on their respective fields, and hence our very continued existence depends on these fields. The fields need to originate from somewhere, and that’s really the first cause argument initially proposed by Thomas Aquinas.
Is this what Allah is referring to? Who knows. It’s a great shame the speaker did not provide any evidence whatsoever for this.
Sorry for being intrusive, but it looks like you are sincerely looking for answers! I would suggest the following:
1- There is someone who clearly claimed that he created the universes and the worlds, claimed his name is Allah, and he claimed he sent his words (called Qur'an), so please try to read his words, claims and arguments to see if they can answer any of your questions!
2-The other suggestion: why do not you ask him your questions directly? ! He claimed to be the All Hearing, The All Knowing, The Responsive, The Answerer!
If he really exists, hears and knows so he should be able to answer your questions!
Please let me now if you tried those solutions! I like experimenting, and curious what your experiments will result in!
You are still talking about cause and effect just in a roundabout way. God is the stopper instead of the mover.
Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgement as to the existence of gods until sufficient credible evidence can be presented. My position is that *_I have no good reason to acknowledge the existence of gods._*
And here is the evidence I must consider when evaluating the claim by theists and as to why I currently hold to such a position.
1. I personally have never observed a god.
2. I have never encountered a person whom has claimed to have observed a god.
3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity.
4. I have never been presented a valid logical argument which also employed sound premises that lead deductively to a conclusion that a god(s) exists.
5. Of the 46 logical syllogisms I have encountered arguing for the existence of a god(s), I have found all to contain multiple fallacious or unsubstantiated premises.
6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon.
7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._
8. I have never experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event.
9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed has *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity.
10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have encountered have either been refuted to my satisfaction, or do not present as falsifiable.
ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the existence of a god.
I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding any acknowledgement until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstatiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._*
I welcome any cordial response. Peace.
That's the issue. You think evidence = observable.
Tell me, do you have consciousness? Or even better, do I have one?
@@srnp0007? I'm establishing a link between 2 metaphysical issues and see whether or nor he's being consistent. Because his points can also evaluate consciousness as being a point of agnosticism.
@@srnp0007 reincarnation? Scientists? Consciousness?
I don't know who you are or what you believe, science can only be done on a stable environement in which an experience can produce the same results given the same processus based on prior observations.
Consciousness, or reincarnation simply can't not be valued in science because they are at best first person experience, unreproducable with not even a falsification test to be done afterwards by the pseudo-scientists that claim to do such things...
In any case, now quote which scientist says so, in which article/peer reviewed journal and the quote which supports your claim.
@@somatotrophin1535 Good. How do you prove it.
Sad stuff - there is no evidence for God, none at all - believing or faith is not truth.
the evidence is everywhere!
@@BloggingTheology I agree although God is still working on me to see the evidence. Then from the evidence I need to progress to faith, although I think we can have some faith without evidence. Do you think that's possible?
What was muhammeds fathers name?
Why do you wanna know?
@@carliemorales204 Thats a very defensive respose,islam is so insecure am i right>?
@@gordonbarranger7683
Because in this internet age, you can use GOOGLE Search and you can find the answer. That's why I want to know what are you up to asking that.
Abdullah
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BIG BANG CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN PRIES DESCOVERY .THAT MEANS GOD IS CHRISTIAN !!!!!!!
At the start Paul definitely said 'counter'. How is that anything but anti-science?
it is pseudo science based arguments if it denies the existence of god, because god's creation never leads -through the real science tool- to the denial of its creator
GOD EXIST: UNIVERSE ( TIME SPACE MATERIA) TIME ( PRESENT PAST FUTURE) STATE (3) LIFE EGG (3 PART ) WATER (H2O) BLOOD (3)
OCEAN (3) HUMAN ( BODY SOUL SPIRIT) LIGHT 300.IOOO KM 1 SECOND ) HEAVEN SUN MOON STARS...GOD IS TRINITY !!!! ONE GOD DIFFERENT WAY !!!!
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