why do you think Palpatine didn't know? Remember Darth Momin and his mask? Vader probably learned this technique from him and Vader got Momin's mask from Sidious
@Jaegar19Ultima He tried in legends and disney canon, to different grades of success, but it seems like cloning a force sensitive being isn't easy, and it is way harder to move their "soul" to that body.
Sadly, Disney needs to keep this franchise going for a good 4 or 5 more years or so if they want to recoup all the money they spent buying this franchise, and portraying Kreia's philosophy as potentially valid hurts the brand, so even though Verla is objectively right, she's portrayed as an uptight cynic. If you question the force, you question the jedi. If you question the jedi, you question yourself IRL on why you're wasting money on buying plastic light sabers
Kreia: I trained two, no, three of the greatest and most powerful Sith lords of all time and almost destroyed the Force itself. Disney: yeahhhhhhhhhh you aren't canon. Kreia: *Apathy is death.*
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 Did George Lucas or Disney intend on portraying the force as evil? No. Has the force, which is a sentient being with its own will, been responsible for every galactic war in the story? Yes. The force turns people into jedi and sith to create "balance". Balance = eternal warfare = eternal bloodshed
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 the dark side of the force is still part of the force. The idea that emotions like rage, passion, and everything else the sith represent are corrupt and unnatural is Jedi propaganda. The idea that eradicating the sith will bring "balance" is Jedi propaganda. Anikan was the chosen one of the force, and do you know how he brought "balance"? By genociding the Jedi. The force doesn't want to get rid of sith. It wants there to be an equal amount of Jedi and Sith in the galaxy who are destined to fight each other endlessly, leading to countless casualties of the nonforce users caught in the crossfire
@@hwatooo9498 thank you for taking the time to read this obscure argument. Refer the last two sentences of my previous comment. According to the lore, the force determines the fates of those who are connected to it. It guides people down the path of sith or jedi or neither, giving everyone the illusion of free will. I'm sure Disney will retcon this so all force wielders have total free will, so that everything can be happy and nice in rainbow land, and my only counterargument is that's less fun for me. I've come to terms with the fact that the darker edgier cosmic horror version of star wars I like is a flakey piece of pseudo canon slowly being smothered out of existence. That's why I've moved on to other things. Maybe Star Wars isn't for me, and that's ok. Maybe Star Wars is for you, and that's also ok. We're all just nerds looking for some entertainment to ease the grind of daily living in the end.
For those of you who watched Rebels this is cool that he’s still alive yet engulfed in the Star destroyer flames, now I know why he said there are far worse things than death.
Yeah I love how they were able to take such a vague quote that Dave put in and made it make sense, you have to wonder if Dave Filoni has the idea for this to happen, but obviously he can’t show that in a kids show so he left it to a comic book to say if so that is truly epic.
In the Xbox version of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, there's an achievement you can get for Vader, called "Worst Day-Shift Manager Ever." That achievement is now canon, as Vader put the Grand Inquisitor on permanent unpaid overtime.
That was literally my first Xbox achievement, and easily my favorite. And not just for the name or the fact that it's icon is a mug depicting a stormtrooper helmet with Xs where the eyes would be behind the proverbial mask.
@TrumpAlwaysWins LearnToAcceptIt Well the guy who did Chads voice did get to voice act Vader for some of the last of the old Starwars games.. so yep.. :)
So what make sense to me is that in Rebels after the Grand Inquisitor granted Kanan the rank of Knight and Vader ransacked the Lothal temple, Vader somehow caught the Grand Inquisitors force spirit and made him the Empire's slave.
I don't believe that was the Inquisitor's true spirit inside the Lothal Temple. Ahsoka and Ezra each had visions of things that weren't actually there. We see Ahsoka encounter a ghostly appearance of Anakin and Vader. We saw Ezra take on the Grand Inquisitor and watched him kill Kanan. I think the spirit we see in the comic is legitimately him, but that Kanan was knighted by a personification of the Force in a familiar setting, using G.Inquisitor as a familiar face and a "Jedi" of sorts.
So I guess this is what the Grand Inquisitor meant by worse than death. He's probably in constant agony since his form is on fire, and you gotta wonder how and big what if, how did Vader capture his spirit? Did he whip out his Poltergust 3000? lol
@General Grievous Jedi had a literal soul prison, containing at least one totally innocent spirit for (accidentally) learning sensitive Republic data. The sheer bureaucracy somehow makes that more evil than this.
General Grievous you do know that the old republic isn’t canon anymore right? If the new writers are going to use elements from that era then they need to explain it themselves, not rely on the reader to go through what is basically now fan fiction in order to understand key plot points.
Purple Emerald not really. They retconned it so they could do it their own way with their own stories. They couldn’t do that if they had to keep those old stories
Heres some interesting food for thought. In season 2 of Star Wars Rebels, the Grand Inquisitor's spirit already returned (conjured by yoda). In that episode, the inquisitor had been redeemed and helped by completing Kanan's training and defeating the fifth brother and seventh sister so the rebels could escape. Pablo Hidalgo confirmed that Yoda conjured the spirit. This raises some questions. Dis Vader enslave the inquisitor after Yoda brought him back? Was the inquisitor enslaved prior to season 2 and briefly liberated by yoda? I'm looking forward to learning more about this unique force ghost.
@@JohannesPetrusI But how was Vader than capable of capturing the Grand Inquisitor if he wasn't a force-ghost? Vader and Sidious couldn't resurrect people from the death (if they could than Vader would certainly be with Padme and his Mother).
We know that Sith can't become force ghosts, but they CAN bind their spirits to objects, Momin's mask, for example. They can also tether themselves to locations of great dark side power, such as they did on Korriban. But the Inquisitor is no Sith, just a Dark Jedi. We don't know what the rules are for them.
Seems he’s not a Force Ghost nor a Sith Spirit The Grand Inquisitor’s soul was bound to guard the outpost against his will, by Vader Actually shows how powerful Vader is to manipulate the dead like that unless he had help from Palpatine
Rarely did we get to see Vader or Anakin practice the more mystical or intangible aspects of the force, It's nice to showcase his understanding of the force instead of only wielding it like a weapon.
It may be an echo of his spirit bound to Tempes, or simply an illusion. It looks a lot like Darth Bane's "spirit" encountered by Yoda in the Clone Wars.
Verla: The Dark Side or the Light Side, it makes no difference, because in the end the Jedi & Sith are nothing but tools being used by the Force. Traya/Kreia: There is no truth in the Force. But there is truth in you, exile. And that is why I chose you.
I kinda hate that they are trying to drive it that Luke in TLJ was right and that the force uses and does you wrong by being a jedi But the EU decades ago set up Luke being different, understanding the biasses of the jedi and reshaping it all to become BETTER The new canon clearly can't understand that people can understand mistakes and become better and not bitter out
Much like how the Grand Inquisitor is now being used as a tool for Vader's purposes, Galen Marik was used to bring together the Rebel leaders. And when his task was complete, Vader had no more use for him. But that's nothing compared to how Vader himself is also being used as a tool himself by Palpatine, wether he knows it or not. Talk about irony.
I like the idea that The Grand Inquisitor was able to become a force ghost because of his life as a gray force-wielder, and as an Inquisitor he created an entirely new version of it
@Gabriel Amadej You make great points, but the fact that most fans didn't like it, means it's "wrong". We are paying customers, are we not? I only say that because SW is owned by a corporation, now.
I wonder if the Grand Inquisitor was ever set free. Was he free after Vader's death? Did a Jedi have mercy on him, and freed him somehow? Did he stay there forever?
I think when The Grand Inquisitior died his spirit split into 2. The light side that we say in Rebels and the dark side that we see now. In early drafts of Episode 7 Anakin was the same way where he split into Anakin and Darth Vader. That's what have me the idea.
I wonder if he will “retire” the yellow saber, like store it somewhere or if he will lose it or it be destroyed. Be cool if it’s just stored somewhere whenever he felt he could build his own.
He needs a blue crystal to add to the yellow. I wonder if he'll find his own piece of colorless kyber or if he'll re-purpose another saber. His RotJ hilt does imitate Obi-Wan's (although I'd prefer he do his own construction). Starting over with his own green crystal(s) feels like it would be a waste of this arc...unless the yellow gets tucked away for some other future force-user. Although I'm one of those who'd be happy to leave the Disney!trilogy its own thing. But it's also worth noting that in RotJ Luke says, "I no longer use yours [Anakin's lightsaber]." So maybe in comic!canon he will eventually reunite with Anakin's lightsaber pre-RotJ and perhaps borrow a crystal. That might be too complicated though considering the Skywalker lightsaber's future....
Pos return of the jedi Luke become the stronger force user(yeah more than Palps and Yoda) ever so It would be really interesting Knowing more about his father, mother, Kenobi Ahsoka
Definitely. "I hate the Force, I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some measure of balance when countless lives are lost". - Kreia (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II)
10:45 In the background when Luke ignites his yellow blade.. Look it's that Jedi master that escaped from order 66 to hide as a server of food on the Death star.. He's still alive..... (Pray that no one ordered the Calamari).... Sorry couldn't help myself.. :D
I LOVED this comic, it shows how strong Luke was during this time, with little training he bested the grand inquisitor, who was stated (Word of God) to be almost equal to ventress (who could murk grevious when giving into the dark side in the clone wars), it just gives a really clear and nice scale for Luke during this time, making it easier to scale his progress, as well as Vader during this time.
Really, I was happier assuming he was dead...........poor, poor Grand Inquisitor. I wonder how Kanan would react seeing his nemesis this way, especially after dueling a vision version of him created by Yoda. I wonder how they'd interact.,....
Wow, so that line about there being worse things than death he said before jumping off that bridge after his fight with Kanan wasn't just a little philosophical one liner, it was actually referring to this all along. What a way to tie things up.
Ok, this new force ability to trap the spirit of someone feels the most like a Legends force power compared to everything else I've seen Disney put out.
So, this takes place after the battle in Cloud City, and explains where Luke gets the crystal and key components for what would become his Green light sabre, yes?
So I guess in rebels when kanan fought him in the temple and he thanked him for having returned to his guardianship that was just the temple being fancy? Good to know.
It’s brutal, it’s tough seeing this as the actual Luke Skywalker after the last Jedi, his character just seems so unlikable now. It’s insane what that movie has done
I agree, a lot of people belive Rise of Skywalker Is the worst movie of the Trilogy, but I really felt betrayed after the last Jedi. I never saw a movie demolishing a character like TLJ did with Luke
They’re gonna have to explain this Grand Inquisitor thing. This is jacked up & will eat at me until I know how & why he’s suddenly trapped here after his spirit was in the Jedi temple in Lothal & trained Kanan & helped them all escape. Ahhhhh! Why do they do this to us???!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😂🤣😂🤣
This version of Luke is amazing! He is so hopeful and passionate about the Jedi! I wish we can see more of him! I’d follow him anywhere if I was in the Star Wars universe! :)
Luke never swung at Ben, though? He ignited his lightsaber on defensive instinct when he sensed that Ben would destroy literally everything he had built and grown to love (which, hey, turned out to be entirely accurate), and even then, he immediately felt shame and regret for even having the instinct to violently defend the life he'd built over the decades. Seriously, can people please stop going on about this and acting like Kylo Ren's version of events is what actually happened?
Maybe they found the inquisitors body still partially alive, and it got imprinted on an object like momin was imprinted...I mean, Vader should know all about force impression at this point.
I was thinking the same thing. It's kind of ironic isn't it? The Grand Inquisitor's "return" here, and his interaction with Vader makes him out to be a literal ghost. Which really confuses things. Because that was the very arc of the Clone Wars that straight up established that because the Sith are not spiritual, they cannot exist after death in a spiritual way. (I know, Inquisitor, not Sith.) The Jedi are only able to because they are spiritual, and can use the Light Side of the Force.
@@mitchellhayward6492 that's the thing - Old Republic sith could essentially enslave the spirits of recently-deceased force users, like Vader did with the Grand Inquisitor.
"One quickly learns that the Jedi Code does not give all the answers. If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea." ―Kreia
now i understand what the grand inquisitor meant that there are things far more frightening than death but still though, if he is over there how was he there in the jedi temple on lothal where he knighted kanan? weird right?
The Grand Inquisitor here reminds me of the Nightsister spirits and their alter. The Grand Inquisitor seems to be on a plain between life and death similar to Mother Talzin was when she dissolved into the spirit realm, but the difference is that while he has control over when he appears to some degree, he is trapped/bound to the outpost like the sisters to the alter.
@@CyberController- he was nowhere near Tempess when he died, Bane's soul at least has a place he relates to (his coffin of course) But we'll have to wait for the official info
Dark side necromancy, it has similarities with the use of alchemy or ichor of Nighsisters, but it's the thing of Momin or maybe also Darth Bane. It's like selling soul to other being, making an eternal bond with something or someone. Then the soul can be consumed or used as servitor, famulus. Dark side stuff...
It's like with Lord Momin in the 2017 Vader comics. He's not so much a genuine Force Ghost so much as he is s consciousness bound to an item, or in this case a building.
In legends at least some Sith can preserve their consciousness As spirits Marka Ragnos is a famous example However a Sith Ghost is different from a Force Ghost To be a Force Ghost one must embrace death and preserve their consciousness after becoming one with the Force A Sith Force Ghost is one who resists death and separates from becoming one with the Force, to prevent losing their individuality, not able to find peace being separated from the Force as a whole Even if Palpatine was a ghost he would f be able to do much without a body In legends Palpatine resisted death any way he could, and used younger Clone Bodies of himself. The one thing TROS got right was Palpatine transferring his soul to clones to preserve his life in the physical world and be a threat
5th and dark side of the force users tend to be able to have a way past death but it usually requires them to imbibe themselves into an artifact like moment with his helmet and other sith with old sith swords and armor pieces and even talismans but it's like pretty much creating a cursed item and not so much their actual embodiment if any of this makes sense to you they pretty much require some outside force to manifest as opposed to a Jedi who can literally just manifest as a force ghost especially on planets that are very in tune with the light side of the force
@@christophersanchez7731 yeah. Other Legends examples would be Naga Sadow and Valkorian/Tenebrae/Darth Vitiate. Both were able to manifest as spirits, but unlike true Force Ghosts they could only interact with the physical world by possessing a body or other such vessel. The 2017 Vader comic also has Lord Momin, who only maintained himself by binding his soul to his helmet, which could be a similar principle to how the Grand Inquisitor was bound to the outpost by Vader.
He's not alive. He appears to be permanently caught in a state of undeath. His body reformed after being struck down by Luke. He's clearly not a fully corporeal being. My speculation is that Vader used the knowledge he gained from Lord Momin to permanently freeze the Grand Inquisitor's soul in the moment of its death (as Momin had intended to do to the population of an entire planet), and then bound that soul to the Jedi outpost on Tempes as a trap for any wayward or wannabe Jedi.
After watching the mandalorian season 2 trailer and what looks like I search for Jedi. It would be neat if this woman appeared in an episode of the mandalorian, it would only be roughly 7 years in the future so she would be alive still unless she’s been killed.
I like how Vader discovered how to make people immortal, but he never told Palpatine.
Adrian Simonsen this isn’t any kind of immortality that palpatine would want. Tied to an object or place and not flesh and blood
@@davidpitts5851 true
why do you think Palpatine didn't know? Remember Darth Momin and his mask? Vader probably learned this technique from him and Vader got Momin's mask from Sidious
@Jaegar19Ultima He tried in legends and disney canon, to different grades of success, but it seems like cloning a force sensitive being isn't easy, and it is way harder to move their "soul" to that body.
@@davidpitts5851 Palpatine wouldn't even care.
The Grand Inquisitors haunting finale words on the doomed Star Destroyer come true. Dude wasn't lying.
Yeah haha yeah
he said "there are things worse than death" meaning vader's wrath... he thought if he died he could get off easy, but nope! vader had other ideas
Luke: "I don't kill defenseless, unconscious people"
Kylo Ren: "LIAR!"
Wait how old was Kylo when that happened?
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Idk late teens, early 20s?
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The sequels were just a bad dream of Luke’s, caused by a bout of indigestion. So Kylo Ren never existed
Luke: "i don't kill unconscious defensless people, howewer, if the motherfu***r is having a bad dream he has to die."
Verla: "The force uses people."
Kreia: "Ah. So you have finally learned the truth."
Sadly, Disney needs to keep this franchise going for a good 4 or 5 more years or so if they want to recoup all the money they spent buying this franchise, and portraying Kreia's philosophy as potentially valid hurts the brand, so even though Verla is objectively right, she's portrayed as an uptight cynic. If you question the force, you question the jedi. If you question the jedi, you question yourself IRL on why you're wasting money on buying plastic light sabers
Kreia: I trained two, no, three of the greatest and most powerful Sith lords of all time and almost destroyed the Force itself.
Disney: yeahhhhhhhhhh you aren't canon.
Kreia: *Apathy is death.*
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 Did George Lucas or Disney intend on portraying the force as evil? No. Has the force, which is a sentient being with its own will, been responsible for every galactic war in the story? Yes. The force turns people into jedi and sith to create "balance". Balance = eternal warfare = eternal bloodshed
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 the dark side of the force is still part of the force. The idea that emotions like rage, passion, and everything else the sith represent are corrupt and unnatural is Jedi propaganda. The idea that eradicating the sith will bring "balance" is Jedi propaganda. Anikan was the chosen one of the force, and do you know how he brought "balance"? By genociding the Jedi. The force doesn't want to get rid of sith. It wants there to be an equal amount of Jedi and Sith in the galaxy who are destined to fight each other endlessly, leading to countless casualties of the nonforce users caught in the crossfire
@@hwatooo9498 thank you for taking the time to read this obscure argument. Refer the last two sentences of my previous comment. According to the lore, the force determines the fates of those who are connected to it. It guides people down the path of sith or jedi or neither, giving everyone the illusion of free will. I'm sure Disney will retcon this so all force wielders have total free will, so that everything can be happy and nice in rainbow land, and my only counterargument is that's less fun for me. I've come to terms with the fact that the darker edgier cosmic horror version of star wars I like is a flakey piece of pseudo canon slowly being smothered out of existence. That's why I've moved on to other things. Maybe Star Wars isn't for me, and that's ok. Maybe Star Wars is for you, and that's also ok. We're all just nerds looking for some entertainment to ease the grind of daily living in the end.
For those of you who watched Rebels this is cool that he’s still alive yet engulfed in the Star destroyer flames, now I know why he said there are far worse things than death.
Yeah I love how they were able to take such a vague quote that Dave put in and made it make sense, you have to wonder if Dave Filoni has the idea for this to happen, but obviously he can’t show that in a kids show so he left it to a comic book to say if so that is truly epic.
it’s still weird right? like the grand inquisitor pulled off a palpatine
In the Xbox version of Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, there's an achievement you can get for Vader, called "Worst Day-Shift Manager Ever."
That achievement is now canon, as Vader put the Grand Inquisitor on permanent unpaid overtime.
That was literally my first Xbox achievement, and easily my favorite. And not just for the name or the fact that it's icon is a mug depicting a stormtrooper helmet with Xs where the eyes would be behind the proverbial mask.
Lol
@TrumpAlwaysWins LearnToAcceptIt Well the guy who did Chads voice did get to voice act Vader for some of the last of the old Starwars games.. so yep.. :)
@TrumpAlwaysWins LearnToAcceptIt He did Vader in Force Unleashed 1 and 2. As well as Soul calibur IV apparantly.. :)
I bet the Jedi ghosts that might be at the outpost are laughing at him.
So what make sense to me is that in Rebels after the Grand Inquisitor granted Kanan the rank of Knight and Vader ransacked the Lothal temple, Vader somehow caught the Grand Inquisitors force spirit and made him the Empire's slave.
I don't believe that was the Inquisitor's true spirit inside the Lothal Temple.
Ahsoka and Ezra each had visions of things that weren't actually there. We
see Ahsoka encounter a ghostly appearance of Anakin and Vader. We saw
Ezra take on the Grand Inquisitor and watched him kill Kanan. I think the spirit
we see in the comic is legitimately him, but that Kanan was knighted
by a personification of the Force in a familiar setting, using G.Inquisitor as a
familiar face and a "Jedi" of sorts.
OfficialOpinion agreed, they were as much as a vision as Darth bane was to Yoda , it seems realistic which is the point
OfficialOpinion Maybe it is that in Lothal temple was his good spiryt and vader has This bad spirit
Again...
Yoda conjured up the vision of the grand inquisitor when he was a Jedi
So I guess this is what the Grand Inquisitor meant by worse than death. He's probably in constant agony since his form is on fire, and you gotta wonder how and big what if, how did Vader capture his spirit? Did he whip out his Poltergust 3000? lol
@General Grievous Jedi had a literal soul prison, containing at least one totally innocent spirit for (accidentally) learning sensitive Republic data. The sheer bureaucracy somehow makes that more evil than this.
I doubt he would have killed himself if he knew this is what awaited him.
Vader didn’t want to be the only one to have been cooked
General Grievous you do know that the old republic isn’t canon anymore right? If the new writers are going to use elements from that era then they need to explain it themselves, not rely on the reader to go through what is basically now fan fiction in order to understand key plot points.
Purple Emerald not really. They retconned it so they could do it their own way with their own stories. They couldn’t do that if they had to keep those old stories
Ah so the inquisitors were not a complete failure. Good they shall continue to be of use for my plan. Great vid!
What do you plan to do your greatness?
@@bin8350 I will use them as pawns to kill the jedi
@UCm1dRHxXTKTqcjSZ_rDvoCQyou are the chosen one
@@papasheev2691 ah fam do y'all have taco Tuesday if I join y'all
I thought the grand inquisitor became one with the force. Didn’t he show up in rebels?
I like that they’re finally having Luke battle other dark side users besides Darth Vader, like in the EU.
I think there should have still been a few INquisitors around for Luke to fight in canon. Maybe 4 or so of them and Luke defeats them.
@@ironinquisitor3656 agreed, it’s weird how quickly they seem to get wiped out so soon after their creation
@@brandonellington7667 That's so true. A new Inquisitor get introduced and then they become cannon fodder.
They were created in 18BBY so they were around 20 Years.
Heres some interesting food for thought.
In season 2 of Star Wars Rebels, the Grand Inquisitor's spirit already returned (conjured by yoda). In that episode, the inquisitor had been redeemed and helped by completing Kanan's training and defeating the fifth brother and seventh sister so the rebels could escape. Pablo Hidalgo confirmed that Yoda conjured the spirit.
This raises some questions. Dis Vader enslave the inquisitor after Yoda brought him back? Was the inquisitor enslaved prior to season 2 and briefly liberated by yoda? I'm looking forward to learning more about this unique force ghost.
that is exactly what i was about to ask myself....
Filoni said somewhere that the vision of the Grand Inquisitor in Rebels was created by Yoda, not a true redemption
@@JohannesPetrusI But how was Vader than capable of capturing the Grand Inquisitor if he wasn't a force-ghost?
Vader and Sidious couldn't resurrect people from the death (if they could than Vader would certainly be with Padme and his Mother).
We know that Sith can't become force ghosts, but they CAN bind their spirits to objects, Momin's mask, for example. They can also tether themselves to locations of great dark side power, such as they did on Korriban. But the Inquisitor is no Sith, just a Dark Jedi. We don't know what the rules are for them.
Maybe his ghost was splittet? like revan? a dark side ghost and a light side ghost
Seems he’s not a Force Ghost nor a Sith Spirit
The Grand Inquisitor’s soul was bound to guard the outpost against his will, by Vader
Actually shows how powerful Vader is to manipulate the dead like that unless he had help from Palpatine
I know right. Vader truly is Sith
no one can like it keep it a 69
Rarely did we get to see Vader or Anakin practice the more mystical or intangible aspects of the force, It's nice to showcase his understanding of the force instead of only wielding it like a weapon.
It may be an echo of his spirit bound to Tempes, or simply an illusion. It looks a lot like Darth Bane's "spirit" encountered by Yoda in the Clone Wars.
@@christianyaerger1751 An illusion or echo would be begging for its freedom. Nor would Vader waste time conversing with either.
Grand inquisitor: Burning on fire all over his body
Vader: First time huh?
Verla: The Dark Side or the Light Side, it makes no difference, because in the end the Jedi & Sith are nothing but tools being used by the Force.
Traya/Kreia: There is no truth in the Force. But there is truth in you, exile. And that is why I chose you.
It’s like Dr Dre said: “guess whose back”
It was eminem but sure
Crazy Crazy lol go look at the lyrics of “Still DRE”
@@sebas.4697 EM said it too in a few different Songs. For example "Without me"
Boba?
"back again"
Luke gets attacked the grand inquistor
Vader miles away:TURN THIS SHIP AROUND.
Luke using a jedi temple guard saber is 10/10 awesome
did it belong to Grand Inquisitor?
@@jasonle9596 no
I hope the Grand Inquisitor is in the sequel to Jedi Fallen Order!
Me too.
@The Nova renaissance Agreed. Because of that I've created a few cool fan-made Inquisitors.
Wouldn't he be dead at that point?
@@ghettti- No, Jedi Fallen Order takes place about 10 years before Star Wars Rebels.
@@alecvetter807 is that confirmed? And even tho, I don't think they would put a main antagonist who we know is not going to survive the story
Ladies and Gentlemen: Marvel's New Ghost Rider. Seriously, Can someone give him a fire extinguiser?
Whos gonna ride his " blazing" helisaber then?
I kinda hate that they are trying to drive it that Luke in TLJ was right and that the force uses and does you wrong by being a jedi
But the EU decades ago set up Luke being different, understanding the biasses of the jedi and reshaping it all to become BETTER
The new canon clearly can't understand that people can understand mistakes and become better and not bitter out
Verla reminds me of Nancy Regan and her "just say no" campaign.
This is your brain 🥚
This is ur brain on the force🍳
Just say no to death sticks
I knew the D.A.R.E program was right
I feel bad for the grand inquisitor
yea me too. good thing he finally redeemed himself and help kanan in sw rebels
@@ikanhiu8906 yes however, this comic takes place after Rebels, so it seems that Grand Inquisitor's fate may not be that pleasant
Yeah I do too
@@ikanhiu8906 not exactly
Thank you bro
Luke: “I don’t kill defenceless, unconscious people in their sleep!”
Rian Johnson: *press x for doubt*
Decades can change a lot to a man
@@SlowWinterNuts lame excuse
@@joseluis5055 he didn’t try and kill him tho, he never even swung at him
Seeing a true Skywalker hold that yellow saber makes me really happy.
verla: "you either die a jedi or live long enough to see yourself become sith"
Much like how the Grand Inquisitor is now being used as a tool for Vader's purposes, Galen Marik was used to bring together the Rebel leaders. And when his task was complete, Vader had no more use for him.
But that's nothing compared to how Vader himself is also being used as a tool himself by Palpatine, wether he knows it or not. Talk about irony.
I like the idea that The Grand Inquisitor was able to become a force ghost because of his life as a gray force-wielder, and as an Inquisitor he created an entirely new version of it
He Dosent swing at defenceless people but atttempted to kill his nephew in his sleep . Ironic
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Vader should have appeared to Kylo just like he did ro Cade Skywalker in Legends.
But damn, he really said "i don't kill defenseless UNCONSCIOUS people" jesus Disney, what have you done? 😂
@Gabriel Amadej You make great points, but the fact that most fans didn't like it, means it's "wrong". We are paying customers, are we not? I only say that because SW is owned by a corporation, now.
And he nearly killed his father in his rage in ROTJ
Matt Emm lol vader weren’t trying
I wonder if the Grand Inquisitor was ever set free. Was he free after Vader's death? Did a Jedi have mercy on him, and freed him somehow? Did he stay there forever?
Charles Soule is a master at foreshadowing so we'll find out
I hope there would be a comic where old Luke return and set free the Grand Inquisitor
So I’m assuming that Vader “planted” this vision in Luke’s head in order to lure him to Tempest?
No or else Vader wouldn't have communicated with his spirit. It's him, he's actually "alive".
@@greenbean2222 That, and Vader would have been waiting for him at Tempest rather than changing his mind mid-order elsewhere upon sensing the battle.
Vader has the grand Inquisitor soul trapped on that planet specifically in that archive
Verla's starting to think like Kreia in the old EU.
I think when The Grand Inquisitior died his spirit split into 2. The light side that we say in Rebels and the dark side that we see now. In early drafts of Episode 7 Anakin was the same way where he split into Anakin and Darth Vader. That's what have me the idea.
So I guess the original Luke Skywalker action figure is now canon.
Now we need to see him go from yellow lightsaber to green
I've been waiting for that for so long honestly. I'd be happy to see him collect his hilt pieces to be honest.
Deleted scene from Return of the Jedi shows Luke building the Green Saber.
I wonder if he will “retire” the yellow saber, like store it somewhere or if he will lose it or it be destroyed. Be cool if it’s just stored somewhere whenever he felt he could build his own.
He needs a blue crystal to add to the yellow. I wonder if he'll find his own piece of colorless kyber or if he'll re-purpose another saber. His RotJ hilt does imitate Obi-Wan's (although I'd prefer he do his own construction). Starting over with his own green crystal(s) feels like it would be a waste of this arc...unless the yellow gets tucked away for some other future force-user. Although I'm one of those who'd be happy to leave the Disney!trilogy its own thing. But it's also worth noting that in RotJ Luke says, "I no longer use yours [Anakin's lightsaber]." So maybe in comic!canon he will eventually reunite with Anakin's lightsaber pre-RotJ and perhaps borrow a crystal. That might be too complicated though considering the Skywalker lightsaber's future....
@@e.l.c.2322 Well what if Rey is the one that got the crystal from Luke at the temple and that's why she has the yellow one now.
4:18
"At last you understand" - Kreia
So the Grand Inquisitor burned alive, redeemed himself through the force then was forcibly unredeemed by Vader, cool.
Who else wishes that luke could have a tv show showing what happened leading up to return of the jedi?
Before Episode 4: Farming, before Epsiode 5: doing Rebel stuff, before Episode 6: Doing Rebel stuff while waiting for Lando and Chewie
Pos return of the jedi
Luke become the stronger force user(yeah more than Palps and Yoda) ever so
It would be really interesting
Knowing more about his father, mother, Kenobi
Ahsoka
”There are worse things than death”
STRAIGHT OUT OF F--- STAR WARS REBELS!!
Gehenna
Was anyone getting Kreia vibes from Virlla ?
Definitely.
"I hate the Force, I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some measure of balance when countless lives are lost". - Kreia (Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II)
Maybe she could be a descendant of kreia, or maybe she got her hands on a Sith holocron that had a part of Kreia's life force in it.
Maybe a less evil version of Kreia.
I have a strong feeling that Filloni had a hand in that reference.
@General Grievous didn't know that. I thought she still was, damn.
10:45 In the background when Luke ignites his yellow blade.. Look it's that Jedi master that escaped from order 66 to hide as a server of food on the Death star.. He's still alive..... (Pray that no one ordered the Calamari).... Sorry couldn't help myself.. :D
Wow, Verla understood the philosophy of Kreia surprisingly well for one who never fully walked either the Jedi or Sith paths. Impressive!
I LOVED this comic, it shows how strong Luke was during this time, with little training he bested the grand inquisitor, who was stated (Word of God) to be almost equal to ventress (who could murk grevious when giving into the dark side in the clone wars), it just gives a really clear and nice scale for Luke during this time, making it easier to scale his progress, as well as Vader during this time.
Vader manipulating the souls of the dead just added a badass dark side power to his arsenal
“So strap on” poor choice of words friends.
“There are some things far more frightening then death.”
I would love to see the Grand Inquisitor in another comic
Really, I was happier assuming he was dead...........poor, poor Grand Inquisitor. I wonder how Kanan would react seeing his nemesis this way, especially after dueling a vision version of him created by Yoda. I wonder how they'd interact.,....
I love that. He's basically trapped in the fires he fell into in Rebels. Forever tormented to feel the flames burning his skin and body apart.
Verla’s belief seem like a precedent for Lucasfilm to recanonize Darth Kraya, her hatred for the force qmd her love for The Exile
Wow, so that line about there being worse things than death he said before jumping off that bridge after his fight with Kanan wasn't just a little philosophical one liner, it was actually referring to this all along. What a way to tie things up.
Even though he was an Inquisitor, I still think he deserved better.
These are the kind of stories that the live action star wars needs
The Grand Inquisitor is actually pretty cool, wish he had more screen time
that guy with a long neck in the background at 10:48 has the best facial expression i've ever seen
Ok, this new force ability to trap the spirit of someone feels the most like a Legends force power compared to everything else I've seen Disney put out.
"You have no idea what you've unleashed here today. There are some things far worse than death" this is what he meant and he was not lying
Man I wished Kanan Jarrus would’ve atleast appeared
Ikr?
Her: THE FORCE IT'S A TRICK
Luke: Ok but where can I get a lightsabber?
So, this takes place after the battle in Cloud City, and explains where Luke gets the crystal and key components for what would become his Green light sabre, yes?
This women is basically a less developed and less experienced version of Kreia who also hated and wanted to destroy the force
this feels kinda Darth Sion esc just in the opposite way. Sion stayed alive thru rage, it looks like the grand inquisiter stays alive thru suffering
Im glad they made the Grand Inquisitor remain "alive"
R2D2 is the real hero. He's saved the day way more times than any other character in Star Wars.
The sequel movies really did dirt to Luke, the comics should stay away from the events for that
So I guess in rebels when kanan fought him in the temple and he thanked him for having returned to his guardianship that was just the temple being fancy? Good to know.
Ikr
Exactly
Verla sounds like Diet Kriea
It’s brutal, it’s tough seeing this as the actual Luke Skywalker after the last Jedi, his character just seems so unlikable now. It’s insane what that movie has done
I agree, a lot of people belive Rise of Skywalker Is the worst movie of the Trilogy, but I really felt betrayed after the last Jedi. I never saw a movie demolishing a character like TLJ did with Luke
@@paolopesare3566 *Worst Star wars movie of All Time
Plot Twist: Luke had still been wet when he was shocked by R2, therefore dying due to electric shock
They’re gonna have to explain this Grand Inquisitor thing. This is jacked up & will eat at me until I know how & why he’s suddenly trapped here after his spirit was in the Jedi temple in Lothal & trained Kanan & helped them all escape. Ahhhhh! Why do they do this to us???!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 😂🤣😂🤣
What happened in the Lothal temple was a vision, none of that was real
Luke with a yellow lightsaber? That’s awesome!!
I wish more characters would have yellow sabers
This version of Luke is amazing! He is so hopeful and passionate about the Jedi! I wish we can see more of him! I’d follow him anywhere if I was in the Star Wars universe! :)
“There are fates worse than death.”
Defenless people ?? Baa he be swing at sleeping people and still fails
I do not consider the sequel version of Luke as canon.
Luke never swung at Ben, though? He ignited his lightsaber on defensive instinct when he sensed that Ben would destroy literally everything he had built and grown to love (which, hey, turned out to be entirely accurate), and even then, he immediately felt shame and regret for even having the instinct to violently defend the life he'd built over the decades. Seriously, can people please stop going on about this and acting like Kylo Ren's version of events is what actually happened?
"Thier are far more worse things than death." - Grand Inquisitior to Caleb Dun
Maybe they found the inquisitors body still partially alive, and it got imprinted on an object like momin was imprinted...I mean, Vader should know all about force impression at this point.
So we've gotten to the Marvel/DC point where everybody cam be recycled for future comics and the deaths don't matter?
Verla feels like the missing piece that linked Luke to his stage as a reclusive hermit
The Grand Inquisitor looks a lot like the "spirit" illusion of Darth Bane encountered by Yoda during the Clone Wars.
I was thinking the same thing. It's kind of ironic isn't it?
The Grand Inquisitor's "return" here, and his interaction with Vader makes him out to be a literal ghost. Which really confuses things.
Because that was the very arc of the Clone Wars that straight up established that because the Sith are not spiritual, they cannot exist after death in a spiritual way. (I know, Inquisitor, not Sith.) The Jedi are only able to because they are spiritual, and can use the Light Side of the Force.
@@mitchellhayward6492 that's the thing - Old Republic sith could essentially enslave the spirits of recently-deceased force users, like Vader did with the Grand Inquisitor.
7:40 i love it when shuttles board darth vader
Thank you Bessy!
Hello there
Hello Anakin!
"One quickly learns that the Jedi Code does not give all the answers. If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single idea."
―Kreia
Let’s dive into it! (Luke Skywalker is currently rescued by R2D2 in water)
Damn, the grand inquisetor is victim to some dark sith sorcery.
Still hyped to see Luke go through his trials.
Verla reminds me of Kreia. Both hate the Force, suffered and had to hide because of it. They even look sorta similiar
now i understand what the grand inquisitor meant that there are things far more frightening than death but still though, if he is over there how was he there in the jedi temple on lothal where he knighted kanan? weird right?
Year old comment but that version of the Grand Inquisitor wasn't real, it was just a vision conjured by Yoda.
8:55 man they don't even give him the sharp teeth anymore
This would explain where Leia got her yellow crystal in Ep 9....if only it were canon.....
I forgot she had a yellow one.
"Somehow, the Grand Inquisitor returned!"
Thanks so much for making these! Your voice is really good for comic reading by the way!
The Grand Inquisitor here reminds me of the Nightsister spirits and their alter. The Grand Inquisitor seems to be on a plain between life and death similar to Mother Talzin was when she dissolved into the spirit realm, but the difference is that while he has control over when he appears to some degree, he is trapped/bound to the outpost like the sisters to the alter.
I wanna know how can somebody bring back spirits from the dead, I hope Disney explains it someday
Maybe his spirit is bound to the temple, like how Bane's spirit was bound to his coffin.
@@CyberController- he was nowhere near Tempess when he died, Bane's soul at least has a place he relates to (his coffin of course) But we'll have to wait for the official info
Dark side necromancy, it has similarities with the use of alchemy or ichor of Nighsisters, but it's the thing of Momin or maybe also Darth Bane. It's like selling soul to other being, making an eternal bond with something or someone. Then the soul can be consumed or used as servitor, famulus. Dark side stuff...
They don’t know either.
Ah yes just like Darth Trays, questioning why the force must be a thing...
Except she took the lazy way out. Apathy is death.
Wait, hold up: a dark side force ghost? If dark side force ghosts can be a thing, why didn't they just make Palpatine a ghost in TROS 🤦
This one apparently can only exist as a slave to the living Dark Side user that summoned them. Not really the same as actual Force Ghosts.
It's like with Lord Momin in the 2017 Vader comics. He's not so much a genuine Force Ghost so much as he is s consciousness bound to an item, or in this case a building.
In legends at least some Sith can preserve their consciousness As spirits
Marka Ragnos is a famous example
However a Sith Ghost is different from a Force Ghost
To be a Force Ghost one must embrace death and preserve their consciousness after becoming one with the Force
A Sith Force Ghost is one who resists death and separates from becoming one with the Force, to prevent losing their individuality, not able to find peace being separated from the Force as a whole
Even if Palpatine was a ghost he would f be able to do much without a body
In legends Palpatine resisted death any way he could, and used younger Clone Bodies of himself. The one thing TROS got right was Palpatine transferring his soul to clones to preserve his life in the physical world and be a threat
5th and dark side of the force users tend to be able to have a way past death but it usually requires them to imbibe themselves into an artifact like moment with his helmet and other sith with old sith swords and armor pieces and even talismans but it's like pretty much creating a cursed item and not so much their actual embodiment if any of this makes sense to you they pretty much require some outside force to manifest as opposed to a Jedi who can literally just manifest as a force ghost especially on planets that are very in tune with the light side of the force
@@christophersanchez7731 yeah. Other Legends examples would be Naga Sadow and Valkorian/Tenebrae/Darth Vitiate. Both were able to manifest as spirits, but unlike true Force Ghosts they could only interact with the physical world by possessing a body or other such vessel.
The 2017 Vader comic also has Lord Momin, who only maintained himself by binding his soul to his helmet, which could be a similar principle to how the Grand Inquisitor was bound to the outpost by Vader.
If he's in constant pain, that reminds me of how Vader is in constant pain with his suit, too
OH, COME ON!!!! HE WAS KILLED BY KANNAN, HE CAN'T BE ALIVE!!!!
he did warn kanan there are worst thing than death, he probably know that dead isn't the end for him
He's not alive. He appears to be permanently caught in a state of undeath. His body reformed after being struck down by Luke. He's clearly not a fully corporeal being. My speculation is that Vader used the knowledge he gained from Lord Momin to permanently freeze the Grand Inquisitor's soul in the moment of its death (as Momin had intended to do to the population of an entire planet), and then bound that soul to the Jedi outpost on Tempes as a trap for any wayward or wannabe Jedi.
The guy behind Calrissian at the end of the comic looks like Star Wars John Travolta.
LMAO 😂 I think that's Poe Dameron's father(I don't remember his name)
After watching the mandalorian season 2 trailer and what looks like I search for Jedi.
It would be neat if this woman appeared in an episode of the mandalorian, it would only be roughly 7 years in the future so she would be alive still unless she’s been killed.
Ah I thought grand inquisitor got redeemed as we saw in rebels
F for the grand inquisitor.
I think him being on fire is a reference to how he died in rebels by falling into the burning hyper-drive