I’ve been in the professional clock movement rebuilding profession for over 55 years and while this video was done well, the procedures done do not mimic a professional restoration. I have restored countless dozens of this and similar movements and will tell you that a major step was eliminated in this video and maybe on purpose for what this video was intended and that is “bushing the worn pivot holes”. This step is crucial if you expect the movement to function for any amount of time. The cleaning method is very hobbyist at best but sufficient for the purpose of this video as a hobby. Professionally done would be in an ultrasonic cleaning machine with the proper solution, rinsed and dried, which brings back the luster to the plates. Using mainspring C ring clamps is more secure and easier but unless the zip strips break, you’re ok. I’m not trying to condemn this persons video but I do want to convey that professionals do a much more extensive, longer lasting repair. I would produce a video in real time of the process but this rebuild would take several hours.
I'm not a professional and this was only the second clock I've ever worked on. For that reason, I wouldn't expect what I did to mimic what a professional would do - I don't have the preferred equipment/tools yet, and I also don't have all the required skills a professional would have. Addressing worn pivot holes is a skill I hope to work on at some point, but wasn't going to practice that skill on this clock that has sentimental value to me. Thanks for your feedback and hope to keep learning and getting better!
Good job you did cleaning and restoring the movement of the 31-day clock to working order. I bet it took a lot of patience and, of course, skill to do it. Great work.
Thank you for making this informative video. I have a similar Korean-made 31 day regulator clock. It still works and keeps good time but I'm sure needs cleaning as it will stop after about 10 days running. I didn't pay a lot for it and certainly don't want to spend $300 or more for professional cleaning and maintenance. You have inspired me to have a go as I'm willing to learn 👍
I have a clock just like this one and love it! It's small but the gong is big!!!! Love the music .... very appropriate and class. Thank you for filming!
Definitely a higher quality 31 days movement and far more better than Chinese 31 days movement’s from 1990’s as plates are made out of aluminum instead of brass.
Just watched your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. I'm just getting into clocks. My wife has just bought a Lincoln wall clock (we live in Lincolnshire). It's got 'Made In China' on the dial. I'll have to hide that!! It's the same mech as yours. It runs slow by approx 5 minutes a day. Raising the pendulum has not helped. The pendulum swings a max of 15mm, end to end. I'm sure it should be more. Think it's on the brink of stopping. Only paid £10 so it'll be getting a strip and clean soon. My first one!! Your video will help lots. Thanks again.
Very cool! This was the first clock I ever worked on, and I didn't do everything quite right. For example, don't use grease or 3-in-1 oil. Take a look at my latest videos like th-cam.com/video/eiPqT4pvU7k/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/rLrG_822iZs/w-d-xo.html for better examples. If you have questions once you get into it, don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for watching!
Running to fast or to slow no matter how much it’s adjusted could either be, it’s turning winter time rapidly causing it to fall out of the beats per minutes needed to keep time, or a sign of worn pivot surfaces.
Thank you for your reply. The minute hand has a rectangular hole in its mounting center which fits over a rectangular arbor on the minute shaft. This prevents an arbitrary rotational placement of the hand before tightening it on the minute shaft.
Got to love the professionals who swoop in telling you what you are doing wrong in non-constructive ways. 🤣 In the amateur field we are all learning and developing skills as we go. One commenter criticized you for not using an ultrasonic cleaner for brightening the plates. If those plates were lacquered, doing it by hand and brush would be better. Also, getting bright plates is really just for cosmetics, so that a customer sees "bright plates", they know you did something. 🤣A tried and true method is just cleaning with kerosene and a good brush. There are many professionals that use this method. It doesn't brighten but it cleans. Matthew Reed does this and he does museum quality conservator restorations on clocks. The professional will charge you $300-500 just to take your movement apart, clean and oil it, without additional repairs added in, which is usually more than the clock is worth, so I don't see anything wrong in learning how to do it yourself. If the old grouches had a modicum of charity in their comments, to encourage people, we could all benefit from the knowledge, and make a nice clock community. ❤
Hey! I've seen some of your videos. Thanks for checking things out here. Yeah, I was surprised about how much I could seemingly set people off in a fit of rage by an amateur clock repair video. I also think there are people that have nothing better to do with their time than to anonymously talk down to random people online just so they can feel a brief sense of superficial superiority and feel better about whatever must be lacking in their life. I spend countless hours on these clocks, editing the videos, and narrating them just for fun and provide the videos for entertainment...nothing to get all upset about, haha. Thanks for watching, and good job on your videos!
Sir, enjoyed the video. I have the same clock, and it is running well at the present. However, the minute hand is about two minutes ahead of the beginning of the chime strike. Can you suggest a way to correct this? Thank you.
I don't know if this is a language translation problem, but it says you lubricate your watch with sewing machine oil. Do you mean your clock? In either case, I don't know if it's safe or not. It's probably best to use the correct product for the correct thing, especially if it's something you care about. If you're just lubricating but not cleaning the old oil off first, then I would think the mechanism will eventually accumulate an abrasive paste of dirt and oil, which will eventually damage the mechanism. Oiling once a year could be fine as long as you're cleaning the old oil and dirt off first, then reapplying the correct amount of oil.
So i have a 31 day regulator korea clock i wineded up the left knob the 2nd one is hard to turn it does chime but how do i get it to work i pusjed the thing at the bottom to go back and forth but it eventually stops does it need to be elevated or how fo i work yhis thing lol
It probably needs to be cleaned, or the clock just needs to be level so there is less beat error. You can watch some of my videos on how to do it or watch some how-tos on other channels.
Not a good practice to use zip ties to restrain the mainspring. I have seen zip ties fail. If this happens the spring will unwind in an explosive forceful manner possibly sending you to the hospital. You should purchase the proper mainspring clamps. You could get away with this for years, or the next clock you service could blow up as zip tie fails. Ive even seen brand new zip ties where you tighten them and then the center tab that holds them comes loose.
I don't think there were any markings on the movement itself. I would have thought there would have been something. The clock says Made in Korea though. Thanks for watching!
I have the exact same clock that I got at an antique store for $75, 10 or so years ago. It works very well. Do you know the history of its manufacturing? I love this clock. It is a part of my growing collection of 29 antique clocks! 🕰🕰🕰. 🤎🤎🤎.
I just picked up one of these today at a thrift shop. Actually did have some paperwork with it including a manual. It was sold by JCPenney. It's the American Schoolhouse Clock model number four. Someone had wrote on the manual of mine that they had purchased it in October of 1989. There was even a plate you could have engraved and put on the clock. I'm going to guess the different model numbers might be different just based on what color or style the clock is. I'm no expert on this and I don't have any more information than that. Manual says it is mad by P.S. Company.
I’ve been in the professional clock movement rebuilding profession for over 55 years and while this video was done well, the procedures done do not mimic a professional restoration. I have restored countless dozens of this and similar movements and will tell you that a major step was eliminated in this video and maybe on purpose for what this video was intended and that is “bushing the worn pivot holes”. This step is crucial if you expect the movement to function for any amount of time. The cleaning method is very hobbyist at best but sufficient for the purpose of this video as a hobby. Professionally done would be in an ultrasonic cleaning machine with the proper solution, rinsed and dried, which brings back the luster to the plates. Using mainspring C ring clamps is more secure and easier but unless the zip strips break, you’re ok. I’m not trying to condemn this persons video but I do want to convey that professionals do a much more extensive, longer lasting repair. I would produce a video in real time of the process but this rebuild would take several hours.
I'm not a professional and this was only the second clock I've ever worked on. For that reason, I wouldn't expect what I did to mimic what a professional would do - I don't have the preferred equipment/tools yet, and I also don't have all the required skills a professional would have. Addressing worn pivot holes is a skill I hope to work on at some point, but wasn't going to practice that skill on this clock that has sentimental value to me. Thanks for your feedback and hope to keep learning and getting better!
Thanks for your insight and knowledge into professional clock repair. I thought that greasing the gears is a big no-no.
Good job you did cleaning and restoring the movement of the 31-day clock to working order. I bet it took a lot of patience and, of course, skill to do it. Great work.
Thank you!
Thank you for making this informative video. I have a similar Korean-made 31 day regulator clock. It still works and keeps good time but I'm sure needs cleaning as it will stop after about 10 days running. I didn't pay a lot for it and certainly don't want to spend $300 or more for professional cleaning and maintenance. You have inspired me to have a go as I'm willing to learn 👍
It's a lot of fun. If you have a little patience and take many pictures/videos along the way, I'm sure you can get it sorted out. Thanks for watching!
I have a clock just like this one and love it! It's small but the gong is big!!!! Love the music .... very appropriate and class. Thank you for filming!
You're welcome! It's definitely a nice clock!
Definitely a higher quality 31 days movement and far more better than Chinese 31 days movement’s from 1990’s as plates are made out of aluminum instead of brass.
I agree! Thanks for watching!
Just watched your video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. I'm just getting into clocks. My wife has just bought a Lincoln wall clock (we live in Lincolnshire). It's got 'Made In China' on the dial. I'll have to hide that!! It's the same mech as yours. It runs slow by approx 5 minutes a day. Raising the pendulum has not helped. The pendulum swings a max of 15mm, end to end. I'm sure it should be more. Think it's on the brink of stopping. Only paid £10 so it'll be getting a strip and clean soon. My first one!! Your video will help lots. Thanks again.
Very cool! This was the first clock I ever worked on, and I didn't do everything quite right. For example, don't use grease or 3-in-1 oil. Take a look at my latest videos like th-cam.com/video/eiPqT4pvU7k/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/rLrG_822iZs/w-d-xo.html for better examples. If you have questions once you get into it, don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for watching!
Running to fast or to slow no matter how much it’s adjusted could either be, it’s turning winter time rapidly causing it to fall out of the beats per minutes needed to keep time, or a sign of worn pivot surfaces.
Thank you for your reply. The minute hand has a rectangular hole in its mounting center which fits over a rectangular arbor on the minute shaft. This prevents an arbitrary rotational placement of the hand before tightening it on the minute shaft.
Can you email me at watchoverhaulchannel@gmail.com? It will be easier for me to help you over email. There's more info I need to help you correctly.
I love old mechanical schoolhouse clocks. Nicely done! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I never realized there was a whole class of spring powered pendulum regulator clocks.
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Got to love the professionals who swoop in telling you what you are doing wrong in non-constructive ways. 🤣 In the amateur field we are all learning and developing skills as we go. One commenter criticized you for not using an ultrasonic cleaner for brightening the plates. If those plates were lacquered, doing it by hand and brush would be better. Also, getting bright plates is really just for cosmetics, so that a customer sees "bright plates", they know you did something. 🤣A tried and true method is just cleaning with kerosene and a good brush. There are many professionals that use this method. It doesn't brighten but it cleans. Matthew Reed does this and he does museum quality conservator restorations on clocks. The professional will charge you $300-500 just to take your movement apart, clean and oil it, without additional repairs added in, which is usually more than the clock is worth, so I don't see anything wrong in learning how to do it yourself. If the old grouches had a modicum of charity in their comments, to encourage people, we could all benefit from the knowledge, and make a nice clock community. ❤
Hey! I've seen some of your videos. Thanks for checking things out here. Yeah, I was surprised about how much I could seemingly set people off in a fit of rage by an amateur clock repair video. I also think there are people that have nothing better to do with their time than to anonymously talk down to random people online just so they can feel a brief sense of superficial superiority and feel better about whatever must be lacking in their life. I spend countless hours on these clocks, editing the videos, and narrating them just for fun and provide the videos for entertainment...nothing to get all upset about, haha. Thanks for watching, and good job on your videos!
Sir, enjoyed the video. I have the same clock, and it is running well at the present. However, the minute hand is about two minutes ahead of the beginning of the chime strike. Can you suggest a way to correct this? Thank you.
You should be able to loosen the hand, pull it off, and then place it back in the correct position. Thanks for watching!
Hi what oil you used ?
I now use Horace Whitlock's Clock Oil.
Merhaba ben mekanik saatlerimi dikiş makinesi yağı ile yağlıyorum uygun mu acaba? Ayrıca yılda bir defa yağlamak yeterli mi teşekkürler
I don't know if this is a language translation problem, but it says you lubricate your watch with sewing machine oil. Do you mean your clock? In either case, I don't know if it's safe or not. It's probably best to use the correct product for the correct thing, especially if it's something you care about.
If you're just lubricating but not cleaning the old oil off first, then I would think the mechanism will eventually accumulate an abrasive paste of dirt and oil, which will eventually damage the mechanism. Oiling once a year could be fine as long as you're cleaning the old oil and dirt off first, then reapplying the correct amount of oil.
Does he know what he is doing with the tweezers?😂 Nice tweezer technique
I like tweezers! 😁 Maybe I over tweezerize things sometimes, though. Thanks for watching!
So i have a 31 day regulator korea clock i wineded up the left knob the 2nd one is hard to turn it does chime but how do i get it to work i pusjed the thing at the bottom to go back and forth but it eventually stops does it need to be elevated or how fo i work yhis thing lol
It probably needs to be cleaned, or the clock just needs to be level so there is less beat error. You can watch some of my videos on how to do it or watch some how-tos on other channels.
Not a good practice to use zip ties to restrain the mainspring. I have seen zip ties fail. If this happens the spring will unwind in an explosive forceful manner possibly sending you to the hospital. You should purchase the proper mainspring clamps. You could get away with this for years, or the next clock you service could blow up as zip tie fails. Ive even seen brand new zip ties where you tighten them and then the center tab that holds them comes loose.
Yeah, it's not the best idea. I started using 2 zip ties per spring now, but I should get the right clamps. Thanks for watching!
Where did you get that clock?
It belongs to a family member of mine.
IT Seems like a Rhythm 31 movement
I don't think there were any markings on the movement itself. I would have thought there would have been something. The clock says Made in Korea though. Thanks for watching!
@@WatchOverhaul I've worked on a Same type Rhythm 31 clock with Calendar, any way Good work
Oh OK! Thanks for the information 👍
Because I really want it
I'm sure you can find clocks like this one on ebay.
@@WatchOverhaul Can you ask your Family member where they got it
I will try to find it
@@WatchOverhaul What’s the name of the clock
@SkyScreamer Gamer, search for 31 day regulator clock.
D&A 31 day regulator wall clock
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Triebe dürfen nicht gefettet werden! Außerdem müssen noch die ausgelaufen Lager getauscht und Zugfedern ersetzt werden!
Yeah. This was the first clock I ever worked on. I made mistakes. Thanks for watching!
@WatchOverhaul Ok, i understand you. Have a nice day
I have the exact same clock that I got at an antique store for $75, 10 or so years ago. It works very well. Do you know the history of its manufacturing?
I love this clock. It is a part of my growing collection of 29 antique clocks!
🕰🕰🕰. 🤎🤎🤎.
Cool! No, I don't really know the manufacturing history of this clock. Thanks for watching!
I just picked up one of these today at a thrift shop. Actually did have some paperwork with it including a manual. It was sold by JCPenney. It's the American Schoolhouse Clock model number four. Someone had wrote on the manual of mine that they had purchased it in October of 1989. There was even a plate you could have engraved and put on the clock. I'm going to guess the different model numbers might be different just based on what color or style the clock is. I'm no expert on this and I don't have any more information than that. Manual says it is mad by P.S. Company.