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I am an amateur watchmaker/clockmaker and restore watches and clocks for fun as a hobby. I am self-taught and I am always learning new things and techniques. Thanks for stopping by and going on this journey with me!
Rescuing 1860s Seth Thomas Ogee Clock Restoration
Next up on the bench is a beautiful 30-hour weight driven Seth Thomas Ogee Clock from the 1860s. This clock is riddled with problems and requires an extensive overhaul of not just the clock movement but also the case. Watch how I completely restore this clock both inside and out.
In this video, you'll see:
0:00 - Introduction
0:24 - Case Tour
1:37 - Initial Problems
2:54 - Removing Hands and Dial
4:23 - Removing Clock Movement
6:28 - Extremely Dirty Movement
7:27 - Disassembling Movement
11:59 - Cleaning Movement
16:37 - Repairing Suspension Spring
17:52 - Repairing 2nd Wheel Pivot Hole
22:57 - Repairing Escape Wheel Pivot Hole
25:16 - Assembling Movement
26:28 - Calculating BPM
29:20 - Disassembling Case
31:28 - Repairing Case Veneer
36:05 - Staining Veneer
36:45 - Refinishing Case
40:00 - Making New Dust Cover
41:40 - Assembling Case
42:40 - Installing New Weight Cord
44:05 - Oiling the Movement
44:50 - Installing Movement
48:22 - Installing Weights
49:07 - Testing Movement
50:36 - Making Pin for Hands
51:15 - Installing Dial and Hands
52:20 - Testing Strike
52:45 - Adjusting Beat Rate
54:22 - Conclusion
- How to remove hands and dial from a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to remove a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to disassemble Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to clean a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to repair a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock suspension spring.
- How to repair damaged pivot holes on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to assemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to calculate the Beats per Minute (BPM) for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to dissemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case .
- How to repair damaged veneer on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to stain match veneer on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to refinish a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to make a new pulley dust cover for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to assemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to install new weight cords for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to oil a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to install a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to install weights for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to make a new pin for the hands for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to adjust the beat rate for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
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In this video, you'll see:
0:00 - Introduction
0:24 - Case Tour
1:37 - Initial Problems
2:54 - Removing Hands and Dial
4:23 - Removing Clock Movement
6:28 - Extremely Dirty Movement
7:27 - Disassembling Movement
11:59 - Cleaning Movement
16:37 - Repairing Suspension Spring
17:52 - Repairing 2nd Wheel Pivot Hole
22:57 - Repairing Escape Wheel Pivot Hole
25:16 - Assembling Movement
26:28 - Calculating BPM
29:20 - Disassembling Case
31:28 - Repairing Case Veneer
36:05 - Staining Veneer
36:45 - Refinishing Case
40:00 - Making New Dust Cover
41:40 - Assembling Case
42:40 - Installing New Weight Cord
44:05 - Oiling the Movement
44:50 - Installing Movement
48:22 - Installing Weights
49:07 - Testing Movement
50:36 - Making Pin for Hands
51:15 - Installing Dial and Hands
52:20 - Testing Strike
52:45 - Adjusting Beat Rate
54:22 - Conclusion
- How to remove hands and dial from a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to remove a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to disassemble Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to clean a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to repair a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock suspension spring.
- How to repair damaged pivot holes on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to assemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to calculate the Beats per Minute (BPM) for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to dissemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case .
- How to repair damaged veneer on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to stain match veneer on a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to refinish a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to make a new pulley dust cover for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to assemble a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock case.
- How to install new weight cords for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to oil a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to install a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock movement.
- How to install weights for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to make a new pin for the hands for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
- How to adjust the beat rate for a Seth Thomas Ogee Clock.
I hope you liked this video. Please feel free to like, comment, and subscribe. :)
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I loved watching this! It was so nice. I actually have a 1881 Seth Thomas clock too so yeah good work
Awesome! I'm glad you liked the video, and thanks for watching!
Love this. Amazing work!
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Worn pivot hole in that close up.
I had more than one close-up, so I don't know which you're referring to.
You can't tell if a pivot hole is worn, just by looking at it. Unless it's really bad. You need to reassemble the gear trains, and look for excessive pivot movement in the holes, while moving the gear train back, and forth.
I don't end up showing everything I do. Some things get cut for time. I did check every pivot hole as you described. However, what I consider worn or not has a higher chance of being wrong as I haven't worked on that many clocks yet. I haven't read anywhere that could explain a concrete method to know, other than just personal interpretation. The oval/tear drop holes are obvious, but other than that, it seems a little fuzzy.
Hey! That weight you bought off eBay looks like someone used it for target practice😂
Haha. I wouldn't be surprised. I did get it from Ebay, so who knows what it's been through. Thanks for watching!
Also second comment, you’re not wrong. So back in I think the 90s and early 2000s. These are what I would call a flee market clock. People used to buy them for dirt cheap not running anymore. Run the movement fully assembled under like a parts washer (at best) spray it down with some kinda general lubricant like WD. And sell them at flee-markets for $50-100 bucks. You’d then buy one. Set it forget it for a few years not knowing any better. And the movement would begin wrecking itself.
Yeah, I think many of them are done this way to avoid paying a few hundred dollars to have a professional do it the right way.
I started with a passion for clocks and watches when I was like 7, got into cars as a teen and then back into clocks and watches. My favorite cleaning solvents are, brake clean, and unleaded petro 😂 I wouldn’t use either of these on brass.. however for mainsprings it works wonders to soak it for a few in petro and then wipe it down.
Thanks for the tip about the mainsprings. I'm doing some method that I learned after reading what other people do. I also saw some doing the same thing in their own videos. I just don't know if I'm using enough mainspring lubricatant or not.
Very first restore I did. I had no clue how big main springs unwind to 😂 I moved the click out of the way and had a ratchet on the arbor letting it down and it kept getting bigger and bigger 😂
Haha, yeah, they unwind quite a bit!
Awesome video. I've never sen 4 expressed as IIII in roman numerals. I thought it was IV. I wonder why they did that?
Apparently, it's kind of a tradition in the watch and clock industry to use IIII instead of IV. You can Google it to learn more. It's interesting! Thanks for watching!
I have one of those that my father brought to my mother in their trip to Germany 1970. Many years ago I inherited the Cuckoo . The same problem with the bellows, and doesn’t work at all. I certainly can disassemble and clean it. But not sure about the reassembly!
Reassembly isn't that hard, but it is a little overwhelming at first. Just take pictures/video of disassembly for reference. You also have my video to help. Thanks for watching!
Very nice job here once again. One thing that I do, and this is just me, is I wait to put any tension on the springs until I oil the movement first, this way I find it's easier for the oil to get into the pivot holes all the way around the pivots without the pivots being pressed up against one side of the pivot hole with the tension of the spring on the train, plus then when you test the movement, everything is already lubed and it's not metal on metal esp. since some of the gears on the strike train spin so fast. Of course, one test isn't going to cause major wear, but still in my view it's good to have everything oiled before testing using the power of the mainsprings. What I also usually do to ensure the strike train gears and levers are in the correct relation to one another is I will maybe wind the spring two or three clicks, then manually rotate the gears slowly to make sure the function is correct and levers dip when they are supposed to (I always to make sure the lever is in the middle of the notch of the lever/hammer gear when the pin of the governor drive gear is stopped by it) so this way if it's wrong, I can then easily fix it by removing the corner nut and loosening the others to that I can lift the plate just enough to pop the pivot of the governor drive gear out. leaning just far enough away to clear the teeth from the pinions of the lever gear (as I call it), then rotate it as necessary to correct it and easily put it back in without having to worry about all of the other gears then having to be put back into their pivots. Once correct, loosely tighten the nut, give it one more manual test and if good, tighten down, then oil, then tension springs and give one final function test. Again, this is just what I do.
Thanks for the tip about the oil. Your method about the strike train sounds the same as what I have to do sometimes. I'll have to show how I do it in my next video, but I think I do exactly as you described. Thanks for watching!
Interesting that around 11:35 you call it the "maintenance lever" and "maintenance cam". I have never heard that terminology before. Is that from a book? I have a few clock repair books but not nearly all of them. I think I have just seen it called the 'drop lever' and 'drop cam', but now you've inspired me to check out my books again to see what they call it. In older clocks of a different design (especially older English clocks for example), it's called a 'locking plate' and the lever is called a 'locking piece' or something like that, because in those clocks (for example some lantern clocks), the cam not only raises and lowers the entire count lever assembly, but is actually responsible for stopping the striking train! (There is no separate stop pin as here, and if there is a warning pin, it is not used for locking the train). I presume clockmakers went from using the cam as a locking device, to using a separate stop pin, because it is more positive and reliable (one can easily imagine the profile of the cam and/or the shape of the lever getting deformed with use and no longer locking positively). In the really old clocks like the lantern clocks mentioned, (and early tall clocks) and even some early tower/turret clocks, the cam isn't a separate cam mounted on the wheel or arbor, but is actually a hoop created by attaching a protruding rim of metal to the side of the wheel, with a gap or opening in the rim being the 'notch' for counting and locking. As you can imagine, that's fairly crude, but it works.
Thanks for sharing all of that! The terminology I used came from this website, mb.nawcc.org/wiki/Encyclopedia-Subjects/Clock-Repair/Count-Wheel-Basics.
Прекрасно, что у Вас такое замечательное хобби. Респект и успехов.
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Thank you for this video! I have a clock from my parent's attic that has the Adamantine case with the exact same movement. I found it there 25 years ago, but it has never run right. It appears to be in perfect original condition but it only runs for a minute before it stops. I bought a couple of books on watch and clock repair, but it seemed to be beyond my understanding. I also have a few old pocket watches that some were working, some need repair, but I like to carry one. After all jeans have a built in pocket watch pocket. With your help I am going to clean and oil my clock and put it on the mantle where it belongs. Somebody wrote Dec. 15, 04 on the wood back in pencil, barely readable now. By the way, you cut the new leather striker to the same length as mine. I am in my mid seventies and appreciate the old craftsmanship. Thanks again, you did an excellent job on the clock and this presentation. I was reading through the comments and found your information on the date code on the bottom. Mine is stenciled 6981 G (July 1896), I never looked at the bottom before. On the back panel is stenciled No 717 1/2, I have no idea what that means. The stencil looks like pale white paint applied with some kind of dauber(?). Mine also has the 3 5/8 stamped into the lower left plate. I am lucky that mine is in almost pristine condition, hopefully it will work properly again.
Thank you for the kind words! That's cool about the leather tip. I just had to male a judgment call on the length. That's awesome you are going to fix up your clock. You'll at least have my video as a reference, and I also have helpful information in the description of the video. Regarding the markings on the clock, Google will be your friend. Try Googling the information you see on your clock, and you should be able to find websites that say what they mean. If you need help, don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for watching!
Isn't this the time to replace the gaskets as well ? Nice video , tnx for sharing ❤
Yeah, it would have been a good time to do it. Thanks for watching!
I am a recent subscriber to your channel , Also new to the hobby ...... I think my next investment will be a micro camera of some sort ..... making use of my laptop to view as well as recording ..... Any suggestions are greatly appreciated ; )
Thank you for subscribing! I have many details in the description of my videos of what I use and links to them - just FYI, in case you need help figuring out what to get. You don't need anything too fancy to get started (I didn't). I've been using a Magnification Endoscope (amzn.to/4hGdz3M) from time to time. It's nice but kind of hard to use. I recently got this Digital Microscope (amzn.to/3DYSLoP). I've tested it out, but I haven't used it with a clock yet, but I will soon. You can always email me at watchoverhaulchannel@gmail.com if you have more questions. Thanks for watching!
Your videos are amazing! The amount of detail you add to the video and description helps so much! Quick question, while finding cleaning solutions I was only able to find the original simple green industrial cleaner and degreaser instead of the crystal version. Would it still be okay to use with distilled water?
Thank you so much for the kind words! Yeah, I think distilled water would still be okay. I can't think of a reason why it would be a bad thing to use. Thanks for reaching out and watching!
Really enjoyed this one!! I got a similar Cuckoo from the Black Forest, Germany in 1960's!!
It's neat that you have a similar clock! They are fun to have and work on as well. Thanks for watching!
Nice job!! Enjoyed subscribing, looking forward to more restorations!!
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Excellent video
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Very nice to see the old clock repaired and saved. It looked and ran great. Thanks for this entertaining and educational video .
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The strike gathering pallet can be removed by grasping it firmly either between your thumb and pointer finger, or with needle nose pliers with some kind of fabric so it's not medal to medal contact, then with your other hand, grab the gear and firmly rotate little by little left and right while pulling and it will work the pallet off the tapered shaft. Just do so carefully. I've not had a single issue removing them this way. As for the center one, that unf. cannot be removed without damaging the shaft or the gears on it as they are pressed in place on the shaft. So, I just slide the shaft up and down as far as I can and clean the shaft on both side of the plate while doing so until I no longer see any sign of gunk. You just need to ensure it is completely dry of any water/cleaning solution before oiling. I'm glad to see that you actually disassembled the movement to service it as that is really the only truly correct way to do it. Plus, you can then more thoroughly inspect all the components to ensure they are all in good condition.
Thanks for the suggestions! Yeah, I like taking everything apart as much as I can. I think it's the proper way to clean, inspect, and repair a clock movement. Cleaning a clock movement without disassembling it is like taking a shower with your clothes on. You might look and smell clean, but many areas would remain wet and dirty. Thanks for watching!
@@WatchOverhaul Exactly. It drives me crazy to see so called 'cuckoo clock repair videos' here where they don't disassemble the movements and just take them out and oil them, most of the time with the wrong oil, a lot of them don't even remove the movements and just oil the back pivot holes that are obviously gummed up. That's not repairing, not even bandaging, so it's good to see a video of it being done as it should be. I've been repairing clocks since 2008 and am self-taught as well. You're welcome and I'm sure I'll be watching more of them.
Try frog tape for less bleed under the tape 36:01
I had some of that tape at one point. Don't know where it went. It is a good product. Thanks for watching!
I wonder if people would like to make a functioning video clock mechanism that works and video that follows. And with dimensions so they can make it physical at a later date. I surely would have as a kid.
I have seen online wooden clock kits that actually function. For example, amzn.to/4288SKL. These look fun.
@WatchOverhaul have one.
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I had an identical clock. The string broke and smashed off the case bottom. That chime brings back some memories. The dial on mine was badly pained by my dad when he restored it
That's too bad the bottom broke out. I read that this clock wasn't meant to be hung. It was meant to sit on something for the very problem that happened with your clock. After I found this out, it made sense why the bottom of the clock wasn't finished - it wasn't meant to be seen. Thanks for watching!
I am so glad I found this channel. I have several clocks to repair but need guidance. I will be watching more.
Thank you! You can always reach out if you have questions. I'm not an expert, but I've learned some things and sometimes the hard way. Thanks for watching!
I had the same problem with the purple discoloration. I believe this is due to the simple green which has aluminum in it. When the temperature is above 40C the aluminum combines with the gold plating on the movement and turns it purple. Keeping the temperature lower will help avoid that.
Very interesting! Did you also try Crystal Simple Green or just the regular Simple Green?
As a 1964 Christmas gift my grandmother gave my granddad a Seth Thomas mantle clock like yours, although the case is quite a bit different. I don’t think it’s ran for more than 50 years. Recently my brother Mark, who is a hobbyist clock repairman, completely refurbished the movement and it’s running like a top. He shared your video with me, using it to illustrate how he repaired it, and I found it fascinating. Thanks for your video!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing and for watching!
Thanks!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
For goodness sake….work your way down to the local hardware store, cough up $15-$20 and buy yourself a set of nut drivers. You’re going to do more damage to that movement than all those years of neglect did. Also, don’t be afraid to remove the verge and crutch AND the escape wheel from the plate. Don’t worry about replacing it….you’ll get it. I’ve found that if you have questions, don’t hesitate to go to the local watch/clock repair shop and ask them. Most of the time they’ll go out of their way to answer your queries. They’ll give you valuable tips also. (P.S. Great to see someone working on these old gems….thanks for the video).
I actually worked on this clock again once I learned more. If you want, you can watch th-cam.com/video/eiPqT4pvU7k/w-d-xo.html. Thanks for the suggestions and for watching!
My parents had a clock just like yours. I remember them applying some "ham handed repairs" to get it working again. I don't know what happened to that clock. I lost track if it over time...
That's too bad you can't find it. They are neat clocks. Thanks for watching!
Your narration style and voice tone fit really well with your subject
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I like this clock Please arrange one for me. India
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Great video thank you.
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The chime sounds like a door bell.
Yeah, kind of does!
Thank you for learning about clocks and helping them to tick-tock again!♥️
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Simply awesome
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I love clocks, the older the better! There’s something about the tick-tock that is very enjoyable to me! Today’s clocks just don’t thrill me! I have Asperger’s Syndrome and the tick-tock south’s me greatly!
I agree. They are really nice. I like how they don't require any electricity. I also find them soothing. Thanks for sharing and for watching!
that was really great. super informative and entertaining as well :) I'm also new at this, and its an incredible help to see how others tackle problems. I have (7) clocks that I've played with. But now? I think i'd like to hunt down a cuckoo. Thank you again. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Thanks for the kind words! The cuckoo clock was fun to work on. Thanks for watching!
❤ fantastic job! I’m like you, I’d rather do the wood restoration. I’ve been a mechanic most of my nearly 70 years of life. I get great satisfaction from working with wood.👍!
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I love cuckoo clocks! Use finger nail polish remover will unglue your fingers.
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Just an idea regarding woodworking and refinishing... This gentleman is rather good at just the things like veneer, finish matching, and all about pretty much everything to do with it. m.youtube.com/@johnsonrestoration
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Brilliant you are doing this. I have a clock shop ln solvang California, you should get a catalog both for Black Forest and time savers. Black Forest sells an ultrasonic cleaning solution called Zenith, the ammoniated solution is the good one, don’t bother with the non ammonia. It cleans very well, and also brightens up the brass well. As a hobbiest, you can get away with just a clean movement. however if you get to the point of restorations for customers, it’s important the the movement looks nice too. Although you can’t see the movements in a lot of American clocks, it’s a good finish. Once you get more advanced, crystal regulators, or any other clocks with exposed movements need to be cleaner. Simple green is kind of clever, but you don’t need to do this since it’s cheap enough to get a good solvent meant for cleaning clock parts. Also with you mainsprings, those can go in the ultrasonic tank. And you don’t need to put grease on them until the movement is assembled. Once the clock is halfway wound, you hold the movement flat and drip the grease so it flows through the crevices of the slightly wound spring. This prevents oily hands from touching the pre greased mainspring and leaving marks on the clean movement, and saves time. Defect on the winding wheel is a factory defect, you see them from time to time. Sunny to see once in a while, when you work on older movements 1820s and earlier, you’ll see more casting imperfections. Cleaning them with mineral spirits after the tank is unnecessary, just rinse with warm water in the sink. No need to waste time and solvents when you don’t need to. Not to mention mineral spirits will still leave a bit of a film. For drying parts, use an air compressor to get the majority of water off the parts, then put in a drier for a few minutes. If you don’t have a dryer, oven on low for a few minutes works fine. I’m also curious why you don’t throw all the parts together? Don’t worry about over packing the tank the components will be fine. This just adds more extra time to your project when it’s unnecessary. For heavy grease removal: sometimes clocks that are super dirty I pre clean them, kinda. I use the clock rinsing solution that Black Forest sells with a tooth brush to remove heavy grease and dirt. This does two things: removes very old caked on grease that won’t come off in the tank, like your white lithium grease. Lastly, it will save your tanks solution. Heavily dirty movements will severely affect the solution, so if you can save it, do it. More beneficial to do this before ultrasonicing than after. You’re correct about the hammer, kinda. With a real clock cleaning solution the leather will get mushy and eventually dry very hard and disintegrate. Your solution probably won’t do this. I noticed something in your last video. The time train is easy on these movements because it doesn’t matter the placement. The strike train does matter very much. In your last video, the gearing was not calibrated for the hammer to be in full rest position when not chiming. It’s lmportant to adjust the gearing on the strike to do this. This clock has the hammer lifting pins and stop pins on the same gear so you got lucky. But in full rest position, and clock going into caution at five minutes before striking, the hammer should have NO contact with the gearing. Only exceptions are earlier clocks that have just a little bit of hammer contact on the gearing which can be normal, but we’re talking old old clocks. Another thing I noticed, but could have been done off camera, make sure to oil the center shaft before you put the hour wheel on! You can not do this after you assemble the places, along with the canyon pinion (spring on the center shaft that creates tension) Your oil looks great, but you are using an application style more for watches. Invest in a syringe, doesn’t look like you’re adding enough oil. Oil sinks should not be over flowers, but not empty either. Bushings are not the only components that need oil. Lifting lever for hammer should have sinthetic grease, I use “the system” Click definitely need oil as well. Oil or grease on the stop lever of the strike as well to prevent wear, along with the lifting lever on the center shaft that lifts the levers to make the chime clock every half hour. This needs oil and or grease as well. Keep it up, feel free to message me if you have ent questions. I specialize in restorations of rare antique European clocks including music boxes and automatons.
Thank you for sharing all of that information and suggestions! I really appreciate it! I haven't noticed a film from using mineral spirits, but using isopropyl alcohol leaves a white film. I don't throw all the parts together because I read that if parts rub against each other in the ultrasonic cleaner, it could damage the parts. Thanks for the tip on the hammer positioning. I haven't been oiling the center shaft. Can I just use the clock oil I use on the pivots? I have a syringe for the oil, but it's hard for me to control how much oil comes out and didn't want to over oil. I'll give the syringe a try again. In the first round of this video, I used grease on things, but not in the areas you suggested. Either way, I got blasted in the comments, and the sentiment was that I should never get grease near a clock. So, now I shy away from it. It's hard to know what to do when people say to not use grease and others say to use grease. I'm definitely going to keep learning and making more videos, and it's people like you who really help me along. Thanks for the encouragement and the thoughtful comment. Can you email me at watchoverhaulchannel@gmail.com so I can get your contact info?
Absolutely beautifully and tenderly refurbished 👏👏👏🤩🙋♀️🇬🇧
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I restored the case on my great great grandmother's Seth Thomas. The only thing I'd do differently now is use hide glue rather than carpenter's glue. I'm going to have to work on the worn movement before long. I didn't know you could buy bushings or broaches. As you can see, I need to do a lot more research before taking it on. Great video.
Yeah, I should have probably used hide glue as well. If you need help with figuring out what to buy to work on clocks, you can look in the video description of my videos, and I try to detail everything I use. Thanks for watching!
@@WatchOverhaul Thanks for the heads-up on the tools links. You do a great job documenting your videos - I hadn't clicked "more." The best TH-cam channel that I've found for wood restoration is "Thomas Johnson Antique Furniture Restoration." Well worth a watch. www.youtube.com/@johnsonrestoration
Very nice! I have a Seth Thomas 30-hour, a few years newer than yours but showing the same symptoms of wear. It's been in my family since new. Very good to see re-bushing in action; I was very nervous about screwing up the process and I feel more confident about it now. I was looking forward to seeing how you corrected the warped back panel that was pulling the nails out -- and that was the one thing you didn't show! The back on mine is very warped and I need to figure out how to flatten it. (I guess it comes from being a mantle clock for 150 years.)
I'm glad you liked the video! Yeah, the back was warped a bit. Partly because the eye screws were pushing the back out some, partly because it's multiple boards glued together, and wood moves with temperature and humidity changes. Once I got it nailed down flat without the eye screws, it seemed a lot better. Thanks for watching!
Looks beautiful! And I think Thomas Johnson would approve of your veneer repair. : )
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If you want to be a little more fussy you could use on a qtip a bit of lemon oil soaked in water to clean the carvings after you have cleaned the wood up around the clocks case.
Thanks for the suggestion!
If you do a clock like this you always want to make sure you a cuckoo clock oiler to oil, use twist ties to keep the chains on the sprockets and make sure before you put the motor back inside the case you give it a test run to see if the cuckoo clock is going gong strike strike, gong strike strike. If you have that pattern you definitely have the cuckoo in the right order. You also want to test your bird on the perch to make sure it's jumping when it goes cuckoo.
Good tips! Thanks for watching!