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- Cambridge-based entrepreneur, Kath Austin who started her ethical food wrap company from her kitchen in 2017 is now seeking an investment of £60,000 in return for a 10% equity stake in Beebee Wraps - British made vegan and beeswax food wraps that offer consumers a reusable alternative to clingfilm and single-use plastic.
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Deborah gets her servants to rub bees wax on paper to wrap her gluten free cucumber sandwiches
I wish there was a way to share comments so others can see this aswell
Don't kid yourself, I have a feeling she DOES do it herself. She didn't start out wealthy.
This was specific
She is committing acts of slavery by holding bees hostage and against their will! They probably prepare roaming around the gardens in Great Britain, instead of being slaves to an organisation!
Exactly...back at her stables...
It's nice when you google the product and it's still available.
I like the fact she didn't get defensive and took things in stride. It always frustrates me when people are on the show and have the, "How dare you embarrass me!" attitude.
There has to be a balance. It is your product that you have spent time and effort creating. Nothing wrong with defending it, but you're right - getting to the "how dare you embarrass me" level is too far.
She had a fantastic attitude
You know. I love how the Dragons know when to be harsh, when to be kind, when to be gentle - this may have been a 'grilling' but I felt like they were being very kind to her.
Sometimes they just group attack to knock confidence but yes by majority they do it for the greater good
that's because she handled herself well she was coherent and concise
It’s cuz she’s cute
Where did you get kind and gentle from? They're most often extremely condescending, greedy and conceited, miserable people whose money has got to them, except for Teij maybe.
I hate bees
Stingy critters
Crucial pollinators you mean - we'd have a lot less fruit and veg without them, stingy or not.
Debra keeps bees as slaves
It's debatably slavery. It's a mutually beneficial relationship. Beekeepers protect the bees from predators, and assist them with population growth. As well, the bees don't have to produce structural comb in a box, so they are able to produce surplus honey, which the beekeeper removes. Additionally, the bees could swarm elsewhere, and they could attack the beekeeper, if they weren't satisfied. For example, if you keep African honeybees, or European honeybees that have become Africanized again, then they will resist.
@@litigioussociety4249 Show me the contract between the bees and the beekeeper
@@Chi_Vid2 It's exploitation at best, but it's complicated, since traditional ethics don't apply to human and animal interactions, since we're not capable of making formal rules and agreements with each other. For example, a raccoon is not accountable for stealing a person's property.
@@litigioussociety4249 You really know your bee stuff
With a large farm estate, why not?
"you may wrap your own flapjack"
Theo scoffs it down and bins the papery stuff
Sus pfp
@Travel Crawl Business and cause is different...
The fetus tries to lick the beeswax off the paper as a palate cleanser.
Theos children's inheritance disapproves of theo not using every second of his spare time to make more money.
I’m glad she took it constructively. They were all coming from a good place when they said no and Deborah even said you’re not ready yet, leaving the option open to return.
The Dragons sometimes point at small problems and say 'for that reason I will not invest' - but I thought part of the point was their expertise could solve problems like this.
The Dragon's expertise and time are very valuable. If the Dragons don't believe the return on their investment is high enough, it's not worth their effort. The question isn't whether the Dragons can make a product more successful. That's a given. It's just that they have better investment opportunities elsewhere. I'm sure the Dragons have endless people trying to pitch ideas to them every day.
I bet Deborah re-uses her toilet paper
😅 this was nice comment mate 👏🏻
Why is the onus of not using plastic solely on the consumer while the large manufacturers/companies easily get away with their responsibility for profit maximisation. So, I buy a packet of spices, cereals, etc. it being covered in plastic is my fault because I love plastic?
🙄 Even if a consumer makes a conscious decision to shift to a greener lifestyle, an eco-friendly item is so expensive that it defeats the very purpose. The tipping point will never be reached.
I’m not even sure what kind of problem is a beeswax wrap attempting to solve. Can food not be carried in containers?
Agree. I think a set of plastic food containers does the job. Buy them once and they should last for many years.
Buy glass containers with latex lids and they’ll last 20+ years and are completely sterile and inert
Aitn it the truth, companies cause something like 70% of pollution and politicians let them all while business blame consumers encouraging them to watch their carbon footprint
@@jonnil1997 that 70% is energy companies that make electricity? It's not like they can just stop unless people stop using electricity from them.
Because you buy them? You don't have to buy things wrapped in plastic? If you didn't buy them they'd be forced to change to appeal to the consumer or they would just stop producing all together because there's no market for their product, which is pretty standard business lol and they are business people .. their ideology is keeping costs down and profits high and making a quick buck
At over £14, I can see this product selling really well in Lidl and Aldi
Are you kidding? They sell their products for dirt cheap. More like Waitrose sells this.
@@praveeshachapman677 whoosh
@@praveeshachapman677 - you missed the joke, then?
i mean if it lasts a full year as claimed, what's wrong with £14?
@@ileolai Good point that
Debbie - only as 'ethical' as her bank balance allows her to be.
No idea what this product does
Its A Wrapper As A Gift, Like You Would Wrap Presents,
If I need to wrap my food I toss it away. Dont see any use for this.
Replaces the use of glad wrap/cling film
Try watching the video - it shows you exactly what it does, doh !
@@thetessellater9163 How do you cover it in beeswax?
STOP STEALING FROM THE BEES
BEES HAVE RIGHTS TOO
Taking honey does seem like that - the poor things make all the stuff as a food store, and then its gone!
Some beekeepers then provide them with shite processed sugar - the stuff we increasingly hate.
do you know a lawyer who could represent thes bees in a class action lawsuit this is something we need to start a petition for its not okay that we think just because bees are yellow people they don't have the same rights as we do
come on people donate to my charity bees need to get on their knees and let's get the world to recognise bees like my granpappy fought for in the grand war iv
god bless hope your mum is well xx
Ya like jazz?
@@thetessellater9163 Yes, I'm sure they are just heart-broken!
buzz off
Ridiculous - this is no substitute for aluminium foil
That’s because this Isn’t a substitute for aluminium foil, it’s a substitute for cling film. Nice one though bro
I've had one of these wrap wax things before and they are really horrible to deal with, when it gets hot outside the wax on the cloth melts off into your food or fingers and they don't even stay closed, you have to use a clip or sellotape to keep them closed. I'll stick to tin foil and my metal lunchbox, at least metal is recyclable and doesn't melt on you!
yeeee my demon worshipping brother coming in with the heavy metal Metallica themed lunchboxes now there's something you can get behind especially if you are a drummer my brother was a drummer and he had long hair like a lady but he wasn't a lady so I was glad when I found out he was just passionate about iron alloys in the context of holding sandwiches against the hordes of daily life
Hope your mum is well xx
@Doctor Pterodactyl that's what Bill gates wants you to think but you can't let them tell you their reptilian lies its all part of their plan and God knows we must fight the forces of evil and love thy neighbour or else we reap what we sow amen brother praise be the blood god
@@Jankunas_Reviews Trex Jones understands the deep truths of our dimensionverse let me be clear this is not a fickle pokeman box this is high justice do not leave the fight and protect our right to bear arms
Love thy neighbour friend invite thee to your Sunday BBQ xoxoxox Support trans rights 🌈
I was wondering about heat. Thanks for the insight.
Tinfoil? You mean aluminum foil, and no it's not recyclable
I'm stuck on "we've got bees, so we use our own beeswax". That is different level of rich, no?
No, you really don't have to be rich to keep bees. You do have to care and be committed.
Are these microwave friendly?
Buy some and find out
@@halomena are you Cath? Lol you're under every comment either defending or promoting this product.
No friendly, but they do respect each other
@@halomena 😅 I couldn't help that chuckle
@@rohilthomson nah I just thought it would be fun to shitpost and see if people get mad
makes me slightly proud that the clingfilm I threw in the bin will outlive me by hundreds of years #MyLegacy
me too, It brings a tear to my eye
@@Japan_Malaysia I'll never have a child, but knowing "Clingy" is out there warms my heart!
You could have kept it to be wrapped in, mumification on the cheap
I’m a Clingon too
I like to wrap my hookers in clingfilm
£14 for 3 bits of paper!!! - screw the planet
Are you dense or did you not watch the whole video?
@@halomena Hi Kath! :P
@@leapy3377 yo what up edna
who's watching this in 2021?
Watching in 2020
@@pravinbhorge7 Watching in 2019.
What a weird thing to ask.
2023 here, what a year we just came from. If ppl from 2021 would even know then omg
You're living in 2021? Well hey, good luck pal.
Why does food need to be wrapped?
Food comes on a plate and when you are finished, the waiter takes it away
Fun fact: Some of the microplastics in landfills might actually outlive Deborah Meaden.
She can get it
I'll stick with clingfilm thanks
Enjoy those endocrine disruptors.
I'll stick with destroying the planet for future generations thanks
@@halomena so what you having for lunch?
@@Drunken_Slob A pint of vinegar
@@Drunken_Slob I had a light air salad followed by a water bar because I am watching my figure at the moment but it's a bucket of fried possum drumsticks for dinner cos have been good boy so mum said good boys get good toys
what's ya dad doin these days?
Just gonna throw this out there. What about sandwich containers? I use them everyday and you can use them for different things they can be washed and used till broken which takes years of intentional damage. I feel like that works better than this wax paper.
Because they are made of plastic? You should throw them out there.....for missing the point !
I like the wraps for food in the fridge on plates. Containers are good too.
@@thetessellater9163 the ones I use aren’t actually plastic. They’re a sturdy glass.
Intentional damage? Show us how you eat your lunch? Must be great. Lunch with the Paratroop regiment? I am joking, you know. having a good natured day for once. Ah. But these will never sell and containers are just the right solution. Duh! YOu are correct.
@@thetessellater9163 metal, glass, wood, bamboo and ceramic boxes exist, my own lunchbox is made from a special bio plastic that is made from wheat fibers. It's not just plastic anymore.
People that use beeswax food wraps really have too much time on their hands
How do you figure that out? It takes less time to use a wax wrap than clingfilm.
Too much time and money.. cling film 60p local shops.lasts 10 days ..not to mention food hygiene..no cook/chef would use it
@@numptybawbag7806 You wash them after use.
@@AudreyMealiff ok.. sure ..would the wax not melt away in hot water ..fist I've heard of these
@@numptybawbag7806 my friend makes them and she recommends warm water and a gentle soap. Seems to work well.
We have our own bee's... Okay Deborah 🤣
The bees own her
@@MrSupersonic84 shes the bees knees
@@alanshort1401 please, bees dont need knees
@@joedwyer3297 good point Joe!
It's very unhygienic to re-use wrapping paper.
Are you just dense or did you not watch the full video?
It probably helps spread covid-19
@@paulgray1535 bro calm down
@@paulgray1535 wtf is covid19 lmao
We have loads of sandwiches after Christmas. We use the wrapping paper XD
Could this be the most pointless product ever on DD
No, it keeps tree huggers from feeling too guilty
Don't forget the guy who put lights on road signs or the guy with the cucumber lid thing
dont forget the seaweed guys
@@Asif-kh-n9r the cucumber lid was a great idea! I literally have one at home but I use it for my carrots😀
@@jimmycrackers3358 - you mean you store half a carrot?
It’s none of Kath’s beeswax how Deborah makes hers
Debra just waffles on how she is enviromental concious. She alwsys does a speech about it and then doesnt invest.
What was your first year turnover? NONE OF YOUR BEESWAX!
Can you eat the paper. It's covered in honey
lol
It you eat it, then it will not be sustainable
Beeswax is not honey ! You have this wrapped around your neck.
Every time Dragons Den is like
Pitcher: "It's Eco Friendly/Organic"
*DRAMATIC ZOON IN ON DEBORAH*
I hate environmental solutionism. Use a reusable container instead of fumbling with which version of jajaoba oil won't melt into your food
As a chef I can say that clingfilm is the best invention ever.
I think clingfilm is great if the food isn’t directly wrapped in it… it taints the food, makes the food taste like the clingfilm smells. We have an amazing bakery down the road, they wrap everything in it once it's cut in individual portions and I won't buy after that, it just tastes gross.
Even better than the hypodermic needle?
@@beckyweisfeld6977 Motor cars were invented in about 1885 ............... (you can guess the rest)
@@ifwecouldvote In the kitchen, hypodermic needles have limited use
The planet as we see it now will not be the same in 50 years - this is just a freak blip in human history, where we gorge on everything till its all gone. Our grandchildren will hate us !
Roll on global heating to rid the planet of this nasty parasite sprawling uncontrollably across her surface.
I went to school with Kath (and she was my first ever girlfriend). She's incredibly smart, incredibly driven and every bit as nice as she seems here. They should've given her the money, the tossers.
Aww!
Why don't you help her? You sound nice, too!
Its true i was the school
Why?
She walked in there having not done her market research, admitted she was crap at negotiating, and got told she was going to end up squeezed because her prices were too high.
I'm sure she's very nice, but her business sounds like the perfect drain to chuck money away in. 😂
How big is her benis?
Way to expensive! Id rather use ear wax & save some money 😂 Anybody wanna bite of my sandwich for lunch mmmmmmmm :p
Yeah I'm totally sure Deborah 'I don't dye my hair' Meaden makes her own wax sandwich wraps. Gimme a break
She makes her own sandwich wraps in the evening after the hoovering and making egg and chips for her hubby
This has been around a long, long time. It one of those things that came out of the hippie 60s. My parents used them. £14 is lunacy. £9.99 is lunacy.
for a lifetime product its fair
problem is people buy the wrong food & dont cook properly anymore
too many leftovers ,if you cook correctly u dont need storage
@@mcfcguvnors u need storage for when you're not at home..it's like saying you don't need shopping bags, just shop correctly 🤦🏼♂️
@@somerandomguywastaken I just keep my sandwiches for lunch in my pocket, no packets or clingfilm needed.
Leftover spaghetti? Take it to work in my pocket too. No need for that expensive parmesan anymore, the pocket dust is close enough.
Damn sight longer than that. Waxed peper was used for centuries to keep food dry.
And that's the problem. We currently don't use it for it's intended purpose. We use it to wrap up our sourdough sandwiches and artisan granola slices for when we want to feel rustic and edwardian, but we could just use a cloth hanky and a lunch box and get precisely the same results but for next to nothing.
Okay everybody... That's a wrap!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice bit of totty. I would have her on toast any lunchtime.
There's a constant battle in the den between Peter and Deborah to see who can be more woke
@Skappy Nigger so true
08:22 I have never seen Theo Graffitis make a graffiti. I don’t know why the narrator keeps calling him that…
They also look really small, like they couldn't wrap a sandwich, I guess there are bigger ones
For £14 I could have 50 meters of cling film, make sandwiches for the week, put enough fuel in my V8 to get to the coast and throw the left overs in the Sea myself!
Ffs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought all the bees were dead - Jenny I'm out
😂
It’s a shame they couldn’t be made from seaweed
Would take too much time for Rory to go hand pick enough seaweed for this use case, unfortunately :(
In Malaysia, roadside burgers are a thing all over the country. If they were able to bring it down to very cheap, it will do very well.
It's very creepy when she says "THAAANK YOU PETAH " and "THAANK YOU DEBRA!😄😄😄
when rejected.
Never used one if these.. What happens when they get soiled, do you wash them with soap and water or just let the bacteria build up over time until they ask for voting rights?
The market is flooded with these wraps and they're not only expensive but a pain to keep clean. I question the sanitary part of them in the end because they're fairly fragile and require hand washing in cold water. There has to be something better coming through the pike for me to invest, I'M OUT!
I do love people that have these ideas but I think someone will eventually come up with something much better and more durable but still nature friendly.
You could use tin foil, it's recyclable and cheap in the uk
@@cupidwxings That's what I normally use but I do have a large supply of plastic wrap which you call cling film.
CO2 emissions from plastics and Jenny's "I'm out" are just about the same.
Kath saying she "negotiated" with the wholesaler to end up with the lowest price imaginable had definite airs of Phil Wang's haggling running gag on Taskmaster 😂
I'm addicted to flushing clingfilm down the bog
what 💀
If it works as well as durex then why not.
How did this make top comment?
£14 😮 Not what the average family could pay. Debra says she makes these but won't cook etc. I think she means her staff make them
Platic has become a big problem in our homes
Immediately zooms into Debby's face, and then so close that you can see the hairs coming from its nostrils and the makeup blobs around its eyes: Why? we don't need to see that and we also know that deep mud nail-picking woman is all green and anti-plastic etc. The nostril zoom just isn't necessary
This is pretty much what people in the mediaeval times used. Smells nice too
shes fit
I don't even know what the product is? they have not explained clearly what it is. Is it like cling film where you can use it over and over again? If so wouldn't there be an odour of previous food it had wrapped around ?
this pitch says so much about where we are, and where we need to be about green issues. Sara saying that she knows someone who does this cheaper, gets Deborah off the hook for investing. HOWEVER at some point, someone like Deborah, is going to have to throw caution to the wind, and make that invest. She and Peter have the money to make their lives green, its not as easy for the rest of us. On a personal level, I dont use much cling film, but its certainly a product that others do use
You know Deborah has a long history of investing in environmental products, right?!
This was less about the money and the fact that Deborah KNEW this product wasn’t ready to be the change it wanted to be.
Spot on.
We need an alternative that's actually cheap enough to disrupt clingfilm. Lovely pretty beeswax paper at £14 a pack of three is not it. It's not the solution, because most people cannot afford the cost of entry.
Agree!
Rich people problems when you’re worrying about the cloth covering your sandwiches tainting the taste
"Hm, this beeswax wrapper has a smell that is tainting my £10 Waitrose sandwich! I guess its back to using my beeswax wrapper that I make from the BEEHIVE THAT I OWN" the ultimate rich person statement.
Good indication of a shrewd businessman/businesswoman: they my be all for the environment when they talk, but in the end, only the money talk.
Cling film actually decomposes a lot quicker than that. More like 10-20 years than "hundreds and hundreds".
Well I just bought some. Nice.
If youre selling to a wholesaler the margin should be at least 50%, if its to a retailer or youre selling direct, it should be at least 60% imo
It’s too fiddly, standing there wrapping my sandwich in the morning no thanks, I wouldn’t want to reuse the same paper for hygiene reasons and it’s expensive. Id be cheaper using birthday or Christmas paper and cellotape. I’ll stick to old fashion cling film or kitchen foil any day thanks
Susan just because you cant do the maths to work out that reusing this product for a year could be cheaper than buying several packs of cling wrap doesn't mean the rest of us need to listen to your inane comments
Susan no one cares that you're the type of person who brazenly introduces a long-term cost to a system to bring you a disproportionately small convenience benefit. There's a lot of you.
Lol the people above me are pressed. If you claim to not care then don't drop paragraphs lol.
@@rohilthomson you think writing five lines over my morning coffee is strenuous and that makes me feel sad for you
@@ArcaneAnouki Organic coffee ???
Cat is cute, for that reason Im in.. Cat if u see this comment, please pm me here I will invest in your business
Like she needs a pervert investor
These are amazing, I'm not sure how long they last though.
They are supposed to last a year.
I think that's bollocks, myself. Kids, cats, spillages, it getting too hot...
Basically, just use kitchen foil. Relatively cheap, easily recyclable and, if you're careful, reasonably reuseable.
I don't like them. I'm a clinger until a better cling comes along for me. 🥴
Well she was such a really nice an Quiet Lady , not usually see someone like that.
Cant help but think of Death Stranding when she says BB :3
Kate may not have secured investment, but she has one of the nicest smiles I've seen in years.
You need to get out more
Have you been in a coma?
@@Deleted11100 Let's see your smile...
cringe
TH-cam caption put Theo Paphitis as Theopa Fetus.
Waxed paper been around for years😂🤣
Did she grow the business without the dragons?
What a nice woman, best of luck Kath. I see this business is growing, now has 8 or more employed and looks to be making the mark they hoped for in their nasty clingfilm eradication journey. As the Dragons said, its a good small business but with little room for an investor - who would want a good return, of course.
vomit
'The swarm of offers'. I might ditch a favourite series if this buffoon doesn't quit with the lousy puns.
that's the whole point of the show, Andrew.
Can Theo come back be awesome
Who’s watching this in 2016?
🐝 careful
do you drink just juice?
we got our own fruits so, we make our own juice
you heard just dance?
we got our own moves so
have you seen justice league?
we got our own heroes sooooo
also who thinks Deborah makes her own glue?? and covid medicine.
Very interesting profuct
Lots of cellulite going on here b
The woman is so affable, surprised she didn't get an investment.
Also her way of talking is so apple like.
Me: my screen is broken.
Genius bar: oh yeah, it is, isn't it? That's not good to see.
It's so "I'm with you, I agree with you" that it's irritating.
I've been using my good old lunchbox for over twenty years.
Stinge lol joke lol
You don't wrap your sandwiches? Straight into a 20 year old lunchbox... Grim
@@chillywilly541 ever heard of soap and water
@@Stinky_Suzie you keep using your soap and water with your decades old lunchbox peasant
@@chillywilly541 I don't have a lunchbox
Cute girl 👧
She has a long ish stare it seems.
Is this episode actually before 2 months? Dragon den confuses me.. some videos been uploaded since few months and days but actually dates back a decade.. so what ? Tell you silly dragon admin
I am old enough to remember when clingfilm wasn’t regularly available and people wrapped food in grease proof paper. The price on something like this has to be under £1.
People who start businesses without ever checking what their competition makes in profit is one thing. To go and ask for investment, having never done so, is so weird lol
I like that his product AND I’ve seen it, looked at it in store but WAY WAY too expensive. £9.99 is too much for 3 pieces but I’d stretch to it! £7.50 and they’d fly out! The store said they were slow movers!
Beeswax isn't vegan.
debra has bees, of course she does
Cling film what is that
1:11 - Start
Does this girl say anything else besides “mmhmm,” “ok.”
Looked more like a napkin imo