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  • @PapaSarto
    @PapaSarto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Ohhhhh Mr Peter! How can you lead this poor lady on like that? That is just not right, sir! 😥

  • @GenerallDRK
    @GenerallDRK 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Not a fan about them turning dragons den into shark tank 😂.
    The reason i like both variants is because one is laid back and colorful and the other more serious and gritty looking.

    • @alexanderwiles2003
      @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      i wouldnt even say its normally gritty but yeah its a real decay of an amazing series (and personally i really dislike shark tank)

    • @Arnold1nspiration
      @Arnold1nspiration 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed. This was shark tank vibes and they’re telling the dragons to essentially up sale. Not a fan. I hate shark tank. I want British dd. Will have to stop watching if they go full woke style American

    • @Idkchangethislater
      @Idkchangethislater หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Arnold1nspirationWhat do you mean Woke style?

    • @pabloherrera8964
      @pabloherrera8964 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Idkchangethislater you throw 'woke' word into everything you disagree with nowadays. Fashionable.

  • @seanrtkelly
    @seanrtkelly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    It is an absolute winning combination. The problem is £4.99 is just too high, it's better to buy a bar or dairy milk for £2 and a packet of crisps for £1 and shove them both in your mouth at the same time. You also get to try an infinite amount of chocolate to crisp combinations then as well, rather than the three on offer.

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wrong. The Bar of Crisps is delicious and worth it❤

  • @markcollins4654
    @markcollins4654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    ''NOTHING AVAILABLE???'' Taytos crisps and Cadburys Chocolate in Ireland has been doing this collaboration for years.

    • @stinameaner
      @stinameaner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's Ireland thought, might be hard to get it in England

    • @markcollins4654
      @markcollins4654 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@stinameaner you think its hard to get something from Ireland to England ?

    • @wge621
      @wge621 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well importing regardless is a very different experience from buying in the shops. It's very possible she's never seen either of your examples

  • @akeljounesakel4001
    @akeljounesakel4001 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    '' You are literally boring '' haha Peter is high on chocolate!

  • @Rdon_Ranger
    @Rdon_Ranger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I love a crisp & chocolate combo, I will definitely be looking into this snack 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @natashaing4999
    @natashaing4999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Steven’s face when he tried them 😂😂😂

  • @GrandSenator
    @GrandSenator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    LMAO peter jones gotta love that guy the addiction of her chocolate id 100% buy this to try it "who cares about numbers"

    • @s.adams239
      @s.adams239 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How was it?

  • @kevinchadwick9108
    @kevinchadwick9108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    We had a similar product in Ireland for a few months if I recall. The popular Irish crisp Tayto in a chocolate bar form. Don’t think it went down well with the public so it was discontinued. I loved it however

    • @craigpardy6204
      @craigpardy6204 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, half a bar was all i could eat and then it was to much.

    • @chriswhamilton
      @chriswhamilton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@craigpardy6204and the bars they sold were already fairly small.

    • @dcrozier02
      @dcrozier02 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Ireland, Putting chocolate into crisps is the equivalent of Italians putting Pineapple onto Pizza. Frowned upon.

  • @KimmimaruSai
    @KimmimaruSai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this is the funniest dragons den clip ive ever seen across all franchises

  • @shifty220
    @shifty220 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    royce chocolate crisps/chips in Japan are similar and are ammazing!

    • @withinjapan2024
      @withinjapan2024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly nothing new here

    • @blessedpapa
      @blessedpapa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its been available for years and in a superior presentation to hers, there are even cheaper copycats in Asia, though I believe there is not vinegar or cheese flavour in the chips so she did do something "new".

    • @alexanderwiles2003
      @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blessedpapa still not new because there is a scottish one of these that failed that did have salt and vinegar and cheese and onion flavours (they are common english flavours)

  • @Lommy9999
    @Lommy9999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Peter was disappointing at the end.

  • @twizzian
    @twizzian หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love Peter’s suit

  • @bertamas
    @bertamas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Have you ever tried white sandwich with nocilla ( spanish nutella) and salty crisps.. is what my friends and I were eating when we were very young ..

  • @paramedicchrisbookseries
    @paramedicchrisbookseries 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You did amazing and are going to go from success to success. Well done.

  • @hillaryhedglen8584
    @hillaryhedglen8584 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ooohhhh i have eaten chocolate and chips together and i gasped when she said what it was!! i am as excited as peter!!

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Bar of Crisps is delicious and worth it❤

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm with Steven on this. I can't say that it appeals. There again, when I was growing up, as with many Welsh farm households at the time, a 3pm break whilst making hay often consisted of a cup of tea or barley water with jelly and ice cream and buttered sliced bread. On different plates, but typically simultaneously eaten together. I never understood the concept and would first eat the buttered bread, before eating the jelly and ice cream. This chocolate and crisps combination just reminds me of that weird summertime break time snack.

  • @jembartlett
    @jembartlett หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lighting and editing got so much better on this show over the years

  • @rogerreed905
    @rogerreed905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here in Hamilton in NZ we had a chocolate factory that did choccy coated crisps . Nice . Realy nice . .

  • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
    @user-bk9fk2tq2z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love all the Dragons Den series, including this one.

  • @pfever
    @pfever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried chocolate and chips more than a decacade ago in Japan as a souvenir. The famous Japanese chocolate brand called Royce sells chips completely covered in Chocolate. I just bought them once out of curiosity, not my thing.

  • @ndudashme7541
    @ndudashme7541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow Peter

  • @mattwriggt4503
    @mattwriggt4503 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always loved dragons den, but miss Duncan, he was the best 👍

  • @carolinemarshall9255
    @carolinemarshall9255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic idea can't wait to try them.❤

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Bar of Crisps is delicious and worth it❤

  • @EnglishInfidel
    @EnglishInfidel 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember having this in about 2011 already

  • @S-rn6xn
    @S-rn6xn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dairy milk have a ritz bar, probably quite similar

  • @doctortrax
    @doctortrax หลายเดือนก่อน

    We found them in the clearance section in a local garden centre for £2.50 and decided to try one. We wouldn't pay £2.50 for them again, let alone £4.99. The texture was too crumbly (the bar was in pieces by the time we got home and it was only in my handbag) and I expected to taste potato crisps, but didn't. The salt & vinegar flavour came through, but it was strange-weird, not interesting-weird, even though we both LIKE weird combos. :(

  • @seangeoghegan719
    @seangeoghegan719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tayto done this years ago no?

  • @user-wm3ui9zn2p
    @user-wm3ui9zn2p 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have them in ireland

  • @photolife8511
    @photolife8511 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    We call him Mr.Brown the dream Killer 😂

  • @watfordbros5440
    @watfordbros5440 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    It’s really starting to frustrate me how naive and annoying Steven is getting. He’s a clueless dragon and just making enemies

    • @thingstodoinguernseychanne4950
      @thingstodoinguernseychanne4950 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, put it on his channel, so he sees it. That's what everyone else does. Yeah, You're right, but I think some of it comes to being a. Big heade since he made these millions at a young age, so he thinks it's above everyone else. And knows everything

    • @MortivationNation
      @MortivationNation 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      think your forgetting he invested into an amazing chocolate company on this show so he wouldnt invest in this.

    • @Aeviae
      @Aeviae 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think he is trying to play the role of the dragon rather than this being his actual personality. I thik he feels insecure about his age and is overcompensating for that by being extra vocal. I think in a few years he will look back and cringe at these clips.

    • @kobusvanstaden3747
      @kobusvanstaden3747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I really dislike him MASSIVELY

    • @alexanderwiles2003
      @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      he didn't make any enemies here and hes actually very friendly with peter. what about this episode made you think hes clueless? because he didn't like a crisps chocolate bar??

  • @user-sb1dn7ex7f
    @user-sb1dn7ex7f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My comment may seem naive, could I just not purchase a slab of chocolate and a bag of crisps and mix together before eating ? What is is point of this product?

  • @patobrien6364
    @patobrien6364 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tayto crisp company did this in Ireland,20 years ago. It's nothing new, just copying what others did 😉

  • @AliKhan-yx1dy
    @AliKhan-yx1dy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Snickers and cheese and onion crisp thats next level

  • @jarednil69
    @jarednil69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    STEVEN doesn't contribute much to the show. He rarely invests, It would be nice if they replaced him.

    • @masonldn8647
      @masonldn8647 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You have been watching ? He has become the main star her and she has invested morethan TS / DM and whatever the younger lady is called

  • @LukeMaximoBell1
    @LukeMaximoBell1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to try these!!

  • @paulakerrigan2783
    @paulakerrigan2783 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love cheese and onion crisps and chocolate together

  • @yellowroselola
    @yellowroselola 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy what a Barb move

  • @D-REN
    @D-REN 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet a sweet chilli crisp flavour would be good

  • @angelafahy4531
    @angelafahy4531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gank option was here in Ireland sales were poor and the product was awful

  • @R.W.S.
    @R.W.S. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm with Steven. I mean, yeah you might be able to turn a bit of a profit on it at first, but the gimmick of it will die out fast.
    Plus, 1) It's no different than eating a bar of chocolate and a bag of crisps at the same time (and anyone you see doing that you'd consider to be a right lard arse). 2) Isn't there enough sugary, fatty crap out there causing diabetes and obesity levels to skyrocket without this woman throwing her two pence in.

  • @tomoneill2645
    @tomoneill2645 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dairy milk and tangy cheese Doritos 🤔😅

  • @Uvray
    @Uvray 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely would buy it and try it. And I suspect I will like it. And it's a perfect "Marmite" style marketing opportunity.

  • @ChristcentredNaturalgee
    @ChristcentredNaturalgee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I made my own version of this and it’s delicious.

  • @frumiousgaming
    @frumiousgaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want to try these but I think they should redesign the packaging

  • @tashaax1993xanimalloverx
    @tashaax1993xanimalloverx 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Omg me and my cousin used to eat mini cheddars dipped in melted chocolate as kids can't believe we could have invented this lol but actual crisps seem a bit much lol and yes Peter i also get chocolate sweats 😂 someone finally gets it 😂😂

  • @alexanderwiles2003
    @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    150% with steven on this, its grim and its better to enjoy some crisps and then some chocolate. i would be convinced she was a nutcase if the other dragons didnt all back her so hard

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Bar of Crisps is actually delicious and worth it❤

  • @LeMerch
    @LeMerch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has been done, in Ireland - by a company called Tayto.

    • @Finty290
      @Finty290 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      G'way! When? Where? What!?

    • @callunaherissonne662
      @callunaherissonne662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Finty290 In 2013, a Butlers and Tayto joint effort.

  • @davidb9806
    @davidb9806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She needs to expand the business into more Novelty/experimenta snacks

  • @beodi
    @beodi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nothing on the market. Have you heard of Tayto chocolate?

  • @Katieawfc15
    @Katieawfc15 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would definitely try them, chocolate and crisps are so good together, ice cream and crisps are great too.

    • @BitterSweetBarb
      @BitterSweetBarb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WE HAVE CHOCOLAT3E COVERED CRISPS (WE CALL THEM CHIPS, LOL) AND THEY ARE SURPRISINGLY GOOD AND OMG I HONESTLY THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD WHO LOVED CHIPS AND ICE CREAM :)

  • @angelakelly3679
    @angelakelly3679 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    isn't chocolate flavoured crisps the same as chocolate with crisps inside it? yet the woman pitching said chocolate flavoured crisps would be bonkers?? Same thing in my opinion mashed together.

  • @thomasbingham9648
    @thomasbingham9648 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Want to go really naughty? Home fried chips 🍟 and melted chocolate no salt and vinegar. Befor you mock it try it. Had it in 🇮🇹 been making it at 🇬🇧 ever since 😊
    Thank me later

  • @tea_34121
    @tea_34121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve seen so many Dragon’s Den videos with Steven in it and I’ve never seen him make an offer lol

    • @ArtemKonstantinovich
      @ArtemKonstantinovich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think I saw it one time… omg is he the new Jenny Campbell?

    • @petrumaika8958
      @petrumaika8958 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's made loads of offers not sure what u been smoking

    • @alexanderwiles2003
      @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i have. hes done 16 investments actually

  • @raw_riot_6917
    @raw_riot_6917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd like to try one

  • @ajjoshi
    @ajjoshi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m on the only one who’s been putting Maltesers in my crisp packet for years

  • @omc5585
    @omc5585 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Salt and vinegar and chocolate.

  • @brandonvernet
    @brandonvernet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This stuff has been around in Japan for ages. Nothing new.

  • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
    @user-bk9fk2tq2z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Delicious

  • @canag0d
    @canag0d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a good idea but not as good as my idea of combining peanuts and bubble gum.

    • @claudineee6071
      @claudineee6071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      god help you 😂

  • @musictest9999
    @musictest9999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just microwave come chocolate and throw in some crushed crisps and cool it in the fridge

  • @ENSNinjaaa
    @ENSNinjaaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Japan has been doing crisp's dipped in chocolate (or chips for you americans) for years 😁

  • @Devik666
    @Devik666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that really unusual in 2024 😂

  • @divyapillai10
    @divyapillai10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Royce has been doing this for years

  • @smlipg5462
    @smlipg5462 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact she said did research and found nothing she must have been doing it with her eyes closed as its been done years ago here in the uk and they even re-released it just a year or so ago 😂 it was literally a couple of quid too so cheaper than hers.

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong.The Bar of Crisps is delicious and worth it❤

    • @netayconnection6236
      @netayconnection6236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ianharrodlondon Stop spamming and repeating your comment

    • @ianharrodlondon
      @ianharrodlondon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@netayconnection6236 Sorry, I didn't realise you were the Internet Police. My most sincere apologies. Xxxxxxxxxx

  • @michelledoolan4035
    @michelledoolan4035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tayto did this a few years ago and it was disgusting. It was not a good seller. Hence it was discontinued.

  • @BenjaminGoose
    @BenjaminGoose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Peter's trying way too hard here.

  • @Brendan45600
    @Brendan45600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No need for Steven to be callous about her product. "For weirdos"

  • @rawan2709
    @rawan2709 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm genuinely surprised at the claim that there was nothing like chocolate with crisps on the market??
    There like 10 variants with different kinds of krisps and flavours where i live even in the very low end brands this is actually so shocking to hear

  • @Roswell33
    @Roswell33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds horrid, but then I'm not a fan of combining savoury and sweet at all

  • @NuttyJun
    @NuttyJun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even Chocolates & Crisps combined ain't tastier than the way Deborah Meadon is looking this episode 😍😍😈😈

  • @selenadeane5522
    @selenadeane5522 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TAYTO Ireland tried that too, wasn't very successful.

  • @ironryan36
    @ironryan36 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m with Steven. Keep them separate. I wouldn’t even try it.

  • @sandymclean9630
    @sandymclean9630 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    peter was gutting 🙄🙄 after his excitement

  • @user-bk9fk2tq2z
    @user-bk9fk2tq2z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with Steven, that crisps and chocolates should be separately eaten...for me anyway.

  • @MortivationNation
    @MortivationNation 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not sure how I feel about that

  • @lissi88
    @lissi88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    **Stoners have entered the chat.**

  • @barneylaurance1865
    @barneylaurance1865 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So this company isn't a manufacturer - the manufacturing is outsourced. It's not inventing the chocolate with crisps today, they've already been invented yesterday. So what does the business actually DO? Where does it sit in the value chain? No-one ever seems to tell us on this show.

  • @vl1180
    @vl1180 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reese’s stole her idea

  • @fassahspeakstv9788
    @fassahspeakstv9788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0-3:28

  • @PeoplesChoiceofficial
    @PeoplesChoiceofficial 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THIS FORMAT IS NOT GOOD !

  • @withinjapan2024
    @withinjapan2024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They sold chocolate chips in Japan for decades this is nothing new and not her idea

  • @user-ce6uq3dn9o
    @user-ce6uq3dn9o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to eat McDonalds fries dipped in their chocolate milkshake. Delicious! This idea is CRAP.

    • @tuahabadar
      @tuahabadar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👀

    • @user-ce6uq3dn9o
      @user-ce6uq3dn9o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It sounds awful but its really nice 😂

    • @user-ce6uq3dn9o
      @user-ce6uq3dn9o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😄@@tuahabadar

  • @puzZzlewithpans
    @puzZzlewithpans 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They are horrible how can they lead her on like that

  • @Magikin
    @Magikin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I miss the old Den.
    Where the entrepreneurs were really grilled. Now it's just woke

    • @mauromatos3124
      @mauromatos3124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Woke. Why, how why... Explain person

    • @knuckalar
      @knuckalar หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mauromatos3124it’s awful now, no inventions everything’s just food or skincare and everyone’s all smiley and cheery

  • @shahedmc9656
    @shahedmc9656 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What ? 😮

  • @mallorymaina6400
    @mallorymaina6400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Firstly, this was wrongly pitched! if she got the pricing a lot lower she could have pitched it as the next meal deal replacement snack coz that is where the opportunity lies. SHE JUST NEEDED TO SOLVE THAT AND SHE'D BE A BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a lost opportunity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mallorymaina6400
      @mallorymaina6400 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Steve Bartlett, it was never about the taste (biggest disappointment). You had an opportunity and you fucked it!!

  • @localshopkeeper9517
    @localshopkeeper9517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The new studio is horrible.

  • @delki69
    @delki69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idea has already done
    She stealing an idea

  • @jzilla1234
    @jzilla1234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That diary of ceo guy keeps trying to be inspirational, just come off as a David brent type

  • @KajalRughani
    @KajalRughani 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steven is so immature, he needs to seriously grow up

  • @iz723
    @iz723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn peters getting old

  • @chrissilvester5663
    @chrissilvester5663 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Steven seriously annoys the hell out of me. He spends more time bloody critcising & saying he's out. He's like the male version of Jenny

    • @alexanderwiles2003
      @alexanderwiles2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      to be fair hes made loads of investments and if he didnt have so much to critisise then it would be something he would invest in

  • @manot87
    @manot87 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brits inventing new British foods...

  • @Dylan-D149
    @Dylan-D149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tayto copycat

    • @angelafahy4531
      @angelafahy4531 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Know what happened there ,nor many were sold ,the combination just did not work .the after taste was horrible

  • @TrainNkill
    @TrainNkill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Steven comes across so arrogant

  • @Sharmel80
    @Sharmel80 หลายเดือนก่อน

    she was on channel 4, aldis- the next best with anita rani. hmmmm( channel 4 food), she could not upscale and was told, too expensive.

  • @HeatSeekingMouse
    @HeatSeekingMouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is Gary Neville?? And Tej??