I bought a G6 because of space issues and love it. So much packed into a super tiny foot print and the quality is great. Putting together was 8 hours just me using my tools to speed it up. Really love the leg press attachment for the smith bar! To get around the 2:1 ratio for rowing and pull downs I got Bare Steel stack pin. The 2:1 is still the way to go with all the trainer attachments it comes with. So darn cool! My boxes were similarly exploded. Just a little powder coat damage on the frame but the shipping company was great about documenting in case I ended up needing something since it was impossible to tell on delivery.
Same... it's so much better. This looks like a cheap chrome lesser version. Also, 50" width?! Barbell work would suck, as your plates would hit so often re-racking.
They have one ad that goes about one and a half minutes. There is a young lady working out on it who is quite capable at using the rack. It is one commercial that I let run for the whole time and really shows the potential of the unit.
I would very much appreciate if you could include the metric measurements as an overlay when you mention anything inches. It would help us international viewers, who also appreciates home gym equipment from the land of CONUS. Thank you 👍
Definitely spot on at the beginning. Went from powerblocks and a squat rack with hi/low pulleys to an inspire scs and Dumbbell wall. Was an excellent upgrade
Great review! I always appreciate your honesty. I don't think this rack is for me. I'll stick with my Titan X3, but I just enjoy seeing different equipment.
I’d love to see a review for one of these in that $1000 to $1500 price range…. On a leverage gym in the same price range…. I don’t see anyone doing these
No one is doing reviews because there is nothing out there at $1000-$1500 pricepoint with this upgrade quality ( 3×3 and 11 gauge steel) The only thing I've seen is Walmart has 3 or 4 options. They are Major Lutie or Elevtab, they have 13 to 14 gauge steel and are 2x2 structure. They are power racks though with a cable system and have the foot boards for rows, landmine attachment, safety pins, and J Cups that come with it. They run from $719.99 to $854.99 I believe it is. Only one of them comes with laser numbering and it is the $719.99 version. I was in the same price range u are talking about but the lowest price I could get to was around $2000.00 That is getting a decent power rack ($1200) and a separate cable system ($800) and that cable system was from Titan and we all know Titan doesnt have the greatest track record of quality or service. Of course it is plate loaded as there is no selectorized cable system near our price. I was basically looking to get a cable system and then I saw I could get a cable system with a power rack, although not the best power rack, it is still s power rack with a cable system. The cable system alone costs more than the power racks with a cable system so I got the one with the laser numbering. They listed these 4 versions are on sale and normally cost $1300-$1400 so I figured I found the best deal out there. It arrives tomorrow Good Luck
I've looked into Force USA gear in the past. None of the reviews featuring their products seem very genuine and it is almost like the brand pays a whole heap of fitness influencers to talk up their gear. This is particularly true for all those videos featuring that Stevie Richards guy, I can't stand them. Thanks for doing an honest review Coop 👍.
One thing that I hear in a lot of your reviews is "what type of person would this be good for" and you may be missing an opportunity to broaden that idea to "what type of people would this be good for". I could see this piece being good for a couple who have different exercise goals or routines, or one person lifting and another rehabbing, or involving teen kids who want to start exercising, etc. You could even ask the manufacturers who they typically see buying these types of rigs. You're right that it's a very small niche of persons who this rig would be good for, but it would make sense to talk about what types of households this would be good for too. Just an idea. Love all the videos!
I have the G15Pro and I love it's 2:1/4:1 selectable ratio pulleys. Not a big fan of the smith machine but it's still decent. My only dislike about it is that is 2" x 2" uprights with 5/8" holes (And only front/rear, the side holes are even smaller). It's so difficult to find aftermarket accessories for it.
When I saw the adverts on You Tube, which go for a minute and a half and gives you a good idea of what it will do, my first question besides how much, was how do you get that in the basement and how to put it together. So thank you for explaining those details along with all your other bits of information. Quite the machine that's for sure.
Have a G1 at home, I really should have saved for a fancier varient, something with Smith options. but after 2 years it still looks like new, not a single plastic roller has broken so it is well built.
Thanks Coop. Very good and honest review. This thing is not worth the price. I bought an old Icarian Lat pull down machine, and a cheap Functional Trainer from Costco (Inspire Fitness brand). So all under $1800, I am all set.
@@dmiller4088 Inspire FTX functional trainer from Costco was on sale for $1100 free delivery. It has two 165 lb weight stacks (I won't be able to lift all 165 lbs for my cable crossover exercise). I needed one for tricep Press Downs and Cable crossovers. Not bad for home gym. Very space efficient.
@@alivideo403 ya I bought it in the stores for that price too. I just picked up the squat rack also. I don't need anything crazy. Sounds good. Thanks man
I was 99 percent going for prime fitness single column and the other day saw the Ares form Rep Fitness and was actually impressed. Now I'm really looking on spending that money on the Ares. Great video, this wouldn't be for me.
You are right, I don't see what this does that the Rep Ares can't do...I am still surprised Rogue hasn't done a better job with this style of rack/functional trainer combo...YET.
Great review, glad to finally see something on ForceUSA. Why have we never gotten an Ironmaster Im2000 review? With Coop’s love of other Ironmaster products and the fact that the rack seems to be designed specifically for home gyms, I would have expected to see something on it by now
Coop, the review was very good. I'm not a big fan of the camera work, those side shots while you are talking are just weird to me. I was kinda surprised at the end of the video where your comments came off as being very negative, but I do understand, those lat pull downs would be very difficult for a guy my size. Thank you for all your time and effort.
I've watched the REP Ares engineering videos and looked at their photos... etc. The Ares blows this out of the water. Crazy they have 50" width to... you would hit your plates every time you re-rack. Chrome looks a bit cheap, the holes on the side don't allow for modularity... 140lbs for a lat pull down or low row is silly. All for like $7,500+ with shipping and some attachments... no thanks.
you were able to see the chrome on the video? lmfao get real , the REP Ares is just as expensive once you buy that and the rack plus all the attachments , its the same price , plus the X20 looks a lot nicer , its very good quality, and you get 2 stacks , you can alway get a pin for additional olympic weights on the stack for rowing.
@@shotklrshotklr702 lol what? Let's put looks aside... there are so many design flaws with this thing. 50" width - bad. Low weight for lat pull down low row - bad. Stuck with their odd sized and not great attachments - bad. I have no idea how you think it's a good product for $7,500+. You even said it yourself... you have to get a pin for additional plates because... it's a bad design lol. So you have to spend EVEN more money on top of the $7,500 and have slower weight changes - which is the whole point of the sectorized system.... and with those shrouds, it might not even work well. This product is silly and caters to people who want an all-in-one solution that kind of sucks. No wonder Coop did not recommend it.
COOP!!!! “Bodycraft RFT Rack” really similar to this and should be better at a better price point. You should totally review that one! If you can even get your hands on one!
Can you do a review of the cheap power racks on Amazon that have functional cable trainers on them? Like the Mikalo or Major Lutie? Thanks! Love your content!
Thanks for the review Coop I really appreciate it. I have been looking for a all in on functional trainer for my garage. I don't have a lot of room but need something that will do a little of everything.
At the price...... go with the Prime Fitness Prodigy Rack. I can't speak enough of how fucking amazing the rack is. I have the selectorized version..... that comes with 350 lb stacks!!! It's a primo piece and costs the same as this offering from ForceUSA..... and just doing an eyeball test - it looks like Prime's offering is built more like a tank..... not that it looks like this FOrceUSA rack is going anywhere. The Prime is just..... mwah. It's perfection. When I finally stumbled on the Prime Prodigy Rack it was like opening the case in Pulp fiction. It's the rack I've ALWAYS pictured in my head as being the IDEAL rack. It takes up less a footprint than a 6 post rack, it's a half rack, it's a solid functional trainer..... that also has a fixed high pulley at a 1:1 ratio so you pretty much have a legit high pulley machine for lat pulldowns and the like. It''s just.... perfection. This offering from Force looks solid too.... I can only speak for Prime though as I own one and do NOT regret buying it whatsoever even though it cost me an arm and a leg. I sold my Rogue RML690 for $2,000 though so the actual gut punch to my wallet wasn't too bad. I think with all the attachments I bought when I initially bought the Prime Prodigy Selectorized Rack was about $7,500. The base rack alone costs $5500...... this ForeUSA base price is..... $6,000. Just saying. As for the Ares. I guess if you own a Rep rack it's a nice add on item..... For like $2,800. I guess if you don't have the space for the CHEAPER Rep Functional trainer it makes sense.... I guess. Whatever you go with.... I feel the Prodigy Rack, this ForceUSA offering, and the Ares are all better options than Rogue's Cave system they came out with. That's insanely priced and has a much larger footprint.... and when you get the uprights you really want - IF you can get the uprights you really want (pretty limited if you have short ceilings if memory serves last I checked). I do like the wider uprights so you could do legitimate cable crossovers, but man. It's big and it's DAMN pricey. At the end of the day I still feel like the Prodigy rack is hard to beat. Yes I am biased. But for the Rep and Ares fanboys..... Sell your rack and get the Prodigy and you'll be convinced - I guarantee it. And if you get the like $230 50lb stack add on plates to get the Ares up to a SINGLE 350 lb stack.... that's over $3,000...... for a rack add on item. Yikes. The Prodigy comes with a 350 lb stack..... TWO of them. For $5500. Just saying. It's why if someone who is seriously looking at the Ares who already owns a Rep Rack that the Ares will work on I'd recommend just selling your Rack for like $800-$1,000...... and get the Prodigy. I mean at that point it would cost you $4500-$4700 once you factor in the money you got for your rack..... that's only $1500-1700 more than the Ares ATTACHMENT and the Prodigy can do more.... and do it better. But I get cost is always the stumbling block for most people and $3,000 is always less than $4500-5500.... or more once you start adding Prodigy attachments. Personally though..... I'm thinking if people are willing to shell out $2700-3000 for just a rack attachment; selling their current rack and buying the prodigy for $5500 won't scare them too much. Side note..... just noticing this is a full rack with stacks. And the X15 is what I should be comping to the Prodigy Rack. In that case - the ForceUSA is slightly the better deal as the X15 comes in at "only" $5,000 to the Prodigy's $5,500 price tag...... Still team Prime all the way. It's just a stellar rack system. I am almost tempted to get the Prodigy plate loaded rack just because I want to check out the black physics magic they use to change the adjustable pulley ratio from 2:1 to 4:1 by simply inserting or removing a pin down on the bottom. Oh... and that Prime Prodigy plate loaded rack..... comes in at $4,850...... so you could still say Prime is the better option.... depending on what option from Prime you go with, haha. And while you'd be sacrificing the selectorized super ease of use and quickness for a plate loaded version..... again, the Prodigy plate loaded has a pin you insert or remove to make the adjustable upright pulley go from a 4:1 to a 2:1 ratio or vice versa...... whenever you feel like it. What!? Prime.... FTW in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, the alternatives out there are pretty cool in their own right...... but again, Prime - mwah *chef's kiss*
Can you please review bolt fitness supply out of houston tx? Their equipment looks like its good quality for a much cheaper price tag. They have some really cool looking adjustable dumbells as well. They have a good stock of items they offer from what I can see. Thanks man!
Coop, you need to review the Gympin. It completely allows you to circumvent the weight limitations to the 2:1 ratio on the lat pulldown and low row. Also the new model has a separate lat pulldown/row attachment that you can buy, that is 1:1.
If you want a cable setup for full range of cable exercises whats better value play - a Rep Aries setup or standalone cable setup? Separately - GHDs or GHD hybrid with reverse hyper - any comparison on different brand versions. It would seem like a good idea to have the hybrid version but does it work as well as advertised (Titan/Rogue). Especially for garage guys - is it worth the space it takes up?
This is so confusing. Thanks for your review btw. I’m limited to 87” height and trying to decide between force c10 and rep area 2.0. For the money the c10 seems a better deal. Is build quality similar?
It took 3 guys 5 hours. I've built one of these by myself in 8 hours but I also build G-Forces for a living. The assembly part is straight forward, its the unpacking & moving to the build location. Hate that part especially when I'm by myself.
Any recommendations for pulley systems, besides DIY, for those of us with Rogue R3 racks with the 2 x 3 posts? Bummer that Rogue has moved away from supporting theses racks with accessories.
I would check out the Bodycraft RFT Pro which is very similar to this for under $4,000. Also Tuff Stuff out of California is coming out with a new version of their CPR-265x with a similar configuration
I have an idea for a review video. Seeing how you're on TH-cam, you could do a review on the equipment company's TH-cam channels. Comparing their different channels to each other. For instance, REP is really good about introducing their new products on TH-cam and you have Titan put out a video of alternating hammer curls. I like both companies but it's apparent which one is better about showing us their new equipment on TH-cam. Me personally I think with all the strives Titan has made becoming a better company they don't do as good of a job showing us their equipment. I don't know let me know what you think.
Hard to believe there’s no UHMW plastics on the attachments, especially with Chrome. I’m very happy with my ForceUSA MyRack w/ candle attachments, but for this price, they need to step up the features. 50” is mind boggling dumb as well. Not sure how any manufacturer can put out a new product that doesn’t take into account the feedback about Rogue’s dimensions.
I bought the G20 a few months ago before this was available and have some regrets but overall I like the versatility of the G20. Quality is a little below par and the 2x2 uprights are annoying. I've hacked my cables and converted to 2:1 ratio. Took me 10 hours to assemble with my wife so those 'pros' who assembled for you are taking the piss. Good review though
I am just starting to look into power racks and I am just starting to understand them and every company have different attachments. In theory, it doesn't matter (excluding the quality question for the moment) brand of rack you get, correct? You can frankensteinize them by getting the attachments from the different brands you want as long as it has the right hole size, 3x3 up rights, and in some cases the same cross member's width?
I second the motion for a TYTAX T3X review. There are so many attachment points and cables tho! Might have to get a degree just to figure out how to hook everything up lol. It does seem to be able to do everything tho, and smoothly.
The ratio does affect the travel. If the handle has 1/2 the load of the stack, the handle must travel 2x the change in height of the stack. This is because Work = Force x distance The work done at the stack is the same as the work done at the handle.
3 guys took 5 hours to assemble it, so that's 15 hours work. I don't know if it would even be possible to assemble this alone but it's just to give an estimate of how long it may take.
Up here in Toronto, Canada - there are a few other companies doing all in one systems - seems like of you are willing to compromise on the enclosed power rack you can get much better value
@@vasu033 inspire FT2, Inspire SF3, Atlas M810, Atlas AL 3058, Atlas AL 3059, Maxum Fitness S-150, Maxum Fitness S-90, Maxum Fitness F-190, and AmStaff Fitness sells some all in one units too.
@@steverapos3904 thank you! now you are giving me too many options..haha..You seems to be very knowledgeable. What's your prefferred machine from all these that you can buy in Ontario?
Bought a leg press/hack squat combo, and the “my bench” with the preacher and leg curl/leg extension attachments when I first started the Home gym venture. bench sucks leg press is ok, knowing what I know now after 2 years of building my gym I would have gone elsewhere.
Have you reviewed inspire fitness’ ft2 yet? I feel like the kind of person who’d wanna buy this would prefer that. Would love to see you review the ft2. I bought one after watching all your videos for years lol
They kinda treat enspire like the red headed step child of gym equipment for some odd reason, hell the whole internet does. I have their scs and absolutely love it. Especially connecting the pulleys to the leg attachment so you can do hammy curls and extensions. It is a beautiful piece of machinery
@@matthewmurphy5543 I’m surprised because he’s so pro safety bars from a friend passing. You literally can’t squat/bench without the safety set. Big win from me. Definitely pricey, but I literally don’t need to worry about buying any other piece of equipment - aside from a place to dip haha. That is certainly missing from the machine.
I don't really know who this is marketed for. It combines multiple things (power rack, storage, cables etc.) but won't do any of them as well as the standalone alternatives which, if bought separately, will work out cheaper. Probably significantly cheaper too. The only person I see this being of value to is someone who is so short of space that they need an all in one. But then is the person short on space going to be splashing $6k on a gym equipment? Perhaps it's for the person living in a flat who chose location over space, I don't know. But there can't be many of those people out there who want a home gym, surely?
Wow after teasing screen shots of force USA stuff for years.. you finally review something of theirs. It’s a miracle!!
I bought a G6 because of space issues and love it. So much packed into a super tiny foot print and the quality is great. Putting together was 8 hours just me using my tools to speed it up. Really love the leg press attachment for the smith bar! To get around the 2:1 ratio for rowing and pull downs I got Bare Steel stack pin. The 2:1 is still the way to go with all the trainer attachments it comes with. So darn cool! My boxes were similarly exploded. Just a little powder coat damage on the frame but the shipping company was great about documenting in case I ended up needing something since it was impossible to tell on delivery.
I CANT WAIT FOR THE ARES REVIEW!!!
Yes but knowing Rep it will never be in stock.
@@bmstylee haha everyone wants their stuff. Seems to be best value!
@@bmstylee Kabuki seems to be even worse.
@@cleezus1 that's one way to look at it. Maybe if it wasn't all imported they might actually have supply.
Same... it's so much better. This looks like a cheap chrome lesser version. Also, 50" width?! Barbell work would suck, as your plates would hit so often re-racking.
Me here patiently waiting for the REP ARES reviews to start coming in now that they're shipping out 🙏🙏
Sheesh that collection of unassembled parts was crazy. I have always been curious about the ForceUSA racks, so this review was super cool.
I've been seeing ads for their racks for weeks now! They certainly look super cool but also super expensive!! Thanks for reviewing these!
They have one ad that goes about one and a half minutes. There is a young lady working out on it who is quite capable at using the rack. It is one commercial that I let run for the whole time and really shows the potential of the unit.
Love your stuff man! Tryng to put together a setup now and all your videos are a difference maker.
I would very much appreciate if you could include the metric measurements as an overlay when you mention anything inches. It would help us international viewers, who also appreciates home gym equipment from the land of CONUS.
Thank you 👍
Definitely spot on at the beginning. Went from powerblocks and a squat rack with hi/low pulleys to an inspire scs and Dumbbell wall. Was an excellent upgrade
Great review! I always appreciate your honesty. I don't think this rack is for me. I'll stick with my Titan X3, but I just enjoy seeing different equipment.
I’d love to see a review for one of these in that $1000 to $1500 price range…. On a leverage gym in the same price range…. I don’t see anyone doing these
I’m surprised Coop hasn’t reviewed the levergym by powertec. Homegymhacksandreviews has a ton of videos on it.
@@Tiltissaved agree
No one is doing reviews because there is nothing out there at $1000-$1500 pricepoint with this upgrade quality ( 3×3 and 11 gauge steel)
The only thing I've seen is Walmart has 3 or 4 options. They are Major Lutie or Elevtab, they have 13 to 14 gauge steel and are 2x2 structure. They are power racks though with a cable system and have the foot boards for rows, landmine attachment, safety pins, and J Cups that come with it. They run from $719.99 to $854.99 I believe it is. Only one of them comes with laser numbering and it is the $719.99 version.
I was in the same price range u are talking about but the lowest price I could get to was around $2000.00 That is getting a decent power rack ($1200) and a separate cable system ($800) and that cable system was from Titan and we all know Titan doesnt have the greatest track record of quality or service. Of course it is plate loaded as there is no selectorized cable system near our price.
I was basically looking to get a cable system and then I saw I could get a cable system with a power rack, although not the best power rack, it is still s power rack with a cable system. The cable system alone costs more than the power racks with a cable system so I got the one with the laser numbering. They listed these 4 versions are on sale and normally cost $1300-$1400 so I figured I found the best deal out there. It arrives tomorrow
Good Luck
At that range, probably best just to get a rack with lat pull down attachment. No cable crossover…but you’ll have money in your pocket
@@Tiltissaved I have it and loved it but I lift alot of weight and want to upgrade now
I've looked into Force USA gear in the past. None of the reviews featuring their products seem very genuine and it is almost like the brand pays a whole heap of fitness influencers to talk up their gear. This is particularly true for all those videos featuring that Stevie Richards guy, I can't stand them. Thanks for doing an honest review Coop 👍.
we need a head to head comparison with the prime HLP rack!
Oooh, that would be fun!
Definitely 💯
Final glad I've seen you do this review....this is what I'm looking to buy...
Yay. Been waiting so long for this review..
One thing that I hear in a lot of your reviews is "what type of person would this be good for" and you may be missing an opportunity to broaden that idea to "what type of people would this be good for". I could see this piece being good for a couple who have different exercise goals or routines, or one person lifting and another rehabbing, or involving teen kids who want to start exercising, etc. You could even ask the manufacturers who they typically see buying these types of rigs. You're right that it's a very small niche of persons who this rig would be good for, but it would make sense to talk about what types of households this would be good for too. Just an idea. Love all the videos!
I have the G15Pro and I love it's 2:1/4:1 selectable ratio pulleys. Not a big fan of the smith machine but it's still decent. My only dislike about it is that is 2" x 2" uprights with 5/8" holes (And only front/rear, the side holes are even smaller). It's so difficult to find aftermarket accessories for it.
When I saw the adverts on You Tube, which go for a minute and a half and gives you a good idea of what it will do, my first question besides how much, was how do you get that in the basement and how to put it together. So thank you for explaining those details along with all your other bits of information. Quite the machine that's for sure.
I thought this was a great review, Coop, well done!
Have a G1 at home, I really should have saved for a fancier varient, something with Smith options. but after 2 years it still looks like new, not a single plastic roller has broken so it is well built.
Thanks Coop. Very good and honest review. This thing is not worth the price. I bought an old Icarian Lat pull down machine, and a cheap Functional Trainer from Costco (Inspire Fitness brand). So all under $1800, I am all set.
How do you like the functional trainer from Costco? Mines in storage until my house is built
@@dmiller4088 Inspire FTX functional trainer from Costco was on sale for $1100 free delivery. It has two 165 lb weight stacks (I won't be able to lift all 165 lbs for my cable crossover exercise). I needed one for tricep Press Downs and Cable crossovers. Not bad for home gym. Very space efficient.
@@alivideo403 ya I bought it in the stores for that price too. I just picked up the squat rack also. I don't need anything crazy. Sounds good. Thanks man
Really interested in seeing the full G20 review. That one is on my list of potential home gym purchases.
I was 99 percent going for prime fitness single column and the other day saw the Ares form Rep Fitness and was actually impressed. Now I'm really looking on spending that money on the Ares. Great video, this wouldn't be for me.
You are right, I don't see what this does that the Rep Ares can't do...I am still surprised Rogue hasn't done a better job with this style of rack/functional trainer combo...YET.
it does a lot more lol Jesus ! do some research
@@shotklrshotklr702like what lmao
Nice review, very nice editing
Great review, glad to finally see something on ForceUSA.
Why have we never gotten an Ironmaster Im2000 review?
With Coop’s love of other Ironmaster products and the fact that the rack seems to be designed specifically for home gyms, I would have expected to see something on it by now
I've been asking this for years. At this point it seems apparent that he has something against it. I own it, and an inspire FTX and love that combo
Probably because it’s a smith machine
The 4 post ares option is going to be a game changer.
Coop, the review was very good. I'm not a big fan of the camera work, those side shots while you are talking are just weird to me. I was kinda surprised at the end of the video where your comments came off as being very negative, but I do understand, those lat pull downs would be very difficult for a guy my size. Thank you for all your time and effort.
This channels quality has ⬆️⬆️⬆️ 🚀
I've watched the REP Ares engineering videos and looked at their photos... etc. The Ares blows this out of the water. Crazy they have 50" width to... you would hit your plates every time you re-rack. Chrome looks a bit cheap, the holes on the side don't allow for modularity... 140lbs for a lat pull down or low row is silly. All for like $7,500+ with shipping and some attachments... no thanks.
you were able to see the chrome on the video? lmfao get real , the REP Ares is just as expensive once you buy that and the rack plus all the attachments , its the same price , plus the X20 looks a lot nicer , its very good quality, and you get 2 stacks , you can alway get a pin for additional olympic weights on the stack for rowing.
@@shotklrshotklr702 lol what? Let's put looks aside... there are so many design flaws with this thing. 50" width - bad. Low weight for lat pull down low row - bad. Stuck with their odd sized and not great attachments - bad. I have no idea how you think it's a good product for $7,500+. You even said it yourself... you have to get a pin for additional plates because... it's a bad design lol. So you have to spend EVEN more money on top of the $7,500 and have slower weight changes - which is the whole point of the sectorized system.... and with those shrouds, it might not even work well. This product is silly and caters to people who want an all-in-one solution that kind of sucks. No wonder Coop did not recommend it.
@@shotklrshotklr702 You get two stacks with the Ares too.
I love your reviews! Very helpful :)
I'm watching a Coop video while it looks like a Coop video is playing on the screen behind him. Everyone loves Coop's videos.
Great review, I would love to see a review of the Force USA F100 vs some of the other Force USA options or other companies.
*Just get the ironamster IM2000 and the inspire FTX* *It's cheaper in cost, and better in build*
Isn't the ironmaster2000 a smith machine:( and not a true rack?
COOP!!!! “Bodycraft RFT Rack” really similar to this and should be better at a better price point. You should totally review that one! If you can even get your hands on one!
Skipped to 10:37 for pricing. $6k? I don't need to know anything else; waaaaay outside of my price range
Can you do a review of the cheap power racks on Amazon that have functional cable trainers on them? Like the Mikalo or Major Lutie? Thanks! Love your content!
Nice review, thanks 👍
50" width is pretty much a deal breaker. What were they thinking?
Thanks for the review Coop I really appreciate it. I have been looking for a all in on functional trainer for my garage. I don't have a lot of room but need something that will do a little of everything.
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You can get the Rep 5000 series with the lat pulldown/low row and Athena side stacks for nearly the same price.
At the price...... go with the Prime Fitness Prodigy Rack. I can't speak enough of how fucking amazing the rack is. I have the selectorized version..... that comes with 350 lb stacks!!! It's a primo piece and costs the same as this offering from ForceUSA..... and just doing an eyeball test - it looks like Prime's offering is built more like a tank..... not that it looks like this FOrceUSA rack is going anywhere. The Prime is just..... mwah. It's perfection. When I finally stumbled on the Prime Prodigy Rack it was like opening the case in Pulp fiction. It's the rack I've ALWAYS pictured in my head as being the IDEAL rack. It takes up less a footprint than a 6 post rack, it's a half rack, it's a solid functional trainer..... that also has a fixed high pulley at a 1:1 ratio so you pretty much have a legit high pulley machine for lat pulldowns and the like. It''s just.... perfection. This offering from Force looks solid too.... I can only speak for Prime though as I own one and do NOT regret buying it whatsoever even though it cost me an arm and a leg. I sold my Rogue RML690 for $2,000 though so the actual gut punch to my wallet wasn't too bad. I think with all the attachments I bought when I initially bought the Prime Prodigy Selectorized Rack was about $7,500. The base rack alone costs $5500...... this ForeUSA base price is..... $6,000. Just saying. As for the Ares. I guess if you own a Rep rack it's a nice add on item..... For like $2,800. I guess if you don't have the space for the CHEAPER Rep Functional trainer it makes sense.... I guess. Whatever you go with.... I feel the Prodigy Rack, this ForceUSA offering, and the Ares are all better options than Rogue's Cave system they came out with. That's insanely priced and has a much larger footprint.... and when you get the uprights you really want - IF you can get the uprights you really want (pretty limited if you have short ceilings if memory serves last I checked). I do like the wider uprights so you could do legitimate cable crossovers, but man. It's big and it's DAMN pricey.
At the end of the day I still feel like the Prodigy rack is hard to beat. Yes I am biased. But for the Rep and Ares fanboys..... Sell your rack and get the Prodigy and you'll be convinced - I guarantee it. And if you get the like $230 50lb stack add on plates to get the Ares up to a SINGLE 350 lb stack.... that's over $3,000...... for a rack add on item. Yikes. The Prodigy comes with a 350 lb stack..... TWO of them. For $5500. Just saying. It's why if someone who is seriously looking at the Ares who already owns a Rep Rack that the Ares will work on I'd recommend just selling your Rack for like $800-$1,000...... and get the Prodigy. I mean at that point it would cost you $4500-$4700 once you factor in the money you got for your rack..... that's only $1500-1700 more than the Ares ATTACHMENT and the Prodigy can do more.... and do it better. But I get cost is always the stumbling block for most people and $3,000 is always less than $4500-5500.... or more once you start adding Prodigy attachments. Personally though..... I'm thinking if people are willing to shell out $2700-3000 for just a rack attachment; selling their current rack and buying the prodigy for $5500 won't scare them too much.
Side note..... just noticing this is a full rack with stacks. And the X15 is what I should be comping to the Prodigy Rack. In that case - the ForceUSA is slightly the better deal as the X15 comes in at "only" $5,000 to the Prodigy's $5,500 price tag...... Still team Prime all the way. It's just a stellar rack system. I am almost tempted to get the Prodigy plate loaded rack just because I want to check out the black physics magic they use to change the adjustable pulley ratio from 2:1 to 4:1 by simply inserting or removing a pin down on the bottom. Oh... and that Prime Prodigy plate loaded rack..... comes in at $4,850...... so you could still say Prime is the better option.... depending on what option from Prime you go with, haha. And while you'd be sacrificing the selectorized super ease of use and quickness for a plate loaded version..... again, the Prodigy plate loaded has a pin you insert or remove to make the adjustable upright pulley go from a 4:1 to a 2:1 ratio or vice versa...... whenever you feel like it. What!? Prime.... FTW in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, the alternatives out there are pretty cool in their own right...... but again, Prime - mwah *chef's kiss*
Can you please review bolt fitness supply out of houston tx? Their equipment looks like its good quality for a much cheaper price tag. They have some really cool looking adjustable dumbells as well. They have a good stock of items they offer from what I can see. Thanks man!
Can you do the G12 as a review?
Wil need to try that one. Haven't used it yet. I'll see what we can do! - Coop
@@GarageGymReviews thanks Coop!
That's the one I'm hoping for too. It's the one that I'm interested in possibly changing to for space saving
When is the G20 coming? Looks awesome!
Having heard Coop mispronounce Kratos and Ares at this point is just brutal to my ears.
1:1 ratio would be nice. you can just add a length of chain to get more ROM
Coop, you need to review the Gympin. It completely allows you to circumvent the weight limitations to the 2:1 ratio on the lat pulldown and low row. Also the new model has a separate lat pulldown/row attachment that you can buy, that is 1:1.
Can you review the Aries?
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Waiting on the g20. I bought it and love it, but waiting to see what you have to say.
Can you do a review of Major Lutie pieces? Suppose ot be budget friendly but concerned it is too budget friendly....
If you want a cable setup for full range of cable exercises whats better value play - a Rep Aries setup or standalone cable setup?
Separately - GHDs or GHD hybrid with reverse hyper - any comparison on different brand versions. It would seem like a good idea to have the hybrid version but does it work as well as advertised (Titan/Rogue). Especially for garage guys - is it worth the space it takes up?
Holding out for rep ares
But I have rogue monster lite rack... Hoping to find out if the ares will be compatible with the uprights I already have
it’s not due to different widths - 47” vs 49”.
Same. The Ares is going to be the best option, by far.
This is so confusing. Thanks for your review btw. I’m limited to 87” height and trying to decide between force c10 and rep area 2.0. For the money the c10 seems a better deal. Is build quality similar?
I think you’re underestimating how many people would find this a near one stop shop
It took 3 guys 5 hours. I've built one of these by myself in 8 hours but I also build G-Forces for a living. The assembly part is straight forward, its the unpacking & moving to the build location. Hate that part especially when I'm by myself.
I am ready to pull the trigger on the G20 or the jacked up Pro all in one, which one would you actually purchase for your garage buuild ?
Any recommendations for pulley systems, besides DIY, for those of us with Rogue R3 racks with the 2 x 3 posts? Bummer that Rogue has moved away from supporting theses racks with accessories.
Thanks for the video. You mentioned the names of other companies in this same space. Which one of those companies offers the best product though?
I would check out the Bodycraft RFT Pro which is very similar to this for under $4,000. Also Tuff Stuff out of California is coming out with a new version of their CPR-265x with a similar configuration
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Put the gym pin on the cable stack to gain some capacity to it
I have an idea for a review video.
Seeing how you're on TH-cam, you could do a review on the equipment company's TH-cam channels. Comparing their different channels to each other. For instance, REP is really good about introducing their new products on TH-cam and you have Titan put out a video of alternating hammer curls. I like both companies but it's apparent which one is better about showing us their new equipment on TH-cam. Me personally I think with all the strives Titan has made becoming a better company they don't do as good of a job showing us their equipment. I don't know let me know what you think.
Thanks Coop! Are there any smith machines that you can add to the rogue monster lite or rep pr 4000 series. It would be a great add on attachment.?
Coop do you have an ironmaster im2000 review?
Can u review the force usa leg press and hack squat combo machine?
Coop, U can always add weight if u get the sleeve that adds on the selectorized stack though right?
Hard to believe there’s no UHMW plastics on the attachments, especially with Chrome.
I’m very happy with my ForceUSA MyRack w/ candle attachments, but for this price, they need to step up the features.
50” is mind boggling dumb as well. Not sure how any manufacturer can put out a new product that doesn’t take into account the feedback about Rogue’s dimensions.
I bought the G20 a few months ago before this was available and have some regrets but overall I like the versatility of the G20.
Quality is a little below par and the 2x2 uprights are annoying.
I've hacked my cables and converted to 2:1 ratio.
Took me 10 hours to assemble with my wife so those 'pros' who assembled for you are taking the piss.
Good review though
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I am just starting to look into power racks and I am just starting to understand them and every company have different attachments. In theory, it doesn't matter (excluding the quality question for the moment) brand of rack you get, correct? You can frankensteinize them by getting the attachments from the different brands you want as long as it has the right hole size, 3x3 up rights, and in some cases the same cross member's width?
Metric or English?
Is the G20 acctually getting change to a 2:1 ratio as you mention in the video?
does jacked up fitness just not exist? i have only seen 1 review on the jacked up power rack pro
We need some Bolt Fitness reviews!
I wish they made an option to go between 2:1 to 1:1 depending on the exercise you wanna do.
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Coop. You ever going to buy the ridiculous TYTAX T3X.
I second the motion for a TYTAX T3X review. There are so many attachment points and cables tho! Might have to get a degree just to figure out how to hook everything up lol. It does seem to be able to do everything tho, and smoothly.
Third the motion :). Would love to see this review, though the lack of true rack functionality and weight stacks make it a bit of a hard sell.
Any jacked up brand reviews?
wonder how the Jacked Up Power Rack PRO All-In-One compares
Who makes the Sweet looking dumbbells
Can you do a review of the metcon 8?
This a late comment but how much weight can those shelf’s hold
Im going to be mounting a power rack on the side of my bus. Although i know they are not made for outside, which one would you recommend for outdoors?
What about comparing the rogue cave or sorinex apex rack
Biomechanicly you want to pull at some kind of angle when doing latpull down
Let's go you got my interest
ratios dont have to do with travel. it has to do with the difficulty of the weight..OR thats what ive always been told.Whats the final word??
The ratio does affect the travel. If the handle has 1/2 the load of the stack, the handle must travel 2x the change in height of the stack.
This is because Work = Force x distance
The work done at the stack is the same as the work done at the handle.
Started assembly 9am, finishing up at 2pm. How is that 15 hours? I must be missing something.
3 guys took 5 hours to assemble it, so that's 15 hours work. I don't know if it would even be possible to assemble this alone but it's just to give an estimate of how long it may take.
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When r u reviewing the G20?
Up here in Toronto, Canada - there are a few other companies doing all in one systems - seems like of you are willing to compromise on the enclosed power rack you can get much better value
Hi Steve, I’m currently shopping for all in ones and from Toronto. What other good models like G20 we have accessible here ?
@@vasu033 inspire FT2, Inspire SF3, Atlas M810, Atlas AL 3058, Atlas AL 3059, Maxum Fitness S-150, Maxum Fitness S-90, Maxum Fitness F-190, and AmStaff Fitness sells some all in one units too.
@@steverapos3904 wow.. lots of them! will check
@@vasu033 just realized, REP fitness now serves Canada too - looks like they are taking Pre-orders for the new Ares system now
@@steverapos3904 thank you! now you are giving me too many options..haha..You seems to be very knowledgeable. What's your prefferred machine from all these that you can buy in Ontario?
Woohoo g20 review coming
Bought a leg press/hack squat combo, and the “my bench” with the preacher and leg curl/leg extension attachments when I first started the Home gym venture. bench sucks leg press is ok, knowing what I know now after 2 years of building my gym I would have gone elsewhere.
How is this different or better than a Prime HLP rack?
Can you review g6 or g10
50'' width is too much for a rack. I stopped paying attention after that.
Have you reviewed inspire fitness’ ft2 yet? I feel like the kind of person who’d wanna buy this would prefer that. Would love to see you review the ft2. I bought one after watching all your videos for years lol
They kinda treat enspire like the red headed step child of gym equipment for some odd reason, hell the whole internet does. I have their scs and absolutely love it. Especially connecting the pulleys to the leg attachment so you can do hammy curls and extensions. It is a beautiful piece of machinery
@@matthewmurphy5543 I’m surprised because he’s so pro safety bars from a friend passing. You literally can’t squat/bench without the safety set. Big win from me. Definitely pricey, but I literally don’t need to worry about buying any other piece of equipment - aside from a place to dip haha. That is certainly missing from the machine.
Points for having yourself the background tv.
I don't really know who this is marketed for. It combines multiple things (power rack, storage, cables etc.) but won't do any of them as well as the standalone alternatives which, if bought separately, will work out cheaper. Probably significantly cheaper too. The only person I see this being of value to is someone who is so short of space that they need an all in one. But then is the person short on space going to be splashing $6k on a gym equipment? Perhaps it's for the person living in a flat who chose location over space, I don't know. But there can't be many of those people out there who want a home gym, surely?
I've heard their trap bar is good, but didn't know anything else about force usa
You said the G20 was very expensive but they are the same price down to the penny
Hey Coop,
This or Rep Ares?
If money doesn't matter. Cheers boss.