I talk about briefly how I feel about Dragunov in the video. So, Dragunov has good poking and attack but he lacks of counter-hit move, tricky-setup and safe-launcher. This is why I think Dragunov can't be best character. what you think?
Just A Very Big Wall • 11 years ago but it’s his only pressure tool and because of that he has no traps or tricks and b1+2 is to slow you have to make him conditioned to do it
JDCR 잡다님 솔직히 말하면 잡다님도 드라는 철권7 이후에 나온 캐릭터들에 비해 지금은 그리 안좋은 캐릭인거 인정하시네요 ㅋㅋ 솔직히 JDCR님이 실력이 사기라서 그런거지 노비도 드라 많이 안하는 거 보면 이젠 좀 한계가 있는 캐릭같아요 울산님이랑 할 때도 처음엔 항상 잡다님이 압도하고 이기는데 뒤로 갈수록 이지 걸 게 없고 아무것도 할 게 없어서 결국 말려죽는 경우가 많던데 대회에 나가신다면 다른 캐릭도 많이 고려해보셔야할듯
Dragunov: 1% health Paul: I'm gonna go for the low Dragunov: crouch guard Paul: I'm not gonna go low Dragunov: still crouching Paul: I'm gonna go for the low Dragunov: low parry
I feel like Dragunov got left behind. They nerfed his pressure when he was strong, then they buffed every other character to the point where they overtook Dragunov and he still hasn't been brought up to the new standard.
I feel as the game has progressed Dragunovs tools and game plan have become less prominent. It seems like every season newer characters have better pressure and better frames. It’s doesn’t help that they keep nerfing the tracking on running two. I honestly feel like the character needs better frames or tracking on some of his other moves. Even though he got a few buffs in season three they basically just gave him some of his old properties and frames from season one. They still lacks all the better frames and tracking they had in seasons one. I am surprised they haven’t nerfed Paul as much as Dragunov. In my opinion Paul needed the nerfs in seasons two not Dragunov. JDCR was the only one winning with the character.
Ariel Ariel Paul has so many low risk and high reward moves that players can just spam. Even his more punishable moves often require quick timing to punish. His damage is a bit too much for a character that has very little risk.
Totally agreed. Drag has no counterhit game whatsoever, the only thing I can think of is his 1 2 1 CH confirm, and even that is so much effort for so little reward. Also, his tracking isn't the greatest. With WR2 getting nerfed and his lack of a mid Homing move. It's hard to comfortably get in on a stepping opponent. (Unless you do ff3 and run the risk of getting ducked and launched). I can't wait to see you in tournament once this lockdown ends, and thanks for the uploads. Your insights on Tekken are priceless.
also he doesnt have a lot of mixup moves that knocks down the opponent. and pls bring back d2 force crouch, there are so much characters that make you duck with moves
Honestly that's perfect for me,if dragunov is an honest character and is not too gimmickey or too many mix ups,he requires more fundamentals and outsmarting the opponent which sounds a very nice challenge for me.
Dragunov was the de facto character that represented the Tekken 7 less movement more aggression path that Namco took. Too bad the over season 2 and 3 the buffs to other characters and the new characters basically meant that even the defense characters can keep up with Drag or some of the others simply became better than him at his job. Oh and the new raid boss characters that can do everything 100x better than anyone, them too.
Really what's happened to Dragunov (as well as many other characters) is power creep in S3. He's less standout than he was before. There's a considerable gap between him and the current top5 characters in the roster. From JDCR's remarks, Drag is not as explosive as other characters.
Leroy and Fuckerman marks the end of the Greatest fighting game series ever made. Its sad really, but its true. Most of the old cast dont even compare in strenght to the new DLC chars, or the 2D chars for that matter too. T7 is in my opinion both one of the best(sales, number of players and good scene) and Worst in the series.
he honestly still feels like an S tier character to me, but theres two god tier characters in the game, Leroy and Fahk. if you compare drag to them of course hes hes lacking and "honest" but realistically hes prob still a top 10 character
I would really like to know what do you think of Sregei's evasive moves like QCB 2. Are they viable at high levels of play or just a gimmick that on good player will work only once in a blue moon?
The main move that got nerfed is down 2 everything else can be worked around, soon as a character isn’t brain dead easy people move on. For example Leroy is still strong because of all the tools they gave the character but what happened? He gets “nerfed” and you have to think more and people drop the character. Characters like ganryu gets 90-100 plus damage from a back sway or throw setups into an unblockable but nobody will know it because you have to think when using the character.
I agree with everything you said. Even when Drag was at his strongest in S1 he was a bit overrated IMO. JDCR says Dragunov lacks counter-hit move, tricky-setup and safe-launcher but he has always lacked in those areas since S1.
I still find him very fun to play, and you can get pretty tricky with his faint grabs, and other faint moves to throw off opponents. I’ve played him since s1 and he is notably weaker both due to nerfs to his damage and frames and the dumb power creep coming out of mr raidboss and fukandram. And other balance changes he’s been left behind. I’d honestly put him in the mid of high. He’s not the monster he used to be, but can still be affective and fun.
both are high and linear iircc. so there no real reason the opponent should get hit by them. unless they whiffed, got interrupted or did something stupid.
@@PrimordialKrishna me too. It's not like there was some gimmick coming if you didn't duck the 1 after the 3. Nerfing it didn't make sense, plus on a 2-4 bar f4,4,3 into 4,4 can be inconsistent as well as another one of his screw options, outside of that every other screw option that is consistent ends up being weak in damage, my bnb went from 75 to 66/67 smh
Skylar Gonzalez it really just didn’t make sense to remove that addition because now the only reason to use that slower sneak is for 3,1 ~ 1+2 for wall damage.
@@PrimordialKrishna exactly, like I miss using 3,1 into 1+2 as a combo ender smh now the 1+2 just whiffs because it can't come of fast enough so you have to deep dash 3 into sneak then hit 1+2
That would be great! But i doubt it, because if JDCR already says that Dragunov lacks some tools, with Heihachi it's even worse. Bandai namco needs to calm down with the power Creep. Characters need to have weaknesses, its what gives them character (no pun intended).
People now are realizing Dragunov weaknesses since Bandai Namco release new characters in the game. Well people already dropped the character when he was nerfed in Season 2 which he was still strong after the nerf. But i really dont know if he should get buffed again cuz we already know scary Dragunov is when his one of the best characters in the game. If they do buff Dragunov to the point his one of the best characters in the game again he would just get nerfed immediately once someone wins a tournament with him. Its hard to find the perfect balance for the character tbh Also JDCR i wouldnt get mad if you dropped Dragunov for Leroy cuz you're a competitive player anyway so it makes sense for you to change characters
isn't that kinda good? cause if you know your character is not that strong but you still keep winning. that means you have great skills to cover that characters great weakness
@TKJDCR sorry in advance bro its like questioning the masters of game but why arent u punishing paul moves after blocking bcoz most of paul moves got punishment after being blocked like paul's qcf 2 alwayss got punished by dragnov B 1,2
@@rpcombats2283 you're showing how new you are. All of Leo's moves can be stepped ducked or walked. She has a sweep not a hell sweep and it has garbage range. Only 50/50 she might have is crouching mixup. Shes not a 50/50 character. She has like 3 strings you can jab or duck in the middle of them.
How does dragunov not have a proper launcher when his df2 is a standard 15 frame launch that doesnt even require counter-hit. meanwhile other characters have 16 frame df2 that doesnt even launch unless counter-hit
I have been saying this for a while but ppl still imagine that we are still in S1 and that the complaints aren't valid. The truth is if someone has good defense and manages to get a lead it is hard to comeback with Drag. Other characters have much higher mixup potential, crush potential, etc. Drag is a very honest, movement-based poking character which is less valuable the current iteration of the game.
It’s crazy how he was considered top 2 in season one , barely nerfed and now he isn’t even top 10 in most tier lists , I understand tier lists are opoinions but wow
Zlatko Whether i have Leroy as my profile pic or not doesn’t mean i should just parry. I don’t spam parry. I don’t even rely on parry so my wins are legit thru me using fundamentals and not gimmicks!
Kenshin Osu! What are you talking about? He was always S teir but not anymore but he’s at least one of the top 10 strongest characters in the game. Lee is Mid tier at least. He lacks range and requires skill unlike drag. That’s why not many use him and you barely see him online. Same applies with Anna and Lei (most requested characters who are purposely not balanced well).
I talk about briefly how I feel about Dragunov in the video. So, Dragunov has good poking and attack but he lacks of counter-hit move, tricky-setup and safe-launcher.
This is why I think Dragunov can't be best character. what you think?
I think he would be better if they nerfed the wr2 a little bit just a little and buff other tools
@@losh4200 That move has been nerfed alot of times already
Just A Very Big Wall • 11 years ago but it’s his only pressure tool and because of that he has no traps or tricks and b1+2 is to slow you have to make him conditioned to do it
JDCR 잡다님 솔직히 말하면 잡다님도 드라는 철권7 이후에 나온 캐릭터들에 비해 지금은 그리 안좋은 캐릭인거 인정하시네요 ㅋㅋ
솔직히 JDCR님이 실력이 사기라서 그런거지 노비도 드라 많이 안하는 거 보면 이젠 좀 한계가 있는 캐릭같아요
울산님이랑 할 때도 처음엔 항상 잡다님이 압도하고 이기는데 뒤로 갈수록 이지 걸 게 없고 아무것도 할 게 없어서 결국 말려죽는 경우가 많던데
대회에 나가신다면 다른 캐릭도 많이 고려해보셔야할듯
연깍도 초하향 먹은 마당에 드라 고집하고 있는 건 잡다님밖에 없는 듯 ㅠ
지고 있을 때 역전하기도 어렵고 짠싸움 아무리 하더라도 결국 되도 않는 연깍 어썰트 이지가 유일한 돌파구인데... 대회용으론 좀 아닌 것 같지 않나요 이젠
Dragunov: 1% health
Paul: I'm gonna go for the low
Dragunov: crouch guard
Paul: I'm not gonna go low
Dragunov: still crouching
Paul: I'm gonna go for the low
Dragunov: low parry
Mind games are fun
Paul: surprised pickachu face
Paul : what magic is this?
Dragunov: 2, 1
Opp: “He’s gonna go for the low, I’m gonna crouch block”
Dragunov: *SURPRISE DOWN 1+3*
Jdcr HUGE respect man. I am really impressed with just how good your English is getting. You are significantly easier to understand.
Kyle Fields you know he has a major in english right
joelyolo10 JDCR out here getting big brained!
I feel like Dragunov got left behind. They nerfed his pressure when he was strong, then they buffed every other character to the point where they overtook Dragunov and he still hasn't been brought up to the new standard.
I think, after seeing Harada new interview, the win ratio of dragunov in online matches is still good, That's why he left him as he is after nerfs.
As a Dragunov main myself, we’ve been waiting for this vid and I freaking love it
I feel as the game has progressed Dragunovs tools and game plan have become less prominent. It seems like every season newer characters have better pressure and better frames. It’s doesn’t help that they keep nerfing the tracking on running two. I honestly feel like the character needs better frames or tracking on some of his other moves. Even though he got a few buffs in season three they basically just gave him some of his old properties and frames from season one. They still lacks all the better frames and tracking they had in seasons one. I am surprised they haven’t nerfed Paul as much as Dragunov. In my opinion Paul needed the nerfs in seasons two not Dragunov. JDCR was the only one winning with the character.
the Paul fanshits are gonna say when someone mentions that Paul needs a nerf:
"hE is iN tHe GamE sIncE tekKeN 1, Git Gud"
Ariel Ariel Paul has so many low risk and high reward moves that players can just spam. Even his more punishable moves often require quick timing to punish. His damage is a bit too much for a character that has very little risk.
@@RedSwan3 little risk? He's been in the game since Tekken 1 now, just git gud.
I would be happy if namco keeps Paul as he is now and just buff other characters.
Playing Dragunov made me understand how valuable a mid homing move is.
For real
Drag still my main but that's why I use Claudio more now
@@kiingn7794 Claudio's homings so op
And his df1 is so bad. Everytime I play someone crushes his df1 poke. HOW?! Its so hard to win with drag nowadays.
@@kiingn7794 Yeah almost everything goes under df1. Mid crushing chars fck him up big time.
They made dragunov weak because of you 😅❤️
Totally agreed. Drag has no counterhit game whatsoever, the only thing I can think of is his 1 2 1 CH confirm, and even that is so much effort for so little reward.
Also, his tracking isn't the greatest. With WR2 getting nerfed and his lack of a mid Homing move. It's hard to comfortably get in on a stepping opponent. (Unless you do ff3 and run the risk of getting ducked and launched).
I can't wait to see you in tournament once this lockdown ends, and thanks for the uploads. Your insights on Tekken are priceless.
also he doesnt have a lot of mixup moves that knocks down the opponent.
and pls bring back d2 force crouch, there are so much characters that make you duck with moves
i prefer b3 over ff3
Just a lot more quicker
@@Quran_eee yeah but it still poses the risk of the opponent ducking and launching
Honestly that's perfect for me,if dragunov is an honest character and is not too gimmickey or too many mix ups,he requires more fundamentals and outsmarting the opponent which sounds a very nice challenge for me.
Yea... Easy for you to say. You're no pro tekken player who relly on tournament price money. 🙂
@@py-3366 the pro player can always change character
@@JustN0tMe YEAH
First. Also dragonov is very spooky i like him only for that lol
Dragunov was the de facto character that represented the Tekken 7 less movement more aggression path that Namco took. Too bad the over season 2 and 3 the buffs to other characters and the new characters basically meant that even the defense characters can keep up with Drag or some of the others simply became better than him at his job.
Oh and the new raid boss characters that can do everything 100x better than anyone, them too.
Im assuming the raid boss are Leory or Fuhkumram
8:30 what a comeback
JD sidesteps are so good, a video on how to read your opponent would be good
Yeah a sidestep guide from JD would be amazing, he's the best in the world at it imo
@@INSOMNIACification he already has a guide on how to sidestep
@@Trollingtonsrus where
@@Vx1Hawk It's one of his earlier vids.
Really what's happened to Dragunov (as well as many other characters) is power creep in S3. He's less standout than he was before. There's a considerable gap between him and the current top5 characters in the roster.
From JDCR's remarks, Drag is not as explosive as other characters.
The instant wr2's are scary
Leroy and Fuckerman marks the end of the Greatest fighting game series ever made. Its sad really, but its true. Most of the old cast dont even compare in strenght to the new DLC chars, or the 2D chars for that matter too. T7 is in my opinion both one of the best(sales, number of players and good scene) and Worst in the series.
8:48 he’s from the future !
And 7:25
His customs are great, that’s why i decided to try him out lmao.
he honestly still feels like an S tier character to me, but theres two god tier characters in the game, Leroy and Fahk. if you compare drag to them of course hes hes lacking and "honest" but realistically hes prob still a top 10 character
Well , at least he's better than armor king. While there are character who are stronger, there are alot of characters that are weaker than him
True about how difficult it is for drag to recover once you get left behind in health early on.
dragunov also has the most damage inducer rage art its outstanding
Drag's design and playstyle is generally just cool. Also enjoying JDCR beat down Leroys
I had that same exact thought about Dragunov and that is why I put him to the side and picked up a different main. Fahkumram. I'm not sorry.
Do what you gotta do. But if I find you in game I will make you rethink your choices.
Drag is strong but there are so many characters way sronger than him.
It can be countered with sidestepping. (Please dont use it against me tho-)
the end reminded me the flashbacks from jdcr vs lil majin game
Please a video about predictions and reactions ! ! ! How to read your opponnent !
had to check this vid wasn’t running at 1.5x speed....JDCR just makes the game seem sped up, it’s crazy
What do you think of Leo? pros and cons, ways to fix/buff if necessary, would you play her?
7:25 is godlike. Wow!
That ending was beautiful goddamn
Really love your videos JDCR! You always share a lot of your knowledge and help us become better players, thank you! ❤
Hey JDCR!
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE!!!
DRAGUNOV FOREVER!
JDCR the god of all comebacks
I would really like to know what do you think of Sregei's evasive moves like QCB 2. Are they viable at high levels of play or just a gimmick that on good player will work only once in a blue moon?
those while running 2s are just crazy.
The main move that got nerfed is down 2 everything else can be worked around, soon as a character isn’t brain dead easy people move on. For example Leroy is still strong because of all the tools they gave the character but what happened? He gets “nerfed” and you have to think more and people drop the character. Characters like ganryu gets 90-100 plus damage from a back sway or throw setups into an unblockable but nobody will know it because you have to think when using the character.
I agree with everything you said.
Even when Drag was at his strongest in S1 he was a bit overrated IMO.
JDCR says Dragunov lacks counter-hit move, tricky-setup and safe-launcher but he has always lacked in those areas since S1.
I'm glad Draguno doesn't have that much of a backstory...
Makes him even more menacing ^^
In awe at your amazing sidesteps mate.
The way he brought it back in the last match
In short: Dragunov needs buffs counters and mix ups added to his move set
You know what they say, it's not about the character, it's about the pilot
잡다님 보고 드라 시작한지 3년 입니다. 항상 응원합니다~
I still find him very fun to play, and you can get pretty tricky with his faint grabs, and other faint moves to throw off opponents. I’ve played him since s1 and he is notably weaker both due to nerfs to his damage and frames and the dumb power creep coming out of mr raidboss and fukandram. And other balance changes he’s been left behind. I’d honestly put him in the mid of high. He’s not the monster he used to be, but can still be affective and fun.
Yeah, that's how I feel playing him. He's somehow "toothless", It just doesn't feel like he has something to offer
What does he mean by "honest" character?
He's talking about how dragunov is lacking behind while still beating the sh*t out of his enemies... And even doing great comebacks
I hope he gets a mini buff soon
8:50 mainman laugh
Dragunov is superpowerful and honest it’s just fahk and Leroy outshine him.
Is dragunov's qcf1 and f1+2 not a proper launcher?
both are high and linear iircc. so there no real reason the opponent should get hit by them. unless they whiffed, got interrupted or did something stupid.
I miss Dragunov's old 3,1~d/f cancel...out of all the thing to nerf smh
Right?? I thought it was a cool addition that made him interesting but noooo they nerf tf outta him 😒
@@PrimordialKrishna me too. It's not like there was some gimmick coming if you didn't duck the 1 after the 3. Nerfing it didn't make sense, plus on a 2-4 bar f4,4,3 into 4,4 can be inconsistent as well as another one of his screw options, outside of that every other screw option that is consistent ends up being weak in damage, my bnb went from 75 to 66/67 smh
Skylar Gonzalez it really just didn’t make sense to remove that addition because now the only reason to use that slower sneak is for 3,1 ~ 1+2 for wall damage.
@@PrimordialKrishna exactly, like I miss using 3,1 into 1+2 as a combo ender smh now the 1+2 just whiffs because it can't come of fast enough so you have to deep dash 3 into sneak then hit 1+2
카운터기도 없고 넘어트리는 하단도 없고 역전하기도 어렵고 딜캐도 기껏해야 포원에 리치도 짧고
헛친거 딜캐도 헤머콕이나 6AP로 해야하는데 최속 발동도 다른 캐릭에 비해서 엄청 느린편이고
이젠 그냥 그저그런 캐릭
드라는 저에게 첫녹단달게해준캐릭이라
넘좋아용 콤보가쉬워성
dragunov can't be top tier
*absolutely beats the breaks off of a Leeroy
how about Marduk sir?
What are the mixus after the rage drive? Srry for the stupid question but im curious
The what?
After drags? It's d+2, tackle and a mid like b43
@@lgyun1532 b43 is duckable, just do uf4 b1+2 or even df2 for a big mid.
Drag’s strong, but he’s not as strong as he used to be
let him recover a bit
I still main Dragunov in hopes that one day they will buff him so he could fit the current standards
Watch Knee's video where he use Paul to fight against Ulsan's dragunov, Ulsan's so aggresive and good at poking
Those round stealings jdcr 😍💯
Although dragnov is not strong but i like him because of his stylish moves and combos. My 2nd main.
But I like JDCR, he's cool : )
Dragunov? Not strong?
Goes to show how stupidly powerful the newer characters must feel at the highest level of Tekken
I’m learning him can u teach me some stuff??
Lol JDCR is still the king of clutch
so does this mean higher chance for JDCR Old Man Heihachi during tournaments? yes please ❤️
That would be great! But i doubt it, because if JDCR already says that Dragunov lacks some tools, with Heihachi it's even worse. Bandai namco needs to calm down with the power Creep. Characters need to have weaknesses, its what gives them character (no pun intended).
i want to see jdcr win world tour again
Is he actually playing with a Hitbox or is it just an ad?
7:48 paul’s day was ruined
Edit: I take it back this is better lmao 8:49
That finish! 🤯
I miss season 1 dragunov
as soon as i saw jdcr with the face of sergei dragunov i had to click
The button sounds 😅
People now are realizing Dragunov weaknesses since Bandai Namco release new characters in the game. Well people already dropped the character when he was nerfed in Season 2 which he was still strong after the nerf. But i really dont know if he should get buffed again cuz we already know scary Dragunov is when his one of the best characters in the game. If they do buff Dragunov to the point his one of the best characters in the game again he would just get nerfed immediately once someone wins a tournament with him. Its hard to find the perfect balance for the character tbh
Also JDCR i wouldnt get mad if you dropped Dragunov for Leroy cuz you're a competitive player anyway so it makes sense for you to change characters
isn't that kinda good? cause if you know your character is not that strong but you still keep winning. that means you have great skills to cover that characters great weakness
@TKJDCR sorry in advance bro its like questioning the masters of game but why arent u punishing paul moves after blocking bcoz most of paul moves got punishment after being blocked like paul's qcf 2 alwayss got punished by dragnov B 1,2
??? "주의: 매우 역겹습니다"
after update 3.1 dragunov was no more😇.
So he’s Lars basically. An honest character with good pokes but no good tools or decent setups 😭😭. Oh well
Dragunov is outdated but still my main and favorite
A simple fix for this would be to buff honest characters.
Like dragunov leo lee etc.
Lmao Leo is not an "honest" character. He still has tons of strings, high crushing launchers, stupid 50/50s and all that he has a goddamn hellsweep.
@@rpcombats2283 you're showing how new you are. All of Leo's moves can be stepped ducked or walked. She has a sweep not a hell sweep and it has garbage range. Only 50/50 she might have is crouching mixup. Shes not a 50/50 character. She has like 3 strings you can jab or duck in the middle of them.
Dragunov is a very good char... But when you compare him to King, Fahkumram, Leroy, and others... He is absolutly nothing.
I want to see a pro tekken player hand cam cuz I'm like wtf is going on down there
How does dragunov not have a proper launcher when his df2 is a standard 15 frame launch that doesnt even require counter-hit. meanwhile other characters have 16 frame df2 that doesnt even launch unless counter-hit
the range on that thing is horrendous
@@rttrtt1374 and launch punishable. Only good for ss or some whiff punish
기술배합 짜임새 장난없다ㅋㅋ 드라만큼 철권에서 정직한 캐릭터도 드문듯
I have been saying this for a while but ppl still imagine that we are still in S1 and that the complaints aren't valid.
The truth is if someone has good defense and manages to get a lead it is hard to comeback with Drag.
Other characters have much higher mixup potential, crush potential, etc.
Drag is a very honest, movement-based poking character which is less valuable the current iteration of the game.
I love how he got his skill and muscle memory but he still call it "lucky"
Pls upload your stream on TH-cam jdcr
Nice!
Pls keep playing dragunov character
마지막에 지리네 ㄷ
How would I beat a good Drag with Law?
Dragunov cons? LOLOLOLOLOL
It’s crazy how he was considered top 2 in season one , barely nerfed and now he isn’t even top 10 in most tier lists , I understand tier lists are opoinions but wow
Nice Dragonov is cool but man i hate when people spam his running move 😭
I mean, isn’t it just running 2 and down 2 🤔
Japan Yen nah just his running 2 lol and his shoulder move 😭
Fam you have Leroy as pic, just parry
Zlatko Whether i have Leroy as my profile pic or not doesn’t mean i should just parry. I don’t spam parry. I don’t even rely on parry so my wins are legit thru me using fundamentals and not gimmicks!
@@Zlatko815 just taunt, draganov will be like wtf and does running 2 but leroy will parry. BIG BRAIN.
He is still a very strong character, especially if we compare him to characters like Lee, Lei and Anna.
I think Lee is better than Drag atm. Lee has pretty much every tool you could want in a character meanwhile Drag is lacking a lot.
Kenshin Osu! What are you talking about? He was always S teir but not anymore but he’s at least one of the top 10 strongest characters in the game. Lee is Mid tier at least. He lacks range and requires skill unlike drag. That’s why not many use him and you barely see him online. Same applies with Anna and Lei (most requested characters who are purposely not balanced well).
leloy :)
Legends says that if I see the video and comment early, JDCR will notice me :O