I started with your leveling build and then started looking at china builds and realize this is commonly used there already, basically ice trigger electric and electric trigger ice, max their quality for bigger area effects. Drop chayula, use charge staff and combat frenzy. And also most impt is to just get the passive for 1 health and immune to chaos, switching from pure evasion to evade + ES, diff is hugeee... way tankier!
@@macs0544 i started with 2k ES and it's doable already, right now i'm about 2.6k. It's also easier to gear up ignoring all life rolls and chaos resist and just focus on maxing elemental resist
I may be wrong on this but I think you want conduction on Herald of Ice, not overcharge. Doesn't overcharge increase the strength of the shock itself ? (20 vs 37.5) but I don't think it affects shock chance.
Two questions: 1. This "double-herald-to-self-chain" technique does nothing for bosses. How do you do bosses? 2. Have you considered Gemling Legionnaire to use two of the same support gem?
Can you do a video just breaking down your skills and how they are getting to the numbers? Ing belt no doubt is a huge bit for the 240k ice strike, but even prior to that belt, you had like 190k, I have the same build, but lower level like 84 atm, and my staff is 100 less dps, im just wonderin what makes my in town 50k ice strike so lacking compared to yours
Is there a way on Mobalytics to see the skill tree investment over incremental stages like Maxroll does? Think your skill tree is fleshed out to 97 or 98? Guessing just shave jewels or crit damage nodes?
Oh the ring used to be a throwaway? It's interesting to see how things like that change over time. There are probably quite a few uniques that won't ever change in value like that though.
Okay, i tried something like this, but never got enough lightning damage on herald of ice. I saw even without lightning infusion (where u pulled that out) you still have 1000 lightning damage on it. Where does that come from? Without lightning infusion my Gerald of ice don’t have any lightning damage…
You have to go I am thunder and maybe the other gain extra damage as lightning instead of the cold on the skill tree if you can’t get flat lighting and your not shocking, you only need to hit a small break point before it triggers and it’s not much hope that helps
@@DonTheCrown Understood. I only have one good ring so I suppose using the Polcirkeln is still better, especially given that it's perfectly rolled. Thanks for the info.
Yep, I saw a video about this a few days ago and I said well I better pick me up one of these fast before the price goes up. Glad I did, leveling my monk now
@pinkbean4983 "Fixed Infusion Support Gems on Herald skills applying the gain damage as extra elemental damage to all attacks instead of just the damage from the Herald skill." few weeks ago
I’m going stat stacker invoker and this saved my damn clear. I’m like 50d in and 400int 350dex 300str and was starting to think it wasn’t really worth it since I can’t run the ring without huge dps loss. I’m def less tanky because I dropped ghost dance but damn the clear is actually way better than with ring
The economy is completely blown out of proportion. It’s completely ridiculous to think that a ring even of its purpose is going for divine orbs. It’s absurd to think that the full game hasn’t even that’s been released and the economy is all out of whack. Truly sad. 😔
you can get it for ~25ex-30ex if you filter by EX instead of the default. It's not really worth trying to get 30% cold damage, when the explosion is really what you want.
How to solve the issues with spirit? 5 buff x 30 spirit each = 150 spirit. All spirit quest give me 100 spirit. I don't see nothing with spirit bonus in your gear. How do you solve it? I'm going mad for this
I have 40k dmg on ice strike even with 400dps weapon, 80lvl is that rly bad ? what am I doing wrong, curently stacking exalts to buy some 1-2div weapon
@DonTheCrown thx man. I wanted to try tri Attribute stacking but since i cant afford the gloves im lookin for a fun Alternative so ill try your build thx mate :)
Nice but HOT is bugged "do more dmg than intended", and for what I see, people are using HOI in all builds, so I expect a big nerf or just eliminated like in POE 1 😁, so still have a few days before nerf hammer coming from vacation, we need a new strategy
@DonTheCrown - Bought a ring from you a week ago, or so! Didn't realize I'd be looking at a build from you a week later, haha. This looks great. I was planning on changing builds when they (supposedly) nerf rarity, as I've already invested into all my current build's gear for rarity... But I saw you mention on your build page you expect this to be nerfed, too.. Do you think they'll nerf one before the other? I wonder which will be more on their radar... Because I'd like to build into this if/when they nerf rarity.. However, they could just release another big patch, and nerf both, screwing my plans to switch to this, haha. Maybe I should just switch to this, now, and not have the rarity... 😓
Guessing what or how they'll nerf is somewhat of a losing game just have fun for now, there's other games coming soon so not worried about making a forever build
There are some hidden stuff like that tho. For example, shockburst rounds (skill for crossbow) can't shock, despite it not being specified anywhere ingame
Guessing "I am Thunder" Ascendancy and Herald of Ice having Lightning infusion and Innervate support gems? All make your ice strike apply lightning and shock chance, right?
oor you can just use the unique ring that causes chilled enemies to shatter as if frozen cause herald of ice might not freeze but it does chill. I stacked area affect and it seems to clear massive amounts during breaches
so i wonder why my comment gets deleted and now i get it, no links xD sadge would love your opinion on my version :D i also worked out the same way since you can inflict ailments with heralds as long it different from its origin, so getting cold thunder and shocking ice to loop them :D works almost as good :) i guess every person is giggling while clearing breaches with this xD (yep, me too)
I don’t think so because you have to build around it, if it was free then yes. Like the P ring making herald of ice trigger of its self kinda might get nerfed, but giving up 60 spirt and ascendancy, and 2-4 skill points to make the double herald work is still honest a lot of investment
Thanks again Don, great tech! I was already using HoT to freeze but had not enabled HoI to shock. This setup is extremely fun, not just in breaches! One tip I can share for people who still lack Herald damage. There's a jewel mod that doesn't cost that much: "Heralds deal (15-25%) increased damage". You can try and get it with another damage mod like Increased Attack Damage or Increased Critical Hit Chance for Attacks. If you stack a few of these, your Herald damage will increase significantly. It's also perfect if you don't want to change the annoint on your current amulet, like me (Stormcharged).
There is no problem at all, its simple game mechanics. Each of the different damage types enables its ailment. If you add lightning damage to ANY skill, it is able to shock - same goes for cold (freeze) and fire (ignite) damage.
I started with your leveling build and then started looking at china builds and realize this is commonly used there already, basically ice trigger electric and electric trigger ice, max their quality for bigger area effects. Drop chayula, use charge staff and combat frenzy. And also most impt is to just get the passive for 1 health and immune to chaos, switching from pure evasion to evade + ES, diff is hugeee... way tankier!
this is exactly my build except the 1 health passive, how high is your ES?
@@macs0544 i started with 2k ES and it's doable already, right now i'm about 2.6k. It's also easier to gear up ignoring all life rolls and chaos resist and just focus on maxing elemental resist
can you share me the link
can you post your version?
With meditate my ES is just under 4k. Not optimized any gear, lvl 75
Every video I watch makes me even more mad that loot filters still don’t work for console
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Bed mad every night!!!!
I may be wrong on this but I think you want conduction on Herald of Ice, not overcharge. Doesn't overcharge increase the strength of the shock itself ? (20 vs 37.5) but I don't think it affects shock chance.
Correct
How do you allocate doomsayer?
Two questions:
1. This "double-herald-to-self-chain" technique does nothing for bosses. How do you do bosses?
2. Have you considered Gemling Legionnaire to use two of the same support gem?
If you watch my other build guides you'll see that bosses get double belled to death
Can you do a video just breaking down your skills and how they are getting to the numbers? Ing belt no doubt is a huge bit for the 240k ice strike, but even prior to that belt, you had like 190k, I have the same build, but lower level like 84 atm, and my staff is 100 less dps, im just wonderin what makes my in town 50k ice strike so lacking compared to yours
Just what i was looking for, thanks Don !
Glad to help
respect, you're like the only creator that doesn't just keep showing off more expensive builds and instead do the opposite!
Looking at the guide. Why cold exposure on Wind Dancer? Tooltip says "Skill that hits". Does it work?
so we are not using gream feast anymore and change into herald of thunder? sound interesting to try, thanks sir
Is there a way on Mobalytics to see the skill tree investment over incremental stages like Maxroll does? Think your skill tree is fleshed out to 97 or 98? Guessing just shave jewels or crit damage nodes?
yup just shave stuff down that you dont need next, you kinda need to adjust depend on your own needs
How do u have 240k dmg on ice strike?
Im level 83 and I only have like 40k-50k dmg on mine.
yeah, i don't get it as well
What overlay ry using? To see dps?
where did u get that overlay? link pls
bro how did you get that loot filter?
Any reason why you keep supports on the quarterstaff skill? Just for easy swap?
Yup just storage
Oh the ring used to be a throwaway? It's interesting to see how things like that change over time. There are probably quite a few uniques that won't ever change in value like that though.
Could you update the Mobalytics link? the one listed here is for a different cold monk build that isn't an invoker.
looks right to me, make sure you click the variation button
@@DonTheCrown Ahh, missed the link. Got it now. Thanks!
What did you use to get the extra tier info on inspecting your staff?
it's a third party add on
PoE Overlay for PoE2: th-cam.com/video/_xd1H6li1rQ/w-d-xo.html
On a 4 link on herald of ice, should i prioritize overcharge or innvervate?
Okay, i tried something like this, but never got enough lightning damage on herald of ice. I saw even without lightning infusion (where u pulled that out) you still have 1000 lightning damage on it. Where does that come from? Without lightning infusion my Gerald of ice don’t have any lightning damage…
your weapon rings and gloves can roll a prefix with # to # lightning damage to attacks on them
@ yeah but he doesn’t have any if I saw it correctly :/ I’m confused 😂
You have to go I am thunder and maybe the other gain extra damage as lightning instead of the cold on the skill tree if you can’t get flat lighting and your not shocking, you only need to hit a small break point before it triggers and it’s not much hope that helps
please, dont stop making videos, we need your updates!
I'm using your normal Polcirkeln build and, from the looks of it, I should only transition to this once I get an Ingenuity. Is that correct?
You can swap beforehand if you want to use rarity rings or something. Ingenuity is not required
@@DonTheCrown Understood. I only have one good ring so I suppose using the Polcirkeln is still better, especially given that it's perfectly rolled. Thanks for the info.
Nice build, man - this sick build is cold AF 😂
How can you take Doomsayer when it's not connected with oother nodes? It says "unallocated." It's like 50 nodes away fro your build.
annoint on amulet
anointing your ammy: th-cam.com/video/q_AcP4oKyww/w-d-xo.html
What filter are you using?
Wish they'd let console use filters
oh also i forgott to mention: i like to watch your vids, you're chill dude to lsiten to with a very nice voice :)
would you recommend this change while still using the polcirkeln?
This change is to replace pol so you really don't need it anymore but pol is cleaner in it's clear but without it we can stack rarity
Yep, I saw a video about this a few days ago and I said well I better pick me up one of these fast before the price goes up. Glad I did, leveling my monk now
Pick what up?
@mrsundaymorning the special ring that lets you shatter chilled enemies as if they were frozen. "Porcirkeln" or something like that
@@Rain1 oh yes. i bought it too for 20ex after his video came out hahaha whats the price now?
I sold one for a div rather quickly earlier @@mrsundaymorning
Holly shit this is crazy. Everything dies in seconds.
Didn't they fix that for the heralds and bug fixed it that innervate doesn't work in boosting the monks attacks if it procs off heralds?
innervate works now
@pinkbean4983 are you sure? I read the patch notes bug fixed that specifically to only give the bonus damage to the heralds
@pinkbean4983 "Fixed Infusion Support Gems on Herald skills applying the gain damage as extra elemental damage to all attacks instead of just the damage from the Herald skill." few weeks ago
what was patched was that herald of ice + cold infusion was giving you 25% damage to everything and same for herald of thunder
Your videos are great! 😁👍
love the videos Don
can we get the lootfilter somewhereß
I’m going stat stacker invoker and this saved my damn clear. I’m like 50d in and 400int 350dex 300str and was starting to think it wasn’t really worth it since I can’t run the ring without huge dps loss. I’m def less tanky because I dropped ghost dance but damn the clear is actually way better than with ring
can you make ci version of it if it's possible
Dude why is your skill dps so much freaking higher than me, please help
The economy is completely blown out of proportion. It’s completely ridiculous to think that a ring even of its purpose is going for divine orbs. It’s absurd to think that the full game hasn’t even that’s been released and the economy is all out of whack.
Truly sad. 😔
Yeah I wish they would wipe standard after they come from break because if it wasn’t intended then that bug ruined standard in a week.
you can get it for ~25ex-30ex if you filter by EX instead of the default. It's not really worth trying to get 30% cold damage, when the explosion is really what you want.
Decouple rarity from affecting currency drops
Then, yes
Nuke standard. Three longer they wait, the worse the game will be
Also buff currency drops 300% to compensate
Can you use this tech WITH the polcyrclin ring lol
How to solve the issues with spirit? 5 buff x 30 spirit each = 150 spirit. All spirit quest give me 100 spirit. I don't see nothing with spirit bonus in your gear. How do you solve it? I'm going mad for this
@@hellion_spitfire invoker monk. There is a passive, that gives you spirit per evasion/energy shield.
I have 40k dmg on ice strike even with 400dps weapon, 80lvl is that rly bad ? what am I doing wrong, curently stacking exalts to buy some 1-2div weapon
40k damage is actually really good at level 80,
Sam here, I have no idea how do they stack dps so high
Possible with chayula monk?
Fairly sure you could double herald on any class
@DonTheCrown thx man. I wanted to try tri Attribute stacking but since i cant afford the gloves im lookin for a fun Alternative so ill try your build thx mate :)
I'm running Polcirkeln till it's nerfed, just too much fun popping stuff off screen.
I didnt see herold of shock on the written guide
same, how we can see your exact game setup?
click the Twin Herald variation button
T15 Maps I don't impress anyone anymore, I would like to see how this build continues to work in t20/30
Nice but HOT is bugged "do more dmg than intended", and for what I see, people are using HOI in all builds, so I expect a big nerf or just eliminated like in POE 1 😁, so still have a few days before nerf hammer coming from vacation, we need a new strategy
Don if you have that 2d staff I will buy it !
Hopefully not huge changes, i just switched from Rax’s early end game build to your cold strike monk build like an hour ago 😆
@DonTheCrown - Bought a ring from you a week ago, or so! Didn't realize I'd be looking at a build from you a week later, haha. This looks great.
I was planning on changing builds when they (supposedly) nerf rarity, as I've already invested into all my current build's gear for rarity...
But I saw you mention on your build page you expect this to be nerfed, too.. Do you think they'll nerf one before the other? I wonder which will be more on their radar... Because I'd like to build into this if/when they nerf rarity.. However, they could just release another big patch, and nerf both, screwing my plans to switch to this, haha. Maybe I should just switch to this, now, and not have the rarity... 😓
Guessing what or how they'll nerf is somewhat of a losing game just have fun for now, there's other games coming soon so not worried about making a forever build
Does this have MF?
in video, no. after video i shopped for MF and I have 246% now
1 divine staff. 15 divines gems xd
bought the ring for 20 something ex, its nuts
I don't see anything in poe2 saying HoT can't shock or that HoI can't freeze. I think that's just a poe 1 thing.
it says it ingame under ignite dps.
There are some hidden stuff like that tho.
For example, shockburst rounds (skill for crossbow) can't shock, despite it not being specified anywhere ingame
the guide is not even using herald of thunder......
click the Twin Herald variation button
Bro's got 231 Spirit, I barely managed to get 150 😭 So yeah, you need good gear as Spirit skills are doing most of the heavy lifting.
How is his ice strike 240k lololol
Anyone tried avatar of fire on the monk yet?
dont think that would really work
Hello good evening, how do you make Harold Of Thunder fall without using a skill to electrocute him? I didn't understand that part of the video.
Guessing "I am Thunder" Ascendancy and Herald of Ice having Lightning infusion and Innervate support gems? All make your ice strike apply lightning and shock chance, right?
herald of ice -> shocks
herald of thunder -> freezes
You use herald of ice, with lightning infusion to proc the shock, and when it kills something it has shocked, herald of thunder will hit.
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oor you can just use the unique ring that causes chilled enemies to shatter as if frozen cause herald of ice might not freeze but it does chill. I stacked area affect and it seems to clear massive amounts during breaches
Damn, I just bought the ring for 1 divine. Ahahahaha
mine is for 10 exalts hahahaa
so i wonder why my comment gets deleted and now i get it, no links xD sadge would love your opinion on my version :D i also worked out the same way since you can inflict ailments with heralds as long it different from its origin, so getting cold thunder and shocking ice to loop them :D works almost as good :)
i guess every person is giggling while clearing breaches with this xD (yep, me too)
If you put spaces between both dots of the URL it'll let you put it
I'll be honest, i dont believe one herald triggering another is intended.
This is very likely to get nerfed imo
why not?
I don’t think so because you have to build around it, if it was free then yes. Like the P ring making herald of ice trigger of its self kinda might get nerfed, but giving up 60 spirt and ascendancy, and 2-4 skill points to make the double herald work is still honest a lot of investment
No one cares
Thanks again Don, great tech! I was already using HoT to freeze but had not enabled HoI to shock. This setup is extremely fun, not just in breaches!
One tip I can share for people who still lack Herald damage. There's a jewel mod that doesn't cost that much: "Heralds deal (15-25%) increased damage". You can try and get it with another damage mod like Increased Attack Damage or Increased Critical Hit Chance for Attacks. If you stack a few of these, your Herald damage will increase significantly.
It's also perfect if you don't want to change the annoint on your current amulet, like me (Stormcharged).
"We use Herald of Ice to shock and Herald of Thunder to freeze...". Do you notice the problem?
Ice to shock. Thunder to freeze.
smh...
I mean the monk tree does have passives that do this... sooo.
You also have gems that do this.
There is no problem at all, its simple game mechanics. Each of the different damage types enables its ailment. If you add lightning damage to ANY skill, it is able to shock - same goes for cold (freeze) and fire (ignite) damage.
this is classic path of exile stuff, using supports to make weird stuff happen
DontheCrown thank u for the build but please don't delete previous build, thanks !