Every children and teens should learn self defense martial arts , i appreciate the arts i learned during my teen , kata is a good exercise during your old years
@Tapiola2007 Okinawans were likely rice farmers! I doubt they had memberships to Gold's Gym. So kata was modified in some instances from a fighting form to one the induces isometric as aerobic exercise. I did Kanku Dai about 3 times in a row and I was drenched from head to toe and had to change up my normal training routine the following day because it kicked my ass! Secondly, it provides u with an organized "LIST OF TECHNIQUES" that also need to be trained independent of kata.
The best explanation I have heard for the purpose of kata. So many times other martial artists especially MMA, pour scorn on Karate (all forms) and don't seem to understand that it comes from a long time ago when people had to look after themselves and their loved ones with their empty hands.
Anyone else notice Bassai/Passai uses a Panther style salute in the beginning and a lot of stomping techniques in the middle? Passsai means Panther/Lion in Chinese from Pat(Panther) and Sai(lion).
@osensei2987 Having said all of that, Karate would not be the joke that it is considered to be ( in the "MINDS OF SOME" ), if the techniques were taken from the kata, protection was put on and full contact sparring took place in which the idea would be to try and execute the techniques in the kata in a realistic fight simulation. I prefer that over the glorified amateur kickboxing game of tag that is on exhibit in modern Karate kumite (sparring) that uses very little Karate technique at all.
did you see the european lad i think that is sensei ronnie watt from aberdeen,scotland now 8th dan,he and sensei enoeda were vwery close friends,i had the great houner of being graded all my dan gradings from sensei enoeda,and a few jars a very great man indeed
@sroedner sigh. Bunkai is a guess, the eyes of the beholder. These kata were not invented by Kanazawa, Enoeda, Nakayama, even Funakoshi. They are much older. Guessing at their meaning is like trying to answer any of the great existential questions. A good exercise to develop your art, but ultimately, don't think that you will answer the question. It doesn't matter! And personally, I don't know that I would say that Italians on TH-cam know more than some of our great master...
@nordique59 ...and the Italians. This is a very old video though (earely 60's) and it was meant to be a popular explanation of the significance of the kata, not a profound, specialistic study. A bit like explaining Shakespeare in the Lower School.
@smcgregor72 Indeed "the Tiger" was an exceptional karateka. I had the fortune to train with him on only a few short occassions. He was formidable on the floor and off the floor a gentleman. Sadly we are witnessing the demise of a great band of karateka and I fear that the legacy left does not follow the "budo" path where kata, bunkai, kihon and kumite were all connected in a holistic whole - too much sport karate these days where a few techniques count and flowery kata win out!
@Hikiwake10 No, Not in free sparring! Once the gloves go on the technique disappears. Only kicks and punches from that point on! The only concern is who scores first! All of the techniques from the kata are quickly forgotten and success is measured in the number of medals and trophies one has accumulated. Meanwhile, ppl look at the katas and say they are not practical, because we never bother to prove the techniques in kumite! We just bounce around looking to score ippons!
Ok Mr. Samir, What is the Karate style more practised on the planet? What is the only Karate do invented by Funakoshi? Other stiles are not Karate are To-de. Do yopu understand now? If you prefer I can draw for you this time.
@nordique59 Nakayama was from a line of kenjutsu instructors. So in his twisted "JAPANESE" mind, he probably thought himself, "superior to the country bumpkin, Okinawan hicks". He approached empty hand and kumite as if they were fencing! IMHO, he both tragically and comically fucked up Shotokan! Even today u hear Japanese and non-Japanese make claims that the JKA "IMPROVED KARATE"! How arrogant! These ridiculous bunkai are the basis for the claim of Japanese ownership of the style!
Kata is kata and fighting is fighting. Worrying about bunkai being unrealistic, at this point, makes about as much sense as complaining comic books are unrealistic.
@Hikiwake10 Let me say that the argument about practical vs impractical is a BS argument that goes on all of the time. The reason it seems impractical to some is because they have not received proper instruction or the instruction they have received is in error. First and foremost u need to understand what kata is and what kata is not. Unless someone has explained it to u "truthfully" then u are prone to draw wrong conclusions.
Every children and teens should learn self defense martial arts , i appreciate the arts i learned during my teen , kata is a good exercise during your old years
@Tapiola2007 Okinawans were likely rice farmers! I doubt they had memberships to Gold's Gym. So kata was modified in some instances from a fighting form to one the induces isometric as aerobic exercise. I did Kanku Dai about 3 times in a row and I was drenched from head to toe and had to change up my normal training routine the following day because it kicked my ass! Secondly, it provides u with an organized "LIST OF TECHNIQUES" that also need to be trained independent of kata.
The best explanation I have heard for the purpose of kata. So many times other martial artists especially MMA, pour scorn on Karate (all forms) and don't seem to understand that it comes from a long time ago when people had to look after themselves and their loved ones with their empty hands.
Anyone else notice Bassai/Passai uses a Panther style salute in the beginning and a lot of stomping techniques in the middle?
Passsai means Panther/Lion in Chinese from Pat(Panther) and Sai(lion).
Thank you,Soke Kanazawa. 🙇
おっす.
unfortunatly JKA has changed a lot this Kata. I prefer this OLD way to do it!!!
Thank you, Souke Kanazawa. 🙇
Old Video I find good.
おっす.
@osensei2987 Having said all of that, Karate would not be the joke that it is considered to be ( in the "MINDS OF SOME" ), if the techniques were taken from the kata, protection was put on and full contact sparring took place in which the idea would be to try and execute the techniques in the kata in a realistic fight simulation. I prefer that over the glorified amateur kickboxing game of tag that is on exhibit in modern Karate kumite (sparring) that uses very little Karate technique at all.
did you see the european lad i think that is sensei ronnie watt from aberdeen,scotland now 8th dan,he and sensei enoeda were vwery close friends,i had the great houner of being graded all my dan gradings from sensei enoeda,and a few jars a very great man indeed
@sroedner sigh. Bunkai is a guess, the eyes of the beholder. These kata were not invented by Kanazawa, Enoeda, Nakayama, even Funakoshi. They are much older. Guessing at their meaning is like trying to answer any of the great existential questions. A good exercise to develop your art, but ultimately, don't think that you will answer the question. It doesn't matter! And personally, I don't know that I would say that Italians on TH-cam know more than some of our great master...
@nordique59
...and the Italians. This is a very old video though (earely 60's) and it was meant to be a popular explanation of the significance of the kata, not a profound, specialistic study. A bit like explaining Shakespeare in the Lower School.
@smcgregor72 Indeed "the Tiger" was an exceptional karateka. I had the fortune to train with him on only a few short occassions. He was formidable on the floor and off the floor a gentleman. Sadly we are witnessing the demise of a great band of karateka and I fear that the legacy left does not follow the "budo" path where kata, bunkai, kihon and kumite were all connected in a holistic whole - too much sport karate these days where a few techniques count and flowery kata win out!
@Hikiwake10 No, Not in free sparring! Once the gloves go on the technique disappears. Only kicks and punches from that point on! The only concern is who scores first! All of the techniques from the kata are quickly forgotten and success is measured in the number of medals and trophies one has accumulated. Meanwhile, ppl look at the katas and say they are not practical, because we never bother to prove the techniques in kumite! We just bounce around looking to score ippons!
7:38 "You go over here now!" jajaja
Ok Mr. Samir,
What is the Karate style more practised on the planet? What is the only Karate do invented by Funakoshi? Other stiles are not Karate are To-de. Do yopu understand now? If you prefer I can draw for you this time.
3:13 Best demonstration of the right leg
@nordique59 Nakayama was from a line of kenjutsu instructors. So in his twisted "JAPANESE" mind, he probably thought himself, "superior to the country bumpkin, Okinawan hicks". He approached empty hand and kumite as if they were fencing! IMHO, he both tragically and comically fucked up Shotokan! Even today u hear Japanese and non-Japanese make claims that the JKA "IMPROVED KARATE"! How arrogant! These ridiculous bunkai are the basis for the claim of Japanese ownership of the style!
OSS !
If you say, Have fun LARPing.
Kata is kata and fighting is fighting. Worrying about bunkai being unrealistic, at this point, makes about as much sense as complaining comic books are unrealistic.
@Hikiwake10 Let me say that the argument about practical vs impractical is a BS argument that goes on all of the time. The reason it seems impractical to some is because they have not received proper instruction or the instruction they have received is in error. First and foremost u need to understand what kata is and what kata is not. Unless someone has explained it to u "truthfully" then u are prone to draw wrong conclusions.
I don't know what part of your message is most absurd.
Nakayama Reinvented Karate do. The rest is bull shitt!!