There's one thing that the Quest 1 still beats the others: Colors and Darkness.. because it uses an OLED display, it can get very bright or very dark! Seriously, i thought i went blind when i looked into the sun when i was racing in AMS2!
I have two quest 1s (bought these to play space pirate arena with friends) but I disagree. Oled panels like quest 1, psvr 2 and older headset use Pentile pixel stripes. So no full 3 subpixels per pixels. This isnt as much of any issue on tvs and phones (because those are very sharp anyway) but it certainly is with VR. Adding with other drawbacks like black smear, mura, motion clarity and apparently difficulties to use them with pancake lenses at reasonable prices, a full RGB stripe LCD is better suited for Vr at this time in technology imo. Not having perfect blacks is for sure a small drawback but its much smaller than the drawbacks listed before with oled.
@@synonymdonuti have a quest 1 and thinking of upgrading to a quest 3 and your video is perfect. My issue with the quest 1 is that when I'm playing racing games using pcvr, it's so blurry and pixelated that I can't see the road ahead so it isn't really playable. Is this an issue with the VR or my PC?
Hi there, the controler knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to guide the controller from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the controller is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the controller must also know where it was. Hope this helps
the quest 2 got an antutu score of 411k, the quest 3 got 1.01M gou score on q2 is 130k on q3 its 530k, now its technically not extremely accurate because quest 2 can only use the lite gpu test, but considering it still got such a low score. its safe to say the xr2 gen2 is more of an upgrade then people think
@@synonymdonut iv never experienced stutters, i even up the resolution using quest games optimizer (i didn't up the cpu and gpu level for the benchmark) different headsets seemed to have different quality's with passthrough, maybe its the same thing with performance? although that would make alot less sense
I bought a Meta-Oculus Rift S one year before they dropped their support of this product. The Rift S worked well until I updated my computer. Now two years later and after a year of Meta stupid suggestions for getting my Rift S working again, it's still not working. I have a $400 paper weight that Meta refuses to fix even though they say my new computer should not be a problem. I cannot recommend buying any Meta products due to their lack of customer service and having a chance of the same dropping of older products support. Meta basically has no customer service and only lip service!
My friend is like top 10 in beat saber (no I don’t know how the ranking works) and has been invited to competitions. He uses the quest 1 still because he prefers the controllers
Great video, Can I ask what is the maximum controller tracking limit when you move your arms around and away from the front of the headset, quest 2 and quest 3 specifically. From other videos I've seen people complain the tracking is worse on the quest 3 than quest 2.
From experience, the quest 3 is less prone to losing track of the controllers when you put them behind your back, then the quest 2. I think this is because the quest 3 will track your hands and even arms to estimate the location
bro the quest 1 doesn’t show gorilla tag like that? It’s almost like the quest 3. Idk why so many people hate on the quest 1. edit: my quest 1 was in a good quality imo, but now it rusted lol so don’t mind me, also i got a quest 2 now so yay
I have the quest 3, and yes the processor power of the headset is amazing, i just miss how good the tracking on the quest 2 is, but i dont have my quest 2 anymore and ive been thinking of getting a quest 1 just to see how good that oled display looks, what are your thoughts what kind of headset would you recommend i go for (with oled display cuz i really wanna see that in vr)
@@PastaLuigi the psvr 2 has oled, and yeah the quest 1 does too. But the psvr won’t connect to a pc, and the quest 1 will. There is also the rift cv1, it is oled
Your mom shouldn't get the 1 since it's pretty much dead now and is losing support for many games and features. I say the Quest 2 is a good price at 200 dollars new or even less if you get a used one for like 150 and is probably going to work until 2026, versus the 1 which is definitely dying by 2024.
@@miguelplays2921 Don’t Worry She Will Only Be Playing Gorilla Tag Games With Me Once It Doesn’t Work She Can Get The 2 Don’t Worry We Can Easily Get Both
@@synonymdonut AMVR upgraded grip controller covers, sorry man they aren’t actually the controller themselfs just a safety feature so you don’t launch them across room lol. I’ve got young kids, never know what can happen going a few round boxing 🥊 😂
am i the only one who likes the screen door effect on the og quest? i had one, but then the battery exploded in the right controller. just went to best buy in 2021 to get a quest 2 as part of my geeksquad plan, since they didnt have any quest 1s to replace mine.
you definitely can, especially when the Quest 1 was considered a good value when it launched at the same $500 price point. compared to the Quest 2, the Quest 3 has a 1.3x increase in screen resolution, 1.5x the CPU power, and 2.5x the graphical power (these are approximations); better passthrough with higher quality color cameras, better inside out tracking for headset and controller positioning, as well as a more compact form factor that will feel more comfortable, etc. It's fine if you don't feel its enough to justify purchasing over the quest 2 fo you personally, but its most definitely justifiable.
There's one thing that the Quest 1 still beats the others: Colors and Darkness.. because it uses an OLED display, it can get very bright or very dark! Seriously, i thought i went blind when i looked into the sun when i was racing in AMS2!
@@KayoMichiels yes I miss the oled.
I have two quest 1s (bought these to play space pirate arena with friends) but I disagree.
Oled panels like quest 1, psvr 2 and older headset use Pentile pixel stripes. So no full 3 subpixels per pixels.
This isnt as much of any issue on tvs and phones (because those are very sharp anyway) but it certainly is with VR. Adding with other drawbacks like black smear, mura, motion clarity and apparently difficulties to use them with pancake lenses at reasonable prices, a full RGB stripe LCD is better suited for Vr at this time in technology imo.
Not having perfect blacks is for sure a small drawback but its much smaller than the drawbacks listed before with oled.
and it hides all the scratches because if ur a new gtag player ur gonna move in r boundry
@@coolertuepwhy?
@@aburakan1509 he explained it
Quest 3 is awesome because now because of it quest 2 is cheaper and because quest 2 is cheaper I can finally afford quest 1
(I will be using it for pc vr mainly)
Yep that’s another benefit
Solid comparison, I'm glad someone thinks of the ogs (like me) still rocking a Quest 1 who want to compare to the newest Meta hardware
super underrated, very straight to the point and concise with great examples
very nice video very well put together!
Just bought a Quest 1 specifically for PCVR. I already have a different headset but just wanted a cheap wireless option for if I felt like using it.
i love how u used to quest 1 as a comparison, ive always loved the way it looks lol
@@RedGMD yeah because most videos only compare the quest 2 and 3
@@synonymdonuti have a quest 1 and thinking of upgrading to a quest 3 and your video is perfect. My issue with the quest 1 is that when I'm playing racing games using pcvr, it's so blurry and pixelated that I can't see the road ahead so it isn't really playable. Is this an issue with the VR or my PC?
@@zepos probably just the quest 1 resolution, but what are your pc specs?
@@synonymdonut 1660 ti and ryzen 5 3600, if quest 3 really fixes this issue then I'm sold
Hi there, the controler knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to guide the controller from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the controller is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the controller must also know where it was.
Hope this helps
@@connorblair6438 damn ok
Alright pal
the quest 2 got an antutu score of 411k, the quest 3 got 1.01M gou score on q2 is 130k on q3 its 530k, now its technically not extremely accurate because quest 2 can only use the lite gpu test, but considering it still got such a low score. its safe to say the xr2 gen2 is more of an upgrade then people think
@@Slvystr that’s interesting. Because I still notice stutters and lag spikes even with the upgrade. Maybe just optimisation issues
@@synonymdonut iv never experienced stutters, i even up the resolution using quest games optimizer (i didn't up the cpu and gpu level for the benchmark) different headsets seemed to have different quality's with passthrough, maybe its the same thing with performance? although that would make alot less sense
@@Slvystr idk, I play gorilla tag a lot with standalone, and notice frame drops
@@synonymdonut i have my resolution set to ~4000 x ~4000, yours should be 1680 by 1760. its weird that it would be dropping, When do these occur?
@@Slvystr maybe I should try upscaling the resolution and testing performance. How do you get that app?
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I bought a Meta-Oculus Rift S one year before they dropped their support of this product. The Rift S worked well until I updated my computer. Now two years later and after a year of Meta stupid suggestions for getting my Rift S working again, it's still not working. I have a $400 paper weight that Meta refuses to fix even though they say my new computer should not be a problem. I cannot recommend buying any Meta products due to their lack of customer service and having a chance of the same dropping of older products support. Meta basically has no customer service and only lip service!
Listen man if you want to get into standalone VR you basically HAVE to buy Meta's products. They're really the only good viable option as of now.
My friend is like top 10 in beat saber (no I don’t know how the ranking works) and has been invited to competitions. He uses the quest 1 still because he prefers the controllers
Me who love quest pro controllers.
@@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw that’s interesting
I’m gonna be using this information buddy boi
ok, idc
@@synonymdonut you should bucko
Great video, Can I ask what is the maximum controller tracking limit when you move your arms around and away from the front of the headset, quest 2 and quest 3 specifically.
From other videos I've seen people complain the tracking is worse on the quest 3 than quest 2.
From experience, the quest 3 is less prone to losing track of the controllers when you put them behind your back, then the quest 2. I think this is because the quest 3 will track your hands and even arms to estimate the location
2:55 That’s actually happened to me on my quest 3 before.
have a 3s and im getting a quest 1 to tinker with the system files and try to force games to work
I remember visiting VRChat on my quest 1 and there’d be people with Insane avatars that would completely crash your game all the time
Planning on getting a 3s when I land a job
How many times did you say the word good at the start??
bro the quest 1 doesn’t show gorilla tag like that? It’s almost like the quest 3. Idk why so many people hate on the quest 1.
edit: my quest 1 was in a good quality imo, but now it rusted lol so don’t mind me, also i got a quest 2 now so yay
it does show it like that ngl don't know what you're seeing
what are you yapping about?
My quest 1 still turns on in a minute and i’ve never had any of those gorilla tag glitches😭
@@ItssByteYaps dang, guess I’m unlucky
@@synonymdonut Well i still gotta use a quest 1😭🙏
I have the quest 3, and yes the processor power of the headset is amazing, i just miss how good the tracking on the quest 2 is, but i dont have my quest 2 anymore and ive been thinking of getting a quest 1 just to see how good that oled display looks, what are your thoughts what kind of headset would you recommend i go for (with oled display cuz i really wanna see that in vr)
@@PastaLuigi the psvr 2 has oled, and yeah the quest 1 does too. But the psvr won’t connect to a pc, and the quest 1 will. There is also the rift cv1, it is oled
I Have The 3 My Mom Is Getting The 1 She Will Upgrade To The 2 If The 1 Gets Too Too Old And Very Laggy
Your mom shouldn't get the 1 since it's pretty much dead now and is losing support for many games and features. I say the Quest 2 is a good price at 200 dollars new or even less if you get a used one for like 150 and is probably going to work until 2026, versus the 1 which is definitely dying by 2024.
@@miguelplays2921 Don’t Worry She Will Only Be Playing Gorilla Tag Games With Me Once It Doesn’t Work She Can Get The 2 Don’t Worry We Can Easily Get Both
He just said gorilla tag has glitches with quest 1@Z1rryYT
Just picked up a quest 3 stream stick and upgraded controllers.
What are the upgraded controllers?
@@synonymdonut AMVR upgraded grip controller covers, sorry man they aren’t actually the controller themselfs just a safety feature so you don’t launch them across room lol. I’ve got young kids, never know what can happen going a few round boxing 🥊 😂
@@thatsmyrc fair enough
Im dying to get a quest 3 but my mom really cant afford it cause were in a bad spot rni only have a quest 2 but im still happy
@@VLCVR89 quest 2 is still fine. It’s not gonna pull a quest 1 (drop support for everything) anytime soon
just wait till a good quest 3 sale like for black Friday later this year or a Christmas sale too.
refurbished 3 for $380 or 3s for $299
@@UnpopularFeed were trying to get a 3s by selling me old 2
am i the only one who likes the screen door effect on the og quest? i had one, but then the battery exploded in the right controller. just went to best buy in 2021 to get a quest 2 as part of my geeksquad plan, since they didnt have any quest 1s to replace mine.
I mean I don't "like" the SDE on the quest 1, but I love the OLED. I just stop thinking about the bad resolution. The 72hz isn't so good though.
pls make a vid where you use the quest 1 for a week and then give your idea of how it holds up compared to the other quests
@@jacobfuller6266 ok, that’s a pretty good video idea. I’ll think about it
@@synonymdonut you don't have to just a suggestion let me know if you decide to use it have a great night/day
@@synonymdonut please do it bro
The fact quest 1 has oled display but can run very low resolution
Liked.
@@Miagirlcurlyvr ty
@@synonymdonut your welcome! I also subbed you are so underrated!
Yo nice quest 2 I wonder whose quest 2 that is 🤔
removing the tracking rings was a mistake.
@@BullymongFur sort of but it’s ultimately the future
quest pro controllers on top tho fr
I'am sure quest 4will be better than quest 3 and so on but Quest2 Will discontinue from 2025 ie no update same story with quest 3 after 3years ....
The quest 4 is gonna be piece of paper thats 800
Wow this TROLL has no idea what he's talking about.
how dude he listed everything out just fine. 💀
but you can't justify 500 US dollars for Quest 3
@@Concrete-wy4tx idk it’s pretty good
they dropped down to 430$ today but i still agree
you definitely can, especially when the Quest 1 was considered a good value when it launched at the same $500 price point. compared to the Quest 2, the Quest 3 has a 1.3x increase in screen resolution, 1.5x the CPU power, and 2.5x the graphical power (these are approximations); better passthrough with higher quality color cameras, better inside out tracking for headset and controller positioning, as well as a more compact form factor that will feel more comfortable, etc. It's fine if you don't feel its enough to justify purchasing over the quest 2 fo you personally, but its most definitely justifiable.
Easily worth it honestly...
@@fallin5427 meta fanboy