16:26 "Shoot the Pharah, why are you still shooting the Moira" brother I don't think he was shooting EITHER of them, he was shooting the afterimages of a bygone era. Homie was shooting the suggestion of a player at that point. Bro was shooting his inner demons 3 business days ago.
The thing is there are actually people who are in elo hell but this guy is just delusional for thinking he deserves more than he got ^^ He will likely still think he is in elo hell xD
Honestly, if he watched his replay back first, he wouldn't have sent it in. There is a 0% chance you watch back your (terrible) gameplay and go "Yeah, I was hard carrying."
@@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 The weird part is many Plat players have better mechanical skills than Diamonds, but their egos won't let them understand they have 0 game sense, and they don't climb. Not every Plat player, but I just see amazing aim and skill economy in that rank but many have no idea how to coordinate or how to save a losing game. (refers to scoreboard) might be the first indication that person won't climb as there's not much on the scoreboard that tells the full story.
That's me right there, not teh Ana in this vid, but was in that situation. I haven't played ranked in nearly a year because of it. Always get placed Silver out of placements. I proceeded to win 5 games in a row, my final match with 14K dmg and 30K heals (which no silvers get stats like that, also my best game ever of dmg and heals combined), no rank up, keeps me exactly in the same division in Silver. Then proceed to win 4 more in a row, lose one, then get my 5th win and again no rank up. Nearly every match I have the most heals and least amount of deaths of all the supports in the lobby. I was done with ranked after that, it defeated me mentally, I took a 6 month break from OW and still have yet to even attempt ranked, and probably will never again.
@@G_Lo2 same things happend to me back on console i was tank main i was getting like 5w 1 l no rank ups but they changed the system now so you know what percentage you are at rn
@@G_Lo2 If you think end of game stats are something worthy to look at (any stats), I suggest you ask yourself why you believe that. It sounds obvious, but I bet you will have a hard time stating a convincing reason.
@@LogicalKip I understand that end game stats aren't the most important part of game play. But that's all I can list on YT. I'm not going to sit her and grammatically dissect an entire VOD to give you more info. My gameplay is impactful, every single match - I stops ults, anti 3-5 players on the enemy team multiple times a game, avg scope ACC 62%ish with peaks up to 75%, die the least, heal the most, and it's silver so I even kill dps with ease, but the thing is Support doesn't win matches, you can aid in winning individual fights, but dps and tank have to have dps output to win at the end of the day. No silver Ana is getting the numbers I'm getting, having impactful plays during the match, and posses the awareness that I have. I'm not saying I'm top 500 or masters, but I'm definitely beyond any silver support that I face. I have made alt accounts and make it up to diamond on all of them, but I want to play on my main account (all my skins and gold weapons are on it) but I'm in ELO HELL for my main account. And unfortunately, every season reset isn't a true reset, it still pulls values from prior season, and if that wasn't the case, then my main account would also be diamond.
I'm in elo hell! I carried. My tank is trolling/feeder. Bro is ELO hell. He isn't stuck. He is keeping EVERYONE else stuck. I thought I was bad, but this dude...
there is every way this guy played through this game and thought he carried... A bronze player being this bad but wracking a ton of stats is only different from a plat player being bad for plat but wracking a ton of stats in one respect... they dont have the context to know what Plat skill looks like much less GM. It is entirely possible to think that you arn't that bad when you are that bad. You dont know youre that bad until you get good enough to move past it and then get forced to go back and watch how bad you were through the lens of knowing what good looks like.
The thing is that the only people who'd actually submit a replay are the players playing like this, because only the idiots in bronze see themselves as diamonds in the rough. It's a vicious cycle that reinforces itself
I really appreciate your description of tanks lol. Actually watching more of this, you rarely see someone with aim this bad these days. A lot of time I see people at lower ranks with pretty decent aim (which makes them think they deserve to be higher ranked, of course) but I genuinely feel like I'm looking at the aim of someone very new to video games in general. It's a rare treat to see someone with such fundamentally flawed technical skills in a competitive shooter like this. I'm hardly an overwatch pro but I really think this is one of those "you need to stay out of ranked and just play quickplay a bunch and focus on actually being able to hit things for awhile" moments. There's lots of really nice custom games for practicing aim to look into. If you're playing a hitscan and you can't even hit someone, let alone prioritize targets or get picks, you are absolutely the deadest weight known to man. Like seriously when they're all on the screen he's just wiggling his crosshairs around in their team's general direction. That was kind of hilarious lol
Bro I've always thought your content was good, flats, but holy shit, your flaming of this guy had me rolling. Honestly kinda made me wanna come back and play overwatch after years of not playing
@@Promptshot well actually I only started playing a little less than a year ago. I’ve never played on pc before starting overwatch, this is my first fps game and I just hit mid plat a few days ago
As someone who has climbed out of bronze (now silver), yes, there are ppl this delusional in these ranks. They'll shit talk everyone on their team (no heals, tank trash, etc.) and be the one with the most deaths on the team. They're also pretty shitty to the enemy team as well, depending on how well their team is doing (t bagging, spraying, taunting in chat). All in all, bronze/silver players have some of the biggest most fragile egos, which is weird bc we're at the bottom of the rank barrel.
Even though the gameplay doesn’t give a lot to learn from, Flats still gives us hard stuck golds and plats some helpful tips during this review. Always learning and I love it
Legit, I think Bronze players think Mauga ult is a vaccum. When the cage goes up they don't fully diaengage, they just put a little distance from the wall. Then they play around it like there isn't Mauga in there.
Elo hell does and does not exits at the same time. Because while in the long run the variances _will_ equalize, and your skill _will_ make a difference, that happens around 200 to 500 matches played. Until then it's mostly up to your luck with matchmaking and teammates.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness Maybe if youre silver trying to get out of bronze. then maybe 200-500 matches, and if it takes that long then maybe you are pretty close... or already at place you belong... so no, elo hell doesn't exist. besides most people say "elo hell" cos they believe theyre way better than the rank theyre in.. if that was the case they would farm that rank and rank up.
@@Curu That's the worst case. You cannot win without your team even in Silver, and it's pure luck what kind of team the matchmaker gives you. For most people it doesn't take that long, but it absolutely can and does happen to some people. It's just the nature of randomness. Not every person who is stuck and claims to be in "ELO hell" is actually that unlucky. Some are simply where they belong. But denying how much role can luck in a game with 9 other random people is just as stupid
@@EvanOfTheDarkness No one is that unlucky, if it was all down to randomness as you say.. then more people would climb and not be stuck? You as a god tier player are always on your team, You only need 4 people to fill. enemy team need 5 random people, chances of them getting a top 500 stuck in bronze like yourself is slim. If you duo queue you make the odds even better. so if it was all down to randomness... no you wouldnt be stuck 500 games. If youre stuck.. chances are its cos you belong to be there, just accept it and work on improving instead of bitching about teammates.
@@Curu I'm not stuck. I'm just saying it can happen. I also had bad loss streaks where there was nothing I could do. So are you more likely to win more after a bad loss streak? Nope, that's not how probability works, the past does not influence the future. If you belong in platinum, then climbing out of bronze and silver will be a breeze, because your impact is large. But you can still struggle to climb out of gold, if luck is not on your side. Particularly true for supports who have the least carry potential. Even with coin flips, statistics don't work well on the 10-20 scale, you wont usually get a 50-50. It only starts working at 100s scale. You can try it out if you want.
Lmao, you had it 100% from the jump. This is someone who's trying to mimic some streamer or tiktoker, but on a surface level. This person is delulu and the type of person that flames the whole team they're "carrying" lmao.
How many losses do you have to get to stay in S5 with 68 wins? I played 100 matches total in the last season I played and went from B5 (old OW1 B5, like, REALLY Bronze, we're talking
19:17 I like how you say a tank that goes forward. I can tell you, as a bronze tank, that the team hates it when you go forward. I can't tell you how many times my team yelled at me for fighting on the point instead of fighting from the corner. Just to keep the peace, I stay behind the damage as tank, at least they don't yell at me, lol.
I can't believe this person watched this game and genuinely thought to themselves, "Yeah I carried pretty hard while our dogshit tank was the reason we lost. I should send this to Flats." I have literally seen cheaters turn off their aimbot and still have better aim than whatever the hell this guy's aim was. Maybe he should try shooting everything around the enemies because he managed to miss 95% of his shots when he was aiming at someone.
Your editor missed censoring an F-bomb @ 11:35, just so you know. I know that sort of thing can play a factor in monetization of videos, and wouldn't want a single little slip-up like that to cost you any income you could've made.
@@jacc.cAlways love seeing the little guy succeed-- if I can contribute to that, all the better. Lmk if you ever want to get your channel off the ground I'll plug it for you
In 8 years of playing this game I’ve never been outside of plat or diamond, I cannot fathom the depths of stupidly that must plague someone who thinks bronze and silver is “elo hell”
@@Yazimoplat is 35 percent of the player base, diamond is 10 percent, plat is ine of the hardest ranks to get out of because of the player and skill differences
I consider myself to have absolutely atrocious aim...but this? Oh no. I feel better about myself, and I suck too much for someone to make me feel better.
@@Jam_Streets This is the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time 🤣🤣🤣 There's no way you think that controller with aim assist is easier than mouse/keyboard aim 🤣🤣🤣
@@overratedfool6900 Mouse and keyboard is better than aim assist in the hands of a skilled player. Aim assist is for those who struggle to aim. Not those that are good at. Typically. Now that we've established that. NOWHERE do they say that aim assist is better than mouse and keyboard. You've misinterpreted their argument. Edit: Your profile name is ironic.
@@downdriftvenom OK so this will be fun. "Mouse and keyboard is better than aim assist in the hands of a skilled player." I believe this is true. Even more so than it is better in the hands of a noob. "Aim assist is for those who struggle to aim. Not those that are good at." Maybe there's a weird exception or two out there that genuinely would turn aim assist off and aim better, but if you think all the GM ximmers on console are turning their aim assist off because they aim better without it, you're lost the plot. Aim assist helps everybody. Regarding what I suspect you actually meant though: go and watch some VODs of bronze players. Some on console and some on PC. Report back lol (you definitely won't). Console bronze player hit nowhere near as many of their shots as the bronze PC players. It's night and day difference. "Now that we've established that." "We" didn't establish anything lol. You just made up some complete nonsense and claimed it as fact 🤣 "NOWHERE do they say that aim assist is better than mouse and keyboard. You've misinterpreted their argument." No I haven't lol. Not at all. Are you drunk or something? "Edit: Your profile name is ironic." This sums you up so nicely. You've just called me intelligent. Well done genius.
I played OW1 til like 2020 and peaked Masters. I started OW2 this year, ranked bronze and coped by claiming "elo hell." After watching all of your bronze review vods, I climbed from it to Plat last month.
Funny how "ELO hell" has been a victim card used for 8 years now, yet somehow all the actually good players still end up in high ranks while the bad players stay in low ranks. Funny coincidence huh
Yea the only kind of Elo hell that exists is a temporary thing, like say you get the same two absolutely awful players in 10 games in a row, that will probably feel like hell, but once the variance/random chance normalizes over enough sample size, you will end up where you should be. Also Elo is a dudes name not an acronym
Elo Hell. My favorite of the Nine Circles of Hell… I heard once you enter, you can never leave. I love a good ole classic Spectating Bronze. What are we thinking? Is this guy really Bronze 4, do we think he should be higher ranked, or is it an iconic ego trip from an Air 5 player?
This guy is Vacuum 5. Can't hit a single shot even on Soldier, and somehow, inexplicably fails _spamming_ on Junkrat. This is not ELO hell, if anything he's placed too high.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness This gagged me. Vacuum 5 is the funniest shit I’ve read in a while… lmao 😭🤣 I’m still confused how he wasn’t hitting anything. Isn’t Soldier considered the easiest or most basic hero on PC?
As a high Plat low Diamond Junkrut main, watching this bronze player play Junkrat gave me gout. OMG, every time I see him just looking down instead of up, I kept moving my mouse like I was trying to help it look away from the floor. I was screaming LOOK UP GOD DAMN IT when he was shooting his projectiles. I'm hoping this player will understand the roasting is a way to get better. Love this content.
It appears as if (on soldier) he was attempting to aim by strafing with A and D keys, instead of aiming with the mouse. Aiming on the X axis using A and D keys, and aiming on the Y axis with the mouse, instead of using the mouse for the X and Y axis. Made my brain hurt
So for metal ranks, Soldier is definitely a hero where if you have above average mechanical skills, it mostly will carry you through to high gold/low plat (unless your game sense and positioning is omega bad). THIS IS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF THAT
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"You know headshots do more damage right?" Brother Flats, he can barely hit a body shot.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
16:26 "Shoot the Pharah, why are you still shooting the Moira" brother I don't think he was shooting EITHER of them, he was shooting the afterimages of a bygone era. Homie was shooting the suggestion of a player at that point. Bro was shooting his inner demons 3 business days ago.
Holy shit lol
💀💀
Bro was shooting into overwatch 1
He had concepts of a target.
Blud was shooting the scent of an existent being that had previously occupied that position in space-time
Every time someone says they're in ELO hell, most likely, they're the ELO demons 😂
That's a bar 🔥
That made me chuckle
bro dropped a hard ass bar
What does elo mean? I never heard of it
The thing is there are actually people who are in elo hell but this guy is just delusional for thinking he deserves more than he got ^^ He will likely still think he is in elo hell xD
maybe im not so bad after all
I literally think the same thing every single time I watch these lol
No kidding, his aim moght be worse than mine and at elast i can position
@@brubie7584100%! I could aim better blindfolded!
@@brubie7584nice job! Your next goal should probably be learning how to write!
@@flowwy_ Type?
6:50 Hitting "Group up" after literally abandoning 2 people then hiding is a new level of Crazy
Honestly, if he watched his replay back first, he wouldn't have sent it in. There is a 0% chance you watch back your (terrible) gameplay and go "Yeah, I was hard carrying."
Had a junkrat like that as well once, man went 16 deaths deep vs the rest of the teams
Bronze players who are delusional always make the best videos😂
yes and also there are players like this in every rank
@@transscribe mostly Bronze and Plat
@@transscribe The worst ones I find are in Unranked XD
@@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 The weird part is many Plat players have better mechanical skills than Diamonds, but their egos won't let them understand they have 0 game sense, and they don't climb. Not every Plat player, but I just see amazing aim and skill economy in that rank but many have no idea how to coordinate or how to save a losing game. (refers to scoreboard) might be the first indication that person won't climb as there's not much on the scoreboard that tells the full story.
Facts
Brother is in elo heaven, how did he even make it to bronze?
That's what I was thinking. This dude is absolutely bronze and it's not even close.
@@Not_CielI also reference myself in 3rd person 😅
bros gotta be in plastic 5
@@gavinpaull1793paper 5
@@gavinpaull1793 wooden 5
Can we get confirmation that this player was not drunk in this footage?
I have never seen a worse aim.
Holy shit did I rage the whole time!
And he said “i don’t know what to improve”
@@cuongtran-oo3zm Everything my dude 🤣
That looks like my aim when I'm sober. When I'm drunk though it's a whole new level of awesome!
@@nathansellers3870when i’m drunk or high i get cracked🤣
I'm bad at aiming, but at least I hit body shots especially on tank even thou I'm missing headshots (. _. )
"Your Ana is in elo hell because of *you*"
That's me right there, not teh Ana in this vid, but was in that situation. I haven't played ranked in nearly a year because of it. Always get placed Silver out of placements. I proceeded to win 5 games in a row, my final match with 14K dmg and 30K heals (which no silvers get stats like that, also my best game ever of dmg and heals combined), no rank up, keeps me exactly in the same division in Silver. Then proceed to win 4 more in a row, lose one, then get my 5th win and again no rank up. Nearly every match I have the most heals and least amount of deaths of all the supports in the lobby. I was done with ranked after that, it defeated me mentally, I took a 6 month break from OW and still have yet to even attempt ranked, and probably will never again.
@@G_Lo2 same things happend to me back on console i was tank main i was getting like 5w 1 l no rank ups but they changed the system now so you know what percentage you are at rn
I am ana from this video hahahah
@@G_Lo2 If you think end of game stats are something worthy to look at (any stats), I suggest you ask yourself why you believe that. It sounds obvious, but I bet you will have a hard time stating a convincing reason.
@@LogicalKip I understand that end game stats aren't the most important part of game play. But that's all I can list on YT. I'm not going to sit her and grammatically dissect an entire VOD to give you more info. My gameplay is impactful, every single match - I stops ults, anti 3-5 players on the enemy team multiple times a game, avg scope ACC 62%ish with peaks up to 75%, die the least, heal the most, and it's silver so I even kill dps with ease, but the thing is Support doesn't win matches, you can aid in winning individual fights, but dps and tank have to have dps output to win at the end of the day. No silver Ana is getting the numbers I'm getting, having impactful plays during the match, and posses the awareness that I have. I'm not saying I'm top 500 or masters, but I'm definitely beyond any silver support that I face. I have made alt accounts and make it up to diamond on all of them, but I want to play on my main account (all my skins and gold weapons are on it) but I'm in ELO HELL for my main account. And unfortunately, every season reset isn't a true reset, it still pulls values from prior season, and if that wasn't the case, then my main account would also be diamond.
I'm in elo hell! I carried. My tank is trolling/feeder.
Bro is ELO hell. He isn't stuck. He is keeping EVERYONE else stuck.
I thought I was bad, but this dude...
😂😂😂
bronze target priority never ceases to amaze me
@@bxnwxghxrn there's no use going after a target if they can't even hit them. Brother was missing shots on a Mauga. How is that even possible?
@t.d.a7881 never ceases to amaze me how people forget their own rank while succumbing to groupthink
There is no way this guy played through this game and thought he carried
I've had DPS go 3/8 in a game we barely clutch out screaming in vc about trash heals and yw
@@dann112211 ive had a dps (sombra) actively try and get zero damage she literally did nothing and it was comp what did i do to deserve that shit
there is every way this guy played through this game and thought he carried...
A bronze player being this bad but wracking a ton of stats is only different from a plat player being bad for plat but wracking a ton of stats in one respect... they dont have the context to know what Plat skill looks like much less GM. It is entirely possible to think that you arn't that bad when you are that bad. You dont know youre that bad until you get good enough to move past it and then get forced to go back and watch how bad you were through the lens of knowing what good looks like.
"carrying" barely into the match they're 0-2 K/D
no they were right they hard carried their team into losing that match
carrying their team down into elo hell
I'm genuinely teetering on "I hope this guy gets better" and "I hope this guy never plays again." This caused me genuine pain.
“That ain’t average, that’s like an acorn became sentient and tried to fight”
That's a slight against acorns
How does someone watch Flats cook people in this series and go, "No this won't be me". Self awareness is apparently rarer than we think
Dunning-Kruger is one hell of a drug.
It's like a kitchen nightmares episode
I know im not like this coz i actually have a headset (lol)
The thing is that the only people who'd actually submit a replay are the players playing like this, because only the idiots in bronze see themselves as diamonds in the rough. It's a vicious cycle that reinforces itself
"WHAT ARE YOU CARRYING?!?" The enemy team
this is the "Oh i have gold damage so i have to be the best player" kind of person for sure!!
Considering how much that guy is shooting the Mauga, I won't be surprised if he boasted about his trash damage team chat or vc.
He's barely carrying his own gun
“You know headshots do more damage right?” Lets just focus on them hitting anyone first
My kids started mostly on junkrat and soldier. They were better than this dude after about a month.
well kids are great at learning
junk and soldier are solid picks i main both of them
Kids can be great at video games, they have all the time in the world
Old video games are hard AF and kids were able to beat them for a reason
Omg do you game with your kids? That would be wholesome if you did 😊
@@jfp4life you don’t always need a crazy amount of time to get better at a game, sometimes you just need a working brain 😂
4:13 i had my right earphone off and i could hear the pharah
Thank god for players like these 🙏
Gives a proper confidence boost that my aim might be somewhat decent.
I need to have a mouse cam for this guy when he was playing soldier
Pretty sure he's playing on a trackpad.
At least I hope
I Would give anything to have Flats review one of my games and talk shit about my gameplay.
Lucio and mercy doing gods work stalling point. Flats "Is that the DVA coming to save the day!"
I remember trying to climb out of bronze back in OW1 as support. That shit was nightmare fuel lmao
are you trying to say u were bronze because of ur random team mates?
@@Yazimopulled myself from silver 5 to plat solo support. Silver was like babysitting.
@@沿海-z3n I agree silver is easy
I didn't know my brother Flats knew how to rap 2:36
This might be MF Doom 😭🙏
He was spitting some bars there xD
Fr @@nokdrnop3810
fats
It's gotta be the tire kills that grow his ego 3 sizes that game.
Imagine this guy just outing himself like this LMAO so bad
Dude is the definition of spray and pray
It’s incredible how delusional some people are
Man looked at the floor so much as Junkrat he must have tought there were zombies spawning from the floor.
he thinks he’s playing Castlevania
I really appreciate your description of tanks lol. Actually watching more of this, you rarely see someone with aim this bad these days. A lot of time I see people at lower ranks with pretty decent aim (which makes them think they deserve to be higher ranked, of course) but I genuinely feel like I'm looking at the aim of someone very new to video games in general. It's a rare treat to see someone with such fundamentally flawed technical skills in a competitive shooter like this. I'm hardly an overwatch pro but I really think this is one of those "you need to stay out of ranked and just play quickplay a bunch and focus on actually being able to hit things for awhile" moments. There's lots of really nice custom games for practicing aim to look into. If you're playing a hitscan and you can't even hit someone, let alone prioritize targets or get picks, you are absolutely the deadest weight known to man.
Like seriously when they're all on the screen he's just wiggling his crosshairs around in their team's general direction. That was kind of hilarious lol
The moment when we see that Venture started the bad play is my favorite of the entire video
"They play that role because they got bullied into it" Wow that cut deep
2:27 is a cold line I can’t even lie
Bro I've always thought your content was good, flats, but holy shit, your flaming of this guy had me rolling. Honestly kinda made me wanna come back and play overwatch after years of not playing
15:47 is when we see the true aim… and that’s when my drink saw the table because bruhhhh I was laughing SOOOOOO hard!!!
“Mauga is a Meatball!!!!”😂😂
My new favorite response is “if you wanna tell me how to play tank, q tank yourself and do it yourself”
Bro was carrying the weight of his audacity
17:45 had me properly laughing. Thank you that chatter 😆
19:43 If they would've popped visor here, i woulda lost it.
If you're in bronze, it's never an elo problem.
As a junk player in gold this was sad to see. Also the tire in the beginning was one of the easiest tire spots I’ve ever seen
If youre a junk player and stuck in gold, youre just as bad buddy
@@Promptshot well actually I only started playing a little less than a year ago. I’ve never played on pc before starting overwatch, this is my first fps game and I just hit mid plat a few days ago
Yo, if you notice, on soldier, it rly looks like he's not moving his mouse, just moving his character to aline the crosshair
Sometimes I wonder if the people submitting these intionally talk shit to have a good Roasting Bronzes or if they're actually this delusionnal
As someone who has climbed out of bronze (now silver), yes, there are ppl this delusional in these ranks. They'll shit talk everyone on their team (no heals, tank trash, etc.) and be the one with the most deaths on the team. They're also pretty shitty to the enemy team as well, depending on how well their team is doing (t bagging, spraying, taunting in chat). All in all, bronze/silver players have some of the biggest most fragile egos, which is weird bc we're at the bottom of the rank barrel.
Even though the gameplay doesn’t give a lot to learn from, Flats still gives us hard stuck golds and plats some helpful tips during this review. Always learning and I love it
This was an old video, it’s kind of weird though that flats didn’t catch the soldier walling in this video it was as clear as day.
I can honestly say your critiques on him, definitely made me more aware of things when I’m playing
Legit, I think Bronze players think Mauga ult is a vaccum. When the cage goes up they don't fully diaengage, they just put a little distance from the wall. Then they play around it like there isn't Mauga in there.
Is flat and emoung doing the good and bad cop thing? In those POV vídeos, i love them btw xD
The moment he tried to aim as Soldier is hilarious with Flats' comments lmao
I'm a pc player with no headset and I still have better sound awareness with old audio stereos than many "showoffs"
Elo hell…. Always the excuse. lol
Jokes aside I’m starting to believe
Elo hell does and does not exits at the same time. Because while in the long run the variances _will_ equalize, and your skill _will_ make a difference, that happens around 200 to 500 matches played. Until then it's mostly up to your luck with matchmaking and teammates.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness Maybe if youre silver trying to get out of bronze. then maybe 200-500 matches, and if it takes that long then maybe you are pretty close... or already at place you belong... so no, elo hell doesn't exist. besides most people say "elo hell" cos they believe theyre way better than the rank theyre in.. if that was the case they would farm that rank and rank up.
@@Curu That's the worst case. You cannot win without your team even in Silver, and it's pure luck what kind of team the matchmaker gives you. For most people it doesn't take that long, but it absolutely can and does happen to some people. It's just the nature of randomness.
Not every person who is stuck and claims to be in "ELO hell" is actually that unlucky. Some are simply where they belong. But denying how much role can luck in a game with 9 other random people is just as stupid
@@EvanOfTheDarkness No one is that unlucky, if it was all down to randomness as you say.. then more people would climb and not be stuck? You as a god tier player are always on your team, You only need 4 people to fill. enemy team need 5 random people, chances of them getting a top 500 stuck in bronze like yourself is slim. If you duo queue you make the odds even better. so if it was all down to randomness... no you wouldnt be stuck 500 games. If youre stuck.. chances are its cos you belong to be there, just accept it and work on improving instead of bitching about teammates.
@@Curu I'm not stuck. I'm just saying it can happen. I also had bad loss streaks where there was nothing I could do. So are you more likely to win more after a bad loss streak? Nope, that's not how probability works, the past does not influence the future.
If you belong in platinum, then climbing out of bronze and silver will be a breeze, because your impact is large. But you can still struggle to climb out of gold, if luck is not on your side.
Particularly true for supports who have the least carry potential. Even with coin flips, statistics don't work well on the 10-20 scale, you wont usually get a 50-50. It only starts working at 100s scale. You can try it out if you want.
Right in time for my lunch! Thank you Flats!
Lmao, you had it 100% from the jump.
This is someone who's trying to mimic some streamer or tiktoker, but on a surface level.
This person is delulu and the type of person that flames the whole team they're "carrying" lmao.
Absolutely tragic junkrat gameplay 😭😭 sometimes I forget how decent i am until I watch these videos
20:49 Should he have the confidence in his mechanical skills? I sure as heck wouldn't
Keep in mind, this guy is silver 5 on tank WITH 68 WINS!
How many losses do you have to get to stay in S5 with 68 wins? I played 100 matches total in the last season I played and went from B5 (old OW1 B5, like, REALLY Bronze, we're talking
I guess on the first visor the Ana forced his hand with the nano, but he definitely could have taken the window earlier.
19:17 I like how you say a tank that goes forward. I can tell you, as a bronze tank, that the team hates it when you go forward. I can't tell you how many times my team yelled at me for fighting on the point instead of fighting from the corner. Just to keep the peace, I stay behind the damage as tank, at least they don't yell at me, lol.
I can't believe this person watched this game and genuinely thought to themselves, "Yeah I carried pretty hard while our dogshit tank was the reason we lost. I should send this to Flats." I have literally seen cheaters turn off their aimbot and still have better aim than whatever the hell this guy's aim was. Maybe he should try shooting everything around the enemies because he managed to miss 95% of his shots when he was aiming at someone.
Your editor missed censoring an F-bomb @ 11:35, just so you know. I know that sort of thing can play a factor in monetization of videos, and wouldn't want a single little slip-up like that to cost you any income you could've made.
you're actually so kind for that bro what a great man 🫡
@@jacc.cAlways love seeing the little guy succeed-- if I can contribute to that, all the better. Lmk if you ever want to get your channel off the ground I'll plug it for you
This was so bad I thought that he was purposely playing bad at first. I have never felt so good about my gameplay.
I love Flats's reactions to things sometimes. Just absolutely ridiculous! XD
id love to 1v1 these kind of players but it might be a bit unfair on them
In 8 years of playing this game I’ve never been outside of plat or diamond, I cannot fathom the depths of stupidly that must plague someone who thinks bronze and silver is “elo hell”
r u saying plat or dia is elohell?
@@Yazimoplat is 35 percent of the player base, diamond is 10 percent, plat is ine of the hardest ranks to get out of because of the player and skill differences
@@BasedCannon hardest rank to get out of is GM, 2nd hardest is masters, then diamond and after that plat, so not really.
@@Yazimoare you slow or what, just bc it’s the highest rank don’t mean it’s the hardest
@@emma6648 rofl what? delusional much?
Man I used to play overwatch like crazy now I'm just out the loop but love watching flats roast vids
Buddy I'm stuck in metal ranks and the Junkrat play made me pause mid-chew and question my existence.
I love when flats treats them how they treat there ego 😂
Its the constant jumping and reloding that is killing me
"It's like an acorn became sentient and tried to fight." You're a poet, that's fuckin hilarious.
I consider myself to have absolutely atrocious aim...but this? Oh no. I feel better about myself, and I suck too much for someone to make me feel better.
give this guy a controller with aim assist and they'll still manage to miss if that's what their aim with mouse looks like
@@Jam_Streets This is the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time 🤣🤣🤣
There's no way you think that controller with aim assist is easier than mouse/keyboard aim 🤣🤣🤣
@@overratedfool6900 Mouse and keyboard is better than aim assist in the hands of a skilled player. Aim assist is for those who struggle to aim. Not those that are good at. Typically. Now that we've established that. NOWHERE do they say that aim assist is better than mouse and keyboard.
You've misinterpreted their argument.
Edit: Your profile name is ironic.
@@downdriftvenom OK so this will be fun.
"Mouse and keyboard is better than aim assist in the hands of a skilled player."
I believe this is true. Even more so than it is better in the hands of a noob.
"Aim assist is for those who struggle to aim. Not those that are good at."
Maybe there's a weird exception or two out there that genuinely would turn aim assist off and aim better, but if you think all the GM ximmers on console are turning their aim assist off because they aim better without it, you're lost the plot. Aim assist helps everybody.
Regarding what I suspect you actually meant though: go and watch some VODs of bronze players. Some on console and some on PC. Report back lol (you definitely won't). Console bronze player hit nowhere near as many of their shots as the bronze PC players. It's night and day difference.
"Now that we've established that."
"We" didn't establish anything lol. You just made up some complete nonsense and claimed it as fact 🤣
"NOWHERE do they say that aim assist is better than mouse and keyboard. You've misinterpreted their argument."
No I haven't lol. Not at all. Are you drunk or something?
"Edit: Your profile name is ironic."
This sums you up so nicely. You've just called me intelligent. Well done genius.
I think a torb turret placed in a small room would’ve had more impact
I played OW1 til like 2020 and peaked Masters. I started OW2 this year, ranked bronze and coped by claiming "elo hell." After watching all of your bronze review vods, I climbed from it to Plat last month.
It’s the fact they have the audacity to flame their teammates in chat instead of using a headset like a real man.
Flats’ reaction to his aim with soldier has me fucking dying 😂😂
4:32 WHYYY DIDNT THEY USE TIRE!!!!
Funny how "ELO hell" has been a victim card used for 8 years now, yet somehow all the actually good players still end up in high ranks while the bad players stay in low ranks. Funny coincidence huh
Yea the only kind of Elo hell that exists is a temporary thing, like say you get the same two absolutely awful players in 10 games in a row, that will probably feel like hell, but once the variance/random chance normalizes over enough sample size, you will end up where you should be.
Also Elo is a dudes name not an acronym
What is ELO lol
"Typing Timmy" and "Low Ground Larry" 😂😂
Elo Hell. My favorite of the Nine Circles of Hell… I heard once you enter, you can never leave.
I love a good ole classic Spectating Bronze. What are we thinking? Is this guy really Bronze 4, do we think he should be higher ranked, or is it an iconic ego trip from an Air 5 player?
This guy is Vacuum 5. Can't hit a single shot even on Soldier, and somehow, inexplicably fails _spamming_ on Junkrat. This is not ELO hell, if anything he's placed too high.
@@EvanOfTheDarkness This gagged me. Vacuum 5 is the funniest shit I’ve read in a while… lmao 😭🤣 I’m still confused how he wasn’t hitting anything. Isn’t Soldier considered the easiest or most basic hero on PC?
@@bluefaygox23 Yes, he is. You literally point and shoot. Sometimes press right click for rocket.
Haven't even played Overwatch in a couple years and this just gave me brain damage
Some times he’s like, shoot, pause, shoot, pause. Hahaha
I'm surprised he was able to open the application with that aim
As a high Plat low Diamond Junkrut main, watching this bronze player play Junkrat gave me gout. OMG, every time I see him just looking down instead of up, I kept moving my mouse like I was trying to help it look away from the floor. I was screaming LOOK UP GOD DAMN IT when he was shooting his projectiles. I'm hoping this player will understand the roasting is a way to get better. Love this content.
Clearly he's used to adjusting for Soldier's old bullet spread pattern
I'm 10 minutes in and this is either the most delulu silver player or some kind of practical joke
This man is suited to be a junkrat player, he's got the delusions down
It appears as if (on soldier) he was attempting to aim by strafing with A and D keys, instead of aiming with the mouse. Aiming on the X axis using A and D keys, and aiming on the Y axis with the mouse, instead of using the mouse for the X and Y axis. Made my brain hurt
God I absolutely LOVE these videos please please keep them coming. It would be funny if they had the player in the call also lol
You are not in ELO hell, you are there because you should be there.
*gets 2 picks with a visor* I'm the backbone of this household
"bro ur trash" im fucking dying rn lmaoooo
I'm happy I can say I was in Elo hell for dps either that or I've learned much. I used to be bronze 5 dps and now I'm silver 3 :D
you weren't in elo hell you just got better just keep learning and you'll keep climbing
10:53 thiiiiis. The number of people I witness never utilize that damn wall!!!
Watching this makes me believe I'm closer to Grand Master than this guy to Bronze 1
3:21 "... yeah that's definitely tank's fault" 💀😂
So for metal ranks, Soldier is definitely a hero where if you have above average mechanical skills, it mostly will carry you through to high gold/low plat (unless your game sense and positioning is omega bad). THIS IS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF THAT
“It’s bronze Pharah, they’re not in the sky.”
Truth 😂