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1. Work Sharp Precision Adjust (I'm super curious if their "fine" grit is actually fine enough) 2. Sand Paper (This is common for people who sharpen broadheads for hunting) 3. Apples-to-apples comparison of polishing with a high-grit stone versus equivalent grit stropping compound. (Polishing with high grit 4000-8000+ does improve sharpness beyond the 1000 grit sharpening stage, but I don't know the pros and cons of doing this with a stone versus a strop)
Im stoked at the rate you’re putting out content again. I really do think your knife videos are the best on youtube. You dont waste our time. You speak very honestly about products. You dont try to get people to buy stuff they dont need. Its really pretty refreshing to just watch you do what you do. I appreciate your content Sir, and look forward to many more of them.
I 100% agree. What makes his videos so excellent is that he actually shows the macro pictures of the edge and tests things. We can see WHY certain methods do or don't work. So much more scientific. Love it. Earned a sub :)
I got one of those, but with diamond stones, for my sister, who's knives were always duller than spoons. It works for her. I use water stones because I like my knives to actually cut. I've learned a lot from this channel.
I couldn't sharpen a knife well before I saw this channel. Now my knife is always hair-splitting sharp! It's quite fun until you nick yourself and bleed for the next 2 hours, lol.
I got a diamond one for free, with the 1st grinding wheel and then wiggling diamond stones. Seems ancient at least 30 years old and has worked pretty well in my light use. Great to bring to a friend's house if they have a bunch of blown out dull knives.
@@IronGoober Hello, my fellow goober. After my last knife sharpening session, I got my knifes so sharp, on a downwards chop one sliced the hole side part of my left pointer finger (skin) off. The knife was sharp enough that the skin flap lived... It has since stuck back down & I will have a cool scar at least, lol.
@@z-ZONDER-z_E15 I did this once as well with an Xacto-knife. It cut through about 3/4 of the tip of my pinky, most of the nail too... it healed back together and I lost feeling for a few months, but it returned. So you are getting your knives at least as sharp as Xacto does! (probably better)
I like that you are honest and say that electric sharpeners has their use, even if stones are a more "complete" solution. Yes, electric sharpeners can be used for reprofiling. And for people who don't know about the sharpening process, it is better than nothing.
I have a couple pull through sharp belt Sharpeners that work fairly well as far as for a pull through system, if you ever wanna test one of them I'd be happy to send it your way. No worries if anything happens they are for testing purposes
I've used one of these for a few years with my restaurant kitchen knives. While it doesn't make thing crazy sharp, it gives a consistent bevel and decent sharp . My staff can use it without messing up the knives accidentally. I agree that it does have its place.
My mom has one of these, one time she asked could I sharpen few of her knives with it (she knows how to use it but can't stand the sound). I was very very skeptical at first, but damn, after that, the knives were decent, even when considering that it took only few minutes. Of course they are far from SHARP, I know cause I'm a hand tool woodworker who sharpens everything freehand with no jigs etc.
I don't agree. In every professional kitchen I worked, where somebody brought one of these in; the knives were all used to the core. Too much abrasion and only the burr actually ''cut'', so it does not stay sharp long, so you have to re-sharpen it every day. With stones the knife stay sharp very long before it start to get dull, and you get less abrasion. With cheap knives those machines can be allright if you are really close on time and you need many quick sharp knives for a vegetable cutting session.
I have one of those ChefsChoice sharpeners in my kitchen for the last 15 years. I'm on my second. I use it to sharpen my set of 9+ HENCKELS knives about once a year. In between I use steel. Works great! The knives are as sharp as when they were new. Yes, after 20+ years, some of the knives are about 1-2 mm less steel on them. These were the 15+ year old knives and I was still learning not to be so aggressive with the sharpener. The newer knives 8-10 years old have lost minimal steel. For us they work great. Use them on fruit, vegetables, cooked meat, and uncooked meat. Some of my recipe requires very thinly sliced (near paper thin for hot pot) meat.. no problem. Tomato skin.. no problem. Skinning salmon.. no problem. Certainly, it is better than trying to sharpen them by hand with a stone or diamond coated steel sharpener. I save those for my wood working tools like chisels and hand planes. IMO .. for the kitchen ChefsChoice works fine for me.
I have one, and it takes forever. I wish I found this channel years ago, and I would have saved a lot of money chasing stupid sharpening systems. The chefs choice works but takes what feels like years to get a new edge on. Using stones recommended on this channel, I'm able to get a new edge much faster. It did take me a couple of weeks practice to get good at it.
Great video. For chef knives one key technique is microbevels. Sharpen with 7-10 degrees and finish with 15 degrees alternating edge leading strokes. Even soft steel is good enough to hold an edge with this and it will cut much better than a thick 15-20 degree edge that is more commonly used. Automatic sharpeners are expensive and usually don't allow you to do that so you get better edge for cheaper with pretty much any stone.
I have a similar model Chef's Choice sharpener and absolutely love it. My kitchen knives will shave hair after a few maintenance passes through the sharpener. The angle is far too steep for an EDC pocket knife but for a kitchen knife? I couldn't be happier.
Thanks for all your great videos! I've been sharpening knives for 50 years and I've used one these for most of that time along with several other methods. I think this sharpener has its place and can be very useful. I usually do finish them off on a strop.
I got one of these as a gift about 20 years ago. It served me well for many years but it definitely ruined some of my pocket knives because of not being able to fit the entire edge into the sharpener. So I have a lot of knives with those divots as you showed on the Spyderco. I've since then upgraded to various other guided systems. My current favorite is the workshop Pro Precision adjust
I’ve used this electric sharpener for 5 years. I didn’t even know all you have taught me. Interesting that on every one of my 14 kitchen knives, the sharpener has worked perfectly. The knives are and have stayed paper cutting monsters. So thanks for your entertaining content that does have any relation to my experience.
I used to use this Chef's Choice sharpener. It works well on chef's knives and long blades. It doesn't work well on small blades, paring, fillet or boning knives. You can't sharpen close enough to the hilt and you must be very careful with the flexible fillet or boning blades. You've convinced me to give the diamond stone and strop and try.
The sponsor segment cracked me up. I was seriously waiting for you to plug a patreon membership, or re-launch your custom knife site (take my money). All you want is a like and subscribe (done). Can you review some other electric sharpeners? Like the worksharp Ken onion? Had that one on my radar for months while I keep practicing by hand.
I got a Chefs Choice Trizor. After initial sharpening, I use it once a week and with a single pass in 2 stages I get a very sharp knife. Very happy with it. I'm way too lazy to use a stone but this only takes me literally 10 seconds
Hi outdoors55, thanks for the good videos. I had a chef's choice cc120 for two years. The knives became sharp but not razor sharp. I bought a work sharp Ken onion and I was really amazed about the sharpness. This machine is so much better than the cc120. The only thing I don't like is that the belts are not so long lasting as they say. And sharpening is a bit dusty. So if you have a lung disease, use it outdoors.
What's the rotation of the sharpener? It's my that working a blade towards the edge create a more profound burr, and working a blade away from the edge reduces the burr. I could be totally off-base.
Long term: I've been using an Edge Select 120 (identical older model with diamond wheels) for 15+ years on stainless and carbon steel kitchen knives and it's still working ok. It's obviously not perfect but is more than good enough for my use. Sadly the middle diamond wheel and right side strop wheel are showing signs of wear and from what I can see they do not simply sell replacement wheels (which is a shame as the unit still works perfectly).
I’d be interested to see you review the worksharp electric knife sharpener. I’ve had awesome luck with it and while it won’t be quite as good as stones, the edges hold up well and are plenty sharp for my purposes
Perhaps wiping down the knife before going on to # 3 stropping might keep that wheel cleaner. I had mine a few years before I found the magnetic catch bar on the bottom. Now I clean it regularly. Good video, thanks.
I have used the Chef's Choice XV for years. For Western style chef's knives WITHOUT a bolster, they are amazing. For pocket knives, chef's knives with a bolster, or super steels (e.g. the Magnacut on my Meglios) they are not good. They are PERFECT for the ATK crowd with their Victorinox 8"ers.
Awesome stuff as always. Thanks for the hard work. Can you review Work Sharp products like the Ken Onion, Precision Adjust, and the rolling knife sharpener? Or just any rolling knife sharpener?
The best sharpening expert online been following for 4 years now and Wish see more content I even watched same video's like 20 times that's how quality and informative it is to learn sharpening methods keep more content coming I am thirsty for more good content ❤
Great content as per usual…I like hand sharpening way too much to ever purchase anything else, but did enjoy the video. Photography is excellent and as they say” a picture says a thousand words “ . Cheers from Canada 🍁 MikeR.
I'm looking for the diamond stone you're showing to remove the burr at 7:40, but the link in the description goes to a Kalolary Whetstone Knife Sharpening Stone 1000/4000 Grits instead. I'm no sharpening pro so I can be wrong but from watching your videos I think I understand that these are two very different stones used for different reasons, right? Your link goes to the same whetstone in other videos too so I'm confused as to why and where I can find the Diamond stone you're showing in the videos?
I have the trizor xv and I can't seem to get my knives sharp. I get it to a point where I get a burr every te I go through stage 2 (the burr just flips sides) but when I hit stage 3 it feels like the burr goes away but doesn't feel very sharp anymore. It'll do but the knife gets dull quickly. Might be garbage knives but I do believe my third stage is hosed even with the cleaning.
I would love to see a up close review of the Warthog V-Sharp Classic II Professional Diamond Knife Sharpener. As I think it would be better than the pull sharpeners, but I'm not sure how far away it would be from a single grit stone.
I used to be a bit of a knife-sharpness fetish myself although I never resorted to macro lenses or microscopes. I found over the years that a clean pair of crock sticks would make most of my knives sharp enough to shave with. But, with a kitchen and closet full of knives I needed some way for my wife to sharpen them and she did not like the crock sticks. So, several days ago I bought a Chef's Choice electric sharpener similar to but not exactly like the one you tested. I think mine is the 15xv. I'd say I've sharpened approximately 20 knives of widely varying shape and quality. All are quite sharp now including one knife I've had for decades that I'd never put a good edge on no matter how I tried. Most of them are not as sharp as if I had meticulously sharpened them by hand but several of them are. A couple of these were among the last ones sharpened. So after 20 knives, maybe more, (many of which were quite dull back-of-the-drawer knives) I have not experienced the problem you did. How did I test my knives? Feeling for a bur with my thumb before honing (step 3) and then actual food prep. No microscopes. No slicing paper. Just real prep of cooked and raw meat and various types of vegetables. Pleasantly surprised and my wife can work the machine as well as I can. I have not tested the machine on my hunting, skinning and butchering knives yet. Some of these are high quality some are junk. So we'll see. How long before I encounter the same problem you did? I don't know but after 20 knives no evidence of it yet.
I'd like to see the Lansky Precision Guide systems along with the Wicked Edge GO system (specifically the GO just because it's the more "affordable" of their lineup). I've personally been using the Lansky Standard Diamond 3 stone system and got the fine ceramic as well as leather strop add-ons. There's a little bit of set up each time, but it takes the guess work out holding an angle.
I have two of these sharpeners, a 15 and a 20 degree, both work just fine for me. I think it's because I just use them for about 5 nice German and Japan made kitchen knives, great steel, the come out very sharp in a few seconds. Your test is on metal I personally would never run through a Chef's Choice machine. S110V is about as difficult to sharpen as they come and cheap crappy knives I got rid of decades ago, both of those are not really what that system is for, unless you are out to prove it can't do what wet stones and tons of experience can do. I have s110v, Maximent and Rex 121 sitting here and I would never think about treating them like a kitchen knife because they are so different in shape and metal structure. Use tools for what the are intended and life gets way easier to live. Cheers.
You need the Precision Edge model by Chefs Choice also sold under Wusthof. Nothing is going to beat manual sharpening, but most consumers don’t have time or just don’t want to.
I’d love to see some of these macro-shot evaluations on the work sharp KO belt driven sharpener. I used that product before learning to sharpen by hand with whet stones and diamond plates.
I'm curious: You never mentioned emptying the waste material tray underneath. Was it too full and loading up the wheels ? I like my Chefs Choice unit. 😊
Again, nice vid Alex! It seems that you infected not just me, but my neighbour also. I have the kuromaku set (1000,2000,5000), and atoma diamond plate 400 will arrive soon, hopefully... After that i just have to replace the green gunk with some quality stropping material (3 and 1 micron), and i'm done... Thx!
I think I will try this: knife sharpener you 'pass through" to get the initial bevel then use a stone (I just bought one) to get the burrs out, and further my stone doesn't use water but I'll keep in mind you have to clean it once in a while to get rid of the clogging materials.
Thank your for another great video, I personally would like to know what your thoughts are on the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust knife sharpener.
Love these videos. Sure, one could argue that you're just repeating what every knife enthusiast (be it amateur or professional) already knows. But there's a difference between "knives just don't feel as sharp" or second-hand "everyone who knew about knives when I got started told me they're junk, so I'll parrot that", and what you're doing here with the actual results of repeated testing (as opposed to a single sharpening session) and the close-ups of the edge. I only feel sorry for the knives that had to suffer as a result. But I understand that you can't make these videos and only use cheap Ikea knives, as that would not be representative of the kind of stuff we all carry. So thank you for sacrificing the longevity of your knives for our education.
The macro photography is fantastic and really illustrates the issues you ran into with burr reduction. Suggestion: Work Sharp Culinary E5 It will not say in the manual but hold down the button until it starts to make it run without a timer.
Hello Outdoor and guys, I want to buy sharpening stones but I don't know which ones. Could you give me an advice? Which are best between shapton kuromaku, shapton glass or DMT dia sharp or any other brand? I want the knifes to be very sharp and have it fast. xD Thank you for all your recommendations.
I really like this style of video and I would love to hear your opinion on the Sharpens Best sharpeners and maybe their videos. Because they seem pretty weird but interesting at the same time
I use the sharpener and find it much easier to use than using a stone. That is the big advantage for me. You can get started straight away instead of spending a long time practicing manual sharpening on cheap knives.
Really enjoying your content! Have you done a review of the Horl 2? I'm sure it'll probably have most knife aficionados turning their noses up but it seems like a good option for someone who wants a a repeatably sharp knife without a learning curve. Tbh I've already bought one but I'd like to know the opinion of someone who actually knows what they're talking about!
I have one like this and I've always wanted to know what the scratch pattern looks like. I've never had any problems with it removing the burr, but I have suspected that the grit is not terribly fine. To what extent would stopping it with some finer abrasives bring it to a higher level of sharpness?
It would help remove the burr that formed. However since the burr is so large you would probably need to take it to the stone first. A strop wont help much for a burr like this.
so i have to ask about the stropping discs did you wipe the knife clean in between each disc? I'm not a fan of these types of "sharpeners", but i have to say that not wiping your blade off in between the different steps is a mistake
Thanks for the video. I purchased the electric sharpener prior to seeing your excellent video. Can you link the sharpening stone and strop used in the video?
2:18 - harder steels will never sharpen well on perpendicular powered wheels, unless they're fluid cooled (water/oil). They're okay to profile... but even at that, they still put too much heat in the edge. These cheap powered sharpeners are great for cheap knives... but not for hard steel.
Just found your channel and I’m loving it keep up the good work mate, also would you be able to do a full diamond stone sharpening/ maintenance video? Going from beginner steps for sharpening on the diamond stone to more advanced things related to it and general maintenance?
When it comes to ChefsChoice, people suggest to get the 15XV as it's cheaper and makes a hybrid edge that supposedly performs better than the 1520. Perhaps you can test this one day to the 1520?
From what i can see theres no difference between the 1520 and the 15xv other than the model number. The angles are the same and both advertise the same "triple bevel" design.
This is the sharpener I tested⬇
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Can you make a video on sharpening convex edges also sharpening outdoors which is the best stone for camping situations
You should try the work sharp ken onion! Cheers!
Global Minosharp 2 - or similar ceramic wheels with water please.
The work sharp pull through please it uses diamond and ceramic rollers
1. Work Sharp Precision Adjust (I'm super curious if their "fine" grit is actually fine enough)
2. Sand Paper (This is common for people who sharpen broadheads for hunting)
3. Apples-to-apples comparison of polishing with a high-grit stone versus equivalent grit stropping compound. (Polishing with high grit 4000-8000+ does improve sharpness beyond the 1000 grit sharpening stage, but I don't know the pros and cons of doing this with a stone versus a strop)
that macro lens was the best investment ma man, can't get enough of the close ups, they give so much !
It's about to get even better 😉
o shit, now you got me hyped@@OUTDOORS55
Im stoked at the rate you’re putting out content again. I really do think your knife videos are the best on youtube. You dont waste our time. You speak very honestly about products. You dont try to get people to buy stuff they dont need. Its really pretty refreshing to just watch you do what you do. I appreciate your content Sir, and look forward to many more of them.
Thanks I really appreciate it! Also, thanks for watching!🙏👊
@@OUTDOORS55bro I just basted after 10 days 😭😭😭😭😭👺😭👺🗣️
Your knife and sharpening videos are the best on youtube, I've learned so much and gained a useful skill, love your videos.
An absolute reference for everyone, from the everyday "cutting tool" user to the sharpening geek !
I 100% agree. What makes his videos so excellent is that he actually shows the macro pictures of the edge and tests things. We can see WHY certain methods do or don't work. So much more scientific. Love it. Earned a sub :)
fully agree! thank you alexander for your efforts!
I got one of those, but with diamond stones, for my sister, who's knives were always duller than spoons. It works for her.
I use water stones because I like my knives to actually cut.
I've learned a lot from this channel.
I couldn't sharpen a knife well before I saw this channel. Now my knife is always hair-splitting sharp! It's quite fun until you nick yourself and bleed for the next 2 hours, lol.
I got a diamond one for free, with the 1st grinding wheel and then wiggling diamond stones. Seems ancient at least 30 years old and has worked pretty well in my light use. Great to bring to a friend's house if they have a bunch of blown out dull knives.
@@IronGooberA deep cut with lots of blood, means it was a successful sharpening session.
@@IronGoober Hello, my fellow goober. After my last knife sharpening session, I got my knifes so sharp, on a downwards chop one sliced the hole side part of my left pointer finger (skin) off. The knife was sharp enough that the skin flap lived... It has since stuck back down & I will have a cool scar at least, lol.
@@z-ZONDER-z_E15 I did this once as well with an Xacto-knife. It cut through about 3/4 of the tip of my pinky, most of the nail too... it healed back together and I lost feeling for a few months, but it returned. So you are getting your knives at least as sharp as Xacto does! (probably better)
I like that you are honest and say that electric sharpeners has their use, even if stones are a more "complete" solution. Yes, electric sharpeners can be used for reprofiling. And for people who don't know about the sharpening process, it is better than nothing.
I have a couple pull through sharp belt Sharpeners that work fairly well as far as for a pull through system, if you ever wanna test one of them I'd be happy to send it your way. No worries if anything happens they are for testing purposes
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Ok two of my favors content creators chatting - that’s cool.
The amount of S110v steel that was removed just breaks my heart
I've used one of these for a few years with my restaurant kitchen knives. While it doesn't make thing crazy sharp, it gives a consistent bevel and decent sharp . My staff can use it without messing up the knives accidentally. I agree that it does have its place.
My mom has one of these, one time she asked could I sharpen few of her knives with it (she knows how to use it but can't stand the sound). I was very very skeptical at first, but damn, after that, the knives were decent, even when considering that it took only few minutes. Of course they are far from SHARP, I know cause I'm a hand tool woodworker who sharpens everything freehand with no jigs etc.
I don't agree. In every professional kitchen I worked, where somebody brought one of these in; the knives were all used to the core. Too much abrasion and only the burr actually ''cut'', so it does not stay sharp long, so you have to re-sharpen it every day. With stones the knife stay sharp very long before it start to get dull, and you get less abrasion. With cheap knives those machines can be allright if you are really close on time and you need many quick sharp knives for a vegetable cutting session.
I have one of those ChefsChoice sharpeners in my kitchen for the last 15 years. I'm on my second. I use it to sharpen my set of 9+ HENCKELS knives about once a year. In between I use steel. Works great! The knives are as sharp as when they were new. Yes, after 20+ years, some of the knives are about 1-2 mm less steel on them. These were the 15+ year old knives and I was still learning not to be so aggressive with the sharpener. The newer knives 8-10 years old have lost minimal steel. For us they work great. Use them on fruit, vegetables, cooked meat, and uncooked meat. Some of my recipe requires very thinly sliced (near paper thin for hot pot) meat.. no problem. Tomato skin.. no problem. Skinning salmon.. no problem. Certainly, it is better than trying to sharpen them by hand with a stone or diamond coated steel sharpener. I save those for my wood working tools like chisels and hand planes. IMO .. for the kitchen ChefsChoice works fine for me.
I can second this 100%.
I can third this also👍
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Good and easy for long kitchen knifes. For EDC I go to sharpening local firm. I just wait 10 min outside and pay 5€ for 2 knifes.
I have one, and it takes forever. I wish I found this channel years ago, and I would have saved a lot of money chasing stupid sharpening systems. The chefs choice works but takes what feels like years to get a new edge on. Using stones recommended on this channel, I'm able to get a new edge much faster. It did take me a couple of weeks practice to get good at it.
Great video.
For chef knives one key technique is microbevels. Sharpen with 7-10 degrees and finish with 15 degrees alternating edge leading strokes. Even soft steel is good enough to hold an edge with this and it will cut much better than a thick 15-20 degree edge that is more commonly used.
Automatic sharpeners are expensive and usually don't allow you to do that so you get better edge for cheaper with pretty much any stone.
I have a similar model Chef's Choice sharpener and absolutely love it. My kitchen knives will shave hair after a few maintenance passes through the sharpener. The angle is far too steep for an EDC pocket knife but for a kitchen knife? I couldn't be happier.
Thanks for all your great videos! I've been sharpening knives for 50 years and I've used one these for most of that time along with several other methods. I think this sharpener has its place and can be very useful. I usually do finish them off on a strop.
I got one of these as a gift about 20 years ago. It served me well for many years but it definitely ruined some of my pocket knives because of not being able to fit the entire edge into the sharpener. So I have a lot of knives with those divots as you showed on the Spyderco. I've since then upgraded to various other guided systems. My current favorite is the workshop Pro Precision adjust
I’ve used this electric sharpener for 5 years. I didn’t even know all you have taught me. Interesting that on every one of my 14 kitchen knives, the sharpener has worked perfectly. The knives are and have stayed paper cutting monsters. So thanks for your entertaining content that does have any relation to my experience.
I used to use this Chef's Choice sharpener. It works well on chef's knives and long blades. It doesn't work well on small blades, paring, fillet or boning knives. You can't sharpen close enough to the hilt and you must be very careful with the flexible fillet or boning blades. You've convinced me to give the diamond stone and strop and try.
The sponsor segment cracked me up. I was seriously waiting for you to plug a patreon membership, or re-launch your custom knife site (take my money).
All you want is a like and subscribe (done).
Can you review some other electric sharpeners? Like the worksharp Ken onion? Had that one on my radar for months while I keep practicing by hand.
I have more coming 👍
I got a Chefs Choice Trizor. After initial sharpening, I use it once a week and with a single pass in 2 stages I get a very sharp knife. Very happy with it. I'm way too lazy to use a stone but this only takes me literally 10 seconds
This is by far the best knife/sharpening content on TH-cam.
Hi outdoors55, thanks for the good videos. I had a chef's choice cc120 for two years. The knives became sharp but not razor sharp. I bought a work sharp Ken onion and I was really amazed about the sharpness.
This machine is so much better than the cc120. The only thing I don't like is that the belts are not so long lasting as they say. And sharpening is a bit dusty. So if you have a lung disease, use it outdoors.
What's the rotation of the sharpener? It's my that working a blade towards the edge create a more profound burr, and working a blade away from the edge reduces the burr. I could be totally off-base.
VERY well made video. Most would have sharpened three knives and done.
Love your going into details!
Your videos are gold. You have the best channel on sharpening. Period.
You're the Linus of knife sharpening 👍
He kind of looks like him too. Like an older version. Heh
This is what product testing should be like. Thank you!
Long term: I've been using an Edge Select 120 (identical older model with diamond wheels) for 15+ years on stainless and carbon steel kitchen knives and it's still working ok. It's obviously not perfect but is more than good enough for my use.
Sadly the middle diamond wheel and right side strop wheel are showing signs of wear and from what I can see they do not simply sell replacement wheels (which is a shame as the unit still works perfectly).
Howdy from Sacramento! Your vids are great. A la project farm - they are to the point and honest. Now I gotta get some stones and try some sharpening!
It was painful to see that mangled Spyderco! Still, thanks for taking one for the team!
Great video as usual. Keep em coming! ❤
I’d be interested to see you review the worksharp electric knife sharpener. I’ve had awesome luck with it and while it won’t be quite as good as stones, the edges hold up well and are plenty sharp for my purposes
Perhaps wiping down the knife before going on to # 3 stropping might keep that wheel cleaner. I had mine a few years before I found the magnetic catch bar on the bottom. Now I clean it regularly. Good video, thanks.
I have used the Chef's Choice XV for years. For Western style chef's knives WITHOUT a bolster, they are amazing. For pocket knives, chef's knives with a bolster, or super steels (e.g. the Magnacut on my Meglios) they are not good.
They are PERFECT for the ATK crowd with their Victorinox 8"ers.
Can you test out the Sharpens Best sharpener? I would really like to know how well it works and holds an edge, as opposed to a regular sharpener.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE TEST AND RESULTS :)
THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)
Awesome stuff as always. Thanks for the hard work. Can you review Work Sharp products like the Ken Onion, Precision Adjust, and the rolling knife sharpener? Or just any rolling knife sharpener?
The best sharpening expert online been following for 4 years now and Wish see more content I even watched same video's like 20 times that's how quality and informative it is to learn sharpening methods keep more content coming I am thirsty for more good content ❤
Wow, thanks!
Great content as per usual…I like hand sharpening way too much to ever purchase anything else, but did enjoy the video. Photography is excellent and as they say” a picture says a thousand words “ . Cheers from Canada 🍁 MikeR.
I'm looking for the diamond stone you're showing to remove the burr at 7:40, but the link in the description goes to a Kalolary Whetstone Knife Sharpening Stone 1000/4000 Grits instead.
I'm no sharpening pro so I can be wrong but from watching your videos I think I understand that these are two very different stones used for different reasons, right? Your link goes to the same whetstone in other videos too so I'm confused as to why and where I can find the Diamond stone you're showing in the videos?
I love learning about this stuff.
Great channel! Informative and excellent contends.
I have the trizor xv and I can't seem to get my knives sharp. I get it to a point where I get a burr every te I go through stage 2 (the burr just flips sides) but when I hit stage 3 it feels like the burr goes away but doesn't feel very sharp anymore. It'll do but the knife gets dull quickly.
Might be garbage knives but I do believe my third stage is hosed even with the cleaning.
Can you do a review of tumbler knife sharpener?
I'm not sure what I enjoy more,, the sharpening content or the sense of humor.😂 👍👍🔪
Excellent video I was looking to buy this but now I know ill def need to pair it with a strop and stone!
I would love to see a up close review of the Warthog V-Sharp Classic II Professional Diamond Knife Sharpener.
As I think it would be better than the pull sharpeners, but I'm not sure how far away it would be from a single grit stone.
I used to be a bit of a knife-sharpness fetish myself although I never resorted to macro lenses or microscopes. I found over the years that a clean pair of crock sticks would make most of my knives sharp enough to shave with. But, with a kitchen and closet full of knives I needed some way for my wife to sharpen them and she did not like the crock sticks.
So, several days ago I bought a Chef's Choice electric sharpener similar to but not exactly like the one you tested. I think mine is the 15xv.
I'd say I've sharpened approximately 20 knives of widely varying shape and quality. All are quite sharp now including one knife I've had for decades that I'd never put a good edge on no matter how I tried. Most of them are not as sharp as if I had meticulously sharpened them by hand but several of them are. A couple of these were among the last ones sharpened.
So after 20 knives, maybe more, (many of which were quite dull back-of-the-drawer knives) I have not experienced the problem you did.
How did I test my knives? Feeling for a bur with my thumb before honing (step 3) and then actual food prep. No microscopes. No slicing paper. Just real prep of cooked and raw meat and various types of vegetables. Pleasantly surprised and my wife can work the machine as well as I can.
I have not tested the machine on my hunting, skinning and butchering knives yet. Some of these are high quality some are junk. So we'll see.
How long before I encounter the same problem you did? I don't know but after 20 knives no evidence of it yet.
I'd like to see the Lansky Precision Guide systems along with the Wicked Edge GO system (specifically the GO just because it's the more "affordable" of their lineup).
I've personally been using the Lansky Standard Diamond 3 stone system and got the fine ceramic as well as leather strop add-ons. There's a little bit of set up each time, but it takes the guess work out holding an angle.
I have two of these sharpeners, a 15 and a 20 degree, both work just fine for me. I think it's because I just use them for about 5 nice German and Japan made kitchen knives, great steel, the come out very sharp in a few seconds. Your test is on metal I personally would never run through a Chef's Choice machine. S110V is about as difficult to sharpen as they come and cheap crappy knives I got rid of decades ago, both of those are not really what that system is for, unless you are out to prove it can't do what wet stones and tons of experience can do. I have s110v, Maximent and Rex 121 sitting here and I would never think about treating them like a kitchen knife because they are so different in shape and metal structure. Use tools for what the are intended and life gets way easier to live. Cheers.
You need the Precision Edge model by Chefs Choice also sold under Wusthof. Nothing is going to beat manual sharpening, but most consumers don’t have time or just don’t want to.
What is the purpose of honeycomb pattern on the diamond stone at 7:39 ?
Nothing beats a good old sharpening stone
I’d love to see some of these macro-shot evaluations on the work sharp KO belt driven sharpener. I used that product before learning to sharpen by hand with whet stones and diamond plates.
I'm curious:
You never mentioned emptying the waste material tray underneath.
Was it too full and loading up the wheels ?
I like my Chefs Choice unit. 😊
Mine has a magnetic bar to catch shavings that pops out the bottom.
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Again, nice vid Alex!
It seems that you infected not just me, but my neighbour also.
I have the kuromaku set (1000,2000,5000), and atoma diamond plate 400 will arrive soon, hopefully...
After that i just have to replace the green gunk with some quality stropping material (3 and 1 micron), and i'm done...
Thx!
fabulous video, very informative
Always wondered if it mattered which way you used a honing rod on a knife to maintain it. Wonder if your macro lenses could pick up any differences
I've been subscribed for a while and I hit the like button on your videos before I even start watching it
Thank you I appreciate it!
I think I will try this: knife sharpener you 'pass through" to get the initial bevel then use a stone (I just bought one) to get the burrs out, and further my stone doesn't use water but I'll keep in mind you have to clean it once in a while to get rid of the clogging materials.
Great stuff brother. I’m definitely enjoying getting into sharpening 👍
Thank your for another great video, I personally would like to know what your thoughts are on the Work Sharp Professional Precision Adjust knife sharpener.
Hey that’s the video I asked for!
i would like to see you test out the worksharp precision adjust sharpener, it looks like just a cheaper version of the edge pro
When I was a kid in the 70s we had an appliance which had an electric can opener on one side, and knife sharpener on the other. Sears made it I think.
Love these videos. Sure, one could argue that you're just repeating what every knife enthusiast (be it amateur or professional) already knows. But there's a difference between "knives just don't feel as sharp" or second-hand "everyone who knew about knives when I got started told me they're junk, so I'll parrot that", and what you're doing here with the actual results of repeated testing (as opposed to a single sharpening session) and the close-ups of the edge.
I only feel sorry for the knives that had to suffer as a result. But I understand that you can't make these videos and only use cheap Ikea knives, as that would not be representative of the kind of stuff we all carry. So thank you for sacrificing the longevity of your knives for our education.
The macro photography is fantastic and really illustrates the issues you ran into with burr reduction. Suggestion: Work Sharp Culinary E5
It will not say in the manual but hold down the button until it starts to make it run without a timer.
You are the man!
Appreciate your video's, Thank you.
Thanks for the amazing content.
The epic journey that Manix 2 S110V has had should be made into a movie.
I bought one of those some decade or so ago. I never got an edge off of it that didn't require that I use a diamond hone to finish it off.
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Hello Outdoor and guys, I want to buy sharpening stones but I don't know which ones. Could you give me an advice? Which are best between shapton kuromaku, shapton glass or DMT dia sharp or any other brand? I want the knifes to be very sharp and have it fast. xD Thank you for all your recommendations.
I really like this style of video and I would love to hear your opinion on the Sharpens Best sharpeners and maybe their videos. Because they seem pretty weird but interesting at the same time
Would love you to make a video on the worksharp
I use the sharpener and find it much easier to use than using a stone. That is the big advantage for me. You can get started straight away instead of spending a long time practicing manual sharpening on cheap knives.
would a honing rod work the burr off?
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing 👍
Another great video
Really enjoying your content! Have you done a review of the Horl 2? I'm sure it'll probably have most knife aficionados turning their noses up but it seems like a good option for someone who wants a a repeatably sharp knife without a learning curve.
Tbh I've already bought one but I'd like to know the opinion of someone who actually knows what they're talking about!
This is the much cheaper alternative to the Trizor? I wonder if the Trizor is higher quality components.
That model can be set to 15 or 20 degrees. What were you using?
Another great video!
I have one like this and I've always wanted to know what the scratch pattern looks like. I've never had any problems with it removing the burr, but I have suspected that the grit is not terribly fine. To what extent would stopping it with some finer abrasives bring it to a higher level of sharpness?
It would help remove the burr that formed. However since the burr is so large you would probably need to take it to the stone first. A strop wont help much for a burr like this.
@@OUTDOORS55I mean in my case where the machine removes the burr just fine
so i have to ask about the stropping discs
did you wipe the knife clean in between each disc? I'm not a fan of these types of "sharpeners", but i have to say that not wiping your blade off in between the different steps is a mistake
Do you have any tips on how to get the blade even again?
wish you used the 15 Trizor XV
Thanks for the video. I purchased the electric sharpener prior to seeing your excellent video. Can you link the sharpening stone and strop used in the video?
Any Amazon links for that $20 stone for Europe/Germany?
You should do a test with a work sharp precision adjust knife sharpener
great video
How many times have you sharpened that manix2?!?!? Wow
another W for the good ol whet stone
I just picked up the Presto 3 stage sharpener. It looks to be a higher quality then the Chefs Choice
2:18 - harder steels will never sharpen well on perpendicular powered wheels, unless they're fluid cooled (water/oil). They're okay to profile... but even at that, they still put too much heat in the edge.
These cheap powered sharpeners are great for cheap knives... but not for hard steel.
I have one like this, great for heavy profiling
Just found your channel and I’m loving it keep up the good work mate, also would you be able to do a full diamond stone sharpening/ maintenance video? Going from beginner steps for sharpening on the diamond stone to more advanced things related to it and general maintenance?
When it comes to ChefsChoice, people suggest to get the 15XV as it's cheaper and makes a hybrid edge that supposedly performs better than the 1520. Perhaps you can test this one day to the 1520?
From what i can see theres no difference between the 1520 and the 15xv other than the model number. The angles are the same and both advertise the same "triple bevel" design.
Hey Alex, please review Rolling Stones next!
Would like to see your review of the worksharp Ken onion edition