You will find that leaving all the gravel in the surface dirt layer slows erosion greatly. You can still get it bmx smooth too. Our most gravel laden features require the least amount of maintenance. We don’t use soil tac, elmers, etc., but it would be helpful in some areas.
You’re videos are 90% there, try changing up the thumbnails on all your old videos. Its a great way to learn what does and doesn’t work on yt. it would also really help to tighten up the edit, cutting out any opportunity for people to click off. Hillier smith has some great videos about reworking edits. Also including outtakes or mistakes is a great way to connect with the audience. You’re channel is so close to blowing up, just needs that final 10% to take off
Like anything you put together is a stunning example. All you're known for is flowing out and dumbing down a core trail on Eagle. Standard of work being done is shite. Hope you're building the berms good because the uphill ebike braaping is gonna ensure they require constant maintenance.
Next step is to make slurry. Its what all the bmx tracks use in Florida since it rains every day In the summer. After you have the trail glued like you did so it’s solid and there’s no dust, You go back and mix 0.5 gallons of glue, 3 gallons of water, then you add dirt in the bucket as well. Use a drill with a paddle mixer to stir it up and you can spread it across the trail like concrete with a squeegee. A yogurt or milkshake consistency is best and spreads further.
if you set that sifter up at a 45 degree angle with some legs, you can instead of shaking it to sift, just throw more dirt at it....usually that takes much less energy...that's how a "grizzly sifter" works
bro this video is so great! Ive been building trails in my backyard for quite some time now. Its pretty epic to watch videos like this, it gives me so much inspiration
Diluted Pva glue would be similar to earthworks construction soil additives like SOILTAC that are sprayed on to stabilize poor dirt. They spray it on and shape it. However as it a glue you are unlikely to be able to reuse other than as fill if you want to rip it down later (as it is glued together) You could spray your whole trail to “water proof” it a bit…
On the spray after shape you will have a 2mm (1/16in) layer that may peel off your running line the. Erosion will then work as normal. Our local jump were shaped well then sprayed by contractor. The scooter kids cut up the roll ins and within 18mths eroded away. They came in again and were spraying the pile with stabilizer and then place 1-2” of material and albeit a couple spots it looks like new (2yrs later).. try a section of spray on after and a section of the topping layer and see how they last. (Keep in mind if you want to change the deeper option may result in unuseable material other than fill). Other thing you can do in sandy or poor soils is a 5-7% cement stabilized sand.. so mix 1 tub of cement to 19 tubs of sand/ Clay/ dirt. Mix well then. Place with how you want it. If you can have it damp like breadcrumbs when placing it will pack in great. Once placed lightly sprinkle with water and pack more aim for a trowel like finish. Brush with a broom if you want. This will last incredibly well. You can go up to 20% but that is essentially a mortar.and will look like cement. 5% looks like dirt still. Try different ratios 1/19 (5%) 2/18 (10%) 3/17 (15%) etc… to see what works best and looks natural. Bentonite is good additive (sprinkle like fertilizer) but watch as too much will become custard in wet.
@@75keg75 thanks for this info. building a new line a need it to last! In the first paragraph you're talking about adding 2" of material. Is that 'material' a mix of glue/dirt/water?
I also don’t wonder if you can put that glue mixture in with your fines that you slap on top. It might get the glue a little deeper. Although I’ve seen that done at bike parks, and when it does go, it takes out chunks! But I’ll keep an eye, peeled, because I am going to subscribe and follow your work. So keep up the good work!
We've experimented with dirtcrete and it's more solid and better than you'd think. Pretty firm, but softer than concrete, feels like drywall plaster. Soiltac just made a crust that didn't hold up to public use.
Mix first like you said and deep. I tested this idea once by mixing only Portland Cement with water and then soaking an area of loose dirt and then smoothing it (where rain was splashing off my house) and it became water proof and splash proof BUT it crumbled the first time someone stepped on it. It didn’t sink in far enough. My question is how deep? I’m about to make a backyard pump track and I don’t have very much budget. I am wondering if I can get away with 4” of free local gravel and then dry mix in 1 part Portland cement and 2 parts sand per an estimated 4 parts local gravel. And then add water in a “dry pour” method. On an even cheaper line of thought, if you mixed dry Portland cement evenly and deep would the soil become more clay like? And could you just wait for rain to naturally soak it. (Or would only the top get wet and turn into a shell and prevent further soaking until it crumbles. This idea is wondering if it was so thin it was mostly dirt and still could soak just stickier? (I’m sure some areas would be poorly mixed and make clumps or flakes)
I mixed cement into the dirt jumps and in about a year it turned into dust powder after the dirt broke up riding a motorcycle on it, I had to take bags of it out of the yard, like 100 bags it was awful.
Great video awesome tip! Someone else had asked and I didn’t see a reply but what brand of shovel do you use if you know. Obviously a squared nose but different brands have different quality
Your trails look really amazing and the effort you put in is just great! However, us riding MTBs, which are designed and meant to be ridden on harsh terrain.. just wandering, what is the point of so smooth trails, in this case jumps? Does it make any real difference between how it was before you had that nice, fine soil finish, even adding glue.. Again, not degrading any of your work, it is really awesome, just thinking.. what is the point of so much effort to have it like an airstrip when our bikes can handle a lot more.
While an interesting idea, your glue technique is not necessarily environmentally safe. The primary ingredient in Elmer's glue is Polyvinyl Acetate (PVA), at ~60%. PVA is a petroleum-based synthetic polymer used in many adhesives. While it can be fully biodegraded, it requires a very specific combination of microbes and enzymes, along with a certain period of time. So far, these conditions have only been observed in wastewater treatment facilities. Its behavior in the natural environment is a point of ongoing research, however PVA is a plastic, and while it may break down into smaller "pieces", it will very likely end up leaching into the groundwater due to its water solubility. I urge you to look further into to the ongoing research, fully understand what these chemicals are, and know their effects before pouring gallons of glue into your backyard soil.
Do not do this! The plastic glue is synthetic and so will stay in the ecology. Always build with what’s already in the spot. If anything try making tree sap, resin glue. Much more localised and surely less impact than adding plastic to your favourite trail spot- the animals will thank you. Someone reply and correct me if you got more knowledge. Keep on digging @Trail Reviews
Update that the principal component of wood glue is polyvinyl acetate, which is also been found to be safe enough to be approved for chewing gum. Perhaps something else in it is the concern?
If you have any old river beds around you will find natural clay if you dig for it it's better than spending money on glue you need to find soil with clay you can also youse liquid floor wax the best you can do is natural clay it's cheaper to work with floor wax in old house carpeting works on the banks after you pack them well wax makes carpet like fiberglass kinda liquid floor wax can be gotten in 60gallon drums it's spendy look at custodial supply houses to get that in drums it can be watered down to stretch it out find some old carpet like office carpet or household carpet For the banks after you pack them good carpet with socking liquid floor wax is good when the wax drys it will crust up the banks give it a try liquid floor wax is your best bet not glue look for old carpet being thrown out on trash day it's free for the taking get liquid floor wax in place of glue that will hold up better than glue carpeting and liquid floor wax is like cheep fiberglass the rain won't break it down like glue Mess around with this idea
Hello man i want to make a trail but im not sure how to get permission from the council (uk) its a public forest walkway that if you take a narrowpath leads to remenats of an old path that is not used it would realy make great trail but im not sure how to go about it - thanks
So let me get this right. He used Elmer’s glue mixed with water over soil tech? The actual proper dirt glue. I mean if it works it works. But I wouldn’t call it a secret or anything. Might be a life hack.
Poluting the environment with Elmers glue? Am I the only one here having concerns here?. Wikipedia states that Elmers is a PVA-based synthetic glue. Some (very quick) research finds that it might be ok for the environment, but I am not quite convinced yet. Pease dear mr. Trial Reviews check if Elmers is OK for the environment. Soil tec states it non toxic and biodegradable, I hope that is correct. Btw, interesting video, thanks.
mate, these videos are so underrated. thanks for the quality vids
I appreciate that!
@@trailreviews3628 what kind of dirt you use. i construction dirt any good?
You will find that leaving all the gravel in the surface dirt layer slows erosion greatly. You can still get it bmx smooth too. Our most gravel laden features require the least amount of maintenance. We don’t use soil tac, elmers, etc., but it would be helpful in some areas.
You’re videos are 90% there, try changing up the thumbnails on all your old videos. Its a great way to learn what does and doesn’t work on yt. it would also really help to tighten up the edit, cutting out any opportunity for people to click off. Hillier smith has some great videos about reworking edits. Also including outtakes or mistakes is a great way to connect with the audience. You’re channel is so close to blowing up, just needs that final 10% to take off
Like anything you put together is a stunning example. All you're known for is flowing out and dumbing down a core trail on Eagle. Standard of work being done is shite. Hope you're building the berms good because the uphill ebike braaping is gonna ensure they require constant maintenance.
Next step is to make slurry. Its what all the bmx tracks use in Florida since it rains every day In the summer.
After you have the trail glued like you did so it’s solid and there’s no dust, You go back and mix 0.5 gallons of glue, 3 gallons of water, then you add dirt in the bucket as well. Use a drill with a paddle mixer to stir it up and you can spread it across the trail like concrete with a squeegee. A yogurt or milkshake consistency is best and spreads further.
whats the advantage of this versus just the .1 ratio of glue/water?
Bro's the example to the word: trust the grind
Those trails look soo good
I really love the way all your bros were out there helping you. Oh, wait... Seriously though, great video.
I can't wait until the next video!!!
if you set that sifter up at a 45 degree angle with some legs, you can instead of shaking it to sift, just throw more dirt at it....usually that takes much less energy...that's how a "grizzly sifter" works
Love the videos, you should do one where you ride every trail you have built!
bro this video is so great! Ive been building trails in my backyard for quite some time now. Its pretty epic to watch videos like this, it gives me so much inspiration
love the methods I use a higher ratio for glue and sets better
great vid man, super high quality
Very impressive!
Thank you!
thats alot of special sauce
man you deserve so many more subs
Great video, keep it up. You should really have more subscribers. :)
I really don't get that either
Diluted Pva glue would be similar to earthworks construction soil additives like SOILTAC that are sprayed on to stabilize poor dirt. They spray it on and shape it.
However as it a glue you are unlikely to be able to reuse other than as fill if you want to rip it down later (as it is glued together)
You could spray your whole trail to “water proof” it a bit…
On the spray after shape you will have a 2mm (1/16in) layer that may peel off your running line the. Erosion will then work as normal. Our local jump were shaped well then sprayed by contractor. The scooter kids cut up the roll ins and within 18mths eroded away. They came in again and were spraying the pile with stabilizer and then place 1-2” of material and albeit a couple spots it looks like new (2yrs later).. try a section of spray on after and a section of the topping layer and see how they last. (Keep in mind if you want to change the deeper option may result in unuseable material other than fill).
Other thing you can do in sandy or poor soils is a 5-7% cement stabilized sand.. so mix 1 tub of cement to 19 tubs of sand/ Clay/ dirt. Mix well then. Place with how you want it. If you can have it damp like breadcrumbs when placing it will pack in great. Once placed lightly sprinkle with water and pack more aim for a trowel like finish. Brush with a broom if you want.
This will last incredibly well.
You can go up to 20% but that is essentially a mortar.and will look like cement. 5% looks like dirt still.
Try different ratios 1/19 (5%) 2/18 (10%) 3/17 (15%) etc… to see what works best and looks natural.
Bentonite is good additive (sprinkle like fertilizer) but watch as too much will become custard in wet.
@@75keg75 thanks for this info. building a new line a need it to last! In the first paragraph you're talking about adding 2" of material. Is that 'material' a mix of glue/dirt/water?
So awesome. Would love to come over from Spokane and try some of your trails sometime
Nice video dude thanks for the tutorial on the glue stuff!
No problem 👍 Glad you liked it!
Nice video
Calcium chloride and water works great to have a more concrete surface
Gonna try it!
Looks great ! :)
I also don’t wonder if you can put that glue mixture in with your fines that you slap on top. It might get the glue a little deeper. Although I’ve seen that done at bike parks, and when it does go, it takes out chunks! But I’ll keep an eye, peeled, because I am going to subscribe and follow your work. So keep up the good work!
brand new wheelbarrow? lol
Y'all it ain't gonna hurt the environment more than me making a cement jump
I do concrete work and I’ve always wondered how mixing Portland cement into dirt you sifted would work. Water it and it’s basically concrete
We've experimented with dirtcrete and it's more solid and better than you'd think. Pretty firm, but softer than concrete, feels like drywall plaster. Soiltac just made a crust that didn't hold up to public use.
Mix first like you said and deep. I tested this idea once by mixing only Portland Cement with water and then soaking an area of loose dirt and then smoothing it (where rain was splashing off my house) and it became water proof and splash proof BUT it crumbled the first time someone stepped on it. It didn’t sink in far enough. My question is how deep? I’m about to make a backyard pump track and I don’t have very much budget. I am wondering if I can get away with 4” of free local gravel and then dry mix in 1 part Portland cement and 2 parts sand per an estimated 4 parts local gravel. And then add water in a “dry pour” method.
On an even cheaper line of thought, if you mixed dry Portland cement evenly and deep would the soil become more clay like? And could you just wait for rain to naturally soak it. (Or would only the top get wet and turn into a shell and prevent further soaking until it crumbles. This idea is wondering if it was so thin it was mostly dirt and still could soak just stickier? (I’m sure some areas would be poorly mixed and make clumps or flakes)
I mixed cement into the dirt jumps and in about a year it turned into dust powder after the dirt broke up riding a motorcycle on it, I had to take bags of it out of the yard, like 100 bags it was awful.
Great video awesome tip! Someone else had asked and I didn’t see a reply but what brand of shovel do you use if you know. Obviously a squared nose but different brands have different quality
2x
Where i live the dirt is more wet do i need to wait so its more dry cause it wont pack and get hard
Your trails look really amazing and the effort you put in is just great! However, us riding MTBs, which are designed and meant to be ridden on harsh terrain.. just wandering, what is the point of so smooth trails, in this case jumps? Does it make any real difference between how it was before you had that nice, fine soil finish, even adding glue.. Again, not degrading any of your work, it is really awesome, just thinking.. what is the point of so much effort to have it like an airstrip when our bikes can handle a lot more.
What shovel do you use?
Great vid mate. The glue tip is gold and works so well 👌
Is alluvial soil good to build?😅
does glu poison the soil?😨😨
While an interesting idea, your glue technique is not necessarily environmentally safe. The primary ingredient in Elmer's glue is Polyvinyl Acetate (PVA), at ~60%. PVA is a petroleum-based synthetic polymer used in many adhesives. While it can be fully biodegraded, it requires a very specific combination of microbes and enzymes, along with a certain period of time. So far, these conditions have only been observed in wastewater treatment facilities. Its behavior in the natural environment is a point of ongoing research, however PVA is a plastic, and while it may break down into smaller "pieces", it will very likely end up leaching into the groundwater due to its water solubility. I urge you to look further into to the ongoing research, fully understand what these chemicals are, and know their effects before pouring gallons of glue into your backyard soil.
Do not do this! The plastic glue is synthetic and so will stay in the ecology. Always build with what’s already in the spot. If anything try making tree sap, resin glue. Much more localised and surely less impact than adding plastic to your favourite trail spot- the animals will thank you. Someone reply and correct me if you got more knowledge. Keep on digging @Trail Reviews
I second this.
Other than the principal of it all, is there a specific compound in glue that's been shown to harm ecosystems when used in these amounts?
Update that the principal component of wood glue is polyvinyl acetate, which is also been found to be safe enough to be approved for chewing gum. Perhaps something else in it is the concern?
If you have any old river beds around you will find natural clay if you dig for it it's better than spending money on glue you need to find soil with clay you can also youse liquid floor wax the best you can do is natural clay it's cheaper to work with floor wax in old house carpeting works on the banks after you pack them well wax makes carpet like fiberglass kinda liquid floor wax can be gotten in 60gallon drums it's spendy look at custodial supply houses to get that in drums it can be watered down to stretch it out find some old carpet like office carpet or household carpet For the banks after you pack them good carpet with socking liquid floor wax is good when the wax drys it will crust up the banks give it a try liquid floor wax is your best bet not glue look for old carpet being thrown out on trash day it's free for the taking get liquid floor wax in place of glue that will hold up better than glue carpeting and liquid floor wax is like cheep fiberglass the rain won't break it down like glue Mess around with this idea
Hello man i want to make a trail but im not sure how to get permission from the council (uk) its a public forest walkway that if you take a narrowpath leads to remenats of an old path that is not used it would realy make great trail but im not sure how to go about it - thanks
Just build if the council destroys it move on
Dont ask they will say no,
Hi
So let me get this right. He used Elmer’s glue mixed with water over soil tech? The actual proper dirt glue. I mean if it works it works. But I wouldn’t call it a secret or anything. Might be a life hack.
Buying a 13$ gallon of Elmer’s glue to do a jump here and there is a lot more affordable then buying a 50 gallon barrel of Soil tac for 1,500$
where deer
So is it Elmer’s glue - like for school stuff?
Poluting the environment with Elmers glue? Am I the only one here having concerns here?. Wikipedia states that Elmers is a PVA-based synthetic glue. Some (very quick) research finds that it might be ok for the environment, but I am not quite convinced yet. Pease dear mr. Trial Reviews check if Elmers is OK for the environment. Soil tec states it non toxic and biodegradable, I hope that is correct. Btw, interesting video, thanks.
Stfu who cares
Bro shut up 😂😂😂😂
🤎
… Gwar gum.
Terrible for the enviroment