With Final Fantasy 8 Remastered releasing not too long ago, it felt like the perfect time to dive back into the lore of Final Fantasy 8 as we've only done Squall so far from that game! Hopefully you guys enjoy learning more about her character!
Tbh, ANY character from FF VIII and I am here as soon as I can watch the video lol But I would love to see a dive into Laguna. :) Or Siefer!! That would be so great!!!
Could you do a ff9 Eiko origins. I read the wiki, played the game and still I don't get her deal. Next to Quina she's the only party member from 9 I don't understand clearly.
I’m always going to be connected to Rinoa. My dad was such a big fan of ffviii when it first came out, and he loved the character of Rinoa, so he named me after her. I thought my name was just weird before, but after I played the game I realized how lucky I was to be named after her 😊
Aww that's so wonderful! I love it when people get named after good Final Fantasy characters. Rinoa was my favorite FF8 character too, along side Squall and Ultimecia.
Laguna was one of the main characters tho. The core story isn't stopping the sorceresses, that's just busy work thrown in because final fantasy. The story of FFVIII is a tale of 2 lovers (Laguna and Julia) being separated by the world's events, eventually marrying other people and having children, and then those children finding each other and living out the love their parents couldn't.
I didn't realize it till later on but I loved how Squall and Riona's love is actually the fulfillment of both their parents' love that never had the chance to blossom. Laguna and Julia had a moment where if things had played out differently, they could have been something beautiful, but it never came to be. However, they found love with others and both produced a child with them, and those children would go on to form a relationship that in a way would in a way complete what Laguna and Julia never could have.
While everyone mostly started off with FFVII, I started with FFVIII and so this is my favorite and still is. It's beautiful and I still wish for the remake even though I found out that not many liked it because it's completely off the usual story FF series goes for. This is special for me. Thanks for introducing Rinoa to everyone. I think this video is well done and was narrated well. :)
I couldn't agree more. 8 was also my first FF as well. I hate that it gets treated like the ugly step child when it was just as much of a hit as 7 and 9. I csnt believe that ff7bhas gotten like 10 extra installments in its story when they could easily do either a prequel game or a movie about the sorceress wars
Rinoa is so underrated and so under appareciated. It really makes me sad that people just don't like her. When she went through so much, to get to the mature state that she is now. The pain, the loss, the isolation, all these bad emotions and feelings, yet she still managed to over come them to be a better person. She is my favorite FF character and possibly in general. She is the strongest character I know. Love her so much! Thank you for doing this in her honor! ♥♥
I understand what you mean about Rinoa. I like her as a character, she grew a lot from how she acted near the end of disc 1. I have recently gotten newfound respect for her, she's getting close to the best female characters, in my opinion
I think VIII probably has my favorite narrative out of the series, or at least character development. The growth that Squall and Rinoa go through is really charming, and Eyes On Me might be my favorite love song ever.
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I know you said rinoa was squall's polar opposite but I feel more like rinoa and squall had that similar feel of isolation but they both had different outcomes like tidus and yuna basically living in the shadows of their fathers if that makes sense
I think they definitely had SOME polar opposite traits. He was obviously aloof and uptight, while she was outgoing and carefree. But I agree with where you're coming from. In the important ways, they were very much alike
@James Gravil i wouldn't call Zell an extrovert. His hyperactive nature is just a facade. He's not a conversation starter and he's always repressing his impressions towards other people and Squall is always there to 'listen' to him, venting out his thoughts. Selphie, on the other hand, is the quirky, spontaneous, conversation starter, better candidate for the opposite of overthinker, calculated, silent Squall. Rinoa just happened to be a better pair for Squall because she pushed him to his limits while Selphie was the one who adjusted for Squall's behavior. But yeah, in general, Seifer is his opposite.
They had similar struggles in various different lighting. Squall felt isolated and alone. Grown as an orphan and staunchly attached to Ellone; when she was forced to flee. Squall felt abandoned and isolated. Withdrawing his emotions and refusing to connect to others in the fear he'd be abandoned once more. Blaming himself that people didn't want him. He'd rather keep everyone away to save him the pain of implied complete rejection of himself. Rinoa felt isolated and alone due to the loss of her mother and rift between herself and her father. Her sheltered life gave way to a harsh reality that continued to pull various punches. Reminding her of how small she really was, how ignorant she was to others around her. And how her pampered life had hid away an aspect she desperately needed in her life. Rather than withdrawing from the world; Rinoa tries to find and create bonds that make her feel safe and wanted. But it wasn't until she met Squall's crew did she ever have a feeling of belonging and security in herself.
They are pure opposites one being a stoic on the level of Aurelius and the other being an eternal optimist often seeing the world the way they wish it to be and not as it is (ie. thinking you can just slip a bangle on the sorceress)
This is why I like her and Squall both and 8 is my favorite FF. Their character development and growth really strikes a cord with me each time I play through
Would love to see an origin story on Laguna, his story is a bit fragmented in the game and it would be great to have it all layed out. Especially since his character details offer unique insight in the game like Seifer copying his gunblade techniques from the sorceress movie, how he became a hero to the Shumi tribe, his relationship with Squall and Ellone, etc.
Fan theory: Am I the only one who thinks Caraway sent Laguna and co. to Esthar just to get rid of him to get to Julia!? Kiros even says that it was an order from the general! It can't be a coincidence that after Laguna was declared MIA/KIA that he inevitably swooped in and married her. Granted his jealousy and manipulation did give way to one of the best FF couples in the franchise I still find it to be very sad for both Laguna and Julia who had each naturally started to fall for each other without saying a word to the other. Caraway is a low key bad guy in this story. 'Nough said.
At that point, Caraway was still not a General, he was another soldier like Laguna but as a member of wealthy family he was station in Deling City. Laguna was order to be shipped to Esthar by another guy, the crazy fan of Julia.
Man the nostalgia hit me hard on this one, i didn't realize i'm already weeping halfway through your video, thank you for making this.. makes me want to download the hd remaster on the switch now 😂
I loved this video, it was really well documented and helped me understand the story more. I always had a major crush on rinoa when I was younger, still do. She's so beautiful. The space/Ragnarok scene always gives me feels. I'd love to see a video on Laguna. He's my favourite character in the game
I'm playing Final Fantasy VIII Remastered while watching this video! You do a amazing job on these Lore videos, Daryl! Rinoa is one of my favorite female Final Fantasy characters! It's great to see Riona in Dissidia NT and with the Remastered version of Final Fantasy VIII! I'm glad FFVIII is getting the attention that it deserves! Hopefully in the future this will lead to us getting a Final Fantasy VIII Remake! Great video as always you guys!
Crying, crying, and crying! I love Rinoa and Squall's love story. The scenes in space gets me every time. 😭🤧 Thank you so much for these wonderful videos!
Wow, your dedication to the authenticity of FF8's story through this Rinoa deep dive has honestly brought me to tears. A beautiful tale that will live on Thanks for the fantastic narration!! 🙏🏽 narra
I love this game so much, so I appreciate the work you've done in this video. Final Fantasy VIII had a lot of speculative hints hidden within its story, but I liked that. It left me guessing, and I could think outside of the box.
13:00 Irvine didn't "convince" Squall to rescue Rinoa, they just couldn't do anything to help her until the gates to the Presidential estate opened up. They also needed to go to where Rinoa was being attacked anyway. Not much convincing is gonna be needed if one of Squall's clients is getting killed right in front of him.
True, probably will never be surpassed in that regard. Watching Squall come out of his shell and find love against all odds shows there's someone for everyone. Love that the girl was the one who took the initiative as well. Something far too rare in society
FF9 love story is way better than this hell even ff10 love story is better squall and rinoas love story is so unbelievable and literally comes outta nowhere
i really love the fan theory about ultimecia is another rinoa from alternatives timeline where she want to change the fact that squall is killed by edea ice lance that day. it's improve the quality of the story dramatically. many prove supporting that theory too, like ultimecia castle is actually placed in the flower garden where she and squall promised to meet, her summon guardian force is Greiver, which is squall's ring. and in dissidia version when she about to fight squall she says "shall we dance?" implying her first memory of meeting squall. and lastly if you check ultimecia's weapon name is shooting stars, which the exact same name with rinoa's weapon.
Yeah, that was a brilliant theory. It's so weird that the creators apparently didn't mean it, yet there were so many coincidences. These were epic stories.
These origin stories are always so well put together and tell me so many things I missed. I've played a lot of these games multiple times, and for some of them I've delved deep into learning more about the stories etc. But you always manage to bring so much new info to me :)
Please do Kuja, he’s such an enigmatic villain and probably the only one amongst the series who ever truly regret his actions at the end of the game. Love his backstory too about the fear of death
Fantastic summary! FF8 is always a memorable FF for me, and though it's not without its flaws, it definitely helped shaped me at the time, especially with regard to its amazing musical numbers. I really like how you fleshed out Rinoa and Squall's relationship (of course!), but I've always wondered why people couldn't really believe their emotional connection for each other. But the way you presented it here is exactly how I understood their relationship developing (with Squall responding to Rinoa's love first). Just discovering your channel until recently, but very much appreciate your content. Keep up the good work!
Amazing coverage of the events. I would just maybe add one thing - Ragnarok wasn't a random spaceship. Ragnaroks (three of them if I remember) actually carried Adel's Tomb to the space, so it makes exact sense why it would be there. I don't remember though why did they lost contact with Eshtar.
Best girl, I love Rinoa. Every time I replay this game I learn something new about the characters, and this video taught me even more about my favorite ff female protagonist. What I love most about Squall and Rinoa is how much they really needed each other to grow as people. Other ff couples do this as well but I think FF8 does it best
@@Shiro92224they can't stand her because of they prefer Quistis rather place near Squall but.. I think she doesn't use Squall as rebound because of Seifer's refuse
Rinoa was always one of my overall favourite characters in the entire franchise. Her dynamic with Squall was really something else. I really liked the story of FF8, but the magic system really sacks the game's replayability.
Loved this video. I always felt sorry for Rinoa when the SeeDs kind of dismissed her as a 'poor little rich girl'. She has seen genuine tragedy and, whilst the fight for Timber might have begun as spiting her father, I do think she really cares for the town and the Forest Owls. Could you do Edea, next? Who she is and how she got her powers is sooo complicated! Oh, and Seifer. I always found him so much more interesting than Squall!
Oh I love it! Rinoa and Squall indeed made the story romantic here. Love it! Great video. Honorable mention to Laguna and Julia - they too also make a lovely couple.
I would love to see Sabin and Edgars story. As their story while short are rather intresting. Balancing duty and freedom. And how the empire ruin their childhood and even more so. Their ways to support the returners as they spied withon the empire.
One thing that changed over the years was her jet black eyes. This was removed after the original. Even in the remaster that's no longer a thing. I think that was a signature characteristic (like Tifa's red irises), and I don't know why it went away
Quistis is very genius and her blue magic is really helping me lots. Too bad she is too genius that she is not fit to be leader, guess i understand why she chose squall as leader
You can get Degenerator in less than an hour on FF8 and just wreck 90% of the enemies you encounter. That alone is a game breaker. And Quistis is just absolutely lovely on all fronts.
Enjoyed it? Heck, I loved this. She's one of my favorite FF female characters. I stopped what I was doing to watch this. Also, I'm happy you guys used that artwork from that artist in this. He/She's really good at what they do and I can't recommend enough that others go check out the rest of her works. :)
Love Rinoa as her own character and Squall is one of my favorite too, but together, they are the best :D Thanks for the wonderful origin story and a deep dive into it. Getting a like and sub
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Thanks So Much for this! This is my favorite FF game since it was my first one, but the time travel aspect and the love story made it even better for me. Even though I have beaten this 5 times it still takes me a while to grasp the story, still your never forget your first love and my game girl will always be Rinoa.
As many times as I played ff8 the time that rinoa and squall share in the cockpit of Ragnarok always gets to me the vulnerability she shows just always seems to hit home.
Good video, makes me appreciate Rinoa more because even though I enjoy her character I have mixed views on how they portrayed it. Mainly how many times I have to rescue her which became quite tiring, not from her fault but the writer's choices. Future videos would you consider doing an Aerith Gainsborough origins video in the lead up to FF7 remake?
kid kytes I like what you said about the writers’ choices. Some people don’t realise that and would be quick to dismiss an otherwise complex character. The writers in this instance had something good in their hands and instead went with something trite and repetitive within the same game. This is coming from someone who loves weak characters and those who show fragility, where being rescued does have justification. But being rescued 4 or so times where one instance happened because she was literally standing on a spot where the ground collapsed beneath her feet is lazy writing.
I finished this game multiple times as a teener, but man, i totally forgot about this story of Rinoa. I think i need to refresh my memory after more than 15 years. Wow. Thanks for this nice story. :)
After playing FF8 countless times, there's 2 things that I really dont understand: What are they talking about during the orphanage flower field event, and what actually happened in the ending, the whole time compression thing.
TheGreator the orphanage thing is about showing that all (but Rinoa) party members had a past. Those memories were forgotten due to using Gaurdian forces. Some party members feel it was a big price to pay, but squall says it’s worth it to win. Even if it means forgetting precious memories. The ending is a happy moment before Ultemecia is Born (Seed having to fight again and a grim future) Squall made a promise to always be at Rinoas side no matter if she becomes the enemy of the world. In the flashes by squall being lost in the void, there are scenes mixing Rinoas death or Rinoa showing some resemblance to Ultemecia. Squall can’t react because he loves/cares for Rinoa. Even when Squall meets up Edea to see the sorceress pass her power. Edea willingly repeats the cycle/loop. Squall gets lost for he knows even with killing Ultemecia in the future, she will still be born again. Rinoa brings back Squall, and I can only guess Squall and the party forgets the Sorcerers for they use Gaurdian Forces. Thus, Ultemecia is born later, and the loop continues. That’s what I interpreted from FF8
Commented 3 years late. FF8 is the best RPG gem of the PS1 generation, when you count magic, refining, cards, mini games, gf relationships, gf abilities, tank heal dps options in the junction menu plus att def, status att and def it was leagues and leagues ahead of any game of it's time. Still IMHO the best FF, it was the truest RPG.
Didn't care for Rinoa but I found her complexity intriguing. In Squall's shoes, I'd have gotten with any of the other girls. Your coverage made her much more sympathetic too. Good work!
This is a great video. Firstly I never understood the hate for FFVIII sure the drawing of magic is a drag and the levelling is whack but at least remastered added a high speed function. The storyline and characters make this one of my favourites and Squall and Rinoa are two of my favourites. The way she gradually breaks down his barriers is really moving. (By the way your Squall vid was equally awesome and very insightful) both these characters are incredibly complex which is precisely why they found love...I dont agree with those comments who said their love story was unbelievable and random. It makes perfect sense as an outgoing and bubbly character like Rinoa who is passionate and caring is the only kind who could break down Squall's resolve and careful walls he had built to protect himself. What a lovely pairing. I much prefer the Squall type characters to the loud, in your face personality of Tidus or Zell (much alike at the start of FFX) Another reason I love your videos is they teach me correct pronunciation of names and places. I always thought it was See-Dee and Dell-ing City. Obviously I cant reas. (I also always wondered why I had a weird crush on pixel squall....makes more sense now I know he was based on River Phoenix. One of my favourite actors). Thanks Darryl for another great video you explain things so well and your knowledge is second to none!
I love the videos that y’all do! Your research is second to none. I have loved ffviii for a long time and I didn’t know a lot of the stuff that you mentioned.
Feels like playing the game again just by watching (mostly listening to) the video. Thanks. She might initially come of as a bit of an airhead like Selphie, but she has massive character development over the game, more than Squall I'd say
Honestly, she was my LEAST favourite heroine before this. I always found her too cutesy and childish, and shallow. But now, after hearing your analysis of her, I feel she's so relatable and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and making me fall in love with FF8 all over again.
I have a theory that the Guardian Forces were actual people before they became the summons, i think this due to the ring Squall names matching the GF that Ultamecia uses at the games final battle sequnces.
I'm sorry. I cried. I cannot hold back my tears. At this rate, I'll never regret subscribing to this channel. Update: I finally finished FFVIII last September. It was one of the most unbelievable moment in my life I'll never forget it. Thanks to this video.
I really enjoyed the video and the idea that rinoa and squalls' romance is also a fitting end to laguna and Julia's as well. Almost like the romance was passed down from father to son and mother to daughter.
That's a little misleading. Squall, Zell, and Selphie would have absolutely charged into the station and tried to kidnap or kill Deiling. Squall's frustration is born out of the fact that he feels his skills and status as a SeeD are being woefully underutilized by an admittedly amateurish operation. The SeeDs did not talk Rinoa down from doing something stupid. In fact they received an order to apprehend Seifer that superseded the contract. The group would have definitely charged in though. But it's part of the narrative which actually cleverly examines and deconstructs the common youth media and especially Japanese trope of the super-powered war-veteran sixteen-year-old, and shows just how rough it is to take on saving the world as a responsibility.
Now that you are covering a Final Fantasy VIII character origin, how about Seifer Almasy? Maybe even making a video for some more characters from Final Fantasy XII like: Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca or Basch fon Ronsenburg
My first video game character crush when i was in highschool. The most attractive character in final fantasy for me. I liked her so much that I named my first born daughter after her
This was a wonderful Origins story... You've made sense out of this story by diving deep into its lore. You have a great sounding reading voice and should consider doing audible type book readings.
I was so addicted to her that I even made a picture frame of her and making her as a standard for the girl I wanted to be with forever and to say this was my first final fantasy game that started it all, now 15 years later and watching this video, all those emotions over the years just coming back in, thank you final fantasy union from the bottom of my heart
With Final Fantasy 8 Remastered releasing not too long ago, it felt like the perfect time to dive back into the lore of Final Fantasy 8 as we've only done Squall so far from that game! Hopefully you guys enjoy learning more about her character!
Tbh, ANY character from FF VIII and I am here as soon as I can watch the video lol But I would love to see a dive into Laguna. :) Or Siefer!! That would be so great!!!
I cant wait to get it 8 is one of those that I enjoy but d ok not know why and I hope they cant hint a little more of Laguna being his father
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Could you do a ff9 Eiko origins. I read the wiki, played the game and still I don't get her deal. Next to Quina she's the only party member from 9 I don't understand clearly.
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I’m always going to be connected to Rinoa. My dad was such a big fan of ffviii when it first came out, and he loved the character of Rinoa, so he named me after her. I thought my name was just weird before, but after I played the game I realized how lucky I was to be named after her 😊
I would be so jealous! rinoa is a wonderful name
That’s cute
Aww that's so wonderful! I love it when people get named after good Final Fantasy characters. Rinoa was my favorite FF8 character too, along side Squall and Ultimecia.
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Whoa! I named my baby girl Rinoa. she's 8 month now.:)
Rinoa and Squall represent love a generation too late. Laguna and Julia didn't get together, but Laguna's son, and Julia's daughter do ;)
Laguna was one of the main characters tho. The core story isn't stopping the sorceresses, that's just busy work thrown in because final fantasy. The story of FFVIII is a tale of 2 lovers (Laguna and Julia) being separated by the world's events, eventually marrying other people and having children, and then those children finding each other and living out the love their parents couldn't.
Poetic Justice?
That's what you call a twist of fate
HEEYYYYYY, SO WHAT HAPPEN TO RINOA AND SEIFER. I NEED CLARIFICATION. IF THEY DO *THAT* , CURSE THEIR CORP.
But Lagunas love w Julia is one of lust. While Laguna love w Raine was genuine and more deeper
I didn't realize it till later on but I loved how Squall and Riona's love is actually the fulfillment of both their parents' love that never had the chance to blossom. Laguna and Julia had a moment where if things had played out differently, they could have been something beautiful, but it never came to be. However, they found love with others and both produced a child with them, and those children would go on to form a relationship that in a way would in a way complete what Laguna and Julia never could have.
While everyone mostly started off with FFVII, I started with FFVIII and so this is my favorite and still is. It's beautiful and I still wish for the remake even though I found out that not many liked it because it's completely off the usual story FF series goes for. This is special for me. Thanks for introducing Rinoa to everyone. I think this video is well done and was narrated well. :)
Thank you for the kind words Mikaera :) ~Darryl
FFVIII was my first Final Fantasy as well. Playing it though is bittersweet for me. v_v
Right? To shake squarinix to their senses that ff8 deserves a remake.
I couldn't agree more. 8 was also my first FF as well. I hate that it gets treated like the ugly step child when it was just as much of a hit as 7 and 9.
I csnt believe that ff7bhas gotten like 10 extra installments in its story when they could easily do either a prequel game or a movie about the sorceress wars
@@BuzzlightyearinactionSaSenado it deserves a remake and spinoffs/prequels/sequels/side stories/anything you can come up with!
Rinoa is so underrated and so under appareciated. It really makes me sad that people just don't like her. When she went through so much, to get to the mature state that she is now. The pain, the loss, the isolation, all these bad emotions and feelings, yet she still managed to over come them to be a better person. She is my favorite FF character and possibly in general. She is the strongest character I know. Love her so much! Thank you for doing this in her honor! ♥♥
No i think selphie is way stronger then rinoa
I understand what you mean about Rinoa. I like her as a character, she grew a lot from how she acted near the end of disc 1. I have recently gotten newfound respect for her, she's getting close to the best female characters, in my opinion
Glad to see someone else loving her, she's my favorite FF female character, Celes is a close second
@@mikealan1984 true... Selphie had. Better characterization
Quit the crap with the "Yo u are Squall" and all that but Rinoa it's my type of woman in physical and in personality
I think VIII probably has my favorite narrative out of the series, or at least character development. The growth that Squall and Rinoa go through is really charming, and Eyes On Me might be my favorite love song ever.
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I know you said rinoa was squall's polar opposite but I feel more like rinoa and squall had that similar feel of isolation but they both had different outcomes like tidus and yuna basically living in the shadows of their fathers if that makes sense
The English localization ruined that they are clear opposites
I think they definitely had SOME polar opposite traits. He was obviously aloof and uptight, while she was outgoing and carefree. But I agree with where you're coming from. In the important ways, they were very much alike
@James Gravil i wouldn't call Zell an extrovert. His hyperactive nature is just a facade. He's not a conversation starter and he's always repressing his impressions towards other people and Squall is always there to 'listen' to him, venting out his thoughts. Selphie, on the other hand, is the quirky, spontaneous, conversation starter, better candidate for the opposite of overthinker, calculated, silent Squall. Rinoa just happened to be a better pair for Squall because she pushed him to his limits while Selphie was the one who adjusted for Squall's behavior. But yeah, in general, Seifer is his opposite.
They had similar struggles in various different lighting.
Squall felt isolated and alone. Grown as an orphan and staunchly attached to Ellone; when she was forced to flee. Squall felt abandoned and isolated. Withdrawing his emotions and refusing to connect to others in the fear he'd be abandoned once more. Blaming himself that people didn't want him. He'd rather keep everyone away to save him the pain of implied complete rejection of himself.
Rinoa felt isolated and alone due to the loss of her mother and rift between herself and her father. Her sheltered life gave way to a harsh reality that continued to pull various punches. Reminding her of how small she really was, how ignorant she was to others around her. And how her pampered life had hid away an aspect she desperately needed in her life. Rather than withdrawing from the world; Rinoa tries to find and create bonds that make her feel safe and wanted. But it wasn't until she met Squall's crew did she ever have a feeling of belonging and security in herself.
They are pure opposites one being a stoic on the level of Aurelius and the other being an eternal optimist often seeing the world the way they wish it to be and not as it is (ie. thinking you can just slip a bangle on the sorceress)
This is why I like her and Squall both and 8 is my favorite FF. Their character development and growth really strikes a cord with me each time I play through
Would love to see an origin story on Laguna, his story is a bit fragmented in the game and it would be great to have it all layed out. Especially since his character details offer unique insight in the game like Seifer copying his gunblade techniques from the sorceress movie, how he became a hero to the Shumi tribe, his relationship with Squall and Ellone, etc.
@Nikolai Rose Pretty much every character that isn't Squall or Rinoa will have a short video lol
Fan theory: Am I the only one who thinks Caraway sent Laguna and co. to Esthar just to get rid of him to get to Julia!? Kiros even says that it was an order from the general! It can't be a coincidence that after Laguna was declared MIA/KIA that he inevitably swooped in and married her. Granted his jealousy and manipulation did give way to one of the best FF couples in the franchise I still find it to be very sad for both Laguna and Julia who had each naturally started to fall for each other without saying a word to the other.
Caraway is a low key bad guy in this story. 'Nough said.
You know what they say, "A shoulder to cry on, becomes a....."
Never thought about that before but eye opening after reading it
At that point, Caraway was still not a General, he was another soldier like Laguna but as a member of wealthy family he was station in Deling City. Laguna was order to be shipped to Esthar by another guy, the crazy fan of Julia.
Man the nostalgia hit me hard on this one, i didn't realize i'm already weeping halfway through your video, thank you for making this.. makes me want to download the hd remaster on the switch now 😂
I loved this video, it was really well documented and helped me understand the story more. I always had a major crush on rinoa when I was younger, still do. She's so beautiful. The space/Ragnarok scene always gives me feels.
I'd love to see a video on Laguna. He's my favourite character in the game
it took me 15 years to put all this together and this video made it all finally make sense
I'm playing Final Fantasy VIII Remastered while watching this video!
You do a amazing job on these Lore videos, Daryl! Rinoa is one of my favorite female Final Fantasy characters!
It's great to see Riona in Dissidia NT and with the Remastered version of Final Fantasy VIII! I'm glad FFVIII is getting the attention that it deserves! Hopefully in the future this will lead to us getting a Final Fantasy VIII Remake! Great video as always you guys!
Crying, crying, and crying! I love Rinoa and Squall's love story. The scenes in space gets me every time. 😭🤧 Thank you so much for these wonderful videos!
Glad to see I'm not alone in this! 😂
Wow, your dedication to the authenticity of FF8's story through this Rinoa deep dive has honestly brought me to tears. A beautiful tale that will live on
Thanks for the fantastic narration!! 🙏🏽
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I love this game so much, so I appreciate the work you've done in this video.
Final Fantasy VIII had a lot of speculative hints hidden within its story, but I liked that. It left me guessing, and I could think outside of the box.
13:00 Irvine didn't "convince" Squall to rescue Rinoa, they just couldn't do anything to help her until the gates to the Presidential estate opened up.
They also needed to go to where Rinoa was being attacked anyway. Not much convincing is gonna be needed if one of Squall's clients is getting killed right in front of him.
the best romantic game I ever played
True, probably will never be surpassed in that regard. Watching Squall come out of his shell and find love against all odds shows there's someone for everyone. Love that the girl was the one who took the initiative as well. Something far too rare in society
@@phillystevesteak6982 sometimes I wish I could find somebody but I'm too old at this point in my life
I’d argue FFX had a better romance
@@rsamstein6093 FFX had a good romance as well
FF9 love story is way better than this hell even ff10 love story is better squall and rinoas love story is so unbelievable and literally comes outta nowhere
i really love the fan theory about ultimecia is another rinoa from alternatives timeline where she want to change the fact that squall is killed by edea ice lance that day. it's improve the quality of the story dramatically. many prove supporting that theory too, like ultimecia castle is actually placed in the flower garden where she and squall promised to meet, her summon guardian force is Greiver, which is squall's ring. and in dissidia version when she about to fight squall she says "shall we dance?" implying her first memory of meeting squall. and lastly if you check ultimecia's weapon name is shooting stars, which the exact same name with rinoa's weapon.
Yeah, that was a brilliant theory. It's so weird that the creators apparently didn't mean it, yet there were so many coincidences. These were epic stories.
These origin stories are always so well put together and tell me so many things I missed.
I've played a lot of these games multiple times, and for some of them I've delved deep into learning more about the stories etc.
But you always manage to bring so much new info to me :)
I've played this game one million times and you still managed to teach me something new about it. Excellent video.
Please do Kuja, he’s such an enigmatic villain and probably the only one amongst the series who ever truly regret his actions at the end of the game. Love his backstory too about the fear of death
Fantastic summary! FF8 is always a memorable FF for me, and though it's not without its flaws, it definitely helped shaped me at the time, especially with regard to its amazing musical numbers. I really like how you fleshed out Rinoa and Squall's relationship (of course!), but I've always wondered why people couldn't really believe their emotional connection for each other. But the way you presented it here is exactly how I understood their relationship developing (with Squall responding to Rinoa's love first).
Just discovering your channel until recently, but very much appreciate your content. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for the comment Port! It's so great to hear you enjoyed how we presented everything :)
Amazing coverage of the events. I would just maybe add one thing - Ragnarok wasn't a random spaceship. Ragnaroks (three of them if I remember) actually carried Adel's Tomb to the space, so it makes exact sense why it would be there. I don't remember though why did they lost contact with Eshtar.
Best girl, I love Rinoa. Every time I replay this game I learn something new about the characters, and this video taught me even more about my favorite ff female protagonist. What I love most about Squall and Rinoa is how much they really needed each other to grow as people. Other ff couples do this as well but I think FF8 does it best
Yes! Rinoa is definitely best girl and I really don't know why people don't like her, what's not to like?
@@Shiro92224they can't stand her because of they prefer Quistis rather place near Squall but.. I think she doesn't use Squall as rebound because of Seifer's refuse
Rinoa was always one of my overall favourite characters in the entire franchise. Her dynamic with Squall was really something else. I really liked the story of FF8, but the magic system really sacks the game's replayability.
i liked the junctioning system but it was just too broken
Loved this story breakdown of Rinoa, one of my favorite FF characters.
Wow, Rinoa's character is a lot deeper than I had considered!
Best girl
Same. She's got probably my favourite design of any FF girl too. Yuna is still my favourite though.
Loved this video. I always felt sorry for Rinoa when the SeeDs kind of dismissed her as a 'poor little rich girl'. She has seen genuine tragedy and, whilst the fight for Timber might have begun as spiting her father, I do think she really cares for the town and the Forest Owls.
Could you do Edea, next? Who she is and how she got her powers is sooo complicated!
Oh, and Seifer. I always found him so much more interesting than Squall!
Seifer is a dick.
Whell. Your narration and personal connection to this game, made me relive the beauty of this game. Great job for a great... ahem... best ps1 ff :)
Thank you so much DanePimp, so glad to hear you enjoyed the video and that we did Rinoa justice ! ~Darryl
Rinoa is my favorite character from the final fantasy series thank you soooo much for this video! ♥
Oh I love it! Rinoa and Squall indeed made the story romantic here. Love it! Great video. Honorable mention to Laguna and Julia - they too also make a lovely couple.
Very excited that you covered Rinoa like this! Playing the FFVIIremaster right now
I would love to see Sabin and Edgars story. As their story while short are rather intresting.
Balancing duty and freedom. And how the empire ruin their childhood and even more so. Their ways to support the returners as they spied withon the empire.
I really love this design of Rinoa over the Final Fantasy Dissidia NT design of her... This one is much more... Cute... Really beautiful.
That is why I fall in love with her when I was 12.
One thing that changed over the years was her jet black eyes. This was removed after the original. Even in the remaster that's no longer a thing. I think that was a signature characteristic (like Tifa's red irises), and I don't know why it went away
Even his lips are different, the nose... I see his complete face different, but yeah, the eyes are so different. :(
Can you please cover Quistis Trepe??? She is my favorite blue mage
Degenerator FTW
Gatiling gun does it for me
Go talk to a wall
Quistis is very genius and her blue magic is really helping me lots. Too bad she is too genius that she is not fit to be leader, guess i understand why she chose squall as leader
You can get Degenerator in less than an hour on FF8 and just wreck 90% of the enemies you encounter. That alone is a game breaker. And Quistis is just absolutely lovely on all fronts.
Enjoyed it? Heck, I loved this. She's one of my favorite FF female characters. I stopped what I was doing to watch this. Also, I'm happy you guys used that artwork from that artist in this. He/She's really good at what they do and I can't recommend enough that others go check out the rest of her works. :)
Love Rinoa as her own character and Squall is one of my favorite too, but together, they are the best :D
Thanks for the wonderful origin story and a deep dive into it. Getting a like and sub
Excellent video Final Fantasy 8 is one of my favourite games really enjoyed this one keep up the good work
More coverage of my favorite FF. Love the content. Keep it coming!
Cover Princess Garnet\Dagger From FFIX!
Ooh soft
yes please!!!
COMMAND FAILED! DAGGER CAN'T CONCENTRATE!
I would have ask the same !
Very well thought out analysis.
Please cover the birth, growth, and end of the Soldier project. Include Genesis, Angeal, Sephiroth, Soldier 1st, 2nd and 3rd ranks, the Nibleheim Incident and the experiments done thereafter and last but not least, go in depth on Deepground.
Thanks So Much for this! This is my favorite FF game since it was my first one, but the time travel aspect and the love story made it even better for me. Even though I have beaten this 5 times it still takes me a while to grasp the story, still your never forget your first love and my game girl will always be Rinoa.
I always love the origin stories you guys make keep up the awesome work
Thank you for the kind words Mario :)
As many times as I played ff8 the time that rinoa and squall share in the cockpit of Ragnarok always gets to me the vulnerability she shows just always seems to hit home.
Literally just completed again but remasters this time. Perfect timing!
Makes me sad Laguna and Julia but it all works out in the end
Julia was the hottest girl in this game..
Bwaka 67 if you think about it their love came true with squall and Rinoa
@@pkstarstorm5548 omg thats a good point
@@pkstarstorm5548 Indeed
Laguna was a creepo. Squall was right to be annoyed by him. Spontaneous leg cramp my ass
PLEASE DO PRINCESS GARNET IN FINAL FANTASY 9
Good video, makes me appreciate Rinoa more because even though I enjoy her character I have mixed views on how they portrayed it. Mainly how many times I have to rescue her which became quite tiring, not from her fault but the writer's choices.
Future videos would you consider doing an Aerith Gainsborough origins video in the lead up to FF7 remake?
kid kytes I like what you said about the writers’ choices. Some people don’t realise that and would be quick to dismiss an otherwise complex character.
The writers in this instance had something good in their hands and instead went with something trite and repetitive within the same game. This is coming from someone who loves weak characters and those who show fragility, where being rescued does have justification. But being rescued 4 or so times where one instance happened because she was literally standing on a spot where the ground collapsed beneath her feet is lazy writing.
I finished this game multiple times as a teener, but man, i totally forgot about this story of Rinoa. I think i need to refresh my memory after more than 15 years. Wow. Thanks for this nice story. :)
After playing FF8 countless times, there's 2 things that I really dont understand: What are they talking about during the orphanage flower field event, and what actually happened in the ending, the whole time compression thing.
TheGreator the orphanage thing is about showing that all (but Rinoa) party members had a past. Those memories were forgotten due to using Gaurdian forces. Some party members feel it was a big price to pay, but squall says it’s worth it to win. Even if it means forgetting precious memories.
The ending is a happy moment before Ultemecia is Born (Seed having to fight again and a grim future) Squall made a promise to always be at Rinoas side no matter if she becomes the enemy of the world. In the flashes by squall being lost in the void, there are scenes mixing Rinoas death or Rinoa showing some resemblance to Ultemecia. Squall can’t react because he loves/cares for Rinoa.
Even when Squall meets up Edea to see the sorceress pass her power. Edea willingly repeats the cycle/loop. Squall gets lost for he knows even with killing Ultemecia in the future, she will still be born again.
Rinoa brings back Squall, and I can only guess Squall and the party forgets the Sorcerers for they use Gaurdian Forces.
Thus, Ultemecia is born later, and the loop continues.
That’s what I interpreted from FF8
Commented 3 years late. FF8 is the best RPG gem of the PS1 generation, when you count magic, refining, cards, mini games, gf relationships, gf abilities, tank heal dps options in the junction menu plus att def, status att and def it was leagues and leagues ahead of any game of it's time. Still IMHO the best FF, it was the truest RPG.
Didn't care for Rinoa but I found her complexity intriguing. In Squall's shoes, I'd have gotten with any of the other girls. Your coverage made her much more sympathetic too. Good work!
This is a great video. Firstly I never understood the hate for FFVIII sure the drawing of magic is a drag and the levelling is whack but at least remastered added a high speed function. The storyline and characters make this one of my favourites and Squall and Rinoa are two of my favourites. The way she gradually breaks down his barriers is really moving. (By the way your Squall vid was equally awesome and very insightful) both these characters are incredibly complex which is precisely why they found love...I dont agree with those comments who said their love story was unbelievable and random. It makes perfect sense as an outgoing and bubbly character like Rinoa who is passionate and caring is the only kind who could break down Squall's resolve and careful walls he had built to protect himself. What a lovely pairing. I much prefer the Squall type characters to the loud, in your face personality of Tidus or Zell (much alike at the start of FFX)
Another reason I love your videos is they teach me correct pronunciation of names and places. I always thought it was See-Dee and Dell-ing City. Obviously I cant reas.
(I also always wondered why I had a weird crush on pixel squall....makes more sense now I know he was based on River Phoenix. One of my favourite actors).
Thanks Darryl for another great video you explain things so well and your knowledge is second to none!
I love the videos that y’all do! Your research is second to none. I have loved ffviii for a long time and I didn’t know a lot of the stuff that you mentioned.
Thank you very much for the great content FFU!
Also you should do Laguna Loire next I would really like to know more about him!
Feels like playing the game again just by watching (mostly listening to) the video. Thanks. She might initially come of as a bit of an airhead like Selphie, but she has massive character development over the game, more than Squall I'd say
I absolutely loved this. Thank you so much
Honestly, she was my LEAST favourite heroine before this. I always found her too cutesy and childish, and shallow. But now, after hearing your analysis of her, I feel she's so relatable and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and making me fall in love with FF8 all over again.
You're most welcome Thar, glad you enjoyed!
She is an absolutely beautiful character
YASSSSSSSS PLEASE DO LAGUNA! 20 YEARS LATER AND IM STILL CONFUSED ABOUT HIS PAST
I have a theory that the Guardian Forces were actual people before they became the summons, i think this due to the ring Squall names matching the GF that Ultamecia uses at the games final battle sequnces.
Wow very nice storytelling! Thank you. Cannot wait to see Quistis next. She's always been a mystery.
One of my favorite female characters in 8 next to Quistis. I named my character in FF14 after her.
this is one of the reasons why I loved FFVIII.
Starts video, Stops video, Listens to "Eyes on Me" ... cries, restarts video...
It is and will always be one of my favorite songs in the series.
I'm sorry. I cried. I cannot hold back my tears. At this rate, I'll never regret subscribing to this channel.
Update: I finally finished FFVIII last September. It was one of the most unbelievable moment in my life I'll never forget it. Thanks to this video.
Here’s to hoping we see Kain Highwind, Golbez, Basch Fon Ronsenburg, and Cor Leonis in the future! Keep up the great work!
Kain or golbez pls.
you know, for Ragnarok came out of nowhere to save the duo is the most deus ex machina moment in ff8
1:20 And Seifer is pretty much the Yang of Squall's Ying
This game is sick
Wait... are you implying that Seifer was gay and had a man crush on Squall?
Lmao
I really enjoyed the video and the idea that rinoa and squalls' romance is also a fitting end to laguna and Julia's as well. Almost like the romance was passed down from father to son and mother to daughter.
Rinoa and Squall are in my top 3 for favorite romances.
That's a little misleading. Squall, Zell, and Selphie would have absolutely charged into the station and tried to kidnap or kill Deiling. Squall's frustration is born out of the fact that he feels his skills and status as a SeeD are being woefully underutilized by an admittedly amateurish operation. The SeeDs did not talk Rinoa down from doing something stupid. In fact they received an order to apprehend Seifer that superseded the contract. The group would have definitely charged in though.
But it's part of the narrative which actually cleverly examines and deconstructs the common youth media and especially Japanese trope of the super-powered war-veteran sixteen-year-old, and shows just how rough it is to take on saving the world as a responsibility.
Now that you are covering a Final Fantasy VIII character origin, how about Seifer Almasy? Maybe even making a video for some more characters from Final Fantasy XII like: Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca or Basch fon Ronsenburg
I'M CAPTAIN BASCH!!!
My first video game character crush when i was in highschool. The most attractive character in final fantasy for me. I liked her so much that I named my first born
daughter after her
This was a wonderful Origins story... You've made sense out of this story by diving deep into its lore. You have a great sounding reading voice and should consider doing audible type book readings.
Thank you so much, it's so great to hear that you enjoyed the video! :) ~Darryl
Love this!
Ultimecia next please!
Rinoa was the reason I started playing FF series. ❤️
i have a hard time picking my favorite between rinoa and squall. i really enjoyed this video i hope to see more from this one in particular! :)
This just made me love this game even more.❤️❤️
Love to see videos on Edea, Adel & Ultimecia
It’s sad that Rinoa’s mother died. Laguna and Julia not being together was also sad
I remember balling my eyes out when Squall and Rinoa were hugging in the ship cockpit.
This is a very touching character back story
Great video like always!
I was so addicted to her that I even made a picture frame of her and making her as a standard for the girl I wanted to be with forever and to say this was my first final fantasy game that started it all, now 15 years later and watching this video, all those emotions over the years just coming back in, thank you final fantasy union from the bottom of my heart
Amazing video 👍
Omg I had a mega crush on her in 6th grade. It was crazy how in love I was with her. She was always in the party 😏
Mmmm, those sexy pixels.
I'd still tap it :)
I have had a crush on her since I was 10
Have you ever thought of trying to do an origin story for the Turks from Final Fantasy 7?
Great idea
@@NONONO852 Thank you. God bless. :)
Character wise this might be my favorite FF game
Everyone is just so full of charm
my favorite grumpyxsunshine duo🥺
As always, it's a pleasure to listen to you.
Thanks !
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I rarely ever comment but damn good analysis of her in this video. Looking forward to see more.
Thank you Casey :)
Wonderful work. Thank you
GREAT VIDEO!!! MUCH LOVE!!
I played FF8 like 6 times through and I had no idea the story was so crazy deep and emotional. Amazing how FF8 is underrated.
I always felt like FF8 was kind of underrated. I haven't played it in forever, but Rinoa was a great character to me when I did.