To be fair to the Dva at 21:50 If it was the first time they went to OT without the other team touching, they might have thought they only had to touch to win. Definitely not talking from experience.
@tnb4509 Pharah and Junk aren't as good as you might think on Console. I try them and the aim assist ends up being a detriment then a benefit Ashe is kind of OP, minimal turn around required and you can hit most of your shots as long as your not being pressured
@@tnb4509Before Season 9, aim assist being on trying to do the one shot combo on Junkrat was atrocious. It helps way more with beams and hitscan, less so Pharah Rockets and Bombs. TL;DR it's way harder than it looks to aim.
As a Pharah player, watching them use the concussive rocket so sparingly is infuriating. Now that it's also a meaningful damage dealing tool it's superb at cleaning up low health enemies at more extreme distances, and even more importantly, it disrupts enemy aim and positioning from ridiculous angles.
A big learning curve for this game is map knowledge and knowing where all the ramps are to high ground. OW doesn't have mantling or many boxes scattered around the map you can climb on like other FPS games A lot of the ramps are also placed in blocked off areas, so it's not very obvious when a flank route will lead you to a ramp or is just a tunnel
i think it’s just lack of knowledge that high ground is better positioning opposed to new/ low ranks thinking they have to always be on cart. not lack of knowing how to get there. low rank players spend 5 seconds on high ground before they jump off.
People saying flats is toxic: Bro, they submitted the game review to get roasted, that's how this works lol. And tbh, it could be worse, Flats could be supertf toxic 😂
@@KiraMahMan yeah. Also, if you want a more instructional game, ask emongg instead, since he's always giving actual game advice. Flats just likes roasting people because, well, people do dumb things and it's funny.
Nothing hurts me more as a Sym player than people just throwing turrets on the floor. WHERE YOU CAN EASILY DESTROY THEM. And don’t TP without a plan. I pre aim where an enemy is before taking TP so I can pop in and out
as a console player who placed at the bottom of silver on support this season, this is still somehow like the midrange for dps down there. it was hell, made it to gold though so progress i suppose
My support placements were absolute hell, i believe i would have gotten low silver or something. Some of the losses were definitely my fault but some of my teammates felt like some mad scientists were teaching rats how to play video games
Ive had this dude in a plat lobby im pretty sure while I was playing support sometime last week. He was talking mad crap on everyone as he went 4-16 and kept solo diving mauga bastion and leaving LOS. He wanted ana and zen (me) to push with him when our tank wouldnt even be out of spawn yet 😂
@peryshko1273 there is but it's practically throwing because it takes to long for text. He was in vc tho. Most are like an ana I had who did 600 heals and said it wasn't his job to sustain the team
Reading the description of bronze roasting is so passive aggressive I loved it. Id love to submit one of mine but I’ve never been in bronze or silver Im higher but I still have games where I THINK I should win
as someone whos played OW2 from bronze to plat, your getting teams up to gold holding that first choke and even in plat players dont secure kills and it drives me insane its just out of sight out of mind for a lot of those players
As soon as he swapped to reaper, I sat up. I main reaper (I know, easy to use, etc. I swap to reaper if it’s a “time to win” moment. Otherwise I play what we need) but I feel like I’m pretty good at reaper (not the best, but played him enough to know how to properly play him). Flats is spot on though, you gotta shove those shotguns into there butt and go to town, and use the ghost form to escape OR to reload “quick”. If your teleporting it’s best to go somewhere not in line of sight, not on the bridge that everyone can see
I main Sym and this video is just about the most painful thing i've ever watched. The lakc of turret bombing, almost no pre-setup, bad turret placement, 2v1 without maxbeam. I was sobbing
One thing i notice in bronze/silver is they dont track by turning or aiming. they try and track with movement. if the someone went left out of their line of fire they wouldnt turn to track them they would move the same direction to keep them centered on screen
@@lolzntrollz8615I mean, possibly, vut not because its inherent to controller players, but because the playerbase on console is probably younger. I've noticed tracking thing by movement isn't uncommon with people who aren't entirely used to naturally moving both sticks (which comes eith experience)
With that reaction time, a hitscan might be better for them. Not even trying to be mean but usually you have to have good predictions and flicks for projectile heros. I’m mostly saying this because at 2:21 they somehow managed to miss a point blank rocket in a tight corridor on a lifeweaver
I loved old school spectating and roasting bronze series but from the comments I saw just during the video or under it I can see why flats stopped doing them. It is just sad because it was really funny and in each person could saw some mistakes to avoid and got maybe like tip or two.
20:56 pressing concussive right there could've solved like 3 different problems, two of which couldve died sooner and one of which wouldve been that whole getting shot problem cause then he wouldve been in a better position to jump away with the dash. Remember that concussive is like 30 damage in a big area and 30 for a direct, but even landing it close on those two wouldve killed the rein at least. Just my two cents on that situation as a gold 1 pharah main
@@canovanthecanman they exist because of desperate 9 year olds who get neglected by their parents so begging for likes is the most attention they will get in their life
Unironically this looked so fun. I'll have to check it out later tonight. This game is giving me Battleborn vibes while being remarkably similar to Overwatch
judging by the discord name, the match and even the message, I have reason to believe "The Atomic Rizzler" is like 12 or under which would explain the content and why they are clueless to their loss thinking it was their teams fault
Bro do more of this!!! this is hilarious!! find the funniest named ppl and just farm them... PLEASE the lets pause this and go over his options part FLOORED ME - edit the sym ult sucked SO bad it mad silvers play at masters level.. THAT SENT ME IN THE DIRT!!
@@pvinixje6852 3000 hours isn't impossible if you've played for a long time and play Overwatch every day, but 3000 hours on pharah of all characters, one of the most boring ass characters in history is sad 💀
The highest rank ive ever finished a season with is plat 1 but like this makes me wanna find a way to trash my rank to bronze 5 and try to climb from there cause the game seems so much more fun to do that way
If you fiddle with the settings enough you can make the aim assist pretty good. I think that's something the lower ranks don't realize, but it takes time and you gotta find what works best for you
Watching this guys Phara, hurts. With her reworks, she is the queen of off angles. All you really need to know is places up high to set down for refilling gas, and take shots. Occasionally dive on enemies out of position. It’s pretty simple. This hurts.
Yeah as quick play enjoyer that sometimes gets matched up with masters that happen to be silver at literally anything else but support, theres nothing more annoying that them instalocking reaper because their brains cant deal with a more skilled character lol
i mean you kinda have to play the game to get good? were you bad in your first ever fps you played? 100%! did you have fun? probably. else you woulndt be here rn
I feel like low level Reaper players (and I say this with love because I used to be this way) play the character because their aim sucks, but it's a shotgun, so if you use it at midrange you always hit something, and as long as you hear the damage tick it's better than a miss.... Right? Took me forever to figure out "ooooooh, 2 damage from one bullet may as well be zero damage... Back to Junkrat!"
To put bronze to low gold elo into perspective it is the only place where you can legitimately boost someone by playing mercy unless the person being boosted is a bronze widow/hanzo player
Flats, you must understand in the lower ranks, Bastion is feared because no one has a brain. I can make these jokes, I belong in silver (yet overwatch lords put me in high gold and plat...lemme out!)
dude. as a Pharah onetrick in gold i was like "okay so im gonna get to maybe see some similar gameplay, maybe i can even improve on a few things myself" DUDE WHAT IN THE TARNATIONED SCALLOP WAS WHAT I JUST WATCHED ASHNJDFRGFSDAURIOGHORSADFIUGHSARDFOIUHBWTYBSGDTHYBSD
@19:08 - about 20:10 am I crazy or is he hacking?? I slowed it down to .25 and bro's tracking mfs through walls. He also snaps on the bastion shortly after yeeting nade that looks sussy. Also the perfect tracking on the downward right falling movement out if no where is strange considering they're consistently incapable of tracking a fuckin barn. There's a few moments like this throughout this vid that had me raising eyebrows. Am I crazy?
I can't watch this. It's painful because Pharah having her wings clipped, her identity removed and turned into yet another 'switch hero' when the situation calls for it. And the person piloting Pharah being inept at hitting stuff point-blank.
Huh pharah didn’t lose her identity. She’s still a airborn hero who fires rockets. All they did was remove the “fly as far away kissing the skybox” playstyle that was terrible to play against. You still fly and can be super aggressive.
He floated away because he new that weaver would diff him... I know the feeling. Also ngl as an xbox player the aim assist is pretty much aim bot, and you can turn it up in your setting its crazy.
You kind of have to give credit to the dva as they actually decided to use the map multiple times tbf Just... they have that feed meter to fill Just took them some time
I love the contrast between these and emongs videos. Emong : nice try, you should try this next time. Flats : Have you considered not being trash?
With a name like atomic rizzler? Deserved. All jokes aside, the contrast is vastly different
I believe emong's videos are not focused around roasting, but i dont watch him too often so i cant really give an opinion
@@chara8074 Yeah Emongg is supposed to be educational i guess, Flats said his reviews are for roasting
Flats tell people their dumb and emongg tells you how to fix it. Content creators gotta support each other
flats makes me laugh sm
To be fair to the Dva at 21:50 If it was the first time they went to OT without the other team touching, they might have thought they only had to touch to win. Definitely not talking from experience.
I remember when that was actually a thing, before it got changed
Oh god, a silver console Pharah player. As a console player myself, this is guaranteed to be a disaster.
How tf do you play Pharah and Junk on CONSOLE and still be silver? Not even aimlabs can help this guy.
@@tnb4509aim assist doesn’t really help with projectiles if anything it’s detrimental
@tnb4509 Pharah and Junk aren't as good as you might think on Console. I try them and the aim assist ends up being a detriment then a benefit
Ashe is kind of OP, minimal turn around required and you can hit most of your shots as long as your not being pressured
@@tnb4509Before Season 9, aim assist being on trying to do the one shot combo on Junkrat was atrocious. It helps way more with beams and hitscan, less so Pharah Rockets and Bombs. TL;DR it's way harder than it looks to aim.
its harder to play pharah cos of console aim assist me hitscan@@tnb4509
I love how the Moira used Atomic as a meatshield in this last defense
2:50 "must've been wind" ahh moment
As a Pharah player, watching them use the concussive rocket so sparingly is infuriating. Now that it's also a meaningful damage dealing tool it's superb at cleaning up low health enemies at more extreme distances, and even more importantly, it disrupts enemy aim and positioning from ridiculous angles.
A big learning curve for this game is map knowledge and knowing where all the ramps are to high ground. OW doesn't have mantling or many boxes scattered around the map you can climb on like other FPS games
A lot of the ramps are also placed in blocked off areas, so it's not very obvious when a flank route will lead you to a ramp or is just a tunnel
i think it’s just lack of knowledge that high ground is better positioning opposed to new/ low ranks thinking they have to always be on cart. not lack of knowing how to get there. low rank players spend 5 seconds on high ground before they jump off.
People saying flats is toxic: Bro, they submitted the game review to get roasted, that's how this works lol. And tbh, it could be worse, Flats could be supertf toxic 😂
Yeah he's actually quite mild now compared to what he was like in the early spectating bronzes videos lol
@@KiraMahMan yeah. Also, if you want a more instructional game, ask emongg instead, since he's always giving actual game advice. Flats just likes roasting people because, well, people do dumb things and it's funny.
it's honestly useless to point that out because people only read what they want to read.
Nothing hurts me more as a Sym player than people just throwing turrets on the floor. WHERE YOU CAN EASILY DESTROY THEM. And don’t TP without a plan. I pre aim where an enemy is before taking TP so I can pop in and out
Ew sym player
I have never wheezed so hard in my life at the face he made of disappointment at 13:32
as a console player who placed at the bottom of silver on support this season, this is still somehow like the midrange for dps down there. it was hell, made it to gold though so progress i suppose
My support placements were absolute hell, i believe i would have gotten low silver or something. Some of the losses were definitely my fault but some of my teammates felt like some mad scientists were teaching rats how to play video games
The way flats say you greedy bastard is so funny to me
Ive had this dude in a plat lobby im pretty sure while I was playing support sometime last week. He was talking mad crap on everyone as he went 4-16 and kept solo diving mauga bastion and leaving LOS. He wanted ana and zen (me) to push with him when our tank wouldnt even be out of spawn yet 😂
There's no chat on console, is there?
@peryshko1273 there is! you push down one of the analog sticks and have to type on a console keyboard so it takes a while
@@scurbbbvery few can master the art of console keyboard, so many choose to not type. Vc is the only way to go.
Of course there is wym?@@peryshko1273
@peryshko1273 there is but it's practically throwing because it takes to long for text. He was in vc tho. Most are like an ana I had who did 600 heals and said it wasn't his job to sustain the team
looks like he got lucky to get into silver
Console silver
@@button9 a horrible place id just never console overwatch :S
@@button9 tbf PC silver looks exactly like this but with better aim lol
@@button9trust me when i say he deserves to be in silver as low gold/ silver console player. he fit right in playing floorah and reaper 76😭
@@button9console silver and bronze is way better than Pc silver and Bronze lmao u seen the pc players flats have spectated they are all abysmal
Reading the description of bronze roasting is so passive aggressive I loved it. Id love to submit one of mine but I’ve never been in bronze or silver Im higher but I still have games where I THINK I should win
God danm I wish my silver games looked like this but apparently I'm playing against fucking gods down here
Truly love this series wish you would do it more
19:27 the Bastions whistled at each other
spectating in a nutshell
Emongg: are ya winnin' son?
Flats: no bitches?
as someone whos played OW2 from bronze to plat, your getting teams up to gold holding that first choke and even in plat players dont secure kills and it drives me insane its just out of sight out of mind for a lot of those players
3:59 - Facepalm slap 10/10 😂
the moment i saw him facepalm like that i instantly thought of that meme with the massive amount of people facepalming
i felt that through my screen bro
As soon as he swapped to reaper, I sat up. I main reaper (I know, easy to use, etc. I swap to reaper if it’s a “time to win” moment. Otherwise I play what we need) but I feel like I’m pretty good at reaper (not the best, but played him enough to know how to properly play him). Flats is spot on though, you gotta shove those shotguns into there butt and go to town, and use the ghost form to escape OR to reload “quick”. If your teleporting it’s best to go somewhere not in line of sight, not on the bridge that everyone can see
I main Sym and this video is just about the most painful thing i've ever watched. The lakc of turret bombing, almost no pre-setup, bad turret placement, 2v1 without maxbeam. I was sobbing
One thing i notice in bronze/silver is they dont track by turning or aiming. they try and track with movement. if the someone went left out of their line of fire they wouldnt turn to track them they would move the same direction to keep them centered on screen
i think that’s moreso just aiming on controller than earlier ranks
@@lolzntrollz8615I mean, possibly, vut not because its inherent to controller players, but because the playerbase on console is probably younger.
I've noticed tracking thing by movement isn't uncommon with people who aren't entirely used to naturally moving both sticks (which comes eith experience)
at 00:35 it's worse when you realized he DID edit the message, just didn't add the photo lmao
With that reaction time, a hitscan might be better for them. Not even trying to be mean but usually you have to have good predictions and flicks for projectile heros. I’m mostly saying this because at 2:21 they somehow managed to miss a point blank rocket in a tight corridor on a lifeweaver
In his defense, there's not a Pharah alive who hasn't missed the most obvious unmissable rocket in the world and got rolled.
@@asimplewizard Yeah but it was mostly how they were playing as well which was interesting
This is like watching kittens fight or watching toddlers try to figure out puzzles but have no concept of 3D space
6:32 the slow camera pan SENT me 💀😂😂
Ever since the previous Junkrat one I’ve been anticipating more in this series, and Flats (and bronze Atomic de-rizzler) did you deliver
@17:15 "Leeeroooooy Jennnnkinnnns!"
13:30 i put my finger over my eyes slightly and look up to se Flats have the EXACT same reaction lmao
"You just wanted the kills on the kill feed"😂
A feed so large, it kept my family fed for generations
Flats turns into Jerry Seinfeld at about 8:40
I loved old school spectating and roasting bronze series but from the comments I saw just during the video or under it I can see why flats stopped doing them. It is just sad because it was really funny and in each person could saw some mistakes to avoid and got maybe like tip or two.
chat: Why is flats being so mean?
the submitters: cause thats what we signed up for?
Its called bronze roasting for a reason XD
I used to main Pharah when I played DPS and watching this just hurts my soul
20:56 pressing concussive right there could've solved like 3 different problems, two of which couldve died sooner and one of which wouldve been that whole getting shot problem cause then he wouldve been in a better position to jump away with the dash. Remember that concussive is like 30 damage in a big area and 30 for a direct, but even landing it close on those two wouldve killed the rein at least. Just my two cents on that situation as a gold 1 pharah main
"no views in 10 minutes, bro fell off" ahh comment incoming
God help us
You commented it aswell clown
It’s the new ‘I will do 1 pushup” comment
I don't get why those comments are a thing
@@canovanthecanman they exist because of desperate 9 year olds who get neglected by their parents so begging for likes is the most attention they will get in their life
Unironically this looked so fun. I'll have to check it out later tonight. This game is giving me Battleborn vibes while being remarkably similar to Overwatch
8:01 As a gold tank that deals with reapers all the time I want to face this guy on reaper 😂😂😂
If people are this tunnel vision in game I can only imagine thier driving skills
that Dva was playing for style points
As an Ana / illari and other hitscan player it’s actually crazy how fast this guy would get killed in the air because with how sill he is
I love how we've upgraded from "Spectating Bronze" to "Spectating Silver".
and yet somehow the players are in no capacity more skilled than what we're used to seeing 🤣
???? He has spectated literally every rank since overwatch came out??? You can find silver videos from years ago. Your comment is pointless
@@I_am_a_cat_ True. But "Spectating Bronze" is one of his playlist that he used to do pretty consistently.
Silver Console is pretty much Bronze PC. It's pretty universal across all PvP games.
@@lamarhoward722it’s just a better title
THATS MY BOY HOTDOG REPRESENTING WOOOO PUT SOME RESPECT ON HIS NAME NEVER FORGET THE ZERO
Bro really just read us the terms of service 😂😂😂
The looking at the camera got me 😂
"Yeah, you're playing Reaper:76 right now"
I had someone in my game with like 2k hours, but 1700h was ONLY sym, the next highest time was 30 mins on torb… how
1 trick go brr
Holy shit , i just noticed Flats’ headphones
What a flex
judging by the discord name, the match and even the message, I have reason to believe "The Atomic Rizzler" is like 12 or under which would explain the content and why they are clueless to their loss thinking it was their teams fault
The one right move Pharah makes and its hammered. If they hadn't backed, it would have been, "why chase when so low and at enemy spawn?"
this Pharah's sense (both game and sensitivity) is lower than my grandpa that died 4 years ago
LOL im the ashe on the his team! I told him in VC to switch a couple times but didn’t listen
How is this guy not bronze 4.
He probably would be if he was on PC. No matter the game players tend to rank higher when on Console then they would on PC.
That mercy did everything in her power to help this man lmao
Bro do more of this!!! this is hilarious!! find the funniest named ppl and just farm them... PLEASE the lets pause this and go over his options part FLOORED ME
- edit the sym ult sucked SO bad it mad silvers play at masters level.. THAT SENT ME IN THE DIRT!!
This guy made flats aim look good 💀
As a 3000hr+ pharah player, this is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
either you're lying or 3000+ hours on pharah is just sad 💀
@@TheH3llboyfr does this person do anything besides play video games 24/7 ?
@@pvinixje6852 3000 hours isn't impossible if you've played for a long time and play Overwatch every day, but 3000 hours on pharah of all characters, one of the most boring ass characters in history is sad 💀
Spatial awareness of a walnut
we need more of those
“What in the bronze am I watching”
The highest rank ive ever finished a season with is plat 1 but like this makes me wanna find a way to trash my rank to bronze 5 and try to climb from there cause the game seems so much more fun to do that way
If you fiddle with the settings enough you can make the aim assist pretty good. I think that's something the lower ranks don't realize, but it takes time and you gotta find what works best for you
2:43 he forgor 💀
Am i going insane or is there Mystic Messenger music playing in the background... 13:00
As one of the 4 pharah mains out there, this was especially painful to watch
Phara players deserve to be in silver
This "Public shame" series are my favorite flats
keep going💯 😊❤
Guess the player name was accurate, cause Flats gave a Nuclear level roasting to Atomic.
Watching this guys Phara, hurts. With her reworks, she is the queen of off angles. All you really need to know is places up high to set down for refilling gas, and take shots. Occasionally dive on enemies out of position. It’s pretty simple. This hurts.
19:38 wtf is this guy doing. low ground bastion.
I was a mercy silver back at the beginning of OW2, I can’t believe I was this bad back than but as mercy, 9:24 On defend?, Where’s your turrets?
Yeah as quick play enjoyer that sometimes gets matched up with masters that happen to be silver at literally anything else but support, theres nothing more annoying that them instalocking reaper because their brains cant deal with a more skilled character lol
I don't understand how its fun to be that bad
i mean you kinda have to play the game to get good? were you bad in your first ever fps you played? 100%! did you have fun? probably. else you woulndt be here rn
@@masterofdisguise6874not this bad if yu been playin fps games for a yrs or even a few weeks u should have decent aim this was horrific
Which part of the server do we submit this kind of content to?
bro isnt playing pharah he's playing floorah
I feel like low level Reaper players (and I say this with love because I used to be this way) play the character because their aim sucks, but it's a shotgun, so if you use it at midrange you always hit something, and as long as you hear the damage tick it's better than a miss.... Right?
Took me forever to figure out "ooooooh, 2 damage from one bullet may as well be zero damage... Back to Junkrat!"
Change or add a rule like “I will shit on your gameplay submitting means you most certainly derserve it”
I should try out Pharah... I cant be this bad, but on the other hand my enemies are not so easy either... decisions, decisions.
To put bronze to low gold elo into perspective it is the only place where you can legitimately boost someone by playing mercy unless the person being boosted is a bronze widow/hanzo player
Flats, you must understand in the lower ranks, Bastion is feared because no one has a brain. I can make these jokes, I belong in silver (yet overwatch lords put me in high gold and plat...lemme out!)
Bastion is super good in diamond rn😂
dude. as a Pharah onetrick in gold i was like "okay so im gonna get to maybe see some similar gameplay, maybe i can even improve on a few things myself" DUDE WHAT IN THE TARNATIONED SCALLOP WAS WHAT I JUST WATCHED ASHNJDFRGFSDAURIOGHORSADFIUGHSARDFOIUHBWTYBSGDTHYBSD
As a bastion main, that hurt
The thing I love about Flats is that he criticizes everyone equally
That’s the type of dps I get
How do you submit these??
How do you submit one of these?
I'm also in silver 3, but this sure didn't feel the same, I guess console games are just different.
Appreciate the vod reviews, much love
@19:08 - about 20:10 am I crazy or is he hacking?? I slowed it down to .25 and bro's tracking mfs through walls. He also snaps on the bastion shortly after yeeting nade that looks sussy. Also the perfect tracking on the downward right falling movement out if no where is strange considering they're consistently incapable of tracking a fuckin barn. There's a few moments like this throughout this vid that had me raising eyebrows. Am I crazy?
so these are the players who keep popping up on my S4 rankup game
This is the silver 3 experience right here. I went trough it already and would be happy to never go trough it again.
I can't watch this. It's painful because Pharah having her wings clipped, her identity removed and turned into yet another 'switch hero' when the situation calls for it. And the person piloting Pharah being inept at hitting stuff point-blank.
Huh pharah didn’t lose her identity. She’s still a airborn hero who fires rockets. All they did was remove the “fly as far away kissing the skybox” playstyle that was terrible to play against. You still fly and can be super aggressive.
Brother im scared now. One bad game and imma be rinsed by flats
hello flats hello flats hello flats hello flats! hello flats hello flats?
Flats is the new case oh
Trying to figure out how they never touched high ground on 3rd point offense or defense my brain it hurts
He floated away because he new that weaver would diff him... I know the feeling. Also ngl as an xbox player the aim assist is pretty much aim bot, and you can turn it up in your setting its crazy.
You kind of have to give credit to the dva as they actually decided to use the map multiple times tbf
Just... they have that feed meter to fill
Just took them some time