>Became a king that was kind to his people >Caught a disease for being so nice >Stopped an assassination attempt while alone and half-blind >Refused to elaborate further >Leaves, sent off by a parade of grateful citizens. I doubt anyone could name a cooler backstory from this series, or, hell, even from other franchises.
@@aegisScale My man's only reason for being with the group of ragtag idiots is that he contracted an incurable disease, AND HE'S STILL ON THE BATTLEFIELD. He's here for purely benevolent reasons. The sweetest man you know is coming to murder your greatest failures and save the world, and all he asks is for you to point him to the thing so his big fuckoff sword doesn't hit the pavement.
@@aegisScalein DD1 comic strip, unlike other character's comics, his final shot has the white halo that's associated with being virtuous instead of the usual iron crown
Much like he said, I just can't convince myself that running an enemy specific path is a good idea, especially with the built-in negatives. Definitely agree with you, though.
@@travisunderwood7898 People sometimes argue that cosmic enemies are the only enemies that matter, but you still have to battle at least one region boss before coming to the mountain. And that is very difficult to do with a dead weight Leper. Can spam vulnerable with Intimidate on the Librarian (and take away the dodge tokens) for sure, but the rest are just too rough. I guess Leviathan wouldn't be so bad if the big guy took him instead of one of the others? I dunno.
@@masterblaster2678Here’s your solution: A, preferably DOT, team against the General. You can poke the Taproot with Intimidate, which’ll bait attacks to him. Don’t need to do that? Use Purge! It applies Vulnerable now, so it’ll help out other units! Rot Squad (PD/GR/Flag/Leper) is fantastic. I actually beat Act 2 for the first time with it today. Go Blight, give it a shot.
@@chadhardt6136 specifically the one dude that doesn't die AND throws himself in front of you whenever the enemy DARES to think about hitting someone else.
yea, played "The Meatgrinder" (occ, jest, hwm, leper) a bit. great fun, though it was a bit of a struggle to maintain jester on pos3/4 for stress healing and keep the hwm alive on pos2. what does the rest of your comp look like?
@@dasZecke92 chop leper, 2nd rank occultist with range damage path, virtuoso jester, and the blight path plague doctor. Most fights is kill the back line, then deal with the front.
I used it to get through part of the Ambition final boss where it gained block+ per turn, it really sped up the fight while giving me massive momentum.
I wish monarch gave him 100% ignore/resist blind when fighting cosmic enemies. Then he could effectively get the full value when he’s in a cosmic fight.
I love his Simple Flower Trinket against Leviathan. As Poet is pretty difficult to move so if the Hand keeps using Batter against him he becomes night unkillable.
Interesting. I find Break super useful in fights where enemies stack block and super block which makes my Chop hit about as hard as Break, except Chop would only take away one armor stack.
I've only just unlocked all his skills, Leper either seems to be quite mediocre or with the right items/buffs pretty damn strong (e.g. critting 50-60's on the regular) The trinket that gives +66% crit when you are blinded is pretty nuts on him, though most stained items are eh. Usually take stun or bleed resist.
personally I think Leper should also ignore blind if he has a token of some sort, maybe this could be changed via a trinket, so a whole move/s isn't overbuffed. For example one trinket could allow Leper to ignore blind if he has a strength token, but the downside to this trinket is that strength no longer increases his damage by 50% (and maybe have a second upside that makes combo tokens increase his damage by 50% instead :/)
Personally I think his combo consuming abilities should give him better crit, either through that trinket you mentioned or on mastery. That way it doesn't feel like you're wasting combo.
Leper is one of the coolest looking characters. I wonder what happened to the Abomination. Such a fucking cool idea and so well done on DD1. Anyone would know and would mind replying?
Don't know if you already covered this topic, but I would like to see a video where you talk about the gameplay differences between DD1 and DD2 and your opinion on them, such as campaign progression (such as 5 chapters instead of one big campaign and the carriage vs dungeon topic), characters and Hamlet/altar progression (difference between altar and Hamlet as permanent upgrades and how you unlock new abilities and upgrades for heroes) and core combat ( such as removal of dodge, acc and prot in exchange of tokens and combo, enemies deathblow resist and more corpses interactions) and maybe other stuff like trinkets and enemies combat design. You certainly see all the time people saying how bad DD2 is compared to the first game, but the truth is that it is a very different yet familiar structure and gameplay, and the combat feels weirdly much more complex and simple (or straight forward) at the same time. I really like the difference between the 2 games, and I don't think any is superior than the other, both are enjoyable with different but familiar structures and design, but I would like to see your opinion on it and see what people think of this topic
@@LucarioDoTlowers if not outright removes the ability to feel pain. This is actually the main reason why those with leprosy lose limbs. They get infects because the afflicted has no idea they even got a bad cut or whatever. Judging by his skin he probably doesn't feel any pain, and going by his kit you're right that the dude is just willing to take hits from his enemies that he knows his teammates can't
Hello Shuffle FM just wanted to tell you that the 3 Boss got reworked and your guide with the taunt no longer works. I think a new one would be great contend. Thank your for all the great videos. You made my return to playing DD way more fun, your altar of hope and the Hero best build guide was super helpful..
I don’t know if I’m crazy, but it seems like chop/hew doesn’t consume the combo token if the leper manages to resist the blinding effect, or it could be that he wasn’t blinded when the attack lands. It’s a nice little thing to have even if the blinding chance are still quite high even with upgrades
I'm late to commenting on this but just in case, Ruin+'s bleed doesn't get nullified by bodkin afaik, so you can use Ruin+ with bodkin just fine (it has a pretty good synergy since it'll nullify/reduce other incoming bleeds while giving you extra actions from Ruin+)
Had a fun run where i built around my jester largely, runaways smokebomb was a carry since i could ignore blinds and when i couldn't id just lasha's gift with flag, worked well enough but far from a meta build
Wow i never realized movement resist was so bad in dd2. 30 seems to be the max across all characters without paths. I wouldn't actually call his bad because he upgrades later to normal move resist.
One run i had a Lethal Feint Leper with Calibrating Censer so i would just have him miss one round, get crit and strength, and every time i readied up another chop, my mind would always provide the sound of a gun cocking as he lifts his arm up
I might be weird, but I prefer Poet path over Tempest, and for these reasons: 1) Poet can tank, self heal and stress heal incredibly effectively - I mean, you almost never attack (I don't count Intimidate), but he's close to immortal and the rest of the group can chill out and even the healers and stress healers can focus more on dmg. 2) You almost never lose a round by being stunned or moved, which is the most annoying thing. 3) He works better with any group, because he doesn't need that much support as Tempest. He does everything he needs himself - but I do recommend to group up with Nightsworn, because speedy Repartee makes him even better tank.
I always use Jester with Leper in the group but nowadays i started using Vestal as well and Consecration of Light feels so good on him, giving him extra turns with Jester really makes Leper a great Chop spammer. Only downside is that i feel like my party is too heavily focused on him as a carry sometimes so if he gets CC-d or i can't reach the enemy, that kinda sucks. Great vid as always!
First and foremost, friendship with Monarch ended, Tempest Old King's Court (Jestal-MAA-LEP) gang rise up. Man, that's upsetting, I always thought 100% damage bonus overrides the regular decrease. Why would you run a situational +25% when there's a constant +33%? Not to mention Lair Bosses ain't considered Cosmic. Genuinely hope that's an ovelooked coding error by RedHook and not the intended behaviour, cause the latter is Yellowhand levels of stupid Disagree a tiny bit with Intimidate, new Sluice is spooky enough to sometimes warrant an upgrade + Wharf Rats also go into stealth. Not saying prioritizing Intimidate upgrade over, say, Solemnity is better, but it has its place depending on who you run with Baldwin, mostly (usually should be either a Tracking shot, Hearthlight or Illuminate alongside him to remove the need for upgrading). Considering how Ruin's +DMG buff tooltip is misleading ATM and only works for 3 turns instead of 1 Battle (Red Hook pls either fix description or make it 1 use battle-long), the best way to use Encore on leper is after he's used his natural 3rd turn, assuming you popped Ruin as Leper's very first action. This way, Ruin has already come off cooldown, but Ruin's buff didn't expire yet and thus gets a 6 turn duration with a second use. Got some dummy big damage that way on Denial locks before they remade Infernal torch being 1 flame at all times and Lurker got useless as a perk Also, off-topic question: do you know what's the base scouting chance is and does Childish Shamblino put it into negative values? Been wondeing if getting Unabridged Edition evens it out or not
actual tip not found in descriptions, you can use some items that target enemies to consume the blind instead of the blind removing item, way more useful. Also 2 weakness 1 vulnerable plus 2 taunt to self is not deadweight, he got corpse clear, he got a self heal to tank those taunts it's pretty good.
I’ve found that the lure trinket (can’t remember what it’s called) works well with Poet Leper for tanking. It often procs for me when I click intimidate for triple taunt with withstand active. And he takes basically no damage while drawing most of the aggro.
Occultist works pretty well with Leper for no other reason than pulling backline to the front and marking them all at once to just keep the chop machine going
You can even use Stars to apply combo to an extremely beefy frontliner like a boss to just pile on a buncha damage at once (as if Burning Stars wasn't cracked enough already💀).
Burning stars is so pushed that it singlehandedly turns occultist from fun but rng-fest character, to a fun rng-fest that can also just unexist the nearest annoyance.
This is a good guide to have an idea of how to play Leper, my only small complain about this is that you do not have access to all the skills right away (unlike in DD1 where you can purchase them) You have to go through the hero shrine until you get the skills you want or need for the set up
Im using HWM with Tracking Shot and its pretty gud, but haven't tried any other heroes yet Monarch Leper is good but you need to carry him to the end, when he becomes an absolute beast Long live the king
Watching this made me realize how in the current state of the game tanks are not very efficient outside road fights. There are so many aoes and multi turns per round that even with taunt you can't really tank all hits. Yes you consolidate damage somewhat but then it pushes you to heal the tank more often forcing two players (healer and tank) to not deal damage as a result.
Speaking of the Monarch path as “dead weight,” sure. But what’s to keep you from spending 32 relics just before the mountain region, assigning Monarch just when it’s most useful?
I've never used Ruin. It is terrible. You give up your turn worth 100% damage to gain 60% damage back over a few turns. What's the point. Yes you can get extra turn from Reverberating Redoubt, but that's 20% chance, so statistically you will get 1 turn, 2 if you're lucky. So you got back to 100% in optimistic scenario, congrats! How about locking some useful skill on the skillbar instead? What will you drop for Ruin? Encore might give you a turn, but that is minus 100% damage from Jester plus daze. And you need Jester to generate combos anyway. Unless you have the crit trinket, which is extremely niche, this skill is really poor in my opinion.
In the early access if you give ruin leper an extra turn to cast ruin a second time you can keep the buff from the previous ruin making him keep the buff for 6 turns.
So would flag be a strong teammate because with one of his paths he can take negative tokens from his teammates and then sepsis them onto others, plus he has stress heals, strong healing, and dots for strong dps support, plus taunt for when leper needs to heal
You dont need to clear his blind, its better bring people who give combo, especially if you get the trinket that gives you crit bonuses if youre blind.
I didn't realize the Monarch reduced damage for chop outside of cultist encounters. I really need to read these paths more carefully, I thought was low rolling every time
hay i notice that Leper might have this flesh eating sickness in germany we call it "Lepra". Miiiight be the cause of his non existent reistences....imean you can pull the flesh right off , poor guy
I love monarch leper, he's carried a few of my runs, and i completely disagree that he's dead weight in normal fights. He's still a great tank with health easily in the 40s or 50s with food, and the intimidate spam makes sure everyone is weakened and attacking him. Plus speed in cultist fights is great if you just know not to use slow trinkets on him
I agree. My dislike comes from my muscle memory needing to flip. I end up forgetting to use chop on cosmic first round or use chop on normies first round and feel like a colossal doofus.
My man Shuff disrespecting Break, how could you? I've been hitting like the 20s on Break through Block+, something which the rest of Leper's kit can't do. I mean, with how much more prevalent Block has become on Cultist fights compared to before, it's really important to chew through quickly for fast kills.
ive been using poet leper/examinate flag/grave robber/alchemist pd as a big dot team while leper spams withstand and bash to tank, its been doing really well
Just ran a GR - MAA - Flag - Leper combo just for fun but ended up killing all region bosses in one run ._. Currently at the mountain with this team but I have high hopes since this team turned antiquarian fight into a pillow slap from the pillagers. And there's extra mastery points i can't spend to add to that I just set up my leper so that there was no way he could get the blind token (about 98% debuff resist with the path and trinket choices, and more with reflection ofc) and oh, +10% extra crit chance. It's nice having a Leper slap a +/-50 DMG crit two turns in a row after Ruin
I had a Leper the other day with a couple of +dmg quirks, cultist trinket that gives +dmg for each negative token, he was chopping for 80+ dmg. Such a chad.
Humans are NOTORIOUSLY bad at percieving probability. That's why most games that have hidden mechanics to weight rng (ex.starting at a worse percentage but escalating chances after every miss to help consistency), or just having it on a cycle of every X hit, it procs.
I remember using Leper for the first time and thinking he was really bad compared to his DD1 version, but after putting him with a combo team (Runaway and Highwayman), he was a lot better and a lot of fun to use, despite the damage still being a bit underwhelming.
I always have the most fun with leper playing tempest and stacking up as much debuff resist as possible between trinkets and the slime pet. If you rarely have to worry about blindness tokens, he starts to feel like more than half of a character.
Leper's whole abysmal resistance thing feels like an unnecessary holdover from DD1. In fact of all the characters in DD2 I'd honestly say he's the one who is the most disserviced by faithfulness to the original.
Maniac Flag with Lepper is funny, Flag’s punish when upgraded inflicts Combo or if you don’t want to upgrade it, Lashes gift eats Lepper’s blinds which you can then Sepsis onto an enemy.
I owe my first clear of Denial to Leper. Got cultist trinket that gives 66% crit at the cost of constant blind. I had Jester on the team with Leper. 'nough said.
The team i run with leper is jester ocultist runaway and leper ocultist being able to get rid of corpses and get a backliner on front and putting a combo is perfect for leper
why is break a bad move? it seems like a great way to deal with armor. deal normal attack damage while removing all armor tokens, other options require a damage-less turn (like occ hex) or just doing partial damage to remove tokens one at a time.
@@ShuffleFM armors easy to ignore but i find negating it can rlly help damage efficiency, i see 3+ enemies per area with >1 armor tokens, would rather risk blind than be forced to have multiple attacks debuffed. Thanks for reply
Leper is not a dps nor will it ever be just because something has a high scaling damage attack does not make them DPS My leper is always the last to die and the first to take a hit.
My current 'slap team' is Vestal, Dismas, Jester, Leper with Dismas opening 90% fights with upgraded riposte move. Love em, got me through act two no problem currently slapping away act 3 in first try, mid way through.
Currently running that team myself. Although I think I prefer Doctor, Robber, Jester, Leper set up more after playing it. Grave robber's pirouette and corpse clearing by dead of night is so useful for keeping Leper constantly fighting Plague doctor for healing away blindness if I can't use Jester for whatever reason via stun, daze, etc along with DOT What's your Dismas set up? I'm finding that he keeps on pushing Leper out of position one by riposte. Leper gets pushed to position two, then Jester at position 3 activates due to high speed and then I have to make a decision to either advance and set up Finale while forgoing Leper turn, or I force the leper back in with battle ballad or encoring Dismas. It always feels like I'm giving up something.
@@HellecticMojo I put highway man at 3rd spot and start 99% of fights with the riposte move. Makes him go forward to 2nd, Jester takes 3rd. IF leper gets blind or every 3-4 turns Id do jesters melee that moves him forward and mark the target. Then Dismas is back in 3rd and ready for next riposte set up.
@@ShuffleFM i know bud. I just got around to watching the vid though...lol. haven't seen anyone mention yet but I guess you'd have to bank on getting that trinket with the comp already set up.
Ruin doesn't add up mathematically for me. So you lose 1 turn of dealing damage because you used ruin, which is equal to 100% of a dmg skill. And instead you get 3 turns +20% dmg which is in total 60% of extra dmg, which is less than the 100% if you'd just use a dmg skill instead. Did I miss something?
After learning leper's lore i can see why people see him as the "Chad" of darkest dungeon.
>Became a king that was kind to his people
>Caught a disease for being so nice
>Stopped an assassination attempt while alone and half-blind
>Refused to elaborate further
>Leaves, sent off by a parade of grateful citizens.
I doubt anyone could name a cooler backstory from this series, or, hell, even from other franchises.
@@aegisScale My man's only reason for being with the group of ragtag idiots is that he contracted an incurable disease, AND HE'S STILL ON THE BATTLEFIELD.
He's here for purely benevolent reasons.
The sweetest man you know is coming to murder your greatest failures and save the world, and all he asks is for you to point him to the thing so his big fuckoff sword doesn't hit the pavement.
@@aegisScalein DD1 comic strip, unlike other character's comics, his final shot has the white halo that's associated with being virtuous instead of the usual iron crown
@@aegisScale I can do you one better:
>Raised his potential heir to be just as based as himself
I use MAA's command to cure blindness and give attack to Leper, then use consecration of light for the attack and maybe crit.
How to play the leper: CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP CHOP
I like to pair leper with a maniac flagellant to steal debuffs as well as combo
Fog before Sunrise
Long live the Chad Leper
Monarch would be great if instead of +2 speed they gave +80% debuff resist.
Then the path would be useful.
Much like he said, I just can't convince myself that running an enemy specific path is a good idea, especially with the built-in negatives. Definitely agree with you, though.
@@travisunderwood7898 People sometimes argue that cosmic enemies are the only enemies that matter, but you still have to battle at least one region boss before coming to the mountain. And that is very difficult to do with a dead weight Leper. Can spam vulnerable with Intimidate on the Librarian (and take away the dodge tokens) for sure, but the rest are just too rough. I guess Leviathan wouldn't be so bad if the big guy took him instead of one of the others? I dunno.
@@masterblaster2678Here’s your solution: A, preferably DOT, team against the General. You can poke the Taproot with Intimidate, which’ll bait attacks to him. Don’t need to do that? Use Purge! It applies Vulnerable now, so it’ll help out other units!
Rot Squad (PD/GR/Flag/Leper) is fantastic. I actually beat Act 2 for the first time with it today. Go Blight, give it a shot.
Each of these class guides are gonna say "another great teammate for ___ is Man-at-Arms" because Man-at-Arms is insanely good
Some won't! MAAs guide might say he's good with anyone though lol
Because Man at Arms is the GOAT, the GOAT.
MaA decided he was done having his quality be _arguable._
Every team benefits from that one dude who can't fucking die.
@@chadhardt6136 specifically the one dude that doesn't die AND throws himself in front of you whenever the enemy DARES to think about hitting someone else.
Another Strength is that in his first reflection battle his ability is quite literally The Chad Stride.
i just started playing dd2, but my go to backline with leper is occultist. Demonic pull gives leper access to combo'd backline squishy enemies
This is affectionately called "feed the leper" lol. It's a really good strat.
@@ShuffleFM I remember this term from DD1 LMAO
yea, played "The Meatgrinder" (occ, jest, hwm, leper) a bit. great fun, though it was a bit of a struggle to maintain jester on pos3/4 for stress healing and keep the hwm alive on pos2. what does the rest of your comp look like?
@@dasZecke92 chop leper, 2nd rank occultist with range damage path, virtuoso jester, and the blight path plague doctor. Most fights is kill the back line, then deal with the front.
@@stevenmandziuk7733 nice, thanks. I think I'll try that, probably with healer path PD though
I always take "Break" in "The Tangle" vs the 2x armor soldiers, i think thats the best place for that ability.
I used it to get through part of the Ambition final boss where it gained block+ per turn, it really sped up the fight while giving me massive momentum.
I wish monarch gave him 100% ignore/resist blind when fighting cosmic enemies. Then he could effectively get the full value when he’s in a cosmic fight.
I love his Simple Flower Trinket against Leviathan. As Poet is pretty difficult to move so if the Hand keeps using Batter against him he becomes night unkillable.
Interesting. I find Break super useful in fights where enemies stack block and super block which makes my Chop hit about as hard as Break, except Chop would only take away one armor stack.
Biggest tip
Totally hidden mechanic means that Leper is guaranteed to get blind tokens any time you get crit or strength 😭
Real?
@@BassRukarioGuerrero no
@@awesomepork101 i cant confirm, but i think the self blind token got the -20% resist from the crits
@@anton28710 nope, crits only pierce DoT resists (yes, that means your crit daemon's pulls and weakening curses aren't actually helping)
Woah, thank you so much for the pace of uploads! You rock!
Been waiting a year to make these so I gotta do my best for y'all who stuck by me :)
I've only just unlocked all his skills, Leper either seems to be quite mediocre or with the right items/buffs pretty damn strong (e.g. critting 50-60's on the regular)
The trinket that gives +66% crit when you are blinded is pretty nuts on him, though most stained items are eh. Usually take stun or bleed resist.
2/10 game.
Can't use QuadLeper
Cleansing Clasp is also a good trinket on him, is usually guaranteed to take off the blind as you usually always have > 25 baubles
maniac flag seems to go well as you can just sap all the blind tokens amongst others and just put them on enemies instead
Be easy on the dude's low resists, he is a very sickly man
personally I think Leper should also ignore blind if he has a token of some sort, maybe this could be changed via a trinket, so a whole move/s isn't overbuffed.
For example one trinket could allow Leper to ignore blind if he has a strength token, but the downside to this trinket is that strength no longer increases his damage by 50% (and maybe have a second upside that makes combo tokens increase his damage by 50% instead :/)
Personally I think his combo consuming abilities should give him better crit, either through that trinket you mentioned or on mastery. That way it doesn't feel like you're wasting combo.
Leper is one of the coolest looking characters. I wonder what happened to the Abomination. Such a fucking cool idea and so well done on DD1. Anyone would know and would mind replying?
Don't know if you already covered this topic, but I would like to see a video where you talk about the gameplay differences between DD1 and DD2 and your opinion on them, such as campaign progression (such as 5 chapters instead of one big campaign and the carriage vs dungeon topic), characters and Hamlet/altar progression (difference between altar and Hamlet as permanent upgrades and how you unlock new abilities and upgrades for heroes) and core combat ( such as removal of dodge, acc and prot in exchange of tokens and combo, enemies deathblow resist and more corpses interactions) and maybe other stuff like trinkets and enemies combat design.
You certainly see all the time people saying how bad DD2 is compared to the first game, but the truth is that it is a very different yet familiar structure and gameplay, and the combat feels weirdly much more complex and simple (or straight forward) at the same time.
I really like the difference between the 2 games, and I don't think any is superior than the other, both are enjoyable with different but familiar structures and design, but I would like to see your opinion on it and see what people think of this topic
The best change from DD1 to this is the fact that he doesn't T pose anymore when hit, that was always so strange lol
Hard disagree. Chad Leper shows his dominance to the weak enemies by T-posing when hit.
@@zer0stars okay nevermind you are right lmao
That's him welcoming the hit or just straight up letting himself get hit since the disease lowers his ability to feel pain.
@@LucarioDoTlowers if not outright removes the ability to feel pain. This is actually the main reason why those with leprosy lose limbs. They get infects because the afflicted has no idea they even got a bad cut or whatever. Judging by his skin he probably doesn't feel any pain, and going by his kit you're right that the dude is just willing to take hits from his enemies that he knows his teammates can't
In my last run i had a Tempest Leper with Cruel Intent and a combo based team and it was so much fun. Long live King Baldwin.
The pain train
Hello Shuffle FM just wanted to tell you that the 3 Boss got reworked and your guide with the taunt no longer works.
I think a new one would be great contend.
Thank your for all the great videos.
You made my return to playing DD way more fun, your altar of hope and the Hero best build guide was super helpful..
Why would you prefer to take Runaway over Plague Doctor? Asking out of curiosity I just started playing
I don’t know if I’m crazy, but it seems like chop/hew doesn’t consume the combo token if the leper manages to resist the blinding effect, or it could be that he wasn’t blinded when the attack lands. It’s a nice little thing to have even if the blinding chance are still quite high even with upgrades
You probably confirmed it by now, but yes if the leper is not currently blinded he won't consume combo tokens.
I'm late to commenting on this but just in case, Ruin+'s bleed doesn't get nullified by bodkin afaik, so you can use Ruin+ with bodkin just fine (it has a pretty good synergy since it'll nullify/reduce other incoming bleeds while giving you extra actions from Ruin+)
Had a fun run where i built around my jester largely, runaways smokebomb was a carry since i could ignore blinds and when i couldn't id just lasha's gift with flag, worked well enough but far from a meta build
Wow i never realized movement resist was so bad in dd2. 30 seems to be the max across all characters without paths. I wouldn't actually call his bad because he upgrades later to normal move resist.
One run i had a Lethal Feint Leper with Calibrating Censer so i would just have him miss one round, get crit and strength, and every time i readied up another chop, my mind would always provide the sound of a gun cocking as he lifts his arm up
where did you get the crit from?
@@BankruptGreek lethal feint gives a critical token on miss
I might be weird, but I prefer Poet path over Tempest, and for these reasons: 1) Poet can tank, self heal and stress heal incredibly effectively - I mean, you almost never attack (I don't count Intimidate), but he's close to immortal and the rest of the group can chill out and even the healers and stress healers can focus more on dmg. 2) You almost never lose a round by being stunned or moved, which is the most annoying thing. 3) He works better with any group, because he doesn't need that much support as Tempest. He does everything he needs himself - but I do recommend to group up with Nightsworn, because speedy Repartee makes him even better tank.
I always use Jester with Leper in the group but nowadays i started using Vestal as well and Consecration of Light feels so good on him, giving him extra turns with Jester really makes Leper a great Chop spammer. Only downside is that i feel like my party is too heavily focused on him as a carry sometimes so if he gets CC-d or i can't reach the enemy, that kinda sucks. Great vid as always!
First and foremost, friendship with Monarch ended, Tempest Old King's Court (Jestal-MAA-LEP) gang rise up. Man, that's upsetting, I always thought 100% damage bonus overrides the regular decrease. Why would you run a situational +25% when there's a constant +33%? Not to mention Lair Bosses ain't considered Cosmic. Genuinely hope that's an ovelooked coding error by RedHook and not the intended behaviour, cause the latter is Yellowhand levels of stupid
Disagree a tiny bit with Intimidate, new Sluice is spooky enough to sometimes warrant an upgrade + Wharf Rats also go into stealth. Not saying prioritizing Intimidate upgrade over, say, Solemnity is better, but it has its place depending on who you run with Baldwin, mostly (usually should be either a Tracking shot, Hearthlight or Illuminate alongside him to remove the need for upgrading).
Considering how Ruin's +DMG buff tooltip is misleading ATM and only works for 3 turns instead of 1 Battle (Red Hook pls either fix description or make it 1 use battle-long), the best way to use Encore on leper is after he's used his natural 3rd turn, assuming you popped Ruin as Leper's very first action. This way, Ruin has already come off cooldown, but Ruin's buff didn't expire yet and thus gets a 6 turn duration with a second use. Got some dummy big damage that way on Denial locks before they remade Infernal torch being 1 flame at all times and Lurker got useless as a perk
Also, off-topic question: do you know what's the base scouting chance is and does Childish Shamblino put it into negative values? Been wondeing if getting Unabridged Edition evens it out or not
Unabridged specifically negates Shambly's downside. So it returns you to base scout chance.
@@josh___something Ayy nice, thanks
actual tip not found in descriptions, you can use some items that target enemies to consume the blind instead of the blind removing item, way more useful.
Also 2 weakness 1 vulnerable plus 2 taunt to self is not deadweight, he got corpse clear, he got a self heal to tank those taunts it's pretty good.
I’ve found that the lure trinket (can’t remember what it’s called) works well with Poet Leper for tanking. It often procs for me when I click intimidate for triple taunt with withstand active. And he takes basically no damage while drawing most of the aggro.
Occultist works pretty well with Leper for no other reason than pulling backline to the front and marking them all at once to just keep the chop machine going
You can even use Stars to apply combo to an extremely beefy frontliner like a boss to just pile on a buncha damage at once (as if Burning Stars wasn't cracked enough already💀).
Burning stars is so pushed that it singlehandedly turns occultist from fun but rng-fest character, to a fun rng-fest that can also just unexist the nearest annoyance.
This is a good guide to have an idea of how to play Leper, my only small complain about this is that you do not have access to all the skills right away (unlike in DD1 where you can purchase them)
You have to go through the hero shrine until you get the skills you want or need for the set up
luckily, half the skills you want to keep already are unlocked
Im using HWM with Tracking Shot and its pretty gud, but haven't tried any other heroes yet
Monarch Leper is good but you need to carry him to the end, when he becomes an absolute beast
Long live the king
Watching this made me realize how in the current state of the game tanks are not very efficient outside road fights. There are so many aoes and multi turns per round that even with taunt you can't really tank all hits. Yes you consolidate damage somewhat but then it pushes you to heal the tank more often forcing two players (healer and tank) to not deal damage as a result.
Hoping for vestal soon, her bonk setup seems kinda crazy on paper
Speaking of the Monarch path as “dead weight,” sure. But what’s to keep you from spending 32 relics just before the mountain region, assigning Monarch just when it’s most useful?
I've never used Ruin. It is terrible. You give up your turn worth 100% damage to gain 60% damage back over a few turns. What's the point. Yes you can get extra turn from Reverberating Redoubt, but that's 20% chance, so statistically you will get 1 turn, 2 if you're lucky. So you got back to 100% in optimistic scenario, congrats! How about locking some useful skill on the skillbar instead? What will you drop for Ruin? Encore might give you a turn, but that is minus 100% damage from Jester plus daze. And you need Jester to generate combos anyway. Unless you have the crit trinket, which is extremely niche, this skill is really poor in my opinion.
In the early access if you give ruin leper an extra turn to cast ruin a second time you can keep the buff from the previous ruin making him keep the buff for 6 turns.
So would flag be a strong teammate because with one of his paths he can take negative tokens from his teammates and then sepsis them onto others, plus he has stress heals, strong healing, and dots for strong dps support, plus taunt for when leper needs to heal
Oh yes definitely. Shuff said this too on stream, don't know why it didn't make it into the video though.
One neat little pairing I found is Leper and Occultist.
My favorite combo is demon's pull into chop.
You dont need to clear his blind, its better bring people who give combo, especially if you get the trinket that gives you crit bonuses if youre blind.
I didn't realize the Monarch reduced damage for chop outside of cultist encounters. I really need to read these paths more carefully, I thought was low rolling every time
I don't get it why people taking him in party, when I pick Leper, game wins automatically.
hay i notice that Leper might have this flesh eating sickness in germany we call it "Lepra". Miiiight be the cause of his non existent reistences....imean you can pull the flesh right off , poor guy
I love leper ngl, i think my highest hit with him was 79 crit i believe, so satisfying
I love monarch leper, he's carried a few of my runs, and i completely disagree that he's dead weight in normal fights. He's still a great tank with health easily in the 40s or 50s with food, and the intimidate spam makes sure everyone is weakened and attacking him. Plus speed in cultist fights is great if you just know not to use slow trinkets on him
I agree. My dislike comes from my muscle memory needing to flip. I end up forgetting to use chop on cosmic first round or use chop on normies first round and feel like a colossal doofus.
sraph vestal and any occultist
make him a powerhouse
Good to see Leper is no longer "chop + solemnity" the character lol
One time I got a trait where he loses all debuff tokens at the start of a turn if I have 25 relics
one of m'y favorite teams so far is chopp lepper upfront, riposte man at arms, then maniac flagellant and guard vestal in the back
My man Shuff disrespecting Break, how could you? I've been hitting like the 20s on Break through Block+, something which the rest of Leper's kit can't do. I mean, with how much more prevalent Block has become on Cultist fights compared to before, it's really important to chew through quickly for fast kills.
Long live Baldwin IV the Leper King!!
Chadwin Posehard is my favorite character in the Darkest Dungeon games.
The only correct way to use him is Ruin, Withstand, then enjoy doing 50 damage chop
Seems like Monarch is a great commander.
the legend of chad thundercock continues
Me running damage poet whenever i use leper
The Chad, the KING, THE MAN!
ive been using poet leper/examinate flag/grave robber/alchemist pd as a big dot team while leper spams withstand and bash to tank, its been doing really well
Grave Robber- Surgeon PD - Runaway - Leper here. Rainbow DOTs everywhere. Absolutely massacred the first act boss.
I used this team for the Grand Slam Achievement. 10/10. Highly reccomended
Привет я желаю тибе щастя ты харашо снимаиш
2 daze become a stun!?
I'm very fond of using Occultist with Leper. Debuff and combo enemies, yank squishy backliners forward for Leper to chop.
Just ran a GR - MAA - Flag - Leper combo just for fun but ended up killing all region bosses in one run ._. Currently at the mountain with this team but I have high hopes since this team turned antiquarian fight into a pillow slap from the pillagers. And there's extra mastery points i can't spend to add to that
I just set up my leper so that there was no way he could get the blind token (about 98% debuff resist with the path and trinket choices, and more with reflection ofc) and oh, +10% extra crit chance. It's nice having a Leper slap a +/-50 DMG crit two turns in a row after Ruin
Hail to the king!
I had a Leper the other day with a couple of +dmg quirks, cultist trinket that gives +dmg for each negative token, he was chopping for 80+ dmg. Such a chad.
I swear this game lies about the 50/50 hit chance when blinded. I love the leper but damn does he miss at the worst of times.
Humans are NOTORIOUSLY bad at percieving probability. That's why most games that have hidden mechanics to weight rng (ex.starting at a worse percentage but escalating chances after every miss to help consistency), or just having it on a cycle of every X hit, it procs.
I remember using Leper for the first time and thinking he was really bad compared to his DD1 version, but after putting him with a combo team (Runaway and Highwayman), he was a lot better and a lot of fun to use, despite the damage still being a bit underwhelming.
I always have the most fun with leper playing tempest and stacking up as much debuff resist as possible between trinkets and the slime pet. If you rarely have to worry about blindness tokens, he starts to feel like more than half of a character.
Leper's whole abysmal resistance thing feels like an unnecessary holdover from DD1. In fact of all the characters in DD2 I'd honestly say he's the one who is the most disserviced by faithfulness to the original.
Maniac Flag with Lepper is funny, Flag’s punish when upgraded inflicts Combo or if you don’t want to upgrade it, Lashes gift eats Lepper’s blinds which you can then Sepsis onto an enemy.
After 1.0 and changes to cultists break is now actually really good, you should try it
Poet is spamming bash mpnarch still sucks
I hope next video with Highwayman and You it will be just 10 second video with telling you to pick Sharpshoot and spam take aim with pistol shot lol.
On blind I typically just pop Ruin for that turn. I typically run Vestal, Jester, Runaway, and Chad.
I owe my first clear of Denial to Leper. Got cultist trinket that gives 66% crit at the cost of constant blind. I had Jester on the team with Leper. 'nough said.
I really like running Maniac Flagellant with him and just removing his Blind with Lash's Gift.
Occultist I feel is also good with leper because he can mark enemies and also debuff them with weakness and the 50%more damage.
I literally had no idea 2 dazes caused stunned, now with this newfound knowledge, I can actually play the game.
Honestly, my hot take is that there is never a reason to NOT have Solemnity. It's just SO good.
I run from back to front grave robber, plauge doctor, highwayman, and leper
The team i run with leper is jester ocultist runaway and leper
ocultist being able to get rid of corpses and get a backliner on front and putting a combo is perfect for leper
Leper :)
Make vids like this for every character right now please. Thanks I’ll wait
I clearly have not indoctrinated you enough into Monarch, I understand the new task.
Leper w/ MaA, Runaway, and Jester actually sounds really fun
why is break a bad move? it seems like a great way to deal with armor. deal normal attack damage while removing all armor tokens, other options require a damage-less turn (like occ hex) or just doing partial damage to remove tokens one at a time.
Self blind to remove armor when there aren't too many instances of it being critically important
@@ShuffleFM armors easy to ignore but i find negating it can rlly help damage efficiency, i see 3+ enemies per area with >1 armor tokens, would rather risk blind than be forced to have multiple attacks debuffed. Thanks for reply
Leper clutch 80 dmg with chop is the most beatiful thing i've seen in this game
What´s with the little skull icons over some of the characters at the bottom?
Can he resist his own blind? If yes how does it work? if i upgrade chop and give him 60%+ debuff resistance does this mean he can't blind himself?
He can resist it. It's a normal debuff resist check, so 100-resist
@@ShuffleFM Thanks!
Leper is not a dps nor will it ever be just because something has a high scaling damage attack does not make them DPS My leper is always the last to die and the first to take a hit.
Just because he has good self sufficiency doesn't mean he isn't a damage unit too lol.
Never said he didnt do damage what is said is he is not a DPS that is not his best use. Just because you can doesnt mean you should...
My current 'slap team' is Vestal, Dismas, Jester, Leper with Dismas opening 90% fights with upgraded riposte move. Love em, got me through act two no problem currently slapping away act 3 in first try, mid way through.
Currently running that team myself. Although I think I prefer Doctor, Robber, Jester, Leper set up more after playing it.
Grave robber's pirouette and corpse clearing by dead of night is so useful for keeping Leper constantly fighting
Plague doctor for healing away blindness if I can't use Jester for whatever reason via stun, daze, etc along with DOT
What's your Dismas set up? I'm finding that he keeps on pushing Leper out of position one by riposte.
Leper gets pushed to position two, then Jester at position 3 activates due to high speed and then I have to make a decision to either advance and set up Finale while forgoing Leper turn, or I force the leper back in with battle ballad or encoring Dismas.
It always feels like I'm giving up something.
@@HellecticMojo I put highway man at 3rd spot and start 99% of fights with the riposte move. Makes him go forward to 2nd, Jester takes 3rd. IF leper gets blind or every 3-4 turns Id do jesters melee that moves him forward and mark the target. Then Dismas is back in 3rd and ready for next riposte set up.
Been wanting to run cruel intentionally leper with duelist ignore blind skill. Seems more consistent than combo
Duelist didn't exist when I made this :P
@@ShuffleFM i know bud. I just got around to watching the vid though...lol. haven't seen anyone mention yet but I guess you'd have to bank on getting that trinket with the comp already set up.
Ruin doesn't add up mathematically for me. So you lose 1 turn of dealing damage because you used ruin, which is equal to 100% of a dmg skill. And instead you get 3 turns +20% dmg which is in total 60% of extra dmg, which is less than the 100% if you'd just use a dmg skill instead. Did I miss something?
He can get hit multiple times and charge it. Ruin+ also bleeds him to stack it higher. It can get to 100% or high during 1 use
I just use the milk soaked linen for leper works like a charm