Yes! Also the power consumption and the replacement of thermal paste. May sound petty, but companies also charge you consumption and operating costs + calculation. Nobody complains about that either. For him too, none of this, just falls out of the sky.
I was surprised he didn't charge for the third gpu. If it were here in Brazil, I believe it would have been different! Honesty and generosity are rare these days.
With the Vega 64, it might have been overheating and just needed repasting. Those reference models benefited from having washers put in between all of the pressure screws to give the GPU/HBM better contact. I had constant overheating issues with my 2x MSI Vega 64 reference models (they'd turn on and then shut off the entire PC during boot) before taking GamersNexus' advice to add the washers to add more contact pressure. After that, I had no issues, and just applied a bit more aggressive fan curb to keep the GPU's nice and cool.
the rx470 miner edition its from the panda miner custom miners sell on their own page as you could see theres no real bios for it but you can edit it manually with some hex editor or bios editor making things short gigabyte bios are the mose commun to fit and the board its the same as the reference one, well if i can help i have some bios i use to fix the same problem on the same gpus from acustomer that had 10 of these cards
I had a Quad BIOS mining RX 470, "AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher" would patch the Radeon drivers to work with a mining BIOS and fix Error 43 problem. But a good bios is always a better option.
Please do a livestream once in a while. It will boost your channel, we'll see your thought process from beginning to end and you'll make a few bucks on the side.
In the future, plug in an RX400, 500 series, Vega, 5000 series and use ATIflash to flash the bios. This is common for miners to flash the bios and undervolt to save power during mining. You don't need to de solder the bios chip. I have done it many times, and the utility is really easy to use. Hope that helps! Oh, almost forgot, a lot of those AMD bioses have an auto backup internally. If you short two of the pins while on, it will restore automatically the original bios. I bricked an RX470, and brought it back to life like that (no dip switches, I had to solder the wire to two pins on the bios). Also, I believe the HBM starts to strip from the substrait on those Vega cards over time. This will cause the no posts, which eventually leads to error code 43. I have a card that still works, and after plugging and unplugging the card several times, it will come back to life, and the HDMI will work again. BTW... I use to mine. haha :)
Another excellent video sir. You are an inspiration to many people hoping to get into eletronics repair. Is there any chance you will mess with the mining card again for a second attempt at fixing it? Doesn't matter how many times I watch these videos, it's insane how you can solder things that small and precisely. My shaky hands would never allow anything close to that.
I need correct bios. This card was offered as a donor so i have no good reason to sit for hours trying every bios in the world. I didnt even take the card, sent it back along side with the other 2 because its not worth much these days anyway.
That transition from the benchmark to your workstation was very smooth. I was like ive never seen that part. Then the realization hit me ypu cut scenes.😂 Great job as usual. You are the graphics card whisperer!
I flash the gpu card bios spi IC use CH341A but with a special technique because the diffrent rom and bin files, so I manually convert the rom file into bin file first which is adjusted to the capacity of the spi IC then finally it works good.
the original bios from 1st green card with passive cooler maybe is just fine. Big number off % code 43 come from rx 460/560/470/480/570/580 who have modded memory timing straps. Adrenalin driver won't work with them. SO you need : 1. install driver ; 2 start atikmdag-patcher-1.4.5. ; 3- restart windows. (in normal situation after all be good). I hope you didn't delete the "original bios". 215 ohm from 3,3v low (2,1k ohm normal) but for some card are ok if isn't = dead core . edit 2 Watched 2nd time. the memory test PASS so core & mem are OK. Im sure 99% is driver issue (need atikmdag patch & blockchain drivers)
Fun and informative videos to watch, i was wondering though about the tool that you have on the right, right beside the tooth brush ? a link maybe, coz watching your videos it seems like a versatile tool
it would be great if you can do a tear down video of Inno3d rtx 3060, as this card is the cheapest 3060 from where i live and after watching your several videos, i'm starting to get skeptical why this card is cheaper than the rest 😄
I'm trying to repair my no detect vega64 that has no shorts that i can find... I'm missing the power good signal but in the schematics and board view i can't understand which component generates it... Do you know if it's a part of the phase controller IC or it justs feeds power good signal to it? Thank you in advance man, your videos and drive files have helped me a ton ^^ I lend the card to a friend for benchmarking and he messed with an EVC, maybe the controller is fried :/ Or maybe the EVC actually programs the controller and somehow it got blanked out?
It's pretty common on those old Polaris cards to flash the BIOS to get a constant configuration for mining.. but like... why not use ATIFlash BIOS flashing tool instead of removing the BIOS chip? It's pretty easy to flash BIOS on AMD to different brands, etc using ATIFlash.
thats how i did it. Found a miner and he sold me a bunch of the same cards. Made it easier to learn because all card were the same and i could compare.
well it would require a lot of practice, tht is one thing but when it comes to these cards they use extremely small smd parts and the memory and the gpu are BGA, so you probably need a lot of soldering/ hot air practice, it looks way easy in the vides but it isn't thats what 7 years of soldering taught me, and thinks sometimes go south, like ripped pads etc
Howdy, just don’t get caught up in a copyright lockout. Last one I’m working on , xfx Rx 470/480 4gb/8gb the chip is to fast for the ram so it pulls it out of timing. SkHynix ram still finishing up but full dead chip with wax damage recovered.
@@northwestrepair when I modified the chip so much it didnt register the same so it was internally DIFFERENT enough to hash raster and time return with numbers they didnt under stand HA HA HA
Ive had lots of experience flashing AMD bios as well as Nvidia bios and im just wondering why you dont use the software thats available on guru3d? All you need is to have an igpu or a primary gpu to connect to your monitor and flash it using the software. I've had a 100% success rate when flashing compatible bioses (same brand same everything just different version) and 80% success in vendor bios swaps (gigabyte bios to sapphire) For nvidia its a bit harder since It doesn't have a gui but ive fixed a corrupt bios gtx 660 and given that to my friend.
Hello Sir, what do you think will be the problem with an rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming that fan not spin while pc running, fan only spins a few seconds when pc start but after that not spinning at all
first off, I LOVE your content!! was wondering if you could point me in the right direction to buy new thermal pads for my asus 1080ti so i can mod and add the pads like your Does ASUS make good graphics cards? Part 1 video or if you sell them yourself. I want to try to get as much life out of my card because I just do NOT have the money to replace it if it dies nor even find a car for that matter. please if you or anyone knows were to buy the correct pads and were I should mod/ass some pads would me so helpful. if my card kicks the bucket, I'm in some serious trouble
The replacemente core for a modern gpu may take up to more than 90% of the retail price. It's not worth at all to change it, plus you gotta be some kind of surgeon to make it nicely.
Not bad. I am actually very surprised how simple yet ow effective cooling was. But this is old card with large heatsink so it does not do much justice.
I have that exact same Sapphire RX 580 and it's a pretty decent card for its age. I bought some new pads and I will eventually change them and add some fresh paste. The pads are .75 mm thick which are near impossible to find so it was recommended to use 1 mm but only Gelid Extreme because they are soft enough to squish down and not prevent the GPU from contacting the heat sink. Some people have also had success with using .5 mm pads as well, but I am afraid that the wrong ones might stop the VRMs' from making contact with the heat sink. Maybe I may just play it safe and use the original pads for now and just change the paste if they still look good and I feel "chicken." 🤔😁
Which ISOs/tools do you recommend for testing different cards? I just received 5 old AMD R9 350 gpus from ebay and want to test them to make sure they work and are legit. GPU-Z says this one is an R9 350 with 2GB of GDDR5, but when I click "lookup" the site says it's an R7 250 with 1GB of DDR3. How can I tell which one is correct? Thanks!!!
@@northwestrepair I write the new bios but it is the same, i runned a memory test and give me an error on ch:1, rank:0, bit:31. Now i dont know wich one is it on the board.
To me "No charge" is unfair. You did spend some time on it. A small charge for a basic diagnostic is fair. After all the customer believed something was wrong and you did more than a basic check over and re pasting.
@@northwestrepair Yes i talking about mining card. don't get me wrong, I admire your work,such skills and knowledge are not seen every day, but we can all make a mistake. my opinion that is better to flash corrctly bios first than test the memory. Best regards and keep up good work!
@@SGresponse when is custom bios flashed, with mining timings for memory, it can easily happen that memory test fail! that's why I say it's better to do the test with the original bios! I'm not just talking about this case, but otherwise when it comes to amd cards…someone who had over 100 amd cards in rigs knows what he's talking about…but there will always be smartass like you
the windows with tose display driver didnt see properly graphic so gpu-z can't read to. He made a little mistake (maybe). Needed to save bios with atiflash(or atiwinflash who work with polaris) & read with polaris bioseditor (eg) not from gpu-z..
I was going to comment to ask why Vega cores die so much and two sentences later you answered it. That's a strange design... Thinking about it, hopefully, the same does not happen with the 5800X3D CPUs!
I didnt have this model but I had an msi airboost vega 56 and on the factory clock speeds it would overheat and crash. Very poor design I ended up having to undervolt it to get it to run right.
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Very generous doing a "no fix no fee" for the person who wasted your time with the fully functional V64.
Yes! Also the power consumption and the replacement of thermal paste.
May sound petty, but companies also charge you consumption and operating costs + calculation.
Nobody complains about that either.
For him too, none of this, just falls out of the sky.
I was surprised he didn't charge for the third gpu. If it were here in Brazil, I believe it would have been different! Honesty and generosity are rare these days.
With the Vega 64, it might have been overheating and just needed repasting. Those reference models benefited from having washers put in between all of the pressure screws to give the GPU/HBM better contact.
I had constant overheating issues with my 2x MSI Vega 64 reference models (they'd turn on and then shut off the entire PC during boot) before taking GamersNexus' advice to add the washers to add more contact pressure. After that, I had no issues, and just applied a bit more aggressive fan curb to keep the GPU's nice and cool.
I have learned something new today. Thank you for the video.
My pleasure!
This man is a living legend blessing us with knowledge and entertainment. Keep up these interesting videos, they are appreciated!
the rx470 miner edition its from the panda miner custom miners sell on their own page as you could see theres no real bios for it but you can edit it manually with some hex editor or bios editor making things short gigabyte bios are the mose commun to fit and the board its the same as the reference one, well if i can help i have some bios i use to fix the same problem on the same gpus from acustomer that had 10 of these cards
If you have bios for this card, send it to me and i will flash it.
Have you sent the BIOS?
thank you for info! Double thanks if you can email the bios to Tony! :)
I had a Quad BIOS mining RX 470, "AMD/ATI Pixel Clock Patcher" would patch the Radeon drivers to work with a mining BIOS and fix Error 43 problem.
But a good bios is always a better option.
Please do a livestream once in a while. It will boost your channel, we'll see your thought process from beginning to end and you'll make a few bucks on the side.
wow 2 cards were ok..im glad. which every gamer needs that..thank you for the vids northwestrepair
In the future, plug in an RX400, 500 series, Vega, 5000 series and use ATIflash to flash the bios. This is common for miners to flash the bios and undervolt to save power during mining. You don't need to de solder the bios chip. I have done it many times, and the utility is really easy to use. Hope that helps! Oh, almost forgot, a lot of those AMD bioses have an auto backup internally. If you short two of the pins while on, it will restore automatically the original bios. I bricked an RX470, and brought it back to life like that (no dip switches, I had to solder the wire to two pins on the bios). Also, I believe the HBM starts to strip from the substrait on those Vega cards over time. This will cause the no posts, which eventually leads to error code 43. I have a card that still works, and after plugging and unplugging the card several times, it will come back to life, and the HDMI will work again. BTW... I use to mine. haha :)
i dont want to use ATI flash because it requires to boot into windows to use it.
Its faster to flash to the chip.
@@northwestrepair you can use the uefi version or even dos version
@@crusifficadus I use DOS version myself. Pins 1 and 5 are the pins to jumper on the bios to get it to reset to factory. ;)
Another excellent video sir. You are an inspiration to many people hoping to get into eletronics repair. Is there any chance you will mess with the mining card again for a second attempt at fixing it? Doesn't matter how many times I watch these videos, it's insane how you can solder things that small and precisely. My shaky hands would never allow anything close to that.
I need correct bios. This card was offered as a donor so i have no good reason to sit for hours trying every bios in the world.
I didnt even take the card, sent it back along side with the other 2 because its not worth much these days anyway.
@@northwestrepair always check for irregular bios chip brands and even weird pcb layouts could be sold prototypes devs ARE NOT SUPPOST TO SELL.. ty
Ok, I see ... that capacitor on the 580 looked to be on the first PCIE lane.
Your videos are very infomative. Good luck !
This channel is going to grow a lot more, mark my words!
That transition from the benchmark to your workstation was very smooth. I was like ive never seen that part. Then the realization hit me ypu cut scenes.😂 Great job as usual. You are the graphics card whisperer!
Ahhhhhh, nothing beats northwestrepair's video before going to bed. 😅
Three for one? You're spoiling us! 😁👍
Is nobody gonna say nothing about how that Vega 64 processor setup looks like a modern delidded 5950x cpu?
Excellent job (and video ) as always
I flash the gpu card bios spi IC use CH341A but with a special technique because the diffrent rom and bin files, so I manually convert the rom file into bin file first which is adjusted to the capacity of the spi IC then finally it works good.
I would love it if you commented your thoughts on why memory fails.
it just does
the original bios from 1st green card with passive cooler maybe is just fine. Big number off % code 43 come from rx 460/560/470/480/570/580 who have modded memory timing straps. Adrenalin driver won't work with them. SO you need : 1. install driver ; 2 start atikmdag-patcher-1.4.5. ; 3- restart windows. (in normal situation after all be good). I hope you didn't delete the "original bios".
215 ohm from 3,3v low (2,1k ohm normal) but for some card are ok if isn't = dead core .
edit 2
Watched 2nd time. the memory test PASS so core & mem are OK. Im sure 99% is driver issue (need atikmdag patch & blockchain drivers)
Fun and informative videos to watch, i was wondering though about the tool that you have on the right, right beside the tooth brush ? a link maybe, coz watching your videos it seems like a versatile tool
What tool ? Am not so sure.
@@northwestrepair the metal thing, i guess dentists use it
The chip has a grey color ish material . If it turns brownish orange that’s wax damage and vent to substrate
i learned that we should take a backup for the VBIOS before we flash another one :D :D :D :D
...wait, i can only count to 3.....epic:))). It's first time for me to see you repair an AMD graphics card, i thought you repair only Nvidia GPU's.
it would be great if you can do a tear down video of Inno3d rtx 3060, as this card is the cheapest 3060 from where i live and after watching your several videos, i'm starting to get skeptical why this card is cheaper than the rest 😄
I'm trying to repair my no detect vega64 that has no shorts that i can find... I'm missing the power good signal but in the schematics and board view i can't understand which component generates it... Do you know if it's a part of the phase controller IC or it justs feeds power good signal to it? Thank you in advance man, your videos and drive files have helped me a ton ^^ I lend the card to a friend for benchmarking and he messed with an EVC, maybe the controller is fried :/ Or maybe the EVC actually programs the controller and somehow it got blanked out?
hello sir what are linux are you using, what function withe the linux for checking the GPU? thanks
It's pretty common on those old Polaris cards to flash the BIOS to get a constant configuration for mining.. but like... why not use ATIFlash BIOS flashing tool instead of removing the BIOS chip? It's pretty easy to flash BIOS on AMD to different brands, etc using ATIFlash.
And if I cant boot, how do I use the utility ?
love your videos
Thanks !
Im so interested about those old cards!
Top dog. Love your videos
Thanks.
why couldnt you flash the bios via DOS?
Because its more time consuming to switch to built in graphics to reflash is if bios would not work.
Excellent work, recently i saved one xfx rx480 gtr from ewaste which has a slight artifacts problem. What is tserver and where do i get it?
i have it in my discord server
How would you recommend to start learning this? Just buy a broken GPU and use it for practice?
thats how i did it.
Found a miner and he sold me a bunch of the same cards. Made it easier to learn because all card were the same and i could compare.
Practice soldering first. There are DIY electronics kit with through hole components. Once you're good with those you can move on with SMD and hot air
well it would require a lot of practice, tht is one thing but when it comes to these cards they use extremely small smd parts and the memory and the gpu are BGA, so you probably need a lot of soldering/ hot air practice, it looks way easy in the vides but it isn't thats what 7 years of soldering taught me, and thinks sometimes go south, like ripped pads etc
Howdy, just don’t get caught up in a copyright lockout. Last one I’m working on , xfx Rx 470/480 4gb/8gb the chip is to fast for the ram so it pulls it out of timing. SkHynix ram still finishing up but full dead chip with wax damage recovered.
copyright lockout how ?
@@northwestrepair when I modified the chip so much it didnt register the same so it was internally DIFFERENT enough to hash raster and time return with numbers they didnt under stand HA HA HA
Ive had lots of experience flashing AMD bios as well as Nvidia bios and im just wondering why you dont use the software thats available on guru3d?
All you need is to have an igpu or a primary gpu to connect to your monitor and flash it using the software.
I've had a 100% success rate when flashing compatible bioses (same brand same everything just different version) and 80% success in vendor bios swaps (gigabyte bios to sapphire)
For nvidia its a bit harder since It doesn't have a gui but ive fixed a corrupt bios gtx 660 and given that to my friend.
What was your impression of the Sapphire model in terms of its cooling design and overall quality?
Team Rocket is booting up again!...
Hello Sir, what do you think will be the problem with an rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming that fan not spin while pc running, fan only spins a few seconds when pc start but after that not spinning at all
first off, I LOVE your content!!
was wondering if you could point me in the right direction to buy new thermal pads for my asus 1080ti so i can mod and add the pads like your
Does ASUS make good graphics cards? Part 1 video or if you sell them yourself. I want to try to get as much life out of my card because I just do NOT have the money to replace it if it dies nor even find a car for that matter. please if you or anyone knows were to buy the correct pads and were I should mod/ass some pads would me so helpful. if my card kicks the bucket, I'm in some serious trouble
i like odyssey
TY So much for showing the music!!!!!!
How difficult is it to find a Vega 64 core to replace any defective ones?
nearly impossible
The replacemente core for a modern gpu may take up to more than 90% of the retail price. It's not worth at all to change it, plus you gotta be some kind of surgeon to make it nicely.
I have a Sapphire Liquid Cooled Vega 64 and I would like to change thermal pads. Do you know the proper height or how hard/soft they should be?
Pads thickness can be found on my discord resources page .
Hardness is not something you chose, it's a brand thing.
@@northwestrepair Unfortunately, you don't have any for my model. Thanks anyways.
What do you think about Sapphire's build quality?
Not bad. I am actually very surprised how simple yet ow effective cooling was.
But this is old card with large heatsink so it does not do much justice.
I have that exact same Sapphire RX 580 and it's a pretty decent card for its age. I bought some new pads and I will eventually change them and add some fresh paste. The pads are .75 mm thick which are near impossible to find so it was recommended to use 1 mm but only Gelid Extreme because they are soft enough to squish down and not prevent the GPU from contacting the heat sink. Some people have also had success with using .5 mm pads as well, but I am afraid that the wrong ones might stop the VRMs' from making contact with the heat sink. Maybe I may just play it safe and use the original pads for now and just change the paste if they still look good and I feel "chicken." 🤔😁
I truly enjoy your program. It is so relaxing and informative, thanks.
See you later. Friend..
Hi can you provide me the links of memory testing linux software, same as you are using?
Which ISOs/tools do you recommend for testing different cards? I just received 5 old AMD R9 350 gpus from ebay and want to test them to make sure they work and are legit. GPU-Z says this one is an R9 350 with 2GB of GDDR5, but when I click "lookup" the site says it's an R7 250 with 1GB of DDR3. How can I tell which one is correct? Thanks!!!
plug it in, run few games. if it works it works
Hello Sir, what could cause artefacts in post screen for an Saphire nitro R7 370 4 GB and after instal driver black screen appear.
Bios. Core.
@@northwestrepair Thank you very much.
@@northwestrepair I write the new bios but it is the same, i runned a memory test and give me an error on ch:1, rank:0, bit:31. Now i dont know wich one is it on the board.
Fixing mining cards is a pain in the a** as most of them have the display output disabled in the BIOS or they don't have video outputs at all.
Is that you in the thumbnail Tony?
lol yeah !
To me "No charge" is unfair. You did spend some time on it. A small charge for a basic diagnostic is fair. After all the customer believed something was wrong and you did more than a basic check over and re pasting.
w8 is that some custom 3d printed head strap at 12:41
Seems like so lol.
Yes. I custom 3d print everything.
@@northwestrepair same!
You tested memory with wrong bios on card and probably wrong timings??????
Are you talking about the mining card ?
It didnt matter. Obviously memory test was not correct because bios was not correct.
@@northwestrepair Yes i talking about mining card. don't get me wrong, I admire your work,such skills and knowledge are not seen every day, but we can all make a mistake. my opinion that is better to flash corrctly bios first than test the memory. Best regards and keep up good work!
The need to be correct on the internet is strong in this one.
@@SGresponse when is custom bios flashed, with mining timings for memory, it can easily happen that memory test fail! that's why I say it's better to do the test with the original bios! I'm not just talking about this case, but otherwise when it comes to amd cards…someone who had over 100 amd cards in rigs knows what he's talking about…but there will always be smartass like you
the windows with tose display driver didnt see properly graphic so gpu-z can't read to. He made a little mistake (maybe). Needed to save bios with atiflash(or atiwinflash who work with polaris) & read with polaris bioseditor (eg) not from gpu-z..
oh no
Next is 1070 ti 1080 and 1080 ti
I was going to comment to ask why Vega cores die so much and two sentences later you answered it. That's a strange design... Thinking about it, hopefully, the same does not happen with the 5800X3D CPUs!
I didnt have this model but I had an msi airboost vega 56 and on the factory clock speeds it would overheat and crash. Very poor design I ended up having to undervolt it to get it to run right.
May I ask what music you are using? Really works for this kind of repair video! Love your work and knowledge!
bump
i your fix gpu
yes
Let's go Brandon!!
Man I'm curious to know who the fuck pays to have an RX470 (~$70 on ebay) repaired in 2022 lol
The "kill" command should earn you a like from all who watch this video. 👍
Command... That is too bad!! LOL
lol That command.
Second
The socialist party of gpu fixers
Can u use mods for testing AMD cards ? And may i ask wich version u got and were from ? Kind regards and ty for your videos , im learning allot !
mods for nvidia
@@northwestrepair Thank you for your reply Northwestrepair , appreciate it . Didnt know it worked on amd cards . Kind regards !
Afterall, thats ADVANCED Milking Devices 🥱