Timecodes: 00:00 - Start 00:29 - Download Cycles X and Blender 3.0 00:49 - The Dusty Cellar test 04:43 - The Bottles - glass shader pathtracing test 07:01 - The Lamp test 08:10 - The Sci-fi Helmet test 10:42 - The Nebulae test 12:32 - The Procedural Shader test (wip Procedural Texturing course) 15:36 - wip footage from the teaser of our new course
True story! He's still writing a lot (sorted out the issues with alcohol too, to some extent, thankfully). He's an amazing poet, historian and journalist. facebook.com/brestsky.kurier.redactor
I have to add a note: Pablo from blender today mentioned multiple times that Cycle-X was planned to be released in 3.1. Not 3.0. In his Q&A section, people asked whether Dev would postpone the release of 3.0 so that cycle-X can be included in 3.0 instead of 3.1, Pablo said they haven't decided yet and hoped users didn't put stress on Dev & their working schedule, etc. More importantly, he said, even if it were to be released in 3.1, it would be just 4 month later than 3.0 release. There was really no need to rush. I think I need to add this note because the title would be really misleading if people think Cycle-X will be in 3.0 while it's, at least currently, planned to be in 3.1. People may feel angry and fight back for the fact that Cycle-X doesn't present in 3.0 eventually.
Rendering out my one water simulation that took 4 hours on old cycles (3090ti card), only took 20 minutes with blender x. It was nice. Now mind you, that's only one example of my one project. I literally didn't test on anything else. So idk if it would handle any better or worse on them. But in that one example, it was nice.
Even my 1060 6GB got an immense speed boost. Like you said, seems like it is across the board a general speed improvement for all GPUs that ran Cycles before.
@@henrique-3d Ok, sorry to hear. Time that 3d is not generally a lot more focused on Nvidia and enables more power from AMD cards. I wished AMD could compete for for us 3d artists :/
@@katiebarber407 I know, just didn't want to get into the technical details as many people could read it who are not as tech savy as we are :) Cuda is proprietary to NVidia, I just hope some new tech gives us the same performance on AMD.
It will not be better for every video card. They are writing it in a NVIDIA proprietary api, CUDA, which will only ever run on NVIDIA cards. Cycles stopped supporting OpenCL without commiting to an alternative for other GPU vendors. For it to work on AMD or Intel they will need to rewrite it in a different API like Vulkan or DirectX. They claim they plan to do so. But it seems more likely that Eevee, which uses the OpenGL api, will implement raytracing first. There are already several demos written in OpenGL that do ray tracing and de-noising.
1:45 I'm a bit confused. First of all, Blender says that the difference in render times 24s vs 16s and not 21s vs 16s. But regardless, it is not 130% faster, but rather ~30% faster (21/16 - 1 ≈ 0.31) or 50% faster (24/16 - 1 = 0.5). The largest relative drop in render time seems to be for the procedural wall at 12:32, which is 89%. However nowhere do you show anything that would be 700% faster. Don't get me wrong, what the Blender team has done is insanely impressive, but I think it's good to try to be honest with the stats to not create false expectations.
Amazing! I tried the classroom scene in 2.93 at 500 samples (2070 super and 2x 1080ti) 1m 50s. Then with just 2070 super in cycles-X at 500 samples, 1m 5 sec. That's 41% faster, with two less GPUs!! I don't know how it will scale when they get multiple GPUs working, but I can't wait to find out. Hopefully next CPU upgrade I can spend less then $600 on mobo because I don't need an E-ATX with three PCI x 16 slots.
be careful with your expectations, render engines grow slower as their feature set increases. I wouldn't set my expectations until cycles-x is feature complete.
The procedural one? oh it is :) we're rendering stuff for the teaser now, that's where Cycles X came in handy, good timing indeed. What else can I say? Luca Rood is an AMAZING instructor, it's a joy watching him doing crazy-ass magic with nodes AND explaining it like a professor along the way, such a bombastic mixture!
Aww, I'm crying here in GTX960 :D :D I mean, it's not that bad. Everything just looks so smooth on this your 2080ti, even the old Cycles which is awesome. If someone, I think it's you who should have an access to super computers. :)
I was afraid to render animations in Blender for a long time. I tried cycles X and now I have render times that are really acceptable. Thank you very much for this tip. Is there an update for Space VFX with actual Blender versions?
kinda wasting power if you use denoise at 1 sample, its working all the time as the render progresses. It make more sense to set it to the end of the total samples. I believe you wasting lots of computing power using this 1 sample denoise
maybe it's all good for nvidia cards, but not for amd radeon. not only it doesn't work without special drivers (which break some of videogames btw), but also this new version broke everything and made it few times slower. IF YOU HAVE RADEON CARD - DO N O T UPGRADE TO v3.0! i have radeon rx 5500 xt 4gb (2020 card with rdna), and works much better on 2.9.x versions, than this broken 3.0
Hey Gleb! We (I) know you really like coffee. So my question is, just out of curiosity: what's your favorite coffee type? Mine is Latte Macchiato. I've heard many say curiosity kills the cat. Looks like I'm playing a dangerous game here... :P
@@GlebAlexandrov It's really fascinating and scary at the same time how fast technology is evolving! -- I really like your content, you're a great guy!
Very good video. I have a question. Is Cycles X ready for production? I mean, can i render an animation without expecting glitches or something like that? thanks
For me CPU is so much faster but GPU is incredible slow, it feels like if you us more RAM than the GPU has its extremly slow. But its just the beginning and really good so far
Perhaps you already know, but Blender 2.80 has a 32 bit release. 32 bit was dropped in 2.81 though. You can get the 32 bit 2.80 version here: download.blender.org/release/Blender2.80/ Perhaps it can be interesting if you want to get accustomed to the newer interface and some of the early features of the 2.8x branch.
This is mindblowing, the EEVEE v Cycles X comparison got me off guard. Now that both the EEVEE and Cycles teams and under one single team maybe they will be able to piggyback some optimization ideas because for preview purposes (while moving the camera and look dev) responsiveness trumps image quality (to reasonable middle ground). Ditto collaborating to the BF, I spend a somewhat reasonable amount on random patreons and decided to just add Bronze donations to Blender just because of how mindboggling their advances are and for free, I don’t even use Blender at all except for exploring and learning sometimes yet I can’t help but appreciate their work. Background: I come from 3dsmax days, the days when Brazil, Cebas FinalRender and VRay were all the rage with 2hrs long single frame renders. Enjoyed the rundown, subbed.
i just got a new graphics card and then this... i feel like i got teleported like 100 years into the future
Welcome to realtime pathtracing (kind of).
@@rano12321 Not soul...just kidney...you have two anyway...
Wait, what? You just got a graphics card?
Oh, I get it, this comment is from 2 years ago....
JK... 😂
@@rano12321 my mom saved me from selling my soul. im not proud of getting an overpriced card, but we had some spare money laying around :p
Same lmao... Just made an upgrade from 750ti to 2070S and now optix and now cycles X?? Ya kidding mee I hope they support volume soon
Cycles X is slashing every thing I throw at it in half (rendertimes), very impressive work indeed.
Something like that. in my scenes it's 1.5-2x cut on average.
Hey its Cryo! Love your music!
@@elektra81516 Thank youuuu!
Timecodes:
00:00 - Start
00:29 - Download Cycles X and Blender 3.0
00:49 - The Dusty Cellar test
04:43 - The Bottles - glass shader pathtracing test
07:01 - The Lamp test
08:10 - The Sci-fi Helmet test
10:42 - The Nebulae test
12:32 - The Procedural Shader test (wip Procedural Texturing course)
15:36 - wip footage from the teaser of our new course
Hello
Cant' wait for Cycles XXX
triple as fast, almost too fast.
@@GlebAlexandrov yes, that's what she said
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
''G'day and welcome to the secret donut tutorial, this donut will look naughtier than you would expect''
@@ian.ambrose yes, we'll add dripping cream all over it using Mantaflow.
Wait, there's a procedural texturing course coming!? So hyped.
YES! :) it's going to be amazing and it's almost ready for publishing.
@@GlebAlexandrov that procedural texture is exactly what i'm looking its amazing will i be able to make that?
These improvements just keep being impressive. How much better can it get?
it's eerie how fast it all converges with the gamedev realtime engines towards instantaneous feedback (which IS the way).
caustics, that's how
The short diversion about your father was a beautiful story :)
True story! He's still writing a lot (sorted out the issues with alcohol too, to some extent, thankfully). He's an amazing poet, historian and journalist.
facebook.com/brestsky.kurier.redactor
I have to add a note: Pablo from blender today mentioned multiple times that Cycle-X was planned to be released in 3.1. Not 3.0. In his Q&A section, people asked whether Dev would postpone the release of 3.0 so that cycle-X can be included in 3.0 instead of 3.1, Pablo said they haven't decided yet and hoped users didn't put stress on Dev & their working schedule, etc. More importantly, he said, even if it were to be released in 3.1, it would be just 4 month later than 3.0 release. There was really no need to rush.
I think I need to add this note because the title would be really misleading if people think Cycle-X will be in 3.0 while it's, at least currently, planned to be in 3.1. People may feel angry and fight back for the fact that Cycle-X doesn't present in 3.0 eventually.
I hope the advantages of Cycles X will also bea available on old cards like my 1050Ti... Would be a blessing ^^ Such a cool improvement of blender
1050ti old 😭😭😭
Wdym? I thought it was available on every GPU (nvidia)
@@niallherrera4031 no advantage, u need an expensive RTX. so i call this a hype.
I like your narrative style, Gleb
Every video card? Except AMD :(
Beautiful - thanks for the heads up!
Very exciting. You'll have to let us know when the procedural texturing course is available :)
I was max user too. at that time Redshift render give me shock because of the speed but this one... ＯＭＧ
I didn’t have time to test it yet, nice comparison 👏
You'll enjoy testing it, Pietro! I'm sure :)
1:48 sry but it's either 30 percent faster, or 130 percent of original speed.
21s to 16s is not 130% faster... 100% faster would mean double the speed. Math is not a crime dude
You're great,
Thanks for sharing.
Rendering out my one water simulation that took 4 hours on old cycles (3090ti card), only took 20 minutes with blender x. It was nice.
Now mind you, that's only one example of my one project. I literally didn't test on anything else. So idk if it would handle any better or worse on them. But in that one example, it was nice.
Wow, that's a big difference for sure.
i want to know if the 1060 and below users will feel a huge difference than 2000 and 3000 series users
Hello dear Gleb
can u tell me what kind chair do you have?:)
one major thing I so want the new Cycles X to have is real Caustics. Luxcore is just clunky
I hope we see micro poly displacement as an official feature in Cycles X rather than experimental.
Gleb, you're a good man.
Wooaw, so when Cycles X will be fully release and go in the hand of the maker of E-Cycles could be (and will be) the faster engine in Blender.
Even my 1060 6GB got an immense speed boost. Like you said, seems like it is across the board a general speed improvement for all GPUs that ran Cycles before.
Amd not working yet =/
@@henrique-3d Ok, sorry to hear. Time that 3d is not generally a lot more focused on Nvidia and enables more power from AMD cards. I wished AMD could compete for for us 3d artists :/
On my gtx 1060 is 2x and in some scenes is 3x faster
@@FloTasser it's cuz AMD doesn't include cuda cores which is what the lighting excels with
@@katiebarber407 I know, just didn't want to get into the technical details as many people could read it who are not as tech savy as we are :) Cuda is proprietary to NVidia, I just hope some new tech gives us the same performance on AMD.
Dude don't have to render he just can screenshot and it is done
Progressive rendering? My dear GPU, I wish you the best of luck.
It will not be better for every video card. They are writing it in a NVIDIA proprietary api, CUDA, which will only ever run on NVIDIA cards. Cycles stopped supporting OpenCL without commiting to an alternative for other GPU vendors.
For it to work on AMD or Intel they will need to rewrite it in a different API like Vulkan or DirectX. They claim they plan to do so. But it seems more likely that Eevee, which uses the OpenGL api, will implement raytracing first. There are already several demos written in OpenGL that do ray tracing and de-noising.
1:45 I'm a bit confused. First of all, Blender says that the difference in render times 24s vs 16s and not 21s vs 16s. But regardless, it is not 130% faster, but rather ~30% faster (21/16 - 1 ≈ 0.31) or 50% faster (24/16 - 1 = 0.5). The largest relative drop in render time seems to be for the procedural wall at 12:32, which is 89%. However nowhere do you show anything that would be 700% faster. Don't get me wrong, what the Blender team has done is insanely impressive, but I think it's good to try to be honest with the stats to not create false expectations.
Wonder what happens if Ecycles denoise nodes are used, that has mind blowing results
"Now looking at these bottles i remembered that my father probably drank too much.. and i used to be a 3DSMax user" What xD
Amazing! I tried the classroom scene in 2.93 at 500 samples (2070 super and 2x 1080ti) 1m 50s. Then with just 2070 super in cycles-X at 500 samples, 1m 5 sec.
That's 41% faster, with two less GPUs!!
I don't know how it will scale when they get multiple GPUs working, but I can't wait to find out. Hopefully next CPU upgrade I can spend less then $600 on mobo because I don't need an E-ATX with three PCI x 16 slots.
be careful with your expectations, render engines grow slower as their feature set increases. I wouldn't set my expectations until cycles-x is feature complete.
i almost buy E cycles but, i need to wait to Official cycle X. is there anyone knows about comparison both renderer?
That course looks insane 😱
The procedural one? oh it is :) we're rendering stuff for the teaser now, that's where Cycles X came in handy, good timing indeed. What else can I say? Luca Rood is an AMAZING instructor, it's a joy watching him doing crazy-ass magic with nodes AND explaining it like a professor along the way, such a bombastic mixture!
Hi Gleb !! Good to see a new video on channel. What is ur fav. source(s) for music ? and do you edit ur videos on Resolve or PremierPro ?
i also have noticed that.Especially - with version - 3.1.0 beta.Is much faster - render time,than it used to be in version 2.93
-Big hands-
Great stuff Gleb! By the way, your t-shirt says "strenght" ;)
We can run them both, can't we? And just use Cycles X to render?
hey gleb what do youthink about adaptive subd of blender vs texture diplacement that octane has?
To be honest, I haven't compared it.
I kinda hope you'll just make more scenes. You are such a good artist!
I hope that too! too bad I've lost the focus a bit, but I'll pick it again! :)
Aww, I'm crying here in GTX960 :D :D
I mean, it's not that bad. Everything just looks so smooth on this your 2080ti, even the old Cycles which is awesome.
If someone, I think it's you who should have an access to super computers. :)
I was afraid to render animations in Blender for a long time. I tried cycles X and now I have render times that are really acceptable. Thank you very much for this tip.
Is there an update for Space VFX with actual Blender versions?
I have an RTX2070 and my render in 2.92 took 2 min 47 sec. In Cycles X it took 1 minute longer??? I'm going in the wrong direction :/
moral of the story, cycles-x is faster, but uses WAY MORE memory!
why is x using progressive refine? pls tell me that's changable
will it work for gtx 1650 super? or only for rtx cards
Big Buck Bunny should be rendered again with the new cycles X to define the Blender reborn
Someone give this guy a 3090. Or a machine with 4x3090.
Did you use cgmatters Outro as an intro?
Maybe! who knows? ;)
Hwi can i know whether i am using old cycles or cycles x ?
In the start the first render was 24s, but later you stated it was 21s?
Well now it's out and renders are taking 2 1/2 times longer for me.
Saving it into a special so folder so you wont see it again?!?! hmmm kinda vague, what was that about?
Progressive rendering reminds me of POV-Ray way back in the day.
Работа просто супер! Понравился конверт с изображением Семиона Полоцкого🙂
kinda wasting power if you use denoise at 1 sample, its working all the time as the render progresses. It make more sense to set it to the end of the total samples. I believe you wasting lots of computing power using this 1 sample denoise
blnder cycle x also not supporting ambient occ
Wonder how much faster renders will be on my old arse Quadro p4000.
The way he traumatize everything.
Can you compare it with K Cycles?
I haven't tested K Cycles yet.
When I try to install it on win7 I get an error ms: 0x000007b. Does anyone know the solution?
Is real time path tracing possible?
Cycle-x: yes
im not getting any speed speed improvements at all... wtf is going on. im using the classroom scene
2 to 7 times? Wow. My laptop may be able to render something before the heat death of the universe now!
And the universe will probably be subjected to the heat death during this testing as well :))) hehe
Rtx 3090 Titan = Cycle realtime? XD
Always fantastic blender cheer ...!!!!
loved the content as well as the side stories haha
I think you meant 30% faster, not 130%...
Your voice is so soothing and educating!!! You are a Treasure in the community Gleb:)
even educating?) haha that's how I know that you're too kind, Egret!
maybe it's all good for nvidia cards, but not for amd radeon. not only it doesn't work without special drivers (which break some of videogames btw), but also this new version broke everything and made it few times slower.
IF YOU HAVE RADEON CARD - DO N O T UPGRADE TO v3.0!
i have radeon rx 5500 xt 4gb (2020 card with rdna), and works much better on 2.9.x versions, than this broken 3.0
Hey Gleb! We (I) know you really like coffee. So my question is, just out of curiosity: what's your favorite coffee type? Mine is Latte Macchiato. I've heard many say curiosity kills the cat. Looks like I'm playing a dangerous game here... :P
Haha, espresso doppio from a coffee machine that had been warmed up probably, 100% arabica (Ethiopian, Brazilian, many other options).
I heard Belarus? Не может быть, вот так дела :)
огоооо
а имя ни о чем не говорило все это время?)
@@bogdao44 тут суть именно в Беларуси, ибо сам из Беларуси :)
Спасибо
Давно смотрю тебя и только сейчас узнал что ты земляк! Жыве Беларусь!
Жыве! Спасибо, что смотришь 🦄🎸♥️
That nebula is insane! Anyone have a good reference/tutorial for how to make those??
There is a good add-on for that, just check blender market :)
Wait so you are russian? The books are in russian
У тебя прям американский акцент)
I wish they would add some kind of denoising blending for animations
Ed, oh that would be a game changer (one more, hehe). The temporal cohesiveness of denoising, time awareness or how do you call it.
Cycles in almost real time? Never thought I'd live long enough to see that feature. Luckily I was so wrong! This is amazing!
I've been wanting to see it implemented since childhood (since I saw an offline implementation of global illumination).
@@GlebAlexandrov It's really fascinating and scary at the same time how fast technology is evolving! -- I really like your content, you're a great guy!
we will likely have realtime path tracing in the next ten years no ploblem
Very good video. I have a question. Is Cycles X ready for production? I mean, can i render an animation without expecting glitches or something like that? thanks
can you share the bottle scene with us ? for study ??
*cries in AMD*
so we cant use it if we got amd GPU?
For me CPU is so much faster but GPU is incredible slow, it feels like if you us more RAM than the GPU has its extremly slow.
But its just the beginning and really good so far
I'm am me you are you hello cgmatter
Does the RTX gpu are only benefited from Cycles X or does it apply with an older GPU like GTX 1070 for example?
Perfect timing that I was able to build my new PC with the 3080 GPU.. Amazing as always. Super thankful for your truly inspiring work !
Good timing indeed. Have you already tested it on your beast?
Is it only for RTX cards ?
Hey Gleb, curious, did you build/ model your scenes in Blender 3.0.0? or did you pop them into this version to render them with Cycles X?
1:45 : A little correction; Not 130% faster, it is 30% faster.🙂
ah right) or 130% of the speed of the original one)
*Thankyou Sir but My pc is 32 bit so I use Blender 2.79 so I can't use it*
Perhaps you already know, but Blender 2.80 has a 32 bit release. 32 bit was dropped in 2.81 though. You can get the 32 bit 2.80 version here: download.blender.org/release/Blender2.80/
Perhaps it can be interesting if you want to get accustomed to the newer interface and some of the early features of the 2.8x branch.
@@ArtisticRender thankyou
@@ArtisticRender it crashes so I mostly uses blender 2.80 for Rendering purpose
@@NOTMYSCENE yeah, its there, but it is not as stable as either 2.79, 2.81 or any of the later releases unfortunately.
Awesome - Thank you!
9:47 set the start viewport denoising sample to 2 and you can navigate around much smoother
really? I should try this.
This is mindblowing, the EEVEE v Cycles X comparison got me off guard. Now that both the EEVEE and Cycles teams and under one single team maybe they will be able to piggyback some optimization ideas because for preview purposes (while moving the camera and look dev) responsiveness trumps image quality (to reasonable middle ground).
Ditto collaborating to the BF, I spend a somewhat reasonable amount on random patreons and decided to just add Bronze donations to Blender just because of how mindboggling their advances are and for free, I don’t even use Blender at all except for exploring and learning sometimes yet I can’t help but appreciate their work. Background: I come from 3dsmax days, the days when Brazil, Cebas FinalRender and VRay were all the rage with 2hrs long single frame renders.
Enjoyed the rundown, subbed.
А ты говоришь по русский?) Просто если да, то мне есть смысл копить на твои курсы, а если нет, то пока рановато и нужно бы подучить английский)
Да курсы шикарные, эх, если бы хотя бы субтитры на русском я бы покупал
2.93 is alread a huge improvement because of persistent data. would have liked a comparison with that included
That s cycles porn
i just got a new graphics card and then this... i feel like i got teleported like 100 years into the future