How new church policies make trans members invisible and could push them to leave

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
  • The occasional updates to the online General Handbook of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are often routine, addressing relatively mundane policies, practices and procedures within the global faith of 17.2 million members.
    Not so this week.
    The new guidelines spelled out for local lay leaders and their approach to transgender individuals have created a firestorm among LGBTQ members and their allies not seen, perhaps, since the hotly disputed - and now-discarded - exclusion policy of November 2015 against same-sex couples.
    The new rules state, for instance, that members who have transitioned in any way - whether surgically, medically or socially - cannot receive a temple recommend, work with children, serve as teachers in their congregations or fill any gender-specific assignments, such as president of the women’s Relief Society.
    They cannot stay at most youth camps overnight. And they are urged to use single-occupancy restrooms at church meetinghouses or station a “trusted person” outside to keep others from entering when they use a restroom that aligns with their personal gender identity.
    Discussing these new policies and their potential impact on members are religion scholar Taylor Petrey, editor-in-chief of Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought and author of “Tabernacles of Clay: Sexuality and Gender in Modern Mormonism,” and Michael Soto, a transgender and queer man who grew up in the church and now serves as president of Equality Arizona.

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  • @evelyntaylor742
    @evelyntaylor742 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    After the 2015 child baptism exclusion policy for children of same sex couples combined with this latest trans policy, this is feeling less and less like Christ's church.

    • @styphlynne8253
      @styphlynne8253 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its not gods way or his church. This political organization is less than 200 yrs old. NewAge CULT-ures fade fast !! The Masons were all about politics. JoeSmith copied so much from them. I know more resigning than joining

    • @Dave-if5qj
      @Dave-if5qj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂

    • @DeJaVuCa
      @DeJaVuCa 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Dave-if5qj In Africa if a child is born Albino they are executed- not a lot to laugh about. The rest of us are rising to higher vibrations of love Dave

  • @aliciamae85
    @aliciamae85 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    My favorite part was when asked 5:30 mins in, what did the church do well with these changes.... crickets...long pause. Then follows...it could have been worse...how low do we set the bar for religions of the world?

  • @leewong7421
    @leewong7421 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Turn to Jesus Christ as your Lord, so that all of your sins will be forgiven, and you will be saved❤️ He is the only way to heaven, and he wants you to be saved❤️

  • @styphlynne8253
    @styphlynne8253 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    17 mill members is a joke!! Most have left. Millions are in the process of having that LD$ number removed

    • @darlenemartim9972
      @darlenemartim9972 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s best for individuals to leave if it’s not working for them. Find what does. God bless

    • @styphlynne8253
      @styphlynne8253 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@darlenemartim9972 I wish anyone would have warned me what was to come. We think we know until after the fact.

  • @sinisterhug1394
    @sinisterhug1394 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Trans woman here, & yeah, I don’t regret removing my records. If anything, this just fuels my bias that I made the right choice in not keeping my name on their list 😂
    Sucks for any trans person who’s still believing & in the church tho, so my heart goes out to them, regardless if they decide to leave or try to stay in the church

    • @nicola3452
      @nicola3452 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I study and listen to all Mormon to defend my transsexual reality. I am surrounded by we want to help you when it is control. Unless told they think I need a husband and have children, I find it funny they just don't know,.Bathroom issues I have never scene or experienced a problem, am I lucky or is it all BS?

    • @darlenemartim9972
      @darlenemartim9972 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you leaving on your own accord
      It’s best to be where you are comfortable. If Jesus is not for you, no problem.

    • @Dave-if5qj
      @Dave-if5qj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂

  • @jamescrane6583
    @jamescrane6583 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The results of Jacob Hansen's activism.

    • @aliciamae85
      @aliciamae85 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Do you mean Jacob Hansen's support of intolerance? Reminds me of the parable of when Christ leaves the 99 and goes after the 1...until Christ finds out the 1 was a Transgender Lamb...and determines to returns to the 99. (New Testament - Jacob Hansen Edition)

  • @sweetsilage
    @sweetsilage 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Are they still required to pay there tithes ?

    • @styphlynne8253
      @styphlynne8253 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If one wants to go to their childs wedding, dress their momma for a funeral, maintain political stance in western USA, maintain social acceptance, get help from a "particular" bishop, the loop holes are endless

    • @darlenemartim9972
      @darlenemartim9972 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No one is required. The lord never forces. It’s based on ones faith in Jesus Christ

    • @styphlynne8253
      @styphlynne8253 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@darlenemartim9972 Thats right and for hundreds of years during the Christian Crusades people had choices. Follow christ or burn at the stake. . . Ya so many burned and were slaughtered

  • @Dave-if5qj
    @Dave-if5qj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im ni longer LDS but fully support
    This policy , don't like it leave
    Sumple as that gender is sacred

  • @darlenemartim9972
    @darlenemartim9972 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Every church and organization priority is keeping kids/people safe. If you are just an activist plz leave and find where you are most comfortable. We love you. If you love God turn to him and gain a testimony. These things will not affect you
    Christ lives and loves us

    • @haroldwhite5761
      @haroldwhite5761 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      If only the Church understood love as Christ did...

    • @danak8782
      @danak8782 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      If only the entire world could love like Christ.

    • @haroldwhite5761
      @haroldwhite5761 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@danak8782 The world seems to be doing better than the Church when it comes to love in this situation

    • @SlyFan-mp8dc
      @SlyFan-mp8dc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@haroldwhite5761And how did Christ love exactly?

    • @styphlynne8253
      @styphlynne8253 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      darlenemartim: Gaslighting at its finest ! You must be from Utah