In Defense of Homelander
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Today we try to see the events in The Boys through Homelander's eyes.
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He would actually be a really nice guy in the 40K Universe.
Only one of the nicest beings in the 40K universe hahaha
He would be the Emperor of Mankind.
Maybe
@@haggus71 Better Father …
@@casbot71 LMAO - Probably would not have started the Horus Heresy. By that count, he's already better than Emps.
He only loves his son because he sees his son as an extension of himself, therefore he really just loves himself and not so much his progeny…
I would even go as far as stating that it's the potential to be loved by someone that wouldn't reject him on the basis of unconditional family love.
That's literally everyone
@@makisekurisu4674 Yeah, but in this case the only thing he loves is a nazi woman and his son which is just more of him.
Oh wow... welcome to humanity lmao
Even psychopathic narcissists can love and adore their children. You could just as easily say that with the level he adores himself, he would have to love and adore his son as an extension or continuation of his legacy.
Trying to side with a Narcissist is a terrifyingly hilarious concept.
Sorry your defenses are weak and meanigless, prepare to be destroyed
Superman is a great study in what influences us to be who we are. He was raised by a good family, who taught him to use his power justly. By the way he choses his secret identity, he sees humanity as weak, bumbling beings; yet he sees himself not as someone to dominate over them, but as their protector. It's a study in the question of, does power truly corrupt us; or is it our own level of corruption that influences that power? Batman could be killing criminals left and right. Being he had his parents killed in front of him, he could have turned that way. Because of how he was influenced, first by them, then by Alfred, he chose to act not as judge and executioner, but as a glorified detective with the superpower of lots of money. He catches criminals, but only after he has the evidence of their corruption.
Homelander was just raised in a lab. He never had that moral compass of an ever-present family to guide him. His true father was just some supe who jerked off in a test tube. The way he sees the world is just through a superior being with no moral compass, which is more like a predator over its prey.
Omni-man and Homelander are amazing characters to dissect and study there amazing polar opposite’s to Superman
Superman doesn't see humans as weak or bumbling, he sees them as humans. The way he sees humans is the way a powerlifter might see a normal guy, or a literal genius sees the rest of humanity, maybe they don't have the same skills and strengths, but they have their own value separate from their own. He protects them because he has skills and powers that no human has, not because he thinks he's stronger and smarter. It's no different than a smart person becoming a doctor because it's a good use for their abilities.
@@thechallenger752 Hear, hear!
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Superman does NOT see humans as weak bumbling beings. He protects humanity because in his heart, he is a human. He's just a dude with powers who wants to help. A man who represents the best values of human decency, hence the name superman. Him choosing to keep his identity secret has nothing to do with some underline superiority complex. Its just the classic "hero wants to have a normal life too"
Nah, people should not have to suffer a narcissist like him, no matter the benefits he brings. If he causes that much chaos while defending humanity when there isn’t a threat that requires his presence then you have to ask whether or not he’s needed. There are other heroes that could do his job. The chaos he brings is too much a price to pay for his “protection”. There are better ways to act even if he wanted to rule over humanity. Even if the world treats you bad, it’s on you to not react and change to that. You have to be better because you choose to be, not because you were raised into it. And it’s not that hard to know what to do if you take a good year to look at what is good and what is not. He’s had like what, at least his whole life?
If a Super Villain or hostile aliens ever show up, he would run like a sissy or make peace with the opponent and then we are definitely f'ing doomed.
I understand he is a result of one of the worst childhoods ever but, I don't want to die or follow anything he says or pray to him like he's some sort of a god (actually, he kinda is a God but no, I still don't want to pray to him). So, either he himself decides to be good or he dies.
Homelander is my President.
As he lasers the head off a protestor in season 3. He’s a great guy.
Tbh when somebody would insult and throw stuff at your child its a pretty resonable response
@@georgemurdock7670 That dude was unarmed and powerless, Homelander murdered him.
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord yeah and? With great power comes great responsibility, for who has that power but likewise for those who come in contact with it. Thats why you shouldn’t poke bears with sticks or at least shouldn’t be offended when it bites. Normally even the dullest gets schlauer durch aua, but pretty sure that dude didn’t learn, maybe his carcass will serve as an example tho for others to be nicer to kids and be smart around dangerous people.
@@georgemurdock7670 It's Homelander's son he knew throwing a cup at him wouldn't hurt him. He fucking murdered him and don't use a Spiderman quote here, it makes Homelander look way worse.
@@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord not physically hurt him, but pretty disrespectful and emotionally hurtful tbh.
This is the second worst take on homelander I've ever heard.
What's the first
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Honestly the most evil bastard, just a great character. haven't seen the show yet just going on the comic. The best thing about him in the comics is that he is entirely manufactured to be the perfect product of Vought from his manufactured Superman origin story all the way up to the Huey timeline. I have no idea if they included the whole September 11 plot line in the show either way the way the comic spears both political ideology and celebrity worship was very gripping. It did fall apart in the end and the less said about Highland Laddie the better.
*"no no pls you guys are real Great guys"*
Homelander has always been my favourite character.
I'll save you the time.
He says that he isn't going to blame bad childhood and then immediately does so.
Which he isnt wrong about but it is clickbait
@@Invisibleboy999 Yes, everyone with a bad childhood becomes a psychopath as we all know.
Perfect leader of future America
l can't cap,he's a pretty chill guy
He would be a nice guy in Hell. Also he called regular humans mud people so I thought you guys wouldn't like Homelander. Humanity first!
He is the strongest human, he is the pinnacle of humanity and its first defender.
And don’t act like you never insulted other humans
@@georgemurdock7670 He's murdered people, he's raped people, he's kidnapped people, he manipulated/extorted people, he's a racist who fell in love with a nazi.
Yeah, he's such a great person.
I don't think Homelander has killed his mother in the show, that was in the comics. In the show his mom is still a mystery and speculated to be Stormfront by some fans.
It's probably a mystery in the show because he killed his mother. Not to mention the speech he gave to his son after his son asks him if he hates him for killing his mother.
No i wouldn't want homelander when we have supers like starlight.
The way we see homelander is the way lex luthor sees superman.
Now. I don't like homelander . . . but I also don't like superman.
Based
The truth about homelander is that he is what happens when superman *isnt* a literally christlike figure of patience and empathy. Give a regular human essentially godlike powers in real life, and anyone will turn out like him. The total lack of adversity has emotionally stunted him at the mental stage of a teenage bully.
Comic Homelander cannot share the same argument
Ah yes the notorious Homelander reliability.
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@@georgemurdock7670 how?
@@Rambuilding they keep us safe, thats how
@Victor Nieves but then we wouldn’t be safe. So wont happen
He's a victim too.
Alan would have called you a traitor of defending that thing
Wow you made me think. I would keep him around.
As people have said when you raise supes as a product and a weapon then it should suprise anyone that he snapped also if you are near invulnerable and can feel no pleasure or pain that would mess up your emotional development.
Give most celebrities powers like supes and you will get the same kind of lethal assholes.
It's not the powers that turns them that way, it's being idolized and worshipped. Humanity was never made to be worshipped, it ultimately corrupts the soul. Ezra Miller being a prime example of this.
nah, non-idolized powerful man still gets corrupt
@@musthaf9 They are still idolized in some ways by society, referring to status. It is a kind of idolization. That's how they get their power in the first place.
miss you american benn
If you guys are covering the boys, does that mean that Invincible battle analysis are next? Also are you watching For all Mankind? It's a show where there are realistic Space Marines vs Space spetnaz in the 80's on the Moon. Seems like it's right up your alleyway.
homeliner has no balls that's why he didn't save those people on the plane but army man is a true God because he's raised by an Empire of Immortals
Wait, are we the bad guys?
You know the TV version of Homelander is a piss take of a certain former President Trump, if he had the power to do exactly as he wanted, the way he wanted.
And it ain't subtle either.
I much rather have a Tony Stark to beef up earth's defenses if bad guys are at the gate, than a Homelander or Superman
Tony's just better, he goes paranoid over his designs being stolen, he has an alcoholic episode at some point and stuff, gets overtaken by emotions and does something irrational sometimes, he's both relateable and you look up to him at the same time
nawh who invited the 2year olds
He is a true empath
Truth. True empaths can truly put themselves in others' shoes. They can see others for who they are, and are hurt to the point they lose respect for others and become cold, rather than experience the pain of real empathy; or the repulsion of how weak most of humanity really is.
I only watch the show to enjoy the chaos whenever he finally breaks.
Perfect defense of Homelander.
supes remind me of greek gods
I cannot fathom how you rationalize defending fascism
haha good joke my guy!
Lets not forget, homelander is an excercise on what happens when you push Superman to the límit, and he fails, lets not over-analize that
Whether it be a sports hero or a lauded actor in a film that is loved by all the person on screen isn't the real person, that's kinda why I enjoyed the comics the supes are this idealized image that is nothing like the monsters or cowards or just bland people they really are, like the way Butcher is a fucking monster who drags Huey along on his suicide mission just as a way to try and delude himself into believing he is doing Good. That scene in the comic there he V's Huey is just perfect.
Lmao what? He's not.
Honestly I’ve always Wondered Despite how Bad he is! Is it actually fair to Compared to other Villains in Fiction! Plus we all know Homelander isn’t born Evil! Like Seriously let’s be Real we all know if we were in his Position and have his Childhood well definitely be worse than he is!!! Plus we all know there are Way more Villains in Fiction that makes him look like a Literal Saint!!!
So to sum up your defense is he's a narcissist.
"In defence" is a bit much... Why is your language so limited
then I doubt are you that devoted to humanity like I am if I'm a Imperium
Homelander is good. He could inslave and murder all humans but didn’t, that he has that choice and chooses not to shows hes good. He uses his powers to save people. The plane thing was an accident, and he used it as means to save many more lifes.
Idk why everybody is always hating on him and bullying him.
He could've tried to save people in the plane. He literally could've dropped the passengers one by one and gotten them to the sea. Or lift the plane just enough to slow the descent for an emergency landing. He just didn't even bother and threatened the passengers. He's just too egotistical to kill everyone who adore him.
@@munanchoinc he explained why it didn’t had worked. Slow or lift the plain how? There was no leverage, he said that.
Emergency landing how? The controls where broken.
And drop the passengers one by one where? There was only water around. Dropping them in the middle of the sea without some kind of boat would kill them as well. Seas are rough they would drown after the first big wave comes. And you see that he bothers otherwise he wouldn’t have been that worked up in the scene that he threatened them.
This is a shitpost right
@@kimmispooks nope
@@georgemurdock7670 I'm so sorry
My first cat, yeah, totes in sync; we got each other...the new kitten though, he sometimes reminds me that aliens are right here on planet Earth. We don't even know what and how the other animals think, I do really wonder why we treat speaking with extraterrestrials would be in anyway easy.
Well, fuck me, that argument actually hold together. It's kinda ruthless, but yeah, Homelander really is sadly exactly what we made him into, a literal super soldier capable of protecting us. Creepy, but yeah...
I rather give hope to musk than Homeland
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why you haven't make a video about vladilena milize from the anime eighty six series
Please re-upload the Pinocchio video to rumble
homelander is human huh so is the Joker😠
Cringe and reddit tier
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Nice
nah Superman Better
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"you are a Hero!" - Homelander
Huh, nice
Is it me you're looking for?
I really like the idea of this video, but it's just so ridiculously going against common sense, and facts in the show, that it's impossible to go along with it.
I do like discussions where we list good arguments for an ultimately bad thing, but this video is just flawed arguments for a bad thing.
No Just No
Wash your Face Dude. 😏
I'm glad that you made this content. The live action version of The Boys robbed fans of the best plot point of the source material: BLACK NOIR! The Homelander was a true hero since Black Noir who in the graphic novel is the twin of The Homelander and did all the evil deeds attributed to him it begs to question if Homelander was a good guy after all. It sucks that the show ruined one of the most interesting plot twists the show will never offered.
That twist is horrible
I'm with Butcher when it comes to supes. They're more trouble than they're worth
Butcher is only "right" because there is the difference between humans and supes in capabilities; but his argument is flawed in that hes basically wishing the destruction of those with both the will AND ability to be more than ordinary, which applies equally as it would with human to human interactions. like saying the only thing stopping you from killing someone you abhor, is a lack of the ability to do so. The Supes are inherently "good" because they have the ability to be worse, but not the will or inclination to be worse.
Agree 💯
theres no possible defense for Homelander but if this is a shitpost then you did good work
Homelander did nothing wrong. Tell me what he did in your opinion i tell you why he did nothing wrong
@@georgemurdock7670 sounds like you are one or the right wing idiots that still don’t get that Homelander is the villain… or in one word, a troll
@@georgemurdock7670 he murdered a kid and a Jewish girl
@@georgemurdock7670 the only thing homelander really did that genuinely disgusted me was the scene with the suicidal girl
@@georgemurdock7670 r@pe?
SuPerMaN BoRInG? Come on man!
Butcher and Homelander are opposite sides of the same coin. Both thinking little of the other side cause of the trauma they suffered. Maybe that's homelands endgame. He knows the only way to bring everyone together is by "scorching the earth". He and butchers final battle being the thing that brings both sides together.
Homelander represents America but even more he represents Donald Trump. Butcher represents the far left. They're both terrible but one is clearly more terrible than the other
What is this gross exercise in fascist apologia for the ubermensch
Superman is not boring and has no personality, pick up a goddamn comic book!
Rant over.
Whether it's good on balance to do the right thing for the wrong reasons is a reasonable question to ask, but it's one that centuries of history, warfare, and philosophical debate have given a fairly consistent answer of "no". Adopting a "might makes right" outlook instead leads directly to untermensch being enslaved to pick cotton or build pyramids.
More practically, I would rather take my chances without someone like Homelander, because while powerful, he isn't _reliable._ I mean, in the aliens-invade scenario, what makes us sure he wouldn't see _them_ as the more-evolved beings? After all, if they're an existential threat to normal humanity, but his superpowers allow him to hold his own, then wouldn't that philosophy of "survival of the fittest" mean there's a good chance he might side with the aliens over humanity?
Machiavelli covered this about 500 years ago. ...Well, not Homelander specifically, but in _The Prince_ when he discussed how mercenaries are dangerous to their employer. His view was that mercenaries _might_ be decent enough on the battlefield, but 1) there's no guarantee of that, 2) they make too many of their own rules to be reliable anyway, and 3) their only loyalty is to their paychecks, not to you as a leader or even to your country in general. If they decide they don't feel like fighting a critical battle (or if someone else outbids you and the mercs turn on you), then that's pretty much Game Over. Relying on mercenaries is an incredibly risky plan for no real benefit beyond what you could do by raising your own forces.
WRT Homelander, he's a sociopathic narcissist. An extraordinarily powerful individual, but about as reliable as a wild animal. If he can't be relied on to perform, then he is not fit for purpose as a defender. He still has value as a person, of course, and everyone in the show seems to be doing their level best to push him into embracing his worst tendencies, so there is a hefty element of tragedy to him. It's just, his philosphy is flawed and his capricious nature makes him unreliable as a lynchpin of mankind's defense.
No
They should do a "in defendse of soldierboy"
Homelander isnt are only hope. Thats the whole point of the boys. Its nonsupes taking down supes.
Hit thumbs up if you think Soldier Boy should've been allowed to finish off Homelander!
First up, Julia Davis Chandler invented the Peanutbutter and Jelly Sandwich in 1901. Or rather is the first person to write it down in a book. Google is still good for something....
Well, that solves the most.pressing question in the video.🥲🤣
@@GenerationFilms Lol I just figured the people had to know.
Don't worry I'm going to get to the actual points of the video too. TH-cam loves all engagement.
You cannot make the argument that Homelander is anything but a monster and horrible person, or that he would be a good or even partially worthwhile defender, without completely ignoring all those murders that he's committed (and it's a lot) or the fact that every single time he tries to save people, somebody dies, and it's pretty much always civilians because he has no interest or concern whatsoever for collateral damage. Also, he's only a caring father in any regard or at any time because he sees Ryan as essentially an extension to himself. If he believed that Ryan was lost to him and would never be willing to see him as his father or be his legacy again, he wouldn't care about him at all. Sure, he'd be sad, but not because he can't spend time with his son, but rather because that would be the equivalent of losing his legacy.
Also him accidentally killing her mom would explain her taste in women
Homelander, if he is so superior to us that he is essentially a different species is quite sad for him. We are just smart enough to understand life is meaningless and violent, imagine how painful it would be for a being that has the power to best every obstacle and hindrance that stop us, yet is stuck in this valley of tears. We are natural beings, we know we have a primordial purpose: being hunter gatherers in the grassland. We are biologically programmed for this task and many of our caracteristics are adapted to that purpose. Imagine being a superior being that met its creator and knew his purpose from birth and is far too sophisticated for this crude task.
Other race cuz species would mean he couldn’t reproduce with us anymore, wich he can. Rest is right tho. Poor immortal guy
Based Homelander. Homelander 2024
Omni man maybe from another galaxy but he's better than homelander
I will gladly kill homelander if I have his powers and so I can perform the rip and tear move from Doom
Another season would return Homelander and Butcher to previous dynamic, or branches into new universe?
he is no savior but something that should never exist or remain disposed 😠🗡
Black Noir is gonna come back im calling it
I've not seen the latest season, yet. (Ironically, I've been touring the US on an extended vacation).
However, I believe this one has been overthought.
Superheroes are a product of their generation and Homelander is in a long line of anti-heroes that have spawned over that period.
One of the real differences here is that The Boys is toying with the differences between gen y and z and, in fact, everything that came before them.
There's a point; I forget the exact episode, where it was obvious Homelander (gen Y) was going to be eclipsed by the gen z newcomers and we know how that went down.
Furthermore, the series dropped the idealistic view of superheroes and simply asked the question, "If superheroes were assholes too, what would happen?"
Obviously, when the facade dropped, hell broke loose and I'm really hoping S3 lives up to the expectations I have, let alone the hype 😁
Is this about doing something good not for someone else, but for yourself to feel better, to percieve yourself as a hero and to recieve praise from others?
Regarding your last question, I would personally get rid of Homelander. The main reason being that he represents and excessive force that is not really needed in the world of The Boys. If anything, having all supes on fairly equal footing would represent a better system as no one hero could muck things up on their own and thus would have an element of fear for their lives and livelihood that would allow them to be more humane.
The point of humanity being superior is not being the best in dominating others. Humanity being superior means having higher moral and ethical sense and using the resources at our disposal to help the others around us reach the best version of themselves.
Hold back your salvo of pejoratives, my mom levies enough against me
Return of the king
Missed opportunity to title this video "Homelander Did Nothing Wrong"
Well...I can't quite say that. 😅🤣
It's funny and catchy.
Nice video, but I still hate him and prefer Omni Man.
Homelander did nothing wrong.
Murder, rape, extortion, manipulation, and a lot of other things.
He's just misunderstood
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@@CrypticlyEncrypted Yes, definitely a Leader 👍
@@thornydig you are the kind of people the show makes fun and homelander would definitely end you
Blesss your lil faciat heart ❤️
@@thornydig ?
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