Why Europa Park is the Best Theme Park in Europe

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  • @momania
    @momania 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    FYI, nobody refers to Europa-Park as just 'Europa', we always say Europa-Park in full . Other than that, great overview 🙂

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks for the advice, I thought to do that since I’d already be saying “Europa Park” and “the park” a lot, so I wanted something as a placeholder that wouldn’t require me saying the word “park” over and over again haha

    • @adriansidler5706
      @adriansidler5706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Coaster_Critic
      An other way to call it would be EP

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@adriansidler5706but nobody refers to Europa park as EP, except in written form. So how is that better than just Europa? And I've heard several English speaking enthusiasts calling it just Europa

    • @dag9336
      @dag9336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don’t think it’s a huge deal. The video is a great love letter to the park regardless.

    • @limes_I
      @limes_I 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heard it a few times In Germany tbh​@@user-ve7hn2dh8h

  • @Bongus75
    @Bongus75 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definetely the best critique I watched the past months. Though living pretty near to the park and absolutely loving it, I think you tell the truth and many of your thoughts fit with mine. Wish you best in life!

  • @TheNo.1nerd-lookin-noob
    @TheNo.1nerd-lookin-noob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So happy to see you posted again! You are definitely one of the best coaster TH-camrs, and it’s awesome seeing the difference of people’s thoughts on rides, considering what you said about Voltron, compared to some people I have seen say Voltron>RTH.

  • @DaanBruins
    @DaanBruins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    13:20 good save my American friend.

  • @pnxdome
    @pnxdome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Crazy to imagine that - when they built the park - they got no funding from banks as they claimed there was no potential for such a leisure facility and the idea was too grandiose.
    Fast forward: second largest park in EU.
    I'm glad, Europa Park is nearby. Also, as family-owned corporation, Macks definitely have more leeway in terms of profit and act more dynamically.
    Im glad this video did not incooperate some shady accusations of insurance fraud!

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would imagine that giant multinational corporations have more financial leeway.. What europa doesn't have to do is, pay shareholders and ceo's

    • @pnxdome
      @pnxdome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@user-ve7hn2dh8h they are not your typical multinational conglomerate as you might imagine.
      They are by no means comparable to Ford, Nike or even smaller multinationals.
      They DONT have to pay shareholders because they are not on the stock exchange.
      Europeans companies emitting stocks have to pay shareholders (if they emit dividents that is) 😅
      Just look at VW, BMW or SAP.
      Same applys for the US aswell, btw.
      It all depends on how they are financed and in Europaparks case, they are solely funded by their own financial means.

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pnxdome yes genius that's exactly what I said. You wrote that the macks have MORE financial leeway. I pointed out that Disney and six flags have much more financial leeway.. How could you misunderstand what I said. You sound like you love hearing your own voice

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pnxdome literally my comment was Two sentences and you still were not able to actually read them.. I wrote : what europa DOESNT have to do is pay shareholders and ceos.. Now read your comment again... Jesus

    • @pnxdome
      @pnxdome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-ve7hn2dh8h because they do not need to justify their investments. Thats why they have more "leeway" in trying out unprofitable ideas. When they fail its their own money and own loss, no expensive lawsuits.
      Why the heck are you so rude?

  • @SwissCoasterEnthusiast
    @SwissCoasterEnthusiast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    As someone who is lucky enough to have Europa Park as his Home Park it's so lucky and I am so thankful for it. For me it's not a Home Park as weird as it sounds, it is my 2nd Home. I go there at least once every month and I just feel so good at this park. It's just a place where I feel so good every time I am there.
    As the cringy poster in my actual home says ''Home is not a place, it's a feeling.'' Corny I know but Europapark is literally just that. It is a place that just feels like Home. One reason is just I love being there and the second reason being, I quite literally grew up with this Park. We would go there every year since I have memories and it's the reason I am a coaster enthusiast today.
    It does everything right, Great Rides, Awesome Theming, amazing Staff, good food. Now with Rulantica and Voltron it just got so much better and it will only get better in the future.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Completely agree with you, it feels so homelike to me also even though I only visited twice

    • @JorisSauer-be2sh
      @JorisSauer-be2sh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been there about 50 times because of a season ticket and I just love it. In my opinion, the EP does (almost) everything right. My only point of criticism is the relatively high price.

    • @anthonysauter5368
      @anthonysauter5368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where can I sign this? 1.5hours from home. bliss. (buthonestlyfrenchpeoplepleaseshowerandusedeodorantthankyou)

  • @jasondelmaitre2838
    @jasondelmaitre2838 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video👍Definitely the best most versatile park in Europe👌No other park can boast the overall package of the Europapark. Over a hundred attractions for young and old. Brilliant theming with incredible details, countless food options. Fantastic hotels, and Rulantica one of the best water parks in Europe. Definitely my no.1 themeparc☝

  • @therollercoasterfan2682
    @therollercoasterfan2682 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Europapark is amazing, but Voltron in my opinion is absolutely World class and for sure one of the best coasters in Europe.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve definitely heard that from a lot of people, but I’m not that high on it

    • @anthonysauter5368
      @anthonysauter5368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coaster_Critic man whatever rocks your boat I say! I personally prefer Voltron over the ride to happiness, but still Shambhala is leading my european coaster list. Unpopular opinion: Tatsu is my personal top. Been a solid ten years or so since, but damn the memories...

  • @AnnoyingMiner10
    @AnnoyingMiner10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video!!! 🧚🏻‍♀️✨😝😎🤠
    Europa Park definitely has that immersive quality of its scenery & I would love to visit one day! Also, poor Lichtenstein 🧚🏻‍♀️✨🫣🥺🤧

  • @ramiii_99
    @ramiii_99 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    During the summer season, Europapark is usually open from 8 a.m. to 8:30 p.m., and the attractions open at 9 a.m

  • @IroAppe
    @IroAppe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What is often forgotten, are the shows. Europa Park does not just do any little shows - ok yes, there are some Meet Euromaus and stuff - but the big shows need attention. Because usually you would pay a considerable sum of money to see a show of that quality, and in Europa Park, it is just included in the park ticket. I remember the Chinese National acrobatic team doing a show on the stage in Piraten of Batavia. I remember some world-class ice skaters participating in the show, after the same contest has been held before in the Europa Park ice skating arena. And the Varieté show in Italy is always a view, with dancing, acrobatics, magic and comedy.
    And the show places have a lot of theming as well! Go take a seat in the Varieté theater in Italy, there is an absolutely huge painting on the ceiling of the mythical Europa, and the whole building looks fantastic, the columns having decorations, it just continues there. It is a whole area about Europa Park, that somehow is often overlooked. Which is maybe understandable, if international audiences only have limited time to spend at Europa Park.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree! If I ever go back again I will make sure to check some of that out.

  • @pfirsichdrop
    @pfirsichdrop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video! I can agree on most of your points. The Park ist beautiful and it's amazing how great their operations are, allowing Queuetimes to be somewhat fine even in the Holiday season. Also the attraction lineup is basically endless and has great quality coasters, darkrides and water rides. Its one of the only parks you can visit for three days and still have new Rides to do.
    That beeing said, it's not my favourite park in europe. For me - eftelings atmosphere is unmatched. I would say they are on par theming wise, but i think efteling is more beautiful simply because it's not as crammed as europapark. I love how you have multiple areas without Major Rides, which are purely dedicated to landscaping and theming (like the fairytale Forrest for example), giving the park a chilled vibe no other park can match in my opinion. It's also hands down the park with the best Soundtracks, adding to the magical atmosphere.
    By the way, one major critique for Europapark is the sponsoring on to many rides, which is so annoying and out of place it honestly ridiculous, pulling you out of the immersion on some rides (Voletarium beeing the worst). Also i don't get how they can have such a great overall Park concept, yet still deciding to add random IP based attractions like Arthur, which don't fit in the park at all.
    To avoid confusion, these are nit picks for sure. I absolutely love this park, it's just not the best in europe in my opinion.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really love Efteling as well and I agree with you on the sponsors on rides, I forgot to mention that. Also thanks for the amazing footage!

    • @cedarpointenthusiast
      @cedarpointenthusiast หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with you. As a fellow American, Efteling is my favorite park I have ever been to. Though Europa has better rides, and Phantasialand is more immersive, there’s a certain “magic” at Efteling that cannot be replicated. It’s the only park where I could just forget who I am and just take a deep breath.

  • @asterisks3062
    @asterisks3062 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video!!

  • @sooeeren
    @sooeeren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Europa Park has been my favourite park for many years. I went again this year 2 weeks ago and now that it has voltron its unbeatable. Voltron is my #1 or #2, i cant decide if its better than RTH
    ( THEY JUST NEED TO FIX THEIR SHIT APP, ITS BUGGY AND LAGGY ON ANDROID )
    Btw have you seen the Luxemburg Parts of Europa Park? Its just a little 5m path with a train passing through
    I 100% support this Video. I actually think Euro Mir is good :)

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have seen Luxembourg, but that’s where FoodLoop is so at least there’s something of note there

  • @Chessingtondragonfury
    @Chessingtondragonfury 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m kinda surprised they haven’t added an extreme spinner, they fill this park with some good models like Voltron, don’t see why they can’t add an extreme spinner.
    Also they already have a b&m hyper, so no, they aren’t getting a Mack hyper

  • @189TheGamer981
    @189TheGamer981 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regarding Euromir there already rumors that the next bigger project will be about Euromir. Either retrack or completey rebuilt is still unknown. It is understandable tho, the ride has been operating since 1997 and has had alot of issues the last couple of years.

  • @jasondelmaitre2838
    @jasondelmaitre2838 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1. Europapark
    2. Phantasialand
    3. Disney Paris
    4. Efteling
    5. Alton Towers
    6. Energylandia

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I really like Energylandia so I'd have it a bit higher and I haven't been to Disneyland Paris, but other than that I like this list!

  • @jorggrossmann7537
    @jorggrossmann7537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Europapark was really nice but i actually enjoyed phantasialand more because its just less crowded and has such good theming

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol what? PL definitely is more crowded more often and handles crowds much worse.. Less capacities on their rides and worse operations.. also one or several of the main attractions are closed much more often than in Europa park.. And Europa park already has way more rides

    • @jorggrossmann7537
      @jorggrossmann7537 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ve7hn2dh8h I've literally never experienced a ride being closed in pl, also maybe it's just the time I went but europapark lines were usually longer

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Europa Park draws in more people, but it also manages its crowds much better because Phantasialand is so small

  • @vemusicworks
    @vemusicworks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. It;s a great park indeed, However, if I had to mention one negative thing it would have been the, in my opinion, messy park layout and bad directions/signs. On a very busy day it's pretty had to find your way when you are visiting for the first time. Figured this out a couple of days ago ;-)

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point, I was pretty confused during my first visit too

  • @JaMi2310
    @JaMi2310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Europapark is my Home Park so I can say something to the video. Voltron has 3 Trains that are not running great but 4 are running very smooth also at the outer seats. They teased a Euro Mir Replacement/Retracking/Retheming. I hope for a mack x-treme spinner. I know its not that propably but it would be great.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’d be amazing!

    • @math_build
      @math_build 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It seems like they are clearing out some office buildings behind euromir so it's most likely an entirely new coaster. But the park honors its legacy so why would they not replace one of their first spinner coasters with a newer generation spinner?

    • @dag9336
      @dag9336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Apart from
      Being too long for me, my experience was extremely uncomfortable. Blue fire, silver star and wodan remain my personal favorites

  • @Hshdjdjdhd
    @Hshdjdjdhd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Europapark got buold aeound the lakes, waters and many old trees. Thats why its so authentic, because nature is still old there

  • @Luke_Go
    @Luke_Go 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I grew up with Europa Park. During the 80s, we thought that Europa Park was Disneyland in Europe.
    For us it was amazing having our own Disneyland. We never considered this as negative.

  • @tobiz1922
    @tobiz1922 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    EP is my home park but my last visit was in 2019 so I plan to go there soon. Last year I visited Phantasialand for the first time and for me EP is the better one by far. I feel like people only talk about how great F.L.Y and Taron are and never mention the negatives. What I disliked the most is that everything is so cramped together. No matter where you are you're looking straight against walls and it's not unusual for the queue lines to just go through an ugly cage. Yes, the coaster surrounding you is cool but you also feel like a prisoner sometimes. As someone who is used to Wodan tier queue lines this is a bummer.
    And the theming...isn't that great? There are no details to find, no hidden parts to explore. For me huge grey walls is not what I consider "best theming ever". Phantasialand looks nice and great and all that but something is missing. F.L.Y. looks absolutely amazing but it's only one part of the park. So for me EP outclasses Phantasialand's theming by a mile. Same for the coasters. I was only able to get a ride on Taron, F.L.Y. and Colorado because Black Mamba and Chiapas were closed. And I had no idea the others even existed lol. Maybe I'm getting old but the forces were a bit too much for me especially on Taron which I don't want to ride a 2nd time. Maybe I had a bad day but I've never felt like this before. People criticize EP for having a bad coaster line up because they're not that forceful in general...but that's what I prefere actually. I know that Taron and F.L.Y. are objectively really good especially if you like great forces but EP has better coasters FOR ME.
    As a side note: You said if you go there and don't ride anything you'll still going to have a good time which is actually EP's goal. In the biography of Roland Mack it is described how they wanted to make sure that you can experience enough by just walking through the park so the whole family (young and old) can enjoy their time.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with so much you said! That's one of my main issues with Phantasialand as well.

  • @Kosmat_
    @Kosmat_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    unfortunately I won't have the opportunity to visit europa park for now :(

  • @raduisgood5059
    @raduisgood5059 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I loved the new voltron

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was going to go to Disneyland Paris but Europa Park stole my heart I now want to stay at hotel bell rock

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the best park for quality of rides in Europe

  • @Breadfan00
    @Breadfan00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:59 😂

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Voltron puts this park number one against Phantasialand

  • @frankk1pro484
    @frankk1pro484 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Europa Park is also the theme park with the most attractions, with over 100, worldwide.
    Even every Disney park in America can't keep up in terms of the number of attractions. Magic Kingdom has just 41 attractions. That's even less than Disney Paris with 50.
    Only all Disney World parks in America together have more attractions than Europa Park. That's a fact. But each one individually is far from Europa Park. Disney Land Paris can't keep up either. It doesn't even have half the number of attractions.
    And by the way, Europa Park is not just the best park in Europe.
    Europa-Park Rust has been voted the "best theme park in the world" in 2024 by a US magazine. Thanks in part to "Voltron Nevera", the "best new roller coaster in the world".
    As in recent years, too -

  • @flipperion
    @flipperion หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sure is a great park but i feel like people dont think enough about the past incidents. Its not something that happens often in theme park. I've never been there but all these events just makes me think...

  • @TheKilaby
    @TheKilaby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You make it sound like the fires were intentional, but trust me, us germans take insurances for everything its totally normal that they would have an insurance on hand for that stuff.

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It still is a little bit weird though

    • @TheKilaby
      @TheKilaby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coaster_Critic i can understand that from your perspective, but me as a local and all the people i know didnt bat an eye on that situation. especialy the second "rebuilding" is more of a downgrade. The previous gem mine with its mechanical dragon was way better then the boring mountain range they have replaced it with. There was no real reason to burn those areas specifically as they where still good and kicking. Only the pirates of batavia are better then before the rest is either exactly the same or worse.

    • @TheKilaby
      @TheKilaby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coaster_Critic and not to mention in these cases, the police is doing a throughout investigation to find out if it was fraud/intentional or an accident. If it was intentional it would have been known by the police. And the park would have taken major risks if that were to become public.

  • @dag9336
    @dag9336 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Europa Park to bits, so much so that I’ve been there three times in the last 12 months. But they have a huge problem: their customer service, and the way they deal with foreigners other than French people. Every time, or dare I say almost every day I spent there, I had unpleasant interactions with cast members there, at Rulantica and Rüst in general. I usually politely greet everyone in German to then ask “English?”. In the best situation they look annoyed af (they rarely don’t give miserable vibes) , at worst they reply rudely in German, something I unfortunately don’t understand. For a park of this magnitude I believe it’s absurd. And I’m Italian. Again that goes for the park, Rulantica (where I always get the Hyggedal pass, where one expects people to be extremely well mannered, and yet…) and with the local gastehaus. Sometime I have to write down stuff on google translate to make myself understood. It pains me to say this, but it’s affecting my experience so much that I’m not sure if I’d consider returning anytime soon. I don’t expect the Disneyland level of treatment, but come on….anybody else has had similar experience and feelings? How do you cope?

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's interesting, I found their customer service to be very good and accommodating with English speakers

  • @BeMaC
    @BeMaC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good Park, for my Phantasialand is the better park in germany :)

  • @minecraftmatics3544
    @minecraftmatics3544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cant find any thrill flatride. Definietly a huge gap in their lineup! Also, the ads are sometimes really killing the scenery. And you cant say that Blue Fire's elements are solid, when you call voltron's corks "dead spots". Exept for the heartline roll, blue fire is a dead rollercoaster from your definition. No forces, no airtime - sadly. This is what i criticize

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What kind of flat thrill ride are you talking about?

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I view Blue Fire and Voltron differently: I call Blue Fire's elements solid because there's nothing else to compare them to whereas the same elements on Voltron are "dead spots" since the rest of the ride is much better.

    • @minecraftmatics3544
      @minecraftmatics3544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ve7hn2dh8h There is no thrill flat ride at ep. I would really like to see one, like a drop tower, coming to that park.

  • @ashlinorrell3490
    @ashlinorrell3490 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was at Europa-Park last week. Theming is insane.
    I thought front row voltron was elite but didnt love any other rows. Found the back row uncomfortable, especially on the outside.
    Personally i found silver star a bit gutless. Wished the first half was a snappy as the second half.
    I loved Arthur! What a lovely ride. Especially loved the part where you fly over everyone's heads.
    Great park.

  • @companiero564
    @companiero564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think Phantasialand is better. It has a better Overall experience and Costers than EP

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Better coasters? Definitely not... Even before voltron it was more of a draw since EP had already more coasters, but now, not a chance

    • @user-ve7hn2dh8h
      @user-ve7hn2dh8h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And overall experience neither.. The waiting times are longer even when the Park is not crowded because EP has the better operations and runs more trains on their coasters. And PL is usually also more crowded. And they're also not maintaining their coasters as well in PL

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Especially with Voltron, I definitely prefer EP's coaster collection, and while overall experience is subjective, I find Europa Park's both more charming and impressive

    • @companiero564
      @companiero564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ve7hn2dh8h EP has nothing Interesting. Not a single Coaster thats really outstanding from others in the World. Voltron is vibrating like its 8 years old and all the other coasters are just in poor mack quality. Silver star probably the best. PL has way more epic rides which you cant experience anywhere else. A Silver star or a Blue Fire can bee found all over the World.
      PL has so much Prototypes in their Park, which I thinks leads to higher Downtime. The maintance is equal in both parks I think, because in germany there is are strict rules on how often and what has to be done. EP has the advantage that Mack is around the Corner.
      An outstanding Ride like Winjas which is manufactured by Maurer & Söhne is in case of an bigger issue not around the corner.
      The Theming in PL is way more immersive and the Advertising and Money Machines in EP just destroy the whole immersion.
      In my opinion EP is overrated and offers nothing but middle-class fun.

  • @CoastereagleDE
    @CoastereagleDE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The insurance Company of europapark has to be feel tricked af

  • @j.ott_coasters
    @j.ott_coasters 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please, if you ever want to read out a german name, ask me for a lesson, this is horrible 😂😂

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can’t be much worse than your English pronunciations haha

    • @j.ott_coasters
      @j.ott_coasters 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coaster_Critic maybe

  • @Homebanner666
    @Homebanner666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Europa Park is a very good park but gor the budget they have, the arrogance of the leaders and their daydream of bering on the same level as Disney and dresmworks as well as a lot of shit happening backstage i would never call this park "best of europe

    • @Coaster_Critic
      @Coaster_Critic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I completely disagree

    • @Homebanner666
      @Homebanner666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coaster_Critic your opinion, my opinion