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03:43 your face is priceless floor is a good singer but she sucks balls because thats tarja song no matter how you put it and floor is just not as good as tarja
There are songs that I think fit Tarja better, and songs that fit Floor better. I will never say one singer was better than the other for everything because they're not. I personally think this song fits Tarja's style better and enjoy it more with her singing. But there are songs that once Floor sings them she owns them. Also, let's not forget about Anette. Where as she wasn't that good (IMO mind you) on the more classical pieces, she could sing the hell out of their rock songs that were written for her. Every singer has their strengths and weaknesses.
completely agree, I have a preference for one over the other but they are all great in there own way. Anette wasn't as strong live (my opinion) but as you said she can sing the hell out of songs written for her. I may like a singer better than another, but will never say one is better than the other. after all, Floor and Tarja are still good friends.
There are some old songs that fit Tarja perfectly, the epic ones (Wishmaster etc.), cause she has such a notable classy ‘fantasy’ timbre. Floor is better in Celtic or brutal/metal stuff because of her warrior energy 😅
Yes I agree 100%. I am a Nightwish fan first and while I love Floor I would also agree that Tarja on this song is outstanding. You really can't go wrong with a Nighwish song for sure.
Yeah, it always kinda weirded me out hearing one of them sing a song that was written for a different singer. They each had their own style and the songs were definitely written with them in mind. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the version of each song that I heard first, but I can't think of any other bands or singers where it was so obvious to me that they're singing someone else's song.
@@Ephelle AC/DC comes to mind. :D To me no one can sing a Bon Scott song the way he did. I have the utmost respect for Brian Johnson and what he's done for the band, but the way Bon sang is completely different to the way Brian sings. Hearing Brian sing Dirty Deeds makes me cringe a bit, but then I try to imagine Bon singing Thunderstruck and I just can't. A new singer joining a band does they best they can with older songs. Sometimes they knock it out of the park, and sometimes it's just not the same.
Floor is a great singer... she is perfect for nightwish today, there is no better choice. But she has one problem: she came after Tarja. And most of the early nightwish-fans, who "grew up" with Tarja and all these songs, fell in love with them - with the band, with this classical metal combination, that was something completely new in that time. It was a great time, that will never come back again. Nightwish has many new great songs, but these old songs - they were Tarja-Songs, and they will always be. When Floor sings them, it just feels like a cover (but of course a good cover 😄)
It's this easy for me. Tarja makes me feel a way. Goodbumps. Bone marrow vibrating. She takes you places. Floor not as much. Both are good. Fine, No complaint. But Tarja is special. And it matched with Marko and Jukka.
Yes, very different in their aproach but,both outstanding singers and regarded by many,as the top in their craft. Preferences will always have some "discusions" (say the least)but these ladies have earned their place in music history. Well done Beth.👍🤘 greetings from Spain.
One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard by any band. Both Tarja and Floor are simply breathtaking to listen to. So nice to watch your reaction.
I appreciate your approach. I often see people in comments on social media pitting these women against each other as if it's a competition and their approaches to music and sound are so different but so great. It's nice to see that highlighted. 💙
Thank you for this reaction. Tarja is my favorite female singer since 25 years. She has such a unique and beautiful voice. But also powerful. There’s something special and magical in it. She not only studied here in Germany. Tarja also studied in Finland. At a Highschool for music and at the famous Sibelius Academy. She was the first to graduate with top grade. The Nightwish songs from Tarja’s era will always belong to her. 🤘🏻
I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go. In the Nightwish backlog, there are some songs that are suited maybe a little more for the one or the other type of singing, and one can enjoy the different approaches. And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography, brings more variety to the table. Tarja is firmly rooted in the more operatic style, while Floor... as the saying goes, Floor doesn't sing what she can, but sings what she wants. We get to hear anything from growls over powerful belts to goosebumps inducing operatic style (Shoemaker! Ad Astra!).
Tarja's signature sound is definitely the more operatic one, but at this point she also has a chestier _and_ a lighter voice that she uses, which I love!! Have you seen her perforn House of Wax - live at Genelec Artist Room? So unlike anything you'd expect from her but definitely showing she's less limited than people assume :) You should check it our if you haven't seen it, just out of curiousity maybe! :)
"I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go.- - And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography - -". I see you really don't know that Tarja has amazing range and many singing techniques as well.
I love your analysis. It helps me to understand what i am hearing. Its not about better, but its different. I appreciate the performances of both artist even more. thank you. I love Tarja as well as Floor. Can't help, at a personal taste i like at this moment of time Floor version. And i read it before, the studio album of Annette maybe my favourite.
Thanks so much for getting back to Tarja. 🖤Sleeping Sun is a beautiful song, and I love Tarja's version from the Metal Church concert or her recent cover with Steve 'n' Seagulls. In the first case, I find her voice much cleaner, and in the second, it's an interesting combination with the bluegrass style. Overall, I prefer Tarja's cleaner voice as she developed it after leaving Nightwish. But of course I love her work with the band too so much. She was amazing with them too. From Metal Church, I highly recommend her cover of Avegend Sevenfold's Afterlife. She uses her voice very diversely there.
Tarja always was my favorite nightwish's singer so underrated but she's a Finland treasure and always will be love so much her style i would like you hopefully react her music solo like "I walk alone"or "until my last breath" among others great songs she had.
finland let her star live in Argentina XDDDDDD and she enriched so much with arg folk music. that for sure that Tarja now has x2 x4 better than that tarja
Lovely reaction. I really enjoyed the insights and analysis on the different techniques that they used to create a beautiful and powerful performance. This is one song where I love both Tarja and Floor's performances equally. Different but equally powerful and emotional.
Great video! Without hearing them side by side, I don't think I would have expected the two of them to approach the same song so differently. I'd love to see you do more comparisons like this. :)
I am very happy that you appreciate both singers and just point out the differences. Many commenters speak ill of one of the two singers. This is daft because it is so obvious that both singers are of high quality. And apart from this the song is absolutely beautiful as are many songs that Tuomas Holopainen wrote for Nightwish. Thank you!
I can't listen to Floor singing those old songs, I genuinely hate it. I stopped listening to Nightwish after Tarja has left, I just can't, it's not the same sound I fell in love with in 2004 or so. I do think that Floor is a good fit for them and that they're still a good rock band, but it's not for me anymore. Tarja's new stuff I listen to sometimes, but it's not the same too, the magic is not there, almost, but no :-) EDIT: Didn't mention Annette, I actually quite liked Amaranth and Bye Bye Beautiful, but it was so obviously not Nightwish that I never thought that she's there for long. Although the way they've parted sours me to the post Tarja version of the band even more.
When it comes to Tarja, I was very anti-Floor (even though I only saw her with Nightwish 2 times live), and my first impression with this video was, that you cant really compare Floor with Tarja. But I started to notice now great Floor is singing some parts. It is different, but still great. My love for Tarja's version didnt let me see this, but now I could hear it more clearly :) Even though lots of people love Floor, I did underestimated her, but this comparison helped me see her greatness as well, thank you
Christmas 2022 i was in Tallinn, Estonia watching her special short tour show "Christmas Together" she was singing most of the classical songs, was so beautiful, a lot of people crying :) But regarding Nightwish, happy that i got to see her sing when she was still in the band and when they were on their peak :)
You may not read this since it's a month too late, but I read that Tarja said this was a difficult song because the breathing was so much different than what her training taught her (or something like that). I think both Tarja and Floor are great and I like that you show the difference of how they were trained kinda defines how they sing differently.
Not related, I was listening to my Robin Trower compilation and I noticed in places that Jimmy Dewar's vocals had been doubled occasionally and he uses (to me) a surprising amount of vibrato which is reflected in the guitar effects sometimes. This is because of you telling us about these things. I experianced music that I'd been listening to since it was new in a new way today after literally decades of hearing it. Thank you so much, I'm properly happy about this. I'm adding your Patreon😊
Beth, love your reaction films. I highly recomend Auri 2, Pearls, a Celtic folk project from Toumas, his amazing wife Joanna, Troy and Kai from Nightwish
We Nightwish fans have been very blessed. I prefer Floor in this instance, but both are lovely performances. I give Floor the nod, simply because this performance has brought me to tears on occasion.🇬🇧👍
Opera singers use so-called squillo - a resonant, trumpet-like sound - to cut through an orchestra. Franco Corelli and Mario Lanza were very good at this.
Pretty much any pre-microphone (in opera) era singer was good at this, otherwise people wouldn't be able to hear them :-) Now, I understand why you mention Corelli, arguably the best spinto ever, but Lanza sang with microphone, you can't really tell how his voice was shaped, you can clearly hear the ringing in the recordings but how much of it is amplification is hard to tell. I personally love and adore Lanza, that's where my journey into the world of opera has started, but I would probably not mention him and Corelli in one sentence talking about operatic technique, the levels are too far apart :-)
The fact is Floor can do everything Tarja can and more. This is speaking about technique. Floor's diction of the English language also helped Nightwish reach a much broader audience than with Tarja. Keep in mind I've listened to Nightwish since the beginning, so I was actually biased towards Tarja, but the years have taught me that fair is fair. Floor's versatility, range, stage presence and charisma have made her the best nightwish singer so far. My opinion, of course. Tastes differ.
Being a "fan" of Nightwish has nothing to do with Tarja.. She's the reason I was never a fan when they started.. Can't stand her singing, sounds like a cat on a tin roof, ccan't understand half the words she sings and she's off pitch constantly.. Didn't become a fan untill Floor completed Nightwish, Floor is on point every time, powerfull, emotinal, empathic, the full package..
You can tell Tarja was quite ill and breathy here but I love her voice on this song, especially the older versions when her voice was darker and rounder. Such a beautiful track ❣Thank you for this reaction and analysis! :)
I wonder why do people allways have to make this excuse? Opera singer Maggie Renee reacted to a different recording of Sleeping Sun with Tarja and also came to the conclusion that Tarja's technique is not optimal. Also in the comments of that video people started making excuses about Tarja's health... So is Tarja always sick? O might there be another problem?
Also it's not an excuse, it's simply a fact. It's also a fact that she's not a professional opera singer. And Tarja is the first one to say she does not sing perfect and that she makes mistakes when she performs live. But she also says that she sings with her heart and I care more about that than about a perfect technique. If I wanted perfect I'd listen to auto tune.
@@karadenizin-kizi Maybe... But it never has been perfect and her current technique is even worse. You don't believe me? Just listen to Tarja trying to sing Nemo live in Serbia in october 2022... It is terrible. And the thing is that all these Tarja-zelots are convinced that Tarja is "on another level" and has "superior technique". Which she doesn't. As a singer Floor has a much better technique and a much better control over her voice than Tarja. Now it can be that you like Tarja's sound better than Floor's sound. If that is so, fine, you are welcome to it! But this shouting about the superiority of Tarja needs to be corrected. Tarja is a special talent with a special voice (which I happen not to like...) but she is far from perfect and actually not a very good singer at all.
It's like comparing apples and oranges. They're both awesome and delicious in their individual way... it's just up to personal preference. For me personally, I like Floor, she's got a hell of a stage presence, but there is only one Tarja, and her style fits the ORIGINAL Nightwish sound better for me. Tarja has a power and purity in her notes that Floor just doesn't have for me, and her range is far superior.
I prefer Tarja for this song. Some others, I prefer Floor. Most, I couldn't pick which is better if my life depended on it. I like my belts, so I prefer Floor on more songs, but that's personal preference, not skill.
Thank you for paying attention and appreciating Nightwish of Tarja's era. It looks like most of reactors on TH-cam are obsessed with Floor and almost totally ignore the band in its earlier years. Don't get me wrong, Floor does great job in the band, including singing of many Tarja's era songs brilliantly, but Tarja was also great in the band and the band was great with her. "Sleeping Sun" is one of the songs that's been and will remain a song for Tarja to sing, imho. As a side note: please, don't pronounce it like /ʤ/ in her name. It's close to /j/, like in "you".
... but no one much react to Anette Olzon who joined for two years or so in-between (but apparently could not handle the rigorous touring schedule). The Blaze Bailey of Nightwish :)
You have probably already seen it, but I'd love to hear your insights on the "Phantom of the Opera" live performance with Tarja at the helm. Cheers from Patagonia!
I don't like to compare Tarja, Anette or Floor. All these wonderful women have their own strengths and place in Nightwish history. Some songs suit one person better than another. 😊 Tarja started the charm, Anette broke records and Floor charmed everyone. Greetings from Finland! Kiitos! 😊🤘🏻
Me encantó lo profesional que fuiste al comparar los contrastes distintos de ambas cantantes es de aplaudir no cualquier reactor interpreta de esta forma siempre lo hacen anteponiendo el favoritismo estupendo análisis y te recomiendo a Tarja como SOLISTA porfavor si puedes analizar su rango vocal es que aún sigue estudiando canto y vocalización en la actualidad de hecho para Tarja su prioridad es de cuidar su voz tiene inclusive unos tratamientos para sus cuerdas vocales para no perder esa voz aguda estridente gótica espeluznante y teatral super versátil de acuerdo como a ella le parece toca notas vocales increíbles aqui te dejo un listado de canciones de Tarja con su propia banda creada desde el año 2006 Supremacy cover de Muse en el Woodstock 2016 Víctim of Ritual desde woodstock 2016 Over the Hills an fard Away desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Innocense desde Live Circus Life 2022 Diva desde Life Circus Life 2022 Naiad desde Life Circus Life 2022 Shadow Play desde Live Circus Life 2022 Until my last Breath desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 I WALK ALONE desde el Teatro Círculo de Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja y Scorpions The Good Die Young Live 2010 Tarja y Doro Pesch Walking whit The Angels Live 2009 Tarja y Whitin Temptation Paradise desde M'era Luna 2016 Tarja y Alissa White_Gluz Demons in you Wacken 2016 Tarja cover de Nightwish Nemo desde Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja Sing for me Masters of Rock 2016 Tarja Walking in the Air desde Raskata Joulua 2018 Tarja Never Enough desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja Medley de Bon Jovi Where Were You Last Night live Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja cover de Nightwish Passion and the opera Remastered 2007 Tarja Medley de Nightwish desde Hellfest 2016 Tarja Undertaker live Milán 2020 Tarja Turunen y Marko Hietala Phantom of the ópera desde Olavinlinna 2023 Tarja Oasis desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tarja My Little Phoenix desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Lost Nothern Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 In for a Kill desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Die Alive desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Tired of Being Alone desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Dark Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Falling Awake desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 The Reing desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Cirian's Well desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Still of the Night desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 The Crying Moo'n live desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2011 Tarja y Diego Valdés Phantom of the ópera desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Acustic Set desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Neverlight Rusia 2014 Tarja cover de Nightwish Sleeping Sun con Steven'N' Seagull año 2021 Tarja cover de Nightwish Lippi live 2010 Tarja Poison live 2020 Tarja cover de Nightwish Wishmaster desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2016 Tarja cover de Metallica The Unforgiven live Metal Church 2023 Tarja cover de Nightwish Stargenzers Live Buenos Aires Argentina 2011 No Bitter end oficial music video 2016 Love to hate live Metrópolis, London 2018 Tarja cover de Nightwish The Siren desde oficial live 2020 Tarja cover de Nightwish White Night Fantasic Live Ostrava 2010 Deliverance live Bratislava 2014 Little Lies desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 Eagle Eye live Berlín 2016 Crimson Deep desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012 500Letters desde woodstock 2016 Desde Paraguay apoyo este canal 🇵🇾🖤🧜🏻♀️👑🤘🏻💣💥🔥🔥🔥
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There is no Tarja vs Floor. There is Tarja AND Floor. Putting singers up against each other is unfortunate thing to do in this toxic fanbase where everything is a competition.Reality tv generation doesn't know any better.The song is a Nightwish song and the band doesn't compete against itself.Watch this comment section fill up with who did it better and with backhanded compliments. Entitled fans make it all about themselves.Whole _____VS._____ is immature and music should never be a competition said Tuomas Holopainen, a man who made this masterpiece. Old band as Nightwish is deseves respect. I don't care who sings what. Every member contributed to a legacy of Nightwish.
Please react to Rosa de Saron - in concert - A Phoenix ft. Carmen Monarcha. This is a Brazilian rock band "Rosa de Saron", from they "in concert" album, song "A Phoenix". It was recorded few months ago with a philharmonic camera (of Indaiatuba). Carmen Monarcha and the Livre Choir bright this song to make it so gorgeous. For me, it's the best brazilian live song I ever listen. I would love to listen your opinion for those singers and the song itself.
Definitely prefer Tarja on this song, and a few others (Phantom of the Opera, Dead Boy's Poem), but Floor is best for others (especially Ghost Love Score). Both great performers for Nightwish.
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reactors should know that it's never a good idea to compare singers in a "vs" manner from the same band especially with NW given their history
Tarja (reads Tarya) is one of my favourite and most epic singers in the world, along with Sharon den Adel, Simone Simons and you Beth. 🧡
03:43 your face is priceless
floor is a good singer but she sucks balls because thats tarja song no matter how you put it and floor is just not as good as tarja
There are songs that I think fit Tarja better, and songs that fit Floor better. I will never say one singer was better than the other for everything because they're not. I personally think this song fits Tarja's style better and enjoy it more with her singing. But there are songs that once Floor sings them she owns them. Also, let's not forget about Anette. Where as she wasn't that good (IMO mind you) on the more classical pieces, she could sing the hell out of their rock songs that were written for her. Every singer has their strengths and weaknesses.
completely agree, I have a preference for one over the other but they are all great in there own way. Anette wasn't as strong live (my opinion) but as you said she can sing the hell out of songs written for her.
I may like a singer better than another, but will never say one is better than the other. after all, Floor and Tarja are still good friends.
There are some old songs that fit Tarja perfectly, the epic ones (Wishmaster etc.), cause she has such a notable classy ‘fantasy’ timbre. Floor is better in Celtic or brutal/metal stuff because of her warrior energy 😅
Yes I agree 100%. I am a Nightwish fan first and while I love Floor I would also agree that Tarja on this song is outstanding. You really can't go wrong with a Nighwish song for sure.
Yeah, it always kinda weirded me out hearing one of them sing a song that was written for a different singer. They each had their own style and the songs were definitely written with them in mind. Maybe it's just because I'm used to the version of each song that I heard first, but I can't think of any other bands or singers where it was so obvious to me that they're singing someone else's song.
@@Ephelle AC/DC comes to mind. :D To me no one can sing a Bon Scott song the way he did. I have the utmost respect for Brian Johnson and what he's done for the band, but the way Bon sang is completely different to the way Brian sings. Hearing Brian sing Dirty Deeds makes me cringe a bit, but then I try to imagine Bon singing Thunderstruck and I just can't. A new singer joining a band does they best they can with older songs. Sometimes they knock it out of the park, and sometimes it's just not the same.
Tarja tem uma voz incrivel classica lirica. Amoo ❤
Tarja tinha a cara do Nightwish
Floor is a great singer... she is perfect for nightwish today, there is no better choice. But she has one problem: she came after Tarja. And most of the early nightwish-fans, who "grew up" with Tarja and all these songs, fell in love with them - with the band, with this classical metal combination, that was something completely new in that time. It was a great time, that will never come back again. Nightwish has many new great songs, but these old songs - they were Tarja-Songs, and they will always be. When Floor sings them, it just feels like a cover (but of course a good cover 😄)
true words! I love Floor and their style how she is singing the old Nightwish songs, but the old songs were always Tarja Songs
Both are beautiful and I like them. But.. Tarja's voice is easy to recognize from 1000 blind auditions from the first note.
It's this easy for me. Tarja makes me feel a way. Goodbumps. Bone marrow vibrating. She takes you places. Floor not as much. Both are good. Fine, No complaint. But Tarja is special. And it matched with Marko and Jukka.
Always hated Tarja's singing. With her sharp distorted vowels she murdered the english language.
@@arturama8581 eleven?
mainly because of her accent i guess
I just love both Tarja and her voice.
She has thicker, deeper voice, compared to most female singers, who have thin and annoying voice.
Thank you!! Tarja and Floor are so different singers. I love them both!!
Such a beautiful voice, i love Tarja❤
Now you need to check out Tarja and Steven'seaguls. They done amazing cover of this lovely song. Metal greatings 🤘
Oh yes
Yes, very different in their aproach but,both outstanding singers and regarded by many,as the top in their craft. Preferences will always have some "discusions" (say the least)but these ladies have earned their place in music history. Well done Beth.👍🤘 greetings from Spain.
One of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard by any band. Both Tarja and Floor are simply breathtaking to listen to. So nice to watch your reaction.
Finally a Tarja video, thank you :)
I appreciate your approach. I often see people in comments on social media pitting these women against each other as if it's a competition and their approaches to music and sound are so different but so great. It's nice to see that highlighted. 💙
What? If 'TARJA vs FLOOR ' (that is her own headline) isn't a competition then what is?
Tarja and Floor is great singers. You are amazing Beth. Your reaction videos is wonderful.
Thank you for this reaction. Tarja is my favorite female singer since 25 years. She has such a unique and beautiful voice. But also powerful. There’s something special and magical in it.
She not only studied here in Germany. Tarja also studied in Finland. At a Highschool for music and at the famous Sibelius Academy.
She was the first to graduate with top grade.
The Nightwish songs from Tarja’s era will always belong to her. 🤘🏻
This song is for Tarja ❤
I love the comparison between two singers singing the same song. I hope you do more like this.
I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go. In the Nightwish backlog, there are some songs that are suited maybe a little more for the one or the other type of singing, and one can enjoy the different approaches. And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography, brings more variety to the table. Tarja is firmly rooted in the more operatic style, while Floor... as the saying goes, Floor doesn't sing what she can, but sings what she wants. We get to hear anything from growls over powerful belts to goosebumps inducing operatic style (Shoemaker! Ad Astra!).
Tarja's signature sound is definitely the more operatic one, but at this point she also has a chestier _and_ a lighter voice that she uses, which I love!! Have you seen her perforn House of Wax - live at Genelec Artist Room? So unlike anything you'd expect from her but definitely showing she's less limited than people assume :) You should check it our if you haven't seen it, just out of curiousity maybe! :)
"I agree that hboth are fantastic vocalists in their own rights, and any discussion if any one is "better" than the other is null and void from the get go.- - And it is strictly my own opinion that over all, Floor just has a few more tools in her box and over the whole discography - -". I see you really don't know that Tarja has amazing range and many singing techniques as well.
Oh by surprise, you did both singers. But even just beth and tarja are fire. Great you were doing your videos all over the years 🙏 thanks Beth !
I love your analysis. It helps me to understand what i am hearing. Its not about better, but its different. I appreciate the performances of both artist even more. thank you. I love Tarja as well as Floor. Can't help, at a personal taste i like at this moment of time Floor version. And i read it before, the studio album of Annette maybe my favourite.
Now you understand what Tuomas meant in "Dead Boy's Poem" when he wrote "Wrote for the eclipse, wrote for the virgin...".
The Crow, The Owl and The Dove. Anette and Marko singing together makes me very emotional.
Thanks so much for getting back to Tarja. 🖤Sleeping Sun is a beautiful song, and I love Tarja's version from the Metal Church concert or her recent cover with Steve 'n' Seagulls. In the first case, I find her voice much cleaner, and in the second, it's an interesting combination with the bluegrass style. Overall, I prefer Tarja's cleaner voice as she developed it after leaving Nightwish. But of course I love her work with the band too so much. She was amazing with them too. From Metal Church, I highly recommend her cover of Avegend Sevenfold's Afterlife. She uses her voice very diversely there.
Tarja always was my favorite nightwish's singer so underrated but she's a Finland treasure and always will be love so much her style i would like you hopefully react her music solo like "I walk alone"or "until my last breath" among others great songs she had.
finland let her star live in Argentina XDDDDDD and she enriched so much with arg folk music. that for sure that Tarja now has x2 x4 better than that tarja
Tuomas is so good at writing for the singer (and musicians) that he has with him, and also allowing them to put their own slant on the music.
Lovely reaction. I really enjoyed the insights and analysis on the different techniques that they used to create a beautiful and powerful performance. This is one song where I love both Tarja and Floor's performances equally. Different but equally powerful and emotional.
Great video! Without hearing them side by side, I don't think I would have expected the two of them to approach the same song so differently. I'd love to see you do more comparisons like this. :)
Tara's voice makes my hairs raise every time
Some days I prefer to listen to old Nightwish, some days I prefer new. They are both fantastic indeed ❤
100%
It is so so hard, both are so great. 😊
Hello Beth, welcome back and greetings from Reading, UK
Another fantastic reaction, thank you 😉
I am very happy that you appreciate both singers and just point out the differences. Many commenters speak ill of one of the two singers. This is daft because it is so obvious that both singers are of high quality. And apart from this the song is absolutely beautiful as are many songs that Tuomas Holopainen wrote for Nightwish. Thank you!
I can't listen to Floor singing those old songs, I genuinely hate it. I stopped listening to Nightwish after Tarja has left, I just can't, it's not the same sound I fell in love with in 2004 or so. I do think that Floor is a good fit for them and that they're still a good rock band, but it's not for me anymore. Tarja's new stuff I listen to sometimes, but it's not the same too, the magic is not there, almost, but no :-)
EDIT: Didn't mention Annette, I actually quite liked Amaranth and Bye Bye Beautiful, but it was so obviously not Nightwish that I never thought that she's there for long. Although the way they've parted sours me to the post Tarja version of the band even more.
When it comes to Tarja, I was very anti-Floor (even though I only saw her with Nightwish 2 times live), and my first impression with this video was, that you cant really compare Floor with Tarja. But I started to notice now great Floor is singing some parts. It is different, but still great. My love for Tarja's version didnt let me see this, but now I could hear it more clearly :)
Even though lots of people love Floor, I did underestimated her, but this comparison helped me see her greatness as well, thank you
Christmas 2022 i was in Tallinn, Estonia watching her special short tour show "Christmas Together" she was singing most of the classical songs, was so beautiful, a lot of people crying :) But regarding Nightwish, happy that i got to see her sing when she was still in the band and when they were on their peak :)
I very much love the Tarja version where she sings in the green :)
Absolutely the vocal duel I have been waiting for...Thank you Beth for taking this on.
Hey Beth there is a version with Steve'n'seagulls, listen to your joy it is amazing.
Yes Sleeping Sun Tarja and Steven'N' Seagull año 2021😍🧜🏻♀️👑🔥🔥
I really really loved the way you taught in this video. Thanks you ❤
Floor é incrível, Tarja é deusa! Tive o privilégio de vê-la ao vivo, divina 😊
You may not read this since it's a month too late, but I read that Tarja said this was a difficult song because the breathing was so much different than what her training taught her (or something like that). I think both Tarja and Floor are great and I like that you show the difference of how they were trained kinda defines how they sing differently.
Thank you for reacting to my favourite song by Nightwish
Not related, I was listening to my Robin Trower compilation and I noticed in places that Jimmy Dewar's vocals had been doubled occasionally and he uses (to me) a surprising amount of vibrato which is reflected in the guitar effects sometimes. This is because of you telling us about these things. I experianced music that I'd been listening to since it was new in a new way today after literally decades of hearing it. Thank you so much, I'm properly happy about this. I'm adding your Patreon😊
This is so lovely!
She has been doing a few Nightwish or Nightwish-associated songs with Marko recently, including Ever Dream.
Maravilloso lo que acabo de escuchar esa voz en conjunto con la música me encantó mucho bien mi H Prrj ❤ tu reacción fabulosa Beth 💥👏👏🍀🍀
Beth, love your reaction films. I highly recomend Auri 2, Pearls, a Celtic folk project from Toumas, his amazing wife Joanna, Troy and Kai from Nightwish
I forgot how much I loved this band.
A fan ever since the Alone in The Dark soundtrack.
Excellent!!
Great video Beth! Congrats
We Nightwish fans have been very blessed.
I prefer Floor in this instance, but both are lovely performances.
I give Floor the nod, simply because this performance has brought me to tears on occasion.🇬🇧👍
Tarja 4ever
Floor is perfect... humanly... Tarja is just magic!
Floor is my #1, but this is one of those songs that Tarja owns 100 %.
Opera singers use so-called squillo - a resonant, trumpet-like sound - to cut through an orchestra. Franco Corelli and Mario Lanza were very good at this.
Pretty much any pre-microphone (in opera) era singer was good at this, otherwise people wouldn't be able to hear them :-) Now, I understand why you mention Corelli, arguably the best spinto ever, but Lanza sang with microphone, you can't really tell how his voice was shaped, you can clearly hear the ringing in the recordings but how much of it is amplification is hard to tell.
I personally love and adore Lanza, that's where my journey into the world of opera has started, but I would probably not mention him and Corelli in one sentence talking about operatic technique, the levels are too far apart :-)
Tarja forever!
The fact is Floor can do everything Tarja can and more. This is speaking about technique. Floor's diction of the English language also helped Nightwish reach a much broader audience than with Tarja. Keep in mind I've listened to Nightwish since the beginning, so I was actually biased towards Tarja, but the years have taught me that fair is fair. Floor's versatility, range, stage presence and charisma have made her the best nightwish singer so far. My opinion, of course. Tastes differ.
I can not stand When so called fans put down Tarja. Nightwish is band from Finland.There is room for all three singers in my world.
Being a "fan" of Nightwish has nothing to do with Tarja.. She's the reason I was never a fan when they started.. Can't stand her singing, sounds like a cat on a tin roof, ccan't understand half the words she sings and she's off pitch constantly..
Didn't become a fan untill Floor completed Nightwish, Floor is on point every time, powerfull, emotinal, empathic, the full package..
@@fredverkerk838we don t put nobody down! I like the Annette songs from her like Medows of heaven and Floor s like Shoumaker.That s all
You can tell Tarja was quite ill and breathy here but I love her voice on this song, especially the older versions when her voice was darker and rounder. Such a beautiful track ❣Thank you for this reaction and analysis! :)
I wonder why do people allways have to make this excuse? Opera singer Maggie Renee reacted to a different recording of Sleeping Sun with Tarja and also came to the conclusion that Tarja's technique is not optimal. Also in the comments of that video people started making excuses about Tarja's health... So is Tarja always sick? O might there be another problem?
@@rientsdijkstra4266 its a fake opera singer
@@rientsdijkstra4266 20 year old Tarja's classical technique was not perfect after 2 whole of years of studying? That's so shocking.
Also it's not an excuse, it's simply a fact. It's also a fact that she's not a professional opera singer. And Tarja is the first one to say she does not sing perfect and that she makes mistakes when she performs live. But she also says that she sings with her heart and I care more about that than about a perfect technique. If I wanted perfect I'd listen to auto tune.
@@karadenizin-kizi Maybe... But it never has been perfect and her current technique is even worse. You don't believe me? Just listen to Tarja trying to sing Nemo live in Serbia in october 2022... It is terrible. And the thing is that all these Tarja-zelots are convinced that Tarja is "on another level" and has "superior technique". Which she doesn't. As a singer Floor has a much better technique and a much better control over her voice than Tarja. Now it can be that you like Tarja's sound better than Floor's sound. If that is so, fine, you are welcome to it! But this shouting about the superiority of Tarja needs to be corrected. Tarja is a special talent with a special voice (which I happen not to like...) but she is far from perfect and actually not a very good singer at all.
It's like comparing apples and oranges. They're both awesome and delicious in their individual way... it's just up to personal preference.
For me personally, I like Floor, she's got a hell of a stage presence, but there is only one Tarja, and her style fits the ORIGINAL Nightwish sound better for me.
Tarja has a power and purity in her notes that Floor just doesn't have for me, and her range is far superior.
I prefer Tarja for this song. Some others, I prefer Floor. Most, I couldn't pick which is better if my life depended on it. I like my belts, so I prefer Floor on more songs, but that's personal preference, not skill.
Both are amazing... but I would choose Tarja first anyday!!
Thank you for paying attention and appreciating Nightwish of Tarja's era. It looks like most of reactors on TH-cam are obsessed with Floor and almost totally ignore the band in its earlier years. Don't get me wrong, Floor does great job in the band, including singing of many Tarja's era songs brilliantly, but Tarja was also great in the band and the band was great with her. "Sleeping Sun" is one of the songs that's been and will remain a song for Tarja to sing, imho. As a side note: please, don't pronounce it like /ʤ/ in her name. It's close to /j/, like in "you".
... but no one much react to Anette Olzon who joined for two years or so in-between (but apparently could not handle the rigorous touring schedule). The Blaze Bailey of Nightwish :)
Tarja is a goddess of the wind. Floor is like a goddess of the sea. Both great. I have more sentimentality for Floor because I've seen her live twice.
FOr me nightwish has always been the best with Tarja
Not only to cut throught an opera, but to go LOUD be heard and sing 5 times a week, so opera sing protects vocal cords
Before there was Floor there was Tarja.......with Simone of 'Epica', these 3 symphonic metal/classical vocalists are just the best ........
Tarja is in a league of her own but she is humble thanks you Beth❤
You have probably already seen it, but I'd love to hear your insights on the "Phantom of the Opera" live performance with Tarja at the helm. Cheers from Patagonia!
Not to mention that Tarja sings it on a higher tunning
Only Tarja, legend
I don't like to compare Tarja, Anette or Floor. All these wonderful women have their own strengths and place in Nightwish history. Some songs suit one person better than another. 😊 Tarja started the charm, Anette broke records and Floor charmed everyone. Greetings from Finland! Kiitos! 😊🤘🏻
I've always liked both versions. They are different (even the arrangement and instrumentation) but each is unique in its own way.
Disagree. Tarja’s in another mood completely.
Me encantó lo profesional que fuiste al comparar los contrastes distintos de ambas cantantes es de aplaudir no cualquier reactor interpreta de esta forma siempre lo hacen anteponiendo el favoritismo estupendo análisis y te recomiendo a Tarja como SOLISTA porfavor si puedes analizar su rango vocal es que aún sigue estudiando canto y vocalización en la actualidad de hecho para Tarja su prioridad es de cuidar su voz tiene inclusive unos tratamientos para sus cuerdas vocales para no perder esa voz aguda estridente gótica espeluznante y teatral super versátil de acuerdo como a ella le parece toca notas vocales increíbles aqui te dejo un listado de canciones de Tarja con su propia banda creada desde el año 2006
Supremacy cover de Muse en el Woodstock 2016
Víctim of Ritual desde woodstock 2016
Over the Hills an fard Away desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Innocense desde Live Circus Life 2022
Diva desde Life Circus Life 2022
Naiad desde Life Circus Life 2022
Shadow Play desde Live Circus Life 2022
Until my last Breath desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
I WALK ALONE desde el Teatro Círculo de Rosario Argentina 2012
Tarja y Scorpions The Good Die Young Live 2010
Tarja y Doro Pesch Walking whit The Angels Live 2009
Tarja y Whitin Temptation Paradise desde M'era Luna 2016
Tarja y Alissa White_Gluz Demons in you Wacken 2016
Tarja cover de Nightwish Nemo desde Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Tarja Sing for me Masters of Rock 2016
Tarja Walking in the Air desde Raskata Joulua 2018
Tarja Never Enough desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Tarja Medley de Bon Jovi Where Were You Last Night live Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Tarja cover de Nightwish Passion and the opera Remastered 2007
Tarja Medley de Nightwish desde Hellfest 2016
Tarja Undertaker live Milán 2020
Tarja Turunen y Marko Hietala Phantom of the ópera desde Olavinlinna 2023
Tarja Oasis desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Tarja My Little Phoenix desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Lost Nothern Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
In for a Kill desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Die Alive desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Tired of Being Alone desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Dark Star desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Falling Awake desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
The Reing desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Cirian's Well desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Still of the Night desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
The Crying Moo'n live desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2011
Tarja y Diego Valdés Phantom of the ópera desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Acustic Set desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Neverlight Rusia 2014
Tarja cover de Nightwish Sleeping Sun con Steven'N' Seagull año 2021
Tarja cover de Nightwish Lippi live 2010
Tarja Poison live 2020
Tarja cover de Nightwish Wishmaster desde Luna Park Buenos Aires Argentina 2016
Tarja cover de Metallica The Unforgiven live Metal Church 2023
Tarja cover de Nightwish Stargenzers Live Buenos Aires Argentina 2011
No Bitter end oficial music video 2016
Love to hate live Metrópolis, London 2018
Tarja cover de Nightwish The Siren desde oficial live 2020
Tarja cover de Nightwish White Night Fantasic Live Ostrava 2010
Deliverance live Bratislava 2014
Little Lies desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
Eagle Eye live Berlín 2016
Crimson Deep desde el Círculo Rosario Argentina 2012
500Letters desde woodstock 2016
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Both versions are beautiful.
I love Tarja and I love Floor. 🍎’s & 🍊’s but both are great.
Awesome Beth
I like the way Tarja sings, her accent, she is better for me, But I love Floor too.
I think you should give Laura Nyro a listen. Try Stoney End. She wrote and sung it when she was just 18.
Tarja rules
Tarja es la luz¡¡
I DONT BELIEVE YOU NOT LISTENED TE VOCALIST OF GRAND FUNK RAILROAD , YET !!!! MY GOD ! STOP THE PLANET EARTH 😂😂😂😂 . YOU ARE MY BEST REACTOR ! Beth.... i hear you calling......😂😂😂😂😂
There is no Tarja vs Floor. There is Tarja AND Floor. Putting singers up against each other is unfortunate thing to do in this toxic fanbase where everything is a competition.Reality tv generation doesn't know any better.The song is a Nightwish song and the band doesn't compete against itself.Watch this comment section fill up with who did it better and with backhanded compliments. Entitled fans make it all about themselves.Whole _____VS._____ is immature and music should never be a competition said Tuomas Holopainen, a man who made this masterpiece. Old band as Nightwish is deseves respect. I don't care who sings what. Every member contributed to a legacy of Nightwish.
Sleeping sun belongs to Tarja. As much i ❤ Floor.
Both are wonderful
Digamos las cosas como son, Floor es muy buena...pero Tarja es. Mágica!
Same consert Tarja Turunen signs in Finnish language with out The band; Kuolema tekee taiteilijan (Death creats an artist)
I love both but Tarja owns this one.
i wish experience a opera with attila dorn and Tarja as the main actors!
Please react to Rosa de Saron - in concert - A Phoenix ft. Carmen Monarcha.
This is a Brazilian rock band "Rosa de Saron", from they "in concert" album, song "A Phoenix". It was recorded few months ago with a philharmonic camera (of Indaiatuba). Carmen Monarcha and the Livre Choir bright this song to make it so gorgeous. For me, it's the best brazilian live song I ever listen.
I would love to listen your opinion for those singers and the song itself.
Sorry to say but Floor does not fo anything for me.
When Tarja starts to sing i get teary eyed and instant goosebumps!!
The original Nightwish Band is Thomas Holopainen Jukka Nervalainen Empu Vuirinen Gitarr sorry I forgot the Name from the first Bassist of Nightwish
First and foremost a beautiful melody. With Floor it gives me happy tummy.
Oddly I started with Tarja "Gethsemane", but bit by bit became more enamoured of Floor. My favourite albums paradocically are Anette's two!
I think one think of this. So yuong and beutiful.
thomas made this song for tarja
Definitely prefer Tarja on this song, and a few others (Phantom of the Opera, Dead Boy's Poem), but Floor is best for others (especially Ghost Love Score). Both great performers for Nightwish.
Both are excellent. I personally prefer F because of the goosebumps
And non-accent.
And non-accent.
Tarja doesnt give you goosebumps or what? 😂
@@De-M-oN I’m team Floor but Tarja gives me Targasms on Deep Silent Complete for sure!
Tarja number one, only singer of the nightwish
Tarja, enough said
Tarja at that time was asked to sing in a more POP manner, but when shes loud he cant help but to go opera
Jeje noté que te gustó mas la versión original. No te culpo, a mi también! ❤❤❤