I remember feeling like shit not being able to get any internship during my time at uni but now I work as a full time developer. It all works out in the end, no matter how shitty it may feel right now. Thanks for sharing your updates!
Same right here. No internships but still got an offer 3 months out of college. Jumped to a new company now and working full-time full-stack developer.
I've moved from Ukraine to Canada recently, and have been looking for an IT job since September. So far, 2 interviews, around 200 rejections. Fairly enough I don't have a degree (was getting one before I left Ukraine), nor work experience. Glad to see that I'm not the only one struggling today.
omagaaaad brooooo. I really wanted to get my first job and relocate from Ukraine too but all my applications were flops so I gave up and now applying in Ukraine. So far no progress here too. I guess I'm just talented like that. Good luck to you finding anything! You made a great choice and I'm sure you'll end up in a good place!!!
Student from Uni with top score from my country are struggling to even get into fresher position. People with 2-3 years of experience are competing with them, lots of the student ended up doing other jobs. It kinda suck rn
I am also a third year student studying CS struggling to find an internship. It gets so hard to find motivation when you've been taking solid Ls in life.
I'm a career switcher 3 years post my graduation, completed a few online coding courses, DS&A and a full-stack bootcamp and currently sending off multiple applications and leetcode all evening. Multiple rejections and and some no responses, with 3-4 returning with technical interviews. I passed a technical interview last week and hope my video interview goes well this week. Its tough. But i believe it will work out in the end. This is giving me hope! Thank you Nicholas.
Same here. On my third year of post graduation. Got 3 offers = they couldn't do visa. Completed a few assessments and got to final stage = they couldn't do visa. Finally got a software engineer job = country announced visa ban on Africans. --- Now at the beginning of 3rd year out of university, have set an ultimatum to go back to washing dishes if I don't get a job by December. The tech job market is unstable and a mess. If I hadn't stopped washing dishes I think I'd still have a stable career as a hotel/restaurant manager by now. Money and time wasted.
@@paulinoleal5592 Thank you! Took the interview and currently, they said they will respond to everyone whether we did well or not by by end of March early April. If it goes well, then 1 last interview is left. So I’ll update you guys then. Kinda worried but we’ll see.
@@a.m.4154 Don’t give up just yet. I know it looks or seems hopeless in your eyes now but in 20 years time, you will look back and think thank god I didn’t give up. Everyone can have come-up story.
Bro I am so jealous of your gainz. Thanks for briefly sharing your progress cause honestly its really a lot! congrats on your upcoming internship just dont forget to go to the gym.
Love your videos man. You keep it real unlike those fakes who only rub their successes onto ppls faces. You take the time to show the ins and outs of the reality and remain modest and transparent. Keep up this great work man. Wish you the best in the next journey ahead of you
They been putting you through it man but glad you stuck with it and got a position! Commented on a video a while back that I had finally gotten an internship after a couple years of trying. Internship turned into a full time position after graduating which is awesome and I’m loving. To anyone reading this don’t ever give up. All it takes is one chance so gotta stay positive.
@Cristiano Benedetto And you know what's even more demoralizing? Getting to those final steps thinking you are finally making it, fantasizing on how you gonna kick-start all the plans you had for when you get the position, and the things you have in pause right now because you need this to keep moving forward with the rest of your life. And also meeting these talkative and nice recruiters or hiring managers that you meet in a interview round while acing the questions thinking you are killing it and thinking that they are liking and considering you for this position only for then later they reject you with a one line email telling you that they chose another candidate who either has an almost insignificant small advantage over you like he knows or someone leagues about you who worked for faang or something like that. In the end applying for jobs is like performing. You are mounting a whole spectacle to charm and enchant the hiring team with lots of sound and smoke. With lot of style and no substance. They want to see you dance like a monkey and to win you should give them what they want, this is the conclusion I've reached with this experience.
I feel you man I have nearly a year worth of internship experience and I thought my process would be much easier. After prob 100 or so applications I finally got an interview 😭😭
dig your videos man, I'm an industrial engineer major who wants a career path in data science. CS was always a challenge but gradually becoming better. keep up the great content brother
man, thank you for this video. i was applying for almost 8 months for internships and got nothing but rejections after rejections. until about 2 days ago when i finally landed a JOB! i really like watching your videos and so it was nice to see that i wasn't going this alone. i'm so happy for you, i hope your career flourishes from now on!
ive been feeling down lately after applying to so many jobs and not getting any interviews. Your videos remind me that we are all together in this process Thanks and keep it up
Woo, congrats landing a summer internship in the first round, the grind paid off. I'm going into second cycle - hopefully it's gonna turn out better. Hope to see you in the school gym soon, love the progress you've made 💪💪
I'm a SWE who got laid off earlier this year and looking as a mid-level has been TOUGH. Everywhere companies are conserving runway and mostly hiring tech leads, staffs, and seniors. Nobody wants to train someone green right now, even though I am able to contribute as mid-level. I can't even begin to imagine how tough it is for new grads right now. It's a bloodbath out here.
Your hard work and dedication is motivating and inspiring! I am just applying to entry level jobs with a non-traditional background at 24, with a handful of interviews. No job yet, but I still continue working hard and applying after seeing people like you. I have no doubt you will be extremely successful in your career and I look forward to future content from you! Congrats on the internship!
@@nicholast Hi! I just wanted to let you know I got hired for my first dev role! 🎉🎉🎉 I know you've got big things ahead too but I just wanted to share the good news :)
Interviewing is a skill as well bro. Keep practicing but as a fellow engineer i hate it and i dont practice. Now that my peers/network know my skills i no longer worry. Always be a 10x engineer / outperform your colleagues. Outperforming doesnt mean more hours btw it means solving the harder problems 😎✊🏽. Keep the good content coming bro
Nicholas I have strong 5 years in the industry and you have been a joy to watch. If you ever need help with branding/resume writing I'm here to help absolutely free
I understand this experience in my own field. I graduated with a C.S. degree, not for coding but more for MSP break/fix things, and it took easily 100+ applications, numerous interviews, many second interviews, and a few third/final interviews, over the course of nearly a year before landing my first job in my field. The problem that we are going to face, respectively, is the sheer volume of applications towards jobs, especially now that remote is a thing. You are against *everyone*, in the world, who many will be either equally as qualified, or even more so, or a hundred other potential reasons why they choose someone else. The only answer to this is just brute force your way in each time. Eventually, the odds will be in you favor.
Senior here majoring in software dev. I had two internships back to back at Travelport and Intel last year. I graduate this april. I got an interview for a company called Arlo Technologies, wish me luck!
more vlogs would be sick considering your last one. definitely room for improvement editing wise but the overall flow was nice and the content (your life lol) was fun to watch. either way, congrats on the job and looking forward to future vids!
Congrats man! Been following you for a while and I love your videos :) Im hoping to get into coding freelance this summer so it's great seeing you achieve success!
In the time that I first found your channel I myself was motivated from the first video I watched of you to finally start school myself at Full-Sail in their software engineering course. It has been...interesting to say the least but I am hanging in there and glad to see that you're hitting your milestones.
I'm approaching to the 200th rejection as well. Hope things will work out in the end. Congrats Nick! As a smart, patient and confident guy, you are truly an excellent software engineer!
Every time I hate learning stats/probability I tell myself "this is the closest thing we have to predicting the future " to get myself excited for probability. It kind of works.
Congrats! I'm about to graduate, I'm in the application/interview grind while also juggling sickness and a class where everything that can go wrong is going wrong and the professor has no interest in helping.
Laughing at the part on Operating Systems course. This is like a whole different world when coming from the software engineering courses. But in hindsight, this is really useful stuff to understand how to write better algorithms. And it could be a fundamental if you decide to go into drivers or writing your own OS one day.
Congrats for landing an internship!! But also you just gave me so much stress bc I'm pretty much doomed for Summer 2023 internships if it took you 200 apps when you have 3 internships 😭
Something about hearing others struggle is cathartic to my own failures. The mental game needs to be strong. Just remember the Ls are the road to the dub!
So insecure, only posting whenever life is good haha. Could've posted that blog of when you failed, could've posted about your struggles of finding a job. Nope! Only post after you get the internship, love it. True role model, only want to be transparent whenever something goes your way again. Frying pan is infinitely better.
Its a tough time right now but it has always been like that through out history. Having how many X rejections down the line, imagine that you were just born again today and attack your day as a new person; same body but new person. Don't let your past define you because you are a new person everyday
Great to see you back. Saw like 2 of your videos randomly a while back and your content is fire. Looking forward for what’s to come on your channel. P.S hope you can land a NY engineering gig at some point. Lots of great places to work in the software space you won’t be disappointed.
You are the one who inspired me to embark on my first serious journey with software development. I'm not legal age yet so I can't really apply for a job, but I'm building some fun semi-portfolio projects rn in hope of landing it someday in the future
With all honesty, I spent 6 years studying CS. Half way through I realized I wasn’t passionate about programming but I was too deep in to quit. I was chasing the field purely because I thought it would bring me financial gain without any consideration as to whether or not it would make me happy. Now I work doing administrative work so that I can earn enough to pursue my true passion which is baking. I had to find ways to still implement my programming skills so that it wouldn’t have been a waste of time, so I solo develop Android apps on the side.
Ahh Good ol Algorithms... The class that makes or breaks the spirits of developers in college. Where you learn the in depth knowledge of dynamic programming only for it to dissapear from memory once you finally land a job where you spend most of your time fixing boolean logic and writting CRUD operations, apis, and an amount of SQL you could basically live inside of a database...
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You been going through a lot, glad someone recognized your greatness
ur great
but you have 140k subs, why do you need a se job?
I remember feeling like shit not being able to get any internship during my time at uni but now I work as a full time developer. It all works out in the end, no matter how shitty it may feel right now. Thanks for sharing your updates!
it always works out in the end 🙏
working so hard but not getting any offers;_;
Bruh, you cannot understand how much I need to hear this. Thx
Same right here. No internships but still got an offer 3 months out of college. Jumped to a new company now and working full-time full-stack developer.
Most relatable stuff I've read , only mine was in graphic design.
I feel the struggle my friend, glad u pulled through
WAIT PAN DID U GET A JOB
@@bendoverDN 👀
@@bendoverDN Pan MADE the job 😌
ndex.gg 🚀🚀
Let’s just start a company 😪
I've moved from Ukraine to Canada recently, and have been looking for an IT job since September. So far, 2 interviews, around 200 rejections. Fairly enough I don't have a degree (was getting one before I left Ukraine), nor work experience. Glad to see that I'm not the only one struggling today.
You are definitely not alone, for example I've been rejected hundreds of time even doing well in interviews. It is a struggle.
Long live Ukraine! Didn't know Ukraine had weebs too. Nice.
omagaaaad brooooo. I really wanted to get my first job and relocate from Ukraine too but all my applications were flops so I gave up and now applying in Ukraine. So far no progress here too. I guess I'm just talented like that. Good luck to you finding anything! You made a great choice and I'm sure you'll end up in a good place!!!
Student from Uni with top score from my country are struggling to even get into fresher position. People with 2-3 years of experience are competing with them, lots of the student ended up doing other jobs. It kinda suck rn
Your determination to never give up is AWESOME, congrats man!!
This mans life is a god damn roller coaster, keep up the motivation king!
The amount of honesty and authenticity you have is so inspiring. You're very real and it's refreshing to see that. Keep slaying man
nice that you post your struggles, and not just the success stories like several other TH-camrs : )
man, he's a Waterloo student, I think this is already a success, the path is almost done, a Waterloo person or a self-taught?
@@JoaoVitor-uk3vi is waterloo something comparable like harvard in the us?
I am also a third year student studying CS struggling to find an internship. It gets so hard to find motivation when you've been taking solid Ls in life.
Keep going, big things ahead 💪
I'm a career switcher 3 years post my graduation, completed a few online coding courses, DS&A and a full-stack bootcamp and currently sending off multiple applications and leetcode all evening. Multiple rejections and and some no responses, with 3-4 returning with technical interviews. I passed a technical interview last week and hope my video interview goes well this week. Its tough. But i believe it will work out in the end. This is giving me hope! Thank you Nicholas.
I hope you get the job inshallah.
Can you update us about the result? And like what you learned?
Same here. On my third year of post graduation. Got 3 offers = they couldn't do visa.
Completed a few assessments and got to final stage = they couldn't do visa.
Finally got a software engineer job = country announced visa ban on Africans.
---
Now at the beginning of 3rd year out of university, have set an ultimatum to go back to washing dishes if I don't get a job by December.
The tech job market is unstable and a mess. If I hadn't stopped washing dishes I think I'd still have a stable career as a hotel/restaurant manager by now. Money and time wasted.
@@paulinoleal5592
Thank you!
Took the interview and currently, they said they will respond to everyone whether we did well or not by by end of March early April. If it goes well, then 1 last interview is left. So I’ll update you guys then. Kinda worried but we’ll see.
@@a.m.4154 Don’t give up just yet. I know it looks or seems hopeless in your eyes now but in 20 years time, you will look back and think thank god I didn’t give up. Everyone can have come-up story.
@@aisha8601 great! Inshallah you get the job!
Congrats! Watching people like you going through all these did inspired me to just keep going🧡
You got this 💪
Bro I am so jealous of your gainz. Thanks for briefly sharing your progress cause honestly its really a lot! congrats on your upcoming internship just dont forget to go to the gym.
nice initials :)
I feel the struggle! Pretty inspiring to see you did not quit after 200 applications!
Love your videos man. You keep it real unlike those fakes who only rub their successes onto ppls faces. You take the time to show the ins and outs of the reality and remain modest and transparent. Keep up this great work man. Wish you the best in the next journey ahead of you
thanks rayhan, really appreciate the support :)
Ah thanks for the update you’re actually one of the best cs student channels on TH-cam I really like watching your videos!! Good luck with everything
thanks for the support :)
4:17 that "Damn" was so raw, I could feel like a thousand emotions conveyed through it.
They been putting you through it man but glad you stuck with it and got a position!
Commented on a video a while back that I had finally gotten an internship after a couple years of trying. Internship turned into a full time position after graduating which is awesome and I’m loving. To anyone reading this don’t ever give up. All it takes is one chance so gotta stay positive.
Actually these types of vlogs are so good Nicholas, I can really relate much to them lol
I think I've had more than 700 rejections. I feel at my lowest right now, I wasn't aware how much of a toll would take to my self esteem.
I'm so sorry for this. Hopefully, one clicks soon.
@Cristiano Benedetto And you know what's even more demoralizing? Getting to those final steps thinking you are finally making it, fantasizing on how you gonna kick-start all the plans you had for when you get the position, and the things you have in pause right now because you need this to keep moving forward with the rest of your life.
And also meeting these talkative and nice recruiters or hiring managers that you meet in a interview round while acing the questions thinking you are killing it and thinking that they are liking and considering you for this position only for then later they reject you with a one line email telling you that they chose another candidate who either has an almost insignificant small advantage over you like he knows or someone leagues about you who worked for faang or something like that.
In the end applying for jobs is like performing. You are mounting a whole spectacle to charm and enchant the hiring team with lots of sound and smoke. With lot of style and no substance.
They want to see you dance like a monkey and to win you should give them what they want, this is the conclusion I've reached with this experience.
@@jan0195 do you have a degree?
@@JamesMcAlea Nope.
@@jan0195did you find a job already?
Bro is literally going through his training arc! These tough times is going to turn you into a Beast, keep grinding!
Dang! I hadn't heard from you in ages. So congrats on getting an internship sorted out for the summer. I look forward to your future content
appreciate it :)
it'll all work out nick congrats on landing a job and nice gym progress!
thanks kevin i'm tryna get like you one day 💪
@@nicholast whenever you're in NY lmk and we'll hit a lift ♥️
congrats bro!!
glad to see your video again! you always make me smile
:))
That’s awesome man, I remember when I first got mine and I’m still loving it
Congrats nic! 🎉
thanks nate :)
cool update, you beast, much strength! cool that you're doing classes outside the cs field.
I feel you man I have nearly a year worth of internship experience and I thought my process would be much easier. After prob 100 or so applications I finally got an interview 😭😭
it's rough out here but congrats on getting the interview :)
pan and nick upload on the same day is crazy. Congrats!
dig your videos man, I'm an industrial engineer major who wants a career path in data science. CS was always a challenge but gradually becoming better. keep up the great content brother
man, thank you for this video. i was applying for almost 8 months for internships and got nothing but rejections after rejections. until about 2 days ago when i finally landed a JOB! i really like watching your videos and so it was nice to see that i wasn't going this alone. i'm so happy for you, i hope your career flourishes from now on!
lets gooo congrats on getting the job 💯💯
That’s incredible bro!
ive been feeling down lately after applying to so many jobs and not getting any interviews. Your videos remind me that we are all together in this process Thanks and keep it up
Don't really follow your content to closely but god damn at those gym before and afters, motivation right there.
Congrats. mate!!!
Woo, congrats landing a summer internship in the first round, the grind paid off. I'm going into second cycle - hopefully it's gonna turn out better. Hope to see you in the school gym soon, love the progress you've made 💪💪
thanks bro! best of luck with cycle 2, i'm sure you'll do great :)
I'm a SWE who got laid off earlier this year and looking as a mid-level has been TOUGH. Everywhere companies are conserving runway and mostly hiring tech leads, staffs, and seniors. Nobody wants to train someone green right now, even though I am able to contribute as mid-level.
I can't even begin to imagine how tough it is for new grads right now. It's a bloodbath out here.
The man, the myth, the legend is back. Props for the internship and the massive gainz 💪
He’s back!! Congrats on SF next term 🥳
thanks natasha! waiting for your next video 👀
Your hard work and dedication is motivating and inspiring! I am just applying to entry level jobs with a non-traditional background at 24, with a handful of interviews. No job yet, but I still continue working hard and applying after seeing people like you. I have no doubt you will be extremely successful in your career and I look forward to future content from you! Congrats on the internship!
appreciate the support! keep pushing hard, big things ahead for u :)
@@nicholast Hi! I just wanted to let you know I got hired for my first dev role! 🎉🎉🎉 I know you've got big things ahead too but I just wanted to share the good news :)
@@Rynide THAT'S AWESOME CONGRATSSSS
Thank you so much! I'm excited to begin this new career 😄
Interviewing is a skill as well bro. Keep practicing but as a fellow engineer i hate it and i dont practice. Now that my peers/network know my skills i no longer worry. Always be a 10x engineer / outperform your colleagues. Outperforming doesnt mean more hours btw it means solving the harder problems 😎✊🏽. Keep the good content coming bro
Congrats man! always good to see you on the home page and leave some interviews for us
thanks jerry but it's really you that has all the interviews
Nicholas I have strong 5 years in the industry and you have been a joy to watch. If you ever need help with branding/resume writing I'm here to help absolutely free
Networking is going to be the best thing you can do for yourself when looking for a job. Joining the club was a great move.
fiiiiinaaaaaaallllyyyy! glad to see youre back!
Happy for you man ! Glad to see you winning, as I've been watching your videos since the beginning
I understand this experience in my own field. I graduated with a C.S. degree, not for coding but more for MSP break/fix things, and it took easily 100+ applications, numerous interviews, many second interviews, and a few third/final interviews, over the course of nearly a year before landing my first job in my field. The problem that we are going to face, respectively, is the sheer volume of applications towards jobs, especially now that remote is a thing. You are against *everyone*, in the world, who many will be either equally as qualified, or even more so, or a hundred other potential reasons why they choose someone else. The only answer to this is just brute force your way in each time. Eventually, the odds will be in you favor.
Enjoy the victory man, I'm one year since I started my first role. I love an underdog story.
Congrats.. Really enjoyed your video. Had similar experience when I did my SE degree in Waterloo 10 years ago.
Senior here majoring in software dev. I had two internships back to back at Travelport and Intel last year. I graduate this april. I got an interview for a company called Arlo Technologies, wish me luck!
Inshallah you get the job
more vlogs would be sick considering your last one. definitely room for improvement editing wise but the overall flow was nice and the content (your life lol) was fun to watch. either way, congrats on the job and looking forward to future vids!
haha I love the course descriptions. can't wait to psych analysis my interviewers !
Congrats man! Been following you for a while and I love your videos :) Im hoping to get into coding freelance this summer so it's great seeing you achieve success!
i appreciate it- all the best with the freelance work :)
Been watching every video of yours for so long! Congratulations man.
In the time that I first found your channel I myself was motivated from the first video I watched of you to finally start school myself at Full-Sail in their software engineering course. It has been...interesting to say the least but I am hanging in there and glad to see that you're hitting your milestones.
I'm approaching to the 200th rejection as well. Hope things will work out in the end. Congrats Nick! As a smart, patient and confident guy, you are truly an excellent software engineer!
Ayo looking absolutely massive! Congrats!
bro really leveled up, congrats man🦾
200 for a internship, you are the man. I am right now applying SOC job, been almost 7 months,
Yay, I got my first ever internship a year ago at tech startup, and now I am SWE 2 :)
Keep it up.
Congrats, king! 👑 I'm so happy for you!
Every time I hate learning stats/probability I tell myself "this is the closest thing we have to predicting the future " to get myself excited for probability. It kind of works.
Congrats! I'm about to graduate, I'm in the application/interview grind while also juggling sickness and a class where everything that can go wrong is going wrong and the professor has no interest in helping.
Laughing at the part on Operating Systems course. This is like a whole different world when coming from the software engineering courses. But in hindsight, this is really useful stuff to understand how to write better algorithms. And it could be a fundamental if you decide to go into drivers or writing your own OS one day.
That's rough bro. Glad you finally got through it :)
Go Nick go!! Your determination is crushing it man 🔥
Glad to have you back Nick...!
Enjoyed the sit down video, hoping to see more videos in the future.
Congrats for landing an internship!!
But also you just gave me so much stress bc I'm pretty much doomed for Summer 2023 internships if it took you 200 apps when you have 3 internships 😭
Life really is full of highs and lows. Wishing you the best of luck at the new job! You earned that shit for real.
LFG you're the goat dude, don't forget it
Man I am happy for you, keep up the work!
Congrats! Welcome to the madness!
Love you man, keep it up
Good job brother randomly got you on my feed
Something about hearing others struggle is cathartic to my own failures. The mental game needs to be strong. Just remember the Ls are the road to the dub!
Congrats Nick!
Love your channel man, keep at it!
Congrats 😊🎉
So insecure, only posting whenever life is good haha. Could've posted that blog of when you failed, could've posted about your struggles of finding a job. Nope! Only post after you get the internship, love it. True role model, only want to be transparent whenever something goes your way again. Frying pan is infinitely better.
Yo frying pan is goated
Its a tough time right now but it has always been like that through out history. Having how many X rejections down the line, imagine that you were just born again today and attack your day as a new person; same body but new person. Don't let your past define you because you are a new person everyday
Hey Nicholas, congrats! Looking big man!
nah it's just an optical illusion
Congratulations man!
Great to see you back. Saw like 2 of your videos randomly a while back and your content is fire. Looking forward for what’s to come on your channel.
P.S hope you can land a NY engineering gig at some point. Lots of great places to work in the software space you won’t be disappointed.
thanks pedro, hopefully i'll be in nyc next year 🤞
Congrats on getting a job! Also 275 squat is insane for your weight.
same 3rd year but good shit! i still am applying. Its rough out here in Cali.
Huge inspiration for me! Thank you!
first time viewer, love ur humour and applaud ur hard work, subscribing right away
thanks sarah, appreciate it :)
Happy you got through it!
damn, let me remembered time in waterloo, HARD GRIND!!
You are the one who inspired me to embark on my first serious journey with software development. I'm not legal age yet so I can't really apply for a job, but I'm building some fun semi-portfolio projects rn in hope of landing it someday in the future
that's awesome, keep up the great work :)
congratulations!
Hey Nic, really love your content, keep doing what you're doing
Nice to see you again
Oh mehm
Getting internship and entry level jobs are hard😪
Congrats, you got muscles now buddy.
I feel you, going into third year. Haven't even started applying because I feel like I can't code good enough.
With all honesty, I spent 6 years studying CS. Half way through I realized I wasn’t passionate about programming but I was too deep in to quit. I was chasing the field purely because I thought it would bring me financial gain without any consideration as to whether or not it would make me happy.
Now I work doing administrative work so that I can earn enough to pursue my true passion which is baking.
I had to find ways to still implement my programming skills so that it wouldn’t have been a waste of time, so I solo develop Android apps on the side.
Congratulations :DD
Congratulations
YOOOO LET'S GO NIC THIS IS HUGEEEEE (not as huge as your biceps though)
Not as huge as your brain though :)
omg the nic himself replied to me i'm so honored :D
Ahh Good ol Algorithms... The class that makes or breaks the spirits of developers in college. Where you learn the in depth knowledge of dynamic programming only for it to dissapear from memory once you finally land a job where you spend most of your time fixing boolean logic and writting CRUD operations, apis, and an amount of SQL you could basically live inside of a database...