CREED II (2018) -- Afterthoughts by Mike - (Plus deleted scene)
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- Here are a few afterthoughts regarding the movie CREED II (2018).
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3 fathers, 3 sons.
333 It's a good number! (:
There's also a deleted scene in Creed 2 when Rocky gives a speech at Spider Rico's funeral (his opponent at the beginning on Rocky, also in Rocky Balboa.)
Yes, I did see it. Nice scene, but it was probably too "slow" and too long to be included, but I'm glad I saw it. (:
Great reaction to a really enjoyable creed movie. They definately humanized the character of ivan drago. Creed 3 is a really good boxing movie too Hight recommended Thumbs up from Ian
Yeah, the humanization of the Dragos was probably my favorite part! C3 is coming! (:
Some of my favorite scenes were between Rocky and Ivan but also with Ivan and Victor
YES! As I've mentioned in my "Afterthoughts" video, I wanted to see more scenes between Rocky and Drago. And, of course, the scenes between Drago and Viktor were my favorites! (:
I'm glad you decided to watch Creed 3.. It is my favorite of The Creeds. I think we owe it to Apollo, after all, Rocky would have never been famous without the opportunities Apollo gave him. The torch has once again been passed in a wonderful way. It is now Adonis' story. The storyline and acting in Creed 3 is phenomenal. Thanks for the deleted scene...
Yeah, C3 was quite good. It definitely has a different "feel" to it, but since it's Adonis' story now, it's ok. See ya next Saturday for C3, gotta get back to editing! (:
Hi Mike! Once again, I enjoy the rewatch more than my original watch. I appreciate your perspective and insights as well as the deleted scene. I really appreciate the humanization of the Dragos. Spectators want to see contestants. A sophisticated audience wants to see the backstory and the human side of all the characters. It's possible to root for your favorite and still be sympathetic towards the adversary.
I also appreciate your pointing out Rocky's observation that the baby isn't feeling sorry for herself and Donnie shouldn't either. There's a very deep lesson in that. If parents treat children like they are handicapped, the disability is magnified. Love them all the same an aspire just as big.
Anyway, too much to talk about unless it's over coffee or an adult beverage.
Extend my greetings to J! See you again soon!
Hello Philip. Yes, you're making great points and obviously, I agree with you 100%. Jessica says "hello" as well. Also, I got your other message about not being able to post, but it didn't show up in the comment section either. Anyway, thanks for your kind words! (:
@BossMovieReactions After I made my piggy back comment, I was able to post as normal. So, I posted this one and deleted the first one. It could be a TH-cam glitch or more likely my phone, but it's always good to be alert with what goes on with these platforms. Especially with the investment of time and effort you make.
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I also feel ivans sigh when he seen adobis was an apology about his father you could see it in his face he regrets it..
Directors cut of rocky 4 is amazing much darker and makes the movie feel different in a great way
Yeah, that "deleted" scene was very powerful. I saw the documentary about the director's cut of R4. Loved it! (:
Wow, never saw that deleted scene before. Thanks.
Ah, great, so happy to hear that! (:
Thank you for your thoughts.
You got it! (:
Creed 2 has another deleted scene that I think would have helped the movie. The scene is the funeral of Spider Rico. Not only is it a great scene but it informs the audience about how Rocky knows about the training ground in mexico. If you havent seen that one check it out.
Yes, I've seen that one as well... Nice scene! (th-cam.com/video/IbUmRHivOdg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=i2eW4SjBDLWI5XxO) Thanks for sharing! (:
My favourites from the franchise in no particular order: Rocky, Rocky 2, Rocky Balboa, Creed. The rest are Brilliant and very enjoyable but these 4 on my list are in my opinion masterpieces and even make me cry.
Thanks for sharing. I have a hard time ranking them... I just can't do it. (:
OMG, I never knew this was a deleted scene until you showed this. Wow, that was a beautiful scene, big mistake to leave that scene out. They should have left it in, It would have shown why Adonis and Viktor worked together in Creed 3. SMH 🤦🏻 Big mistake leaving that out, powerful scene!
Yes, agreed, a big mistake on that one! /-:
At times it's said that a story for a hero is only as good as its antagonists. I love the story in the Creed Saga as much as the core Rocky "legend" . Having said that, my biggest emotional investment in the story of Creed II is with Viktor Drago.
Many people can relate to the pain of coming from a broken home and to wanting the love of their parents more than anything. All Viktor wanted (Florian Munteanu has often spoken of this) was to make his father proud and happy. He loves his father dearly, and I love that this story *gave* Viktor Drago a *heart* rather than just making him an angry unstoppable "beast".
If there ever *was * a story specifically focused on the Creed and Drago families becoming friends, I would *love* to see that. It would do more than turn a professional rivalry into a friendship. It would show forgiveness and healing between two families across generations.
I'm reminded of an actual line in Creed 2: "You can't say Creed without Drago". I'd love a story that in effect makes Adonis Creed and Viktor Drago become a type of "brothers in arms". Just like Apollo and Rocky.
Yes, I fully agree with your statement. Very well said! Thanks for sharing! (:
I like Creed 3. But I love the first two Creeds. They are a great father/son story.
Yes, C3 was pretty good, but it definitely has a different "feel" to it. (:
I believe Michael B. Jordan directed Creed 3 and wanted to take the story down a slightly darker path. This resulted in Sly walking away from the project because he felt it didn't fit in with what Rocky/Creed movies were about. He has publicly said that he will return for Creed 4 if/when that happens and if the story suits the character. Creed 2 was a perfect goodbye to a legend so I don't mind if he doesn't return.
Yes, I 100% agree with that! Especially after watching C3. (:
I actually wish that Creed's wife died during child birth. Sure mirroring Rocky 2 but the opposite. But I feel showing Creed having to deal with a deaf new born by himself would have brought a more emotional impact.
Eventually learning to sign language in the future Creed 3,4.. would have put more intense family scenes.
Honestly the Stallone scenes were the glue to the Creed movies.
Adonis and his girlfriend/wife had minimal chemistry. She was horrible. Her acting chose for the character in both films of being kinda cocky. She wasn't lovable. She didn't have to be as shy as Adrian but she wasn't likeable.
They should have killed her off. Bring in that Rocky 2 and Rocky 6. Michael B Jordan is a waaaay better actor than her and he could have brought everything missing in Creed 1 and 2. By himself.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's an interesting perspective! (:
Addendum -- on the DVD of "Creed II," there are some deleted scenes, the most emotional being Adonnis and then Rocky stopping in Viktor's dressing room after the rematch. I so wish that scene was not included in the final cut of the film. Trust me, you would love it...
UPDATE -- Of course you watched it... and we agree, totally and completely... PLEASE watch the director's cut of "Rocky IV"... if you don't love it, I will never bother you again, I promise... lol
Yes, that deleted scene was very powerful! -- Haha, yes, I'm convinced I would love the director's cut of R4. ((:
Rocky 4 directors cut is almost like an entirely different movie, makes the movie much darker and serious
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If they make a Creed 4 they better have Rocky in it Lol. It would only make more money for the movie with Michael B Jordan alongside Sylvester Stallone
True! The question is if Stallone agrees to be in it. LOTS of politics behind the scenes! (:
Creed 4 will center around Creed's daughter....
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Thank you, Emmanuel!! (:
Thanks Mike, for the creed journey! Unfortunately i have to boycott creed 3,because Rocky isnt in it(not even mentioned). U guys are awesome..keep punching!
Hi Tim, yes, I totally understand. Btw, Rocky's name WAS mentioned in C3 to my great surprise. At least that! (:
@@BossMovieReactions Ha, I was just thinking "I could have sworn he was at least mentioned."
@@funkspinna Yeah! Adonis said something like: "You know how many people watched the Rocky fight?"
Give Creed III the same opportunity that Apollo gave Rocky. Without Creed, Rocky would have never gotten the opportunity in the first place. Creed III is an awesome storyline & acting.
Copied and pasted from my comment on your main reaction:
As always, I really enjoy your reactions to the best series ever put to film. Your reactions are like Rocky and Apollo -- straight from the heart.
I refuse to watch Creed III because of the way they treated Stallone.
I have one request -- please consider watching Sly's director's cut of "Rocky IV" -- you will have an even-deeper appreciation for Rocky -- and for Apollo -- though I realize this seems impossible.
Thank you, folks...
C/P -- Yes, I understand not watching C3. I watched it because of the poll. One day I'll check out the director's cut of R4. I did see the documentary about it, which I enjoyed tremendously! (:
Stallone originally agreed to pass the torch and even made a video saying creed 2 was his last. The problem is when Stallone made Rocky the winkers had to put there own house up just to make the movie. As a result they got ownership of the franchise and now Stallone is mad about the deal he made
However that's the deal he agreed to. Also the writer and creator of Rambo has made similar complaints to what Stallone has done with Rambo but Stallone made the movies he wanted and got creative control over Rambo because of the deal the writer made. This is Hollywood and Stallone can't just pick and choose. What's being done to him he also did to the Rambo creator and writer
Editors needs more balls and not be so safe with everything!
Hi Mustaerkki, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to, but in general, I agree that most people need more balls, so to speak. LOL. (:
Sylvester hasn’t watched and doesn’t approve of Creed 3 so Neither will/do I .. I saw Rocky opening weekend when I was 9 . What Rocky wants Rocky gets . Rocky didn’t want this film . It was just a $$ /ego grab ☑️
Yeah, I hear you. As you know, I feel similarly, but we go according to the poll... Hopefully, we see you after C3. Cheers! (:
Elite Squad, please ;)
Yep, I just checked our list, and the movie is already on it. Thx! (:
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