How Blizz Are Using SoD To Tell Retail's New Story! Xal'atath's Season of Discovery Crossover
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มี.ค. 2024
- Xal'atath, the future villain of World of Warcraft: The War Within has now appeared in Season of Discovery Phase 1 and 2. Is Blizzard telling a new story leading INTO the World Soul Saga... in Classic? Taliesin looks at all the clues and evidence that The Shadowy Stranger in SoD isn't just a fun reference, it's WoW's most ambitious story-telling technique ever! Evitel rounds up the other news including the new Trading Post rewards for March and uncapped Crests!
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I think Xal'atath might be Y'shaarj
you spelt saga wrong in your description btw :D thanks for the video.
one small correction - the final raid of vanilla was Naxx :)
Could be a interesting Theory of Y'shaarj being reincarnated as Xal'atath. Another could be that Xal'atath was one of the lesser old gods.
Because Xal'atath is the goat?
I think Xalatath might be Evitel
Need more Evi sarcasm bits in the Weekly Reset. I laughed, I cried.
This. Evi is reality. Tali off in fantasy shill land. Good cop. Bad cop. Good entertainment.
5:31, made me laugh so hard! How do you get shit everywhere like that? Lmao
@@allthatishere They show that picture in almost every video and have since before they started having kids together (that pic should have discouraged that, lol),
@@MatthewTheWanderer That's pretty funny lol, tbh I only just just found this channel like two days ago
@@allthatishere Oh, I see, lol. Yeah, they have a LOT of recurring gags/catch phrases like that. But, that is part of their appeal, I think.
"I forget about it all the time" ... 11/10 on the Punny Scale. I chuckled
Final raid was Naxx, Tali
Yep, my guild got about 6/14 before Burning Crusade released. The big thing about Naxx was to get Atiesh so you and your group could port directly to Karazhan.
Ahn'Qiraj is also distinctly *not* full of Nerubians, but qiraji, which are a different thing
doesnt fit the narrative must not be true :D
As a horde member in the Ashenvale PvP event, one of the Keeper of the Grove bosses was named Larodar. They're definitely doing this on purpose
What’s the reference?
@@tholos2758 He's a boss in the current raid.
He was also a random hero in warcraft 3.
So a company known to rehash and reuse assets from previous games, this is an easter egg?
@itouchbuttons maybe play a different game?
oh no not tali being back at saying harbinger wrong! we've gone through this tali!! hahaha
Evi's section this week was 🔥 from puns, to delivery, to pacing. Kudos to all involved!
16:20 Nerubians? In Ahn'Qiraj? Tali, those were Qiraji and Silithids!
Earlier you also mentioned Stormwind fell in the Second War, but really it fell in the First.
I guess he still hears the voices whispering in his head.
Wasn't expecting a little Outer Wilds OST at the end there, but it always brings such peace and good vibes.
I wonder if Shadow Priests might get some special dialogue with Xal'atath during the War Within ether using the Black Blade of the Empire or other Black Empire Transmog Weapons where she knows the Shadow Priest Hero who once wield her blade dagger during Legion.
after recrafting Tyr he has a special dialogue if a paladin wears Tyr's Hand, so probably
thank you for breaking this down. I know I'm missing out, but I don't miss Classic, and I'm skipping on SOD specifically (even though my guild went nanners on it during this lull) because Classic gameplay is so not my cup of coffee. I'm very much not a fan of retail lore being planted in SOD, so I can't really experience it firsthand without investing time in Classic. Meh. So this saves me time! Thank you again!
ALL OF THIS! I really dislike the idea of lore popping up in Classic. I have no interest in hearing about Classic at all, let alone having to hear about it for the sake of lore bits. As much as people bemoan Blizzard hiding relevant lore in books and such (which I read), I’m not sure why this is being touted as such a great idea.
Yup. I'm all for Blizz putting more story in-game rather than forcing us to buy novels to fill things in. But can they just please put retail story in the retail game? I also have zero interest in anything Classic and would love to see this story, I don't know, in the version of the game where it's actually relevant?
@@zuggernaut618 Putting it in a game is a lot different than books. In the end you are paying for classic with your retail subscription.
Right. Like when we asked for more story content to be delivered in game, as a retail guy this idea of story being dropped in classic is a far far faaaaaaaar stretch from what we all asked for originally.
@@NanoLT yes and Hearthstone is free to play. That doesn't mean I'd like for the next expansion plot starter to be introduced in Hearthstone... Classic is another game. It may be included in the subscription but why should I play another game (especially one I don't have any interest) to understand the current game story ?
I say this as someone that really really loves the mouse pet: It should not have been the transmog month gift. It's adorable, but that's not end-month I conquered my to-do list material. Also still waiting patiently for our Tuskarr...w a i t i n g
Tuskarr for our Alliance buddies and Gnolls for the Horde.
@@franji4998gnoll gonna lie, I would totally main one of those slimy dogs
@@franji4998 lol don't take my hordie Tuskarr like that nuuuu Tuskarr for all
SoD is totally not for me, but I love a cool cross-game ARG that links the communities together. I hope they do more like that. It feels very much like something WoW would do in the glory days
Good video, but I have to point out that the last vanilla raid was naxxramas and in AQ we faced the silithid and the qiraji, not the nerubians
You sure know how to make my work day infinitely better. Thank You
There is a really interesting dagger* from MoP. Also the Klaxxiy tell you (when you're exalted with them) that they worship Y'Shaarj (SoO, duh)
*"Ra'sha's Sacrificial Dagger: Use: A faint whispering can be heard inside of your own head. The dagger bids you to thrust it deep into your heart. Do you dare comply?"
blizz probably watching this video and thinking "fuck why didn't we do that"
I like to think that when we finished Legion we yeeted the artifact weapons into the sword and the bounce made them fly wherever
That would be so amazing being a SoD player this is EPIC !!!
That Outer Wilds music always hit the spot.
I'm so excited! This is the most fun I think I've ever had in wow.
Some great lore bits to get hyped on for the new expac!!
I keep picturing Evi filming that segment with Tali constantly cutting and describing how he would deliver those lines lol
Great job tho, we could use more Evi!
Great story telling Tali. Keep at it and eventually you'll evolve into our Gandalf.
I think this is the best pre. X pack ramp up that Blizz has ever done.
Evitel's bit this video was 10/10 - more please!
im actually using the watch transmog. its on my mage along with the waste of time and morchie's/chromie's timeworn/timespun shoulderpads (one on each shoulder). works good with my chronomancer transmog
If the Old Gods can see multiple futures through the Void, then Y’shaarj could’ve foreseen the possibility of his death. It makes sense that he would create a Horcrux-like item as insurance.
OHBOY MIDNIGHT Weekly Reset?!
Sweeeet.
Using SoD to flesh out narrrative for TWW was an absolute stroke of genius
Downloading this to watch on my flight from SLC to London. Cheers, y’all!
Utah allows WoW... I thought is was a Joseph Smith Simulator they played.
@@RealJohnnyGuillotine perfection. No notes 🫡😂
@@JakeSezz Have a safe flight much love homie
Blizz trolling Evitel 😁
And, yes, the pets are the very first things I purchase from the Trading Post. Followed by mounts.
Final raiid is Naxx not AQ?
I am simply in love with you weekly and more often appearing here! ❤
16:37 The highly, highly nostalgic '14.3 Billion Years' is an interesting music choice for this segment.
Holly mentioned the 10.2.6 patch will have an event that's available to both Classic & Retail players. Maybe there's going to be some more story overlaps there.
what they need to do is find a way to harness all the extra challenge points you would have gotten. I basically finished the challenge log playing super casually within the first day by jumping onto a few different alts just messing around leveling up or doing world content. I think I did a few random dungeons for fun.
Forgets a watch “all the time” 😂 great pun!
I've honestly never had an issue with not having enough flight stones, but I'm also someone who does all the story quests and events when they first come out. As a raider who does more than raiding i don't see the Flightstone issue. Crests are always what im struggling with.
evi is killing it this episode
Quick reminder that ahnqiraj wasnt the last raid, and it had qiraji, not nerubians. Although they are related enough to each other and to the old gods, as are the Klaxxi.
Evi ATE THAT VIDEO and left no crumbs hahaha awesome guys
Me playing The War Within and meeting Xal'atath:
Her: "Remember that favor you owe me?"
Me: "I'm a Vanilla player but didn't play SoD, so I owe you squat shit lady."
Playing from the "villain" perspective would make the game so much more interesting lore wise. Geting engaged in the their story and having an insight what their motivations are. Just like good old w3. Give scenarios like that..
Xalatath controlling the Dark riders would be a cool connection
Yay.... it's time for my weekly run of the "Tali can't say Harbinger correctly" drinking game ❤
Im pretty sure that for Blizzard sod is like a laboratory,a big beta test for a lot of little thing before adding the new stuff/little feature/idea on the main wow.
Removing crest cap is super useless since at this point in the seasln you will never ever be able to spend the cap anyway. I had no idea they are still capped.
well seeing that old gods can affect timeways too(WotA novel is based on that) it would be nothing new to mid high tier old void creature to be able to do that in smaller scale. Also naxxramas40 was the final raid...?
season of discovery is not the "what if" that people expected. Tbh, its more like a WoW director's cut and I love it.
Definitely would have preferred the Sky captain outfit as the monthly trader log reward, over the cute mouse.
Taliesin and that darn word, Harbinger lmao
This is AWESOME !!!
It's funny I actually am using the watch transmog on one of my mages. Didn't think I'd wind up using it ever, but now that it shows over some gloves, might as well make use of that wrist slot, right?
To be fair there are still voices inside heart of Y'shaarj, so I'm gonna put a doubt on the reservation within a claw theory.
If I recall right Void has been playing around with Infinites so in theory Time Travel could be a possibility that is if I remember everything correctly XD
Evitel I am WEARING my watch transmog!! Me and my best mouse friend Teele have never felt so attacked in our lives! T_T
Now classic would be a huge retcon factory
Yes! Iwhould buy the mouse as first! After some "green" parts tabards and cloaks and at least i could by my frozen staff now.
If you're right, it will be the first time I ever begin to consider playing Classic. This sounds like a great twist.
I'm so excited 😆
I'm fundamentally broken, I guess. I always go pet, mount, toy, them transmog when buying stuff in the Trading Post.
Don't forget about the Mantid from MoP:
"...originally descended from a group of aqir - insect-like spawn of the Old Gods - that settled in the southern parts of ancient Kalimdor."
"Following the resurrection of the Heart of Y'Shaarj by Garrosh Hellscream, the Klaxxi allied themselves with the Warchief. Their paragons took up guard beneath Orgrimmar to protect the heart of their dark former god, but were ultimately defeated during the Siege of Orgrimmar."
I feel it strengthens the theory that Xal'atath is Y'shaarj! Or at least related somehow.
If that's Xal'atath in SoD I think the idea that it's just a reference could also hold significant weight.
If SoD is canon and we owe her a favor back in classic, it kinda completely recontextualizes her giving us up to N'zoth, and retroactively explains why our character doesn't seem surprised by it (aside from a lack of facial animations). Maybe we knew it was coming all along, but were fine with it because we owed her a favor? Maybe she left us with N'zoth on neutral terms with us.
*Maybe she won't actually be a villain in the next expansion.* (or at least, not a black and white blatant villain, but maybe she's even an ally occasionally through the story) A Harbinger isn't necessarily a bad thing, as scary as the name sounds, a Harbinger is just a messenger, or even more generously, a warning. Maybe she's trying to warn us about the void... or maybe... the War Within doesn't literally refer to where the expansion is, but also the subject of the expac.
Maybe she's warning us about the light, and the War Within are the forces of the light turning on us for treating the void amicably.
The best part about all of this is for the first time in a long while, Blizz have made a story that's interesting enough to theorize and guess over, and that any idea could be equally as possible. They've really managed to recapture a good bit of that old WoW magic
Knaifu? Surely you mean baeblade.
Xa’latath being Y’shaarj might explain Blizzard’s recent push towards Pandaria related content. Hmmmmm 🤔
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but this is the second vid I've watched now on this channel that has Outer Wilds music in it. Is there a Tali playthrough of Outer Wilds out there?
First things I buy every month are the pets, so yea.. I'm happy with the mouse. Nevertheless, I would've preferred the mount to be the overall reward as well as the mounts are usually more expensive than the pets.
should have made it that you can buy those boxes but with crests making you able to buy chest for crests and flightstones which increase the ilvl of the gear, instead of current 441 ilvl from chests make it 483 with aspect crests and flightstones and the others too
6:06 account wide currency for DF would be a massive boon, my Storm Sigil and Untapped Forbidden Knowledge are just sitting on my main doing nothing.
I play druid main and don't have a single level 70 alt, so I'm not fussed about mounts. I collect druid forms ahead of transmog. And I collect battle pets.
I'm the person who is happy with this month's reward.
Well, this was juicy
Xal'atath: Be warned Champion... You... OWE. Me...
Whoa whoa nerubians in Ahn'Qiraj?? I thought they were Qiraji lol
Taliesin: I have juicy stuff
*shows picture of Xal'atath*
"March is the beginning of Spring!" The Southern Hemisphere sends its greetings through gritted teeth
You guys just need to realign your months
I said SoD and Retail should do a convergence event and I thought it was gonna be Emerald dream, Im happier to think it could be Xal'atath.
I really like the mouse
Crasy thought: It has been said that SOD players characters will go "somewhere" after SOD. What if we get to send our SOD Chars to The War Within?
Jesus fuck I hope not.
Tali, both Blackwing lair and Naxx came after AQ40.
I think N'Zoth is hanging out in Xalatath's old dagger and all we fought was a meat puppet with some magic void goo sacs that casted stuff at us.
I agree that nzoth is just chillin in the dagger, but where did the dagger even go?
@@hobosnake1Wrathion has it, no? Which means...
...Oh no.
@@Anergyne What are you saying? It's not like it's a legendary artifact that whispers secrets to its owner from whoever is trapped inside the....
Evi's inability to remember my awesome watch is not indicative of my love of my awesome watch
The final raid of vanilla is Naxxramas, not the Temple of Ahn'qiraj.
At this point I'm pretty sure that Xal'atath is Nyarlathotep from the Lovecraft Mythos. It's almost a 1:1 match.
Yeah I've always said this. Like a cosmic traveller. I've always got the vibe of her being like the daughter of a really important void lord off on her gap year
My life is so much more fun with you two ❤🎉😂
I figured the trading post was all more Mardi-Gras related. The masks, the peacock mount and the colors are all very Mardi-Gras themed IMO. Forget the Irish, in 'Murica it's Mardi-Gras season. :P (Just kidding we love the Irish >_>)
11:16 lmao. I love WoW lore.
Yes, I would definitely pick pet over transmog all the time. Mounts > pets > toys > transmog. :o)
Cool!
I like the mouse!!
Aquamarine is aquamarvelous!
Oh, I never thought about if that shadowy figure in the Dawn of the infinite dungeon was Xal'atah then they she would be in the past.
Do you think there will be another legendary in the next patch?
I think this Is better than the "we are family"
I like to think something happens during dawn of the infinites that created a paradox by having a classic era timeline offshoot but with xal'atath appearing in that era sewing seeds that bloom in the current timeline, what we though may have been ressolved with the timelines.... nah this is wow obviously 😂
As someone who's favorite color is teal, I feel attacked
isn't naxx the final raid of vanilla?
Yup
Yeah, not to mention that there were no nerubians in AQ
@@metal_monocle7334 probably because the Nerubians only reside in Azjol-Nerub.
Blizzard released something.
And Evitel took that personally.
That for sure this month Trading Post was a hot mess, like really. 800 or something tenders for a full set, 700 for the mounth, and the rest not to mention. Who like Tmog collecting and such, this month gonna be a duzzee.
Traveler log should have been a giant 4 leaf clover.
i use the watch on many of my toons