Perspective Drawing 12 - When Vanishing Points Are Off The Page (Brewer Method)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2020
- In this episode we take a look at what to do when the vanishing points are off the page.
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Love the way you teach, man...
1. You show the problem
2. Simple solution with long explanation
3. Quick review
4. "Real life" example
It makes so easy to understand.
Very impressive, thank you. I'll definitely check your Patreon :)
You ever searched for a video and gave up not finding what you were looking for, only to have it fall right on your lap later?
Thank you!
Tried to draw a pencil sharpener, having not really learned perspective. Vanishing points were off the sketch. What a rabbit hole. Your videos helped enormously, I learned a lot, and I am looking forward to watching more of them.
super helpful, have been struggling with this for a long time, thank you for the video🙏🏼
Me too. Thanks Dan 🙏👍
Hey Dan, I just wanted to thank you for creating these videos. I love that How to Draw book by Scott Robertson but sometimes I just can't get what he's writing about so seeing you covering all of those same topics is super helpful. Next time I sell a painting I will donate on your Patreon page.
Thanks for this dude - really helpful - I'd been meaning to dig into Scott Robertson to learn this technique for a while but I always find his stuff slightly impenetrable / overly technical, so this has really demystified the process.
Dude... thank you so much, I can’t explain how happy I am to have found this
Amazing Dan Beardshaw so good to view and learn
Loving everything you teach about perspective! Soooooooo helpful and inspiring!
thank you! i've been trying to understand this method for a while now, this clears my mind about it.
Loving this series so far. Keep it up!
This is brilliant. So simple and so helpful.
Brilliant as usual, great work buddy...
You make this easy to understand and follow" keep up the great videos. Many regards
Thank you for this tutorial, it's so helpful!
this was the answer to my struggle with vanishing points holy crap! good stuff
Damnn.... I'm waiting for this video... Thanks dude 😍
Thank you!! I’ve been wondering about this for quite some time, I’m an artist and am about to create something that requires this method.
This is sick! I never knew about this! : O
Great work.
Thank you so much!
Damn Thanks a bunch a really clear and easy guide for a drawing with this type of issue. a 2 meter long stick would not have been enough (also not an option for a digital drawing) for how far away my left vanishing point would be honestly. I looked at a few other things first but this genuinely helped with the specific drawing I wanted to make.
Funny thing is I came here after reading Scott's first chapter on perspective and VPs and did a bit of sketching and figured out that all my vps are always off page and trying to figure out wth to do about it I googled it. I had no idea that there's more clarification later on in the book. Thanks for the vid.
Thankyou so much ❤
When you recomended me the how to draw Brook i imediatly bought it and improved really much
Now if someone say "muuh vp is out of the page" I'll send them this or trow them a book to the head
So great tutotial.. very informative, support here friend..
How is the brewer method applied to 3 point perspective and curvilinear perspectives? Also, is it practical to use all these technical skills when 100% accuracy isn't my goal? When should I just try freehand?
Have to agree with you. My brain just shuts down when I have to construct the grid accurately. Like the 45 degree angle etc. I always thought it’d be easier to just draw the horizon line, plot two vanishing points on the line and then extend lines from there.
Yes, thx!
this is so logica thanks mate
Awesome again.
I'm so jalous !
Hi Dan first of all thanks a lot for your amazing videos, they are really helping me out!
Ok so, when using the brewer method how do you know of you have a 90 degrees angle on the square? meaning is there a way to know if the the vanishing points have a 90 degrees relation from the station point?
Thanks. I have seen alot of tutorials teaching the same thing, but none of them show the square method to ensure the two vanishing points lie on same horizontal line.
Love your art this is such a good series are you going to carry on with drawn to create 😀
thanks! I am intending on coming back to that in the future
I have a request. So, I’m going to be painting a mural that is 4’ x 24’. The mural will consist of 9 panels, each equal in dimensions (2.5’ x 2.75’). The leftover vertical space (1.5’ x 24’) will be separated into two equal panels.
Inside each of the 8 panels will be a depiction of well know landmarks known throughout the area, where the mural will be painted.
My initial process was to just google each building/landmark and do a 2-point perspective drawing of each within its designated panel.
However, what I would like to do is somehow draw/paint each landmark from the same point of view on the same horizon line.
Any suggestions on how you would go about doing that?
The approach demonstrated in this video, made me think I could take an existing structure drawing and re-draw from a specific angle using this technique.
excellent ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I can’t grasp perspective it so confusing for me, but this video was so helpful. I actually learned. So how can you do this on 3 point perspective or 4 point? Do you have a video on that? Thanks you
Awesome.
So you basically construct strictly flat plane (totally 2D and without any perspective) with the help of the 3 lines, so you can get 4th line.
And from there.. you can construct anything :)
Thank you.
Awesome, I’ve been wanting to try more perspective drawings but found it unappealing to try to estimate every single line if the vanishing point was off the page.
2:22 make a rectangle parallel to paper both vetically and horiztonally and going trough it give yout the VP
how do you divide an object into a number of parts that isn't possible to do with the "diagonal line center point" method without the visible horizon line on the brewer method.
or do you just make a smaller portion of the larger object and duplicate it until you get the desire number of parts.
say i wanted to make a door at the center of a house. and the door is 1/7th size of the front of the house. i could make a door width object and duplicate it 7 times.
but lets say i already established the house in the form of a basic box with other structures already in place so i cant just redo that box. how would i divide that accurately without the horizon line. or am i going to have to rely on intuition.
First x3
Btw thank you for posting this video :)
I'm trying to get better at perspective drawings so :)
this is so simple it's making my brain glitch by thinking it's magic
I have a question. This technique helps you find vanishing points off the paper. But from my understanding, for a perfect square (90 degree intersection between lines), you want pairs of vanishing points like 45VP & 45VP, 30VP & 60VP, etc. How can you know which of these vanishing points you're using with the brewer method?
Edit: I ask because I imagine this is very important for reflecting lines across planes, etc.
how about horizon line in man's eye view? is this applicable?
I still don't quite get the "make the grid part" Like do I make a he grid from the axis that are on the higher divisions or am I missing something entirely? I get to the part where I find the upper line and that goes to the left vanishing point and do the divisions as instructed but I still can't quite find the "grid" if that makes sense
can curvilinear perspective works on this?
Dooes the distance between vanishing points vary exponentially if the drawing is drawn with a "wide" lense perspective. People tend to draw them closer giving a more dynamic look.
How do you construct a perfect square using this method?
Seems to me that drawing a more complex structure in two-point perspective would still be quite difficult using this method. Would your solution be to make a more detailed grid structure?
Hi Ryan, I would probably add more sections to the grid, but when drawing in two points perspective you only need to find those two vanishing points and this is how I would do it.
Can you make a video showing how to rotate boxes in perspective free hand?
I’ll be drawing freehand more once most techniques are covered in this series
not kidding i had a 5 meter wooden ruler just for this at home lol thank you so much! (yes a read 2 perspective books none of them talked about this ? and my art class teacher showed me a fucking complicated method that i could never understand lol )
How do you figure out feet to a vanishing point? To measure out a building.
man, seriously, im very grateful to you, i never imagined, never, how the mangakas draw such beatiful buildings but with a small scala variation, thank you so much man
i cant understand how we suppose to draw things on this grid if you risk to draw wrong perspective angles. hope someone answer
does this find the HL?
😅sir i dont know how to durther devide stuff in brewer method . legit i searched a lot am not finding how to further devide brewer grid . my english is not good 😅 would be helpful if u could expamd more on how to draw when vanishing points are off page in both 2 point and three point videos . legit loved all ur perspective videos bro it helped me get over some scott robertson pages i was struggling with . love ur explantion method sir . pls keep up the great content . 😅 and if possible pls tell how could we devide in brewer grid or make perfect square in brewer grid and how can we make brewer grid like grid in 3 point perspective when vanishing points are off page . all in all dope content sir 💪
am sttuggling a lot with the next method on how to draw square from a grid and cube from a grid a lot 😅 i found ur tutorials a help to get the books legit helped me save lot of work . thanks to all ur efforts many new comers are able to get slight grasp of the book .
I want this to be easier.
Max was here
3 point perspective please?
I cant tell if everyone is just not explaining things right or im just stupid. (Probably the latter) But i just can not understand this... I get how he made the grid. i just don't understand how hes using the grid. Like how are the windows, and stairs, and door, etc. in perspective? There still isn't a visible vanishing point and the grid doesn't line up with them. I think im gonna give up nobody can help me get this one...
You lost me at the :54 mark. How do you know the angle for those two horizontal lines on the right? You draw the bottom horizontal line-how do you know what the angle of the top horizontal line should be?
It depends how far u want the right VP to be. If it is too far off the page, then the convergence is small
Basic se kaise siku
The problem of this method is that the picture looks kinda orthographic. You can't really do parallel lines for more dynamic scene.
1. How do you draw those lines and know that they do converge at some point? 0:56 Can't you just do the same in 1:05?
2. You didn't teach that 2:42
3. I don't know how you can do that, do you just eyeball the scaling? 2:53
Second
I've watched this thing three times and don't get it. Maybe just a bit too fast for me.
This is the part of drawing that I hate.. It's too artificial, too, I'm not sure what the word is, too "bothersome" I guess, and just no fun. The off the page vanishing point is really wherever I want it to be to give me the perspective I want. It isn't set in stone. I know when something on paper matches what I see, and when drawing from my imagination, I know when the drawing I'm putting down looks the way it should, which is how I want it to look, which is not always the way the rules would have it look.
I guess what I'm saying is that a vanishing is only as far off the page as I want it to be. I can even move it onto the page, and adjust the drawing accordingly. Another way to look at it is that the page covers as much area as I want it to cover. I can draw a line of building that moves off the page after three buildings, or I can draw a line of buildings that is ten miles long. I can draw a landscape where the horizon is a mile away, or where the horizon is a hundred miles away.
Either way, I don't draw a picture because of where the vanishing point is supposed to be, the vanishing point is where it is because of how I draw the picture.
This is undoubtedly NOT the best way to approach drawing, but it works for me, and it's just more fun.