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If Capcom won a patent lawsuit about having the controller vibrate in response to game mechanics, then it's almost a given that Nintendo will win this.
@adrian_veidt look up craftopia that was made in 2020 and palworld use that game mechanics and the game was meant to be released in 2021 but they postponed it to use unreal engine for amp up the graphics to make it to be released in 2024 but still this is not going to be in Nintendo favor since pocket pair had this patent years before pokemon had their chance to use it lol.
@@supersaiyan3456 indeed. But for pocketpair they both games with the same game mechanics that is craftopia in 2020 and palworld which was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to move from unity to unreal engine. They had advertised their game in 2020 and 2021 for palworld and they had this game in development in 2016. Pokemon Arceus started their's in 2018 and bearly got their patent right in 2024, yeah this is far too late for Nintendo to do anything against them and very embarrassing as well.
The only thing they did was make it famous and maybe improve on it but they are not ogs of creation, This is what I hate about big corporations instead of trying to help each other and trying to want players to play what they created and improve on their own stuff the next time they rather keep it for themselves being very greedy and Justice want the same game over and over because everybody's gonna buy it that loves it and nobody else can make something similar to that because then you have this stuff happening even though it's more a survival game than it is in pokemon game but still
I don't think Nintendo realizes how this is gonna turn out for them if they win. Like if they're actually trying to use their patents to sue this game...what's stopping any other company doing the exact same thing to them and to other companies they are competing with. It's gonna get to the point where the standard genre tropes are suddenly gonna be grounds for a lawsuit if you use them.
I hope a patent war will break out in which every studio , who now realize Nintendo can't be trust with the current honorary system , start to patent any basic game mechanic that Nintendo haven't patented and use it to sue each other who happen to have something that is similar.
@@malikfoxen2045 nope look up craftopia the original game mechanics idea for palworld. That game came out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics and patent rights. This lawsuit is dumb
Look up craftopia that's where palworld game mechanics came from and funny thing is they had that patent first years before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. Also palworld game was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to upgrade with unreal engine to amp up the graphics which came out in 2024. Yeah this lawsuit won't work lol
I hope they lose this lawsuit SOO badly. Ever since WB patented the nemesis system I have absolutely despised this practice and Nintendo MUST lose. If they don't, this will snowball and it will affect games forever. Companies will start doing this, and it will hamper game development in a BIG way. F Nintendo.
@@infinitysynthesis Game records interaction with enemies and then uses said interaction to make adjustments to the game. Said adjustments were VERY rarely relevant in any ways other than a few dialogue change and some minor gameplay changes like immunity to certain damage types. Never made any of them memorable. Definitely didn't stop making Shadow of Mordor and War being mid games
thats what i would like to know... why was this even allowed to begin with... especially after such a long time... like if they did this in the late 90s when the games came out... then maybe.... but the fact that they can patent it 20+ years later? fuck off
As much as I Love Nintendo and Pokemon but I will NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THEIR BULLYING TACTICS against small indie gaming companies like Pocketpair and Palworld and suing them for patent infringement, I've already downloaded Palworld on my PS5 to show some Love and support to Pocketpair.
This is true, whenever one of my pals got sick Id always stop what I was doing to make medicine for them, even if I was out exploring, because I didnt want my cute monsters to be depressed.
fun fact. the developer put out a game called craftopia that used the same exact mechanic. game was released in 2020. a year before nintendo filed any patents.
Yes but you don't throw a sphere shaped object in Craftopia. Its diamond shaped and in palworld they behave identically to pokeballs, which was the point. I have always been against Nintendo's penchant for excessive lawsuits, but no matter how I see it, Nintendo may be in the right on this one.
@@Xparkman30 the better example would have been they better not make another Mario Baseball/Wii Sports game or the MLB would be mad. Which is still a stupid analogy.
@@Ventus777777 regardless the mechanic existed prior to 2021. Nintendo waited until the developer made as much money as possible and then sued them. Nintendo will never be in the right. They are a billion dollar company and i couldn't care less for em.
I hope Nitendo loses!!!! I really do, because it will set a very dangerous precedent in the industry. Imagine someone patenting the mechanic where you hit a character in a game and the damage is displayed as a number, it would be crazy!!! This is so wrong!!!
@@erMKSA they won't win palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics that was out in 2022. This lawsuit won't go in their favor. @erMKSA
They know they cannot do that. Pocketpair is a relatively small indie company that has become nintendo's competition. And nintendo don't like that, so they're basically maliciously filing a lawsuit in hopes to get rid of the competition. I damn well hope nintendo fails.
@@zappli45 Sadly Nintendo wins either way. Either Pocket Pair fights and goes bankrupt, or they settle. Nintendo gets money and intimidates smaller companies from coming up with even a remotely similar concept.
I think Nintendo is doing this because this is easier than trying to make better games. Having no competition allows gamefreak to release broken, buggy mess game after game and give a middle finger to everyone wanting them to do better. Having a competitor would force them to actually learn how to program games.
@@zeekay9941 yet palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They will have no choice but to accept that palworld has the right like any other games @zeekay9941
@@MrJinRoh Pocket Pair didn't copy shit...except for grass type cinderace, that one is legit the only thing they could get pocket pair on, nothing a simple redesign can't fix though. But yeah, no. Nintendo's lawyers checked out palworld before the game launched and gave pocketpair the green light, so this whole "they copied" shit is just that, bullshit, nonsensical, an incorrect statement if you will.
@@MrJinRoh palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They can't take that way from them
What a divine force of retribution that would be. Given both companies have skin in the game, it might be a great opportunity for them to get some dirt on Nintendo. Maybe Ubisoft should join in since their tower navigation game mechanic was copied from Assasins Creed to Breath of the Wild.
Maybe the plan on losing the battle but winning the war. I mean they could bankrupt the with legal fees in court with lawyers and extending the court time.
Basically Nintendo is suing Palworld inorder to get rid of their competition by any means necessary which is very malicious of Nintendo to do considering that this court case seems sus to me, what else does Nintendo gain from suing the developers of Palworld? Let's just be honest Nintendo is more afraid of losing to an actual competitor that is actually making people choose Xbox and PC and possibly very soon PlayStation over Nintendo because people have been asking for a more mature version of Pokemon but obviously they didn't do it so a competitor actually Rises to fill in that Gap, but then Nintendo pretty much goes overboard and decides no we're not going to have competition let's sue them so we can get rid of our competition to shut down the game and force those 23 million players to play Pokemon instead. Let's just be honest Nintendo pretty much doesn't want competition at all when it comes to Pokemon so yeah it seems kind of sus when you see what the lawsuit is actually about and to be honest it seems ridiculous and at the same time very suspicious indeed on why Nintendo is suing.
Everyone seems to be getting caught up on it being a sphere or ball. If you read the patent it doesn't mention this all it says is an item. So it wouldn't matter if it was a ball, a cube or even a net.
Yeah. Considering how many pet monster games are out there now that use something similar, like Coromon, this would be damaging to the genre as a whole. Not to mention how this could extend to other genres like Zelda-likes and various Mario inspired platformers.
While Nintendo can play benevolent by giving the many lesser Games who treat on their turf the benefit, whilst under them do not flourish as much as they could. Appearing benign when what they do comes from a monopolistic corporate malicious stance. They also took shamelessly over the Artstyle of Yokai Watch for their Pokemon Anime, just to stay relevant even ahead of the curve. Taking in Yokai Watch as one of their supported Games, to once again, appear as a benign force that gently forces the Boot on the rivaling franchise so it can't grow or thrive. They couldn't get Pocketpair to side with them, once they realized what it became, which in turn infuriates them. They lost control, hence looking to the lawsuit options for so long; as in court and japan they are favored always showing their gold side only. Except us in the West saw often enough the brown Chocolate (you know what i mean) beneath the Wrapper of gold. Yet they are big players in Japan, the biggest, with many favorites played to for it.
I find patent suing for a game mechanic is a scummy law practice. It's like making a mine field and hope someone trigger even if they didn't even mean to. I hope Nintendo will lose more than they can get from this law suit.
Perhaps if Nintendo made a good Pokémon game and stopped regurgitating the same rubbish, then there would have not been a market for a new "Catch a monster" game in the first place.
@@VampireGUK also what logic is that PlayStation and Xbox players can't play Pokemon so they would want something of that genre anyway regardless of pokemon
@@lightdarksoul2097 Sorry my logic is, that the last few Pokemon have been a bit rubbish and samey in my view. I appreciate there is a massive market for Xbox, PS and PC for a Pokemon type game and Palworld has filled that void. However the platform that they do pokemon on ie the switch, they are lacking any real innovation, I love the fact Palworld has filled a space for other platforms, but Nintendo Pokemon games currently are lacking and I think Palworld has obviously made them worry.
Nintendo needs to lose. I don’t get why game mechanics need to be patented. Not only does it stifle creativity, it alone is whats preventing the game industry from being any better.
This is why I stopped supporting Nintendo Years ago. They should not even have made this patent. Notice this was patent was submitted in 2023. After they new about Palworld. Can you patent something that someone else already has developed?
I believe the patent was submitted in Japan in 2021, while in America it was 2023. And I believe this was specifically for when Legends Arceus was coming out(I could be wrong). Now, the reason the 2021 date is important(if I’m not wrong) is because the lawsuit was filed in Japan, not the US. Either way, it’s a messy situation. I’ll be honest, this is just my opinion, but Pocketpair knew what they were doing with this game, not even trying to hide their “inspiration”however, if they would have used any other shape other than a spherical ball, there would be no lawsuit.
@@TheIssac1070 Thanks for the clarification. I just think that it is so scummy that nintendo has these patents. I know some other game companies do the same. Should not be able to patent game mechanics.
I gave up on Nintendo the moment they tried putting a digital tollbooth on our own internet. They're just lazy now. It's just that they have so much money and fame to be able to continue to.
Nintendo won't go for company's that ain't competition since both pokemon and dragon quest are both on Nintendo platform games even though there made by different companies which is also why there aiming at palworld right now since its on a completely different platform that rivals Nintendo
@@lightdarksoul2097 slimes arent the only monsters in dragonquest and you can find the monsters theyre referring to with an easy google search. Go look.
This certainly would set a dangerous precedent if Nintendo were to win really seems like they know they can’t win on copyright grounds so they are going this patent infringement route. Scummy if you ask me.
Pocketpair can win by bringing examples of nintendo not sueing other game devs that use the same system. I certainly hope they do win because patents like these stifle game innovation and make the industry worse. People already hate AAA game dev companies, and this just makes folks hate them more.
It doesn't help Nintendo that they're effectively suing Pocketpair retroactively, considering Craftopia existed before the filing of the patent. However, Nintendo lawyers are notorious, and Japan is Japan.
@@ShinAk1raSama Yep you're right. Would the judge tribunal know of pocketpair? Probably not. Would they know of nintendo? Almost certainly. That's all it'd likely come down to in the end.
it took 28 years to patent an animal going into a ball? it took 28 years to patent a ball being thrown with an animal coming out of a ball? it took 28 years to patent animals fighting other animals in a video game? this is so ridiculous. Edit coming up on 3 decades in 2 years...
In which Atari game can you jump? I'm not asking to refute you haha Ironically the first game I know where you can jump is Donkey Kong haha that's why I ask, I got curious
Nintendo is gonna get a lot of hate for being so petty, they're just mad because they didn't create Pokeworld first. And there were other similar games like Digimon...
If Nintendo does this, maybe Ubisoft should sue the hell out of Nintendo for using their Assassins Creed tower navigation game mechanic in Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. It's only fair if this precedent is set.
It would be additionally funny, because I think a general opinion in Japan is that Nintendo is in the right in regards to Nintendo vs Palworld. But I also think that Japan generally dislikes Ubisoft right now. To see Ubisoft sueing Nintendo for patents, and see how the Japanese would react to that would be very entertaining. Overall, from what I have gathered from most Japanese on the internet atleast. The reason they are on Nintendos side is because Nintendo had a right to sue, and because they believe Palworld disrespected Nintendo by trying to make their IP bigger. Also Palworld's CEO allegedly called Nintendo switch bad hardware, so Pocket Pair is hated as a result. I do wonder if they would argue for or against Ubisoft sueing Nintendo. I don't think Ubisoft has a patent on the tower thing? Not entirely sure, but it would both be horrifying and funny to see Nintendo's current lawsuit set precedent for alle lawsuits going forward. We may lose our favorite hobby which is gaming, but we'll be getting a couple of years worth of entertainment in terms of lawsuits.
You know in Japan there's people who dont like Nintendo also dislike how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit right? Most ytber never report how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit and be on their side when all they do is try to play victim on twitter. Which doesn't go well with Japanese gamers.
The fact Nintendo thinks capturing monsters with a pokeball is new says allot about how dumb that company has got. A pokeball is no different than using a trap on a creature. If Nintendo actually spent time trying to make a good pokemon game they wouldn't be loosing out to somebody who does it better than them.
Unfortunately I do think Nintendo has enough of a case to bury them in legal fees or at least make them so miserable they give in. The gamer in me hopes they can survive this though because we need far more just straight up FUN games like this. Their overnight success proves that.
I don't think Nintendo wants to sue PocketPair for fairness or anything like that; they just want to bankrupt PocketPair until they're out of money and the company shuts down or can't recover. This is a dirty business tactic used by many billion dollar companies, especially in Japan. Furthermore, if you're wondering why Nintendo didn't sue over the Pal designs, it's because even if they won, they couldn't kill off Palworld. At most, they would just change the Pal models. But this time, Nintendo is targeting the game's mechanics, which can't be easily changed, what a scummy
Nintendo waited till 2021 to put in the pattern request. The first Pokémon game came out in 1996. They should have tried to pattern it back then if it mattered that much. Hopefully Pocket Pair, Inc can use the fact they waited so long as a defence. Plus Nintendo should not have been able to Patten it cause of such a long delay from when it was first used. Time of it just seems so dirty and is showing Nintendo in a bad light to me.
The friendly, smiling face of Myamoto, as he stands knee deep in scumbaggery. Nintendo has been involved in so many lawsuits, eventually they have to lose, i hope this will be the time.
You want Nintendo to lose? Make a Huge Public Post calling out Nintendo and Calling for Everyone to Boycott all Nintendo Products. Make them Hurt in their Wallets. This Message can also be for Every Other Company and Industry too.
It is never ok to steal. Just because the higher ups of a company is garbage doesn't make actions that you do that negatively impact the actual workers. People who talk about things like this as an excuse to be a thief are just using it to justify their deplorable activities. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
Palworld is more similar to Ark than Pokémon... The pokeball thing is funny, pretty sure square has a game where they capture monsters with cubes. There are many games where they capture creatures with throwable traps. It's basically prior art at this point
I hope this is the first L they get this is ridiculous. Secondly change the Balls to discs or a laser leash that reels them into a trap. God this is beyond petty and Nintendo is feeling the heat I bet.
Interestingly the patents they say are infringed were not registered until months after Palworld was released , which should in itself be unlawful , on a game that the world knew about years ago
Fight to protect your property know matter what... Nintendo had to pay for a patent used during the 3ds wiiu Era! Why patent something if you're not going to protect it?
Where the hell was all this bluster when TemTem was coming up? What? TemTem wasn't successful enough for you to care? Is Game Freak crying about the possibility that they might have to innovate so Daddy Nintendo is sending their army of lawyers? 😂
Yeah, that's pretty much it. They would rather use money to bribe lawyers than make a genuinely good game utilizing the most successful and lucrative entertainment IP in history, lol. Absolutely lazy and deplorable company.
@@zeng58 They have the patents, very good lawyers, and took the time to review everything before pursuing it. If they weren't certain they would win, they wouldn't have filed it.
I'd like to think that would solve things but I believe that just opens the floodgates for them or someone else to patent *anything* retroactively to the effect of gutting any threat to their golden calf. So no.
The problem with this is this lawsuit isn't about that it's about gutting a potential big name game. As of right now it has the signs of becoming a behemoth like Pokémon as it has multiple big name company partners is having a card game and anime in the works and the game is only getting better. Nintendo see's this and wants to crush it now vs the future when it's too big for them to crush. If Palworld gives in it sets a toxic permission system for this to happen again today it's palworld tomorrow it could be Monster hunter for its monster mounting mechanic(Pokémon also recently patented that too) Palworld needs to fight this and fortunately they have 2 new behemoth partners with Sony and one of the big name anime companies in Japan and I think they know Palworld is going to be a behemoth and could very likely help them.
@@megaman37456 Not only that, they're now backed by Sony as well. Sony partnered with them to get a multiplat deal, as well as an anime and merchandising line. Everyone thinks Nintendo has this lawsuit in the bag but if Sony and Microsoft get involved, then it's going to get bloody very quickly.
@@ivanklaric5341 that's what I'm curious about because together they made palworld entertainment. Which they either back pocketpair or back away from something they helped create being palworld entertainment.
@@ivanklaric5341don’t forget, Sony just lost 400M cause of concord. If they are gonna bet on Palworld and fight against Nintendo, they gonna need to believe Palworld is worth it. Worst case scenario, Nintendo would also lose another competitor in the console battle.
Destin you should have had a chat with someone with Patent law knowledge because I don't think you're knowledgeable enough like saying stuff like " no one can use this idea forever etc " man patents are not forever. Patents generally have a limited duration, and after that period, the invention enters the public domain, meaning anyone can use it without permission from the patent holder.
Stfu 20 years is too much is more than two generation it takes forever not to mention it was public domain at first you didn't made anything out of the thin air you probably got inspired by real life and implemented in game
Square Enix patented the leveling system, specifically to stop Patent Trolls from swooping it up. If they hadn't, Nintendo would be suing Pocket Pair for having leveling.
Given how most of the patents that Nintendo are (probably) sueing for were only APPLIED for AFTER Palworld’s release, Pocket pair has a decent defense that some of Nintendo’s claims may be illegitimate, unless they are spontaneously granted before any hearings start
Nintendo is so blinded by its own ego that it can’t see the obvious pr damage this lawsuit will do to them. There is absolutely zero scenario where they are the good guy in this situation. All these companies are so obsessed with business that they forgot what gets them money in the first place.
@@ausgod538 You can only con someone so long before they stop falling for your BS. It's not so easy to hide their BS these days like it was decades ago. Regardless of your opinion or mine, this is not going to go well for Nintendo regardless of whether they win or lose that is fact, there are people willing to stop buying their products over this and that is bad for business if you are a Business like they are. And like you said, the Internet isn't the world, there are dozens of millions of people that keep their opinions to themselves. There will be a time where this lawsuit comes back to bite them in the ass.
Sony and XBox are backing the developers of Palworld, so I doubt Nintendo's winning so easily. And, win or lose, this paints a VERY big target on Nintendo's back. some people are saying Bandai might be FIRST to try and sue them and steal some patents BACK.
Imagine if Rock Star said naw we did car jacking first in video games and it's patented so you can't do that. Or if nintendo said we did Karting first in a video game.
This is just a rumor but apparently Nintendo file a pattern about monster catching using balls mechanic explicitly to sue Palworld. I really hope they lose in this case if this is true.
A key part with the Shadow of Mordor Nemesis system is it was patented before the game came out I believe. Pokemon is trying to patent mechanics decades after they came out, and strangely depending on which patent is being sued over months after Palworld was released. Retroactively trying to sue for Patents over long existing mechanics seems wrong. But as the video mentioned, this is only in Japan right now and they heavily favor Nintendo. It would be like trying to get a ruling against Amazon in the US.
This just shouldn’t be a thing like couldn’t any billion dollar company just say I created this mechanic no one else is able to use it I think we should pirate all Nintendo games
Everyone saying this is dirty this shouldn’t be happening, but my question is What’s Pokémon’s Nintendo’s damages? Don’t get me wrong I love Pokémon we all do but it’s pretty much all the same thing but now if they can make a Pokémon for all platforms that could be a game changer but what is the damages.
They are gonna loose what I notice when a company gets bigger than them they tend to bite. This patent lawsuit is unprofessional and seriously stupid I really dislike Nintendo now
Playstation could literally win their fans back right now if they joined palworld and defended this, nintendo likes to pick on the smaller guys its about time somebody humbles them.
If that's the case Capcom wouldn't allow any other fighting game than their own. Also there were some that tried that shit and didn't work in the past. Nintendo DID lost minor cases and swept them under the rag, and more than likely Nintendo try to bleed them money before getting even bigger but Sony stepped in. Nintendo also fked up with their attitude towards the consumers driving them to unsavoury tactics to play their games. They're pretty much digging their own grave little by little
Pokèmon has really gone too far with their actions especially with gimmicks like Mega Evolutions or Gigantamax. I may like Pokèmon, but Pokèmon should be ashamed of themselves on bullying other monster franchises like Digimon, Monster Rancher, Yu-Gi-Oh, Neopets, Yo-Kai Watch, Palworld, Bakugan, Monster Hunter, TemTem, Monsuno, Moshi Monsters, or Chaotic as well as monopolizing the monster taming genre. Ultra Seven and Norman Bridwell's How to care for your Monster revolutionized the monster taming genre. Without Ultra Seven and Norman Bridwell's How to care for your Monster, there would be no well-known monster franchises including Pokèmon. If Pokèmon wins the lawsuit, it would be goodbye to various monster franchises like Digimon, Monster Rancher, Yu-Gi-Oh, Neopets, Yo-Kai Watch, Palworld, Bakugan, Monster Hunter, Monsuno, Moshi Monsters, or Chaotic as well as potential future monster franchises.
Nintendo and Pokémon need to step out from their little bubble of “nice, family friendly” games and develop games that can challenge AAA games globally. Imagine an actual Pokémon version of palworld, with big money behind it? Not a little child running around in shorts with a friendly rival doing lessons.
The key is Japanese patent law it may be different to western countries law , the sad thing this is going to take years and a lot money and could even cost the profits made from palworld.
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I hope not, I love palworld.
@@likeaboss3160same reason now im not buying a Nintendo palworld for life
If Capcom won a patent lawsuit about having the controller vibrate in response to game mechanics, then it's almost a given that Nintendo will win this.
Yes.
@@frankkent5567 So if Nintendo wins do you think they will take palworld off the store or not make it available :/?
Man, pokemon stole from shin megami tensei and Dragon quest. They stole a lot of designs from DQ.
Yet they act as if they invented this game mechanic
@adrian_veidt look up craftopia that was made in 2020 and palworld use that game mechanics and the game was meant to be released in 2021 but they postponed it to use unreal engine for amp up the graphics to make it to be released in 2024 but still this is not going to be in Nintendo favor since pocket pair had this patent years before pokemon had their chance to use it lol.
Even the pokeballs where taken from a game called Robotrek, this is complete hypocrisy from them.
@@supersaiyan3456 indeed. But for pocketpair they both games with the same game mechanics that is craftopia in 2020 and palworld which was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to move from unity to unreal engine. They had advertised their game in 2020 and 2021 for palworld and they had this game in development in 2016. Pokemon Arceus started their's in 2018 and bearly got their patent right in 2024, yeah this is far too late for Nintendo to do anything against them and very embarrassing as well.
Ultra Seven and Norman Bridwell's How to care for your Monster revolutionized the monster taming genre.
The only thing they did was make it famous and maybe improve on it but they are not ogs of creation, This is what I hate about big corporations instead of trying to help each other and trying to want players to play what they created and improve on their own stuff the next time they rather keep it for themselves being very greedy and Justice want the same game over and over because everybody's gonna buy it that loves it and nobody else can make something similar to that because then you have this stuff happening even though it's more a survival game than it is in pokemon game but still
I don't think Nintendo realizes how this is gonna turn out for them if they win. Like if they're actually trying to use their patents to sue this game...what's stopping any other company doing the exact same thing to them and to other companies they are competing with. It's gonna get to the point where the standard genre tropes are suddenly gonna be grounds for a lawsuit if you use them.
I hope a patent war will break out in which every studio , who now realize Nintendo can't be trust with the current honorary system , start to patent any basic game mechanic that Nintendo haven't patented and use it to sue each other who happen to have something that is similar.
If that happens it will be a complete disaster!
Well PubG sued Fortnite for using their battle royale game mode and they lost because it was a game mode and not a copy of the game.
@@erickeating300 PubG's developers aren't based on Japan. This is a Japanese issue.
@@erickeating300 PUBG didn't patent it.
The patents that Nintendo has secured are pretty broad,, possibly too broad. A Nintendo win stifles creativity to a ridiculous degree.
Trademark of crooked lawyer at work , they make everything super vague so they can use it or bail out from it if thing not go theirs way .
@@malikfoxen2045 nope look up craftopia the original game mechanics idea for palworld. That game came out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics and patent rights. This lawsuit is dumb
@@outlawstar2090 I think you were responding to the wrong person, or didnt understand what I said.
"Nintendo has never lost a lawsuit..."
There is a first time for everything.
@@gregoryrousseau5155 look into the Emblem Saga lawsuit, Nintendo lost there
Never forget the Game Genie
Never forget Blockbuster
@@Bryanneo1 ah the game genie.
Look up craftopia that's where palworld game mechanics came from and funny thing is they had that patent first years before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. Also palworld game was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to upgrade with unreal engine to amp up the graphics which came out in 2024. Yeah this lawsuit won't work lol
I hope they lose this lawsuit SOO badly. Ever since WB patented the nemesis system I have absolutely despised this practice and Nintendo MUST lose. If they don't, this will snowball and it will affect games forever. Companies will start doing this, and it will hamper game development in a BIG way. F Nintendo.
No they must win
The thing from Shadow of Mordor? I didn't realize it was such an innovation to be patentable.
@@hittkid6312 apparently they can patent a lot of things nowadays unfortunately 😩
@@hittkid6312 That just shows you know nothing about that system. Look it up.
@@infinitysynthesis Game records interaction with enemies and then uses said interaction to make adjustments to the game. Said adjustments were VERY rarely relevant in any ways other than a few dialogue change and some minor gameplay changes like immunity to certain damage types. Never made any of them memorable. Definitely didn't stop making Shadow of Mordor and War being mid games
How in hell do those patens even accepted in the first place
thats what i would like to know... why was this even allowed to begin with... especially after such a long time... like if they did this in the late 90s when the games came out... then maybe.... but the fact that they can patent it 20+ years later? fuck off
Thats the point of a patent
Money.
......and a time.
Bribes.
As much as I Love Nintendo and Pokemon but I will NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THEIR BULLYING TACTICS against small indie gaming companies like Pocketpair and Palworld and suing them for patent infringement, I've already downloaded Palworld on my PS5 to show some Love and support to Pocketpair.
pocketpair made a game where i actually care about my monsters, pokemon lost its spirit years ago
This is true, whenever one of my pals got sick Id always stop what I was doing to make medicine for them, even if I was out exploring, because I didnt want my cute monsters to be depressed.
Heck. The game lets you be diabolical towards them or even people.
@@greschenglin-dz7wj its the great equalizer. it shows the kind of person you really are.
Pokemon meanwhile to afraid to be a little bit mature@@JDReC100
Pokemon scarlet is the game of the year
fun fact. the developer put out a game called craftopia that used the same exact mechanic. game was released in 2020. a year before nintendo filed any patents.
Yes but you don't throw a sphere shaped object in Craftopia. Its diamond shaped and in palworld they behave identically to pokeballs, which was the point. I have always been against Nintendo's penchant for excessive lawsuits, but no matter how I see it, Nintendo may be in the right on this one.
@@Ventus777777I guess baseball better stop throwing sphere shaped objects as a main part of their sport, otherwise Nintendo might get mad.
@@Xparkman30 yeah because you can totally capture other players in a ball while playing baseball
@@Xparkman30 the better example would have been they better not make another Mario Baseball/Wii Sports game or the MLB would be mad. Which is still a stupid analogy.
@@Ventus777777 regardless the mechanic existed prior to 2021. Nintendo waited until the developer made as much money as possible and then sued them. Nintendo will never be in the right. They are a billion dollar company and i couldn't care less for em.
I hope Nitendo loses!!!! I really do, because it will set a very dangerous precedent in the industry. Imagine someone patenting the mechanic where you hit a character in a game and the damage is displayed as a number, it would be crazy!!! This is so wrong!!!
Or buy used.
It's happened before, I don't know why this is news.
@@erMKSA they won't win palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics that was out in 2022. This lawsuit won't go in their favor. @erMKSA
@@outlawstar2090 Hopefully, because these laws sometimes don't make any sense.
I agree, Pokèmon should be ashamed of themselves on bullying other monster franchises.
Why do i have a feeling that Nintendo will sue the entire gaming industry just by their mere existence.
They would lose the ability to breathe.
If they do, prepare to face many many counter sue.
They know they cannot do that.
Pocketpair is a relatively small indie company that has become nintendo's competition.
And nintendo don't like that, so they're basically maliciously filing a lawsuit in hopes to get rid of the competition.
I damn well hope nintendo fails.
@@zappli45 Sadly Nintendo wins either way. Either Pocket Pair fights and goes bankrupt, or they settle. Nintendo gets money and intimidates smaller companies from coming up with even a remotely similar concept.
@@sarahsturgill9262 that would highly depend on the lawyers and importantly, the judge.
I think Nintendo is doing this because this is easier than trying to make better games. Having no competition allows gamefreak to release broken, buggy mess game after game and give a middle finger to everyone wanting them to do better. Having a competitor would force them to actually learn how to program games.
@@zeekay9941 yet palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They will have no choice but to accept that palworld has the right like any other games @zeekay9941
This is terrible I hope Palworld beats Pokemon in the lawsuit
Then they will get a new court. They copied too much. There is no chance of surviving with this attitude at making games.
@@MrJinRoh Pocket Pair didn't copy shit...except for grass type cinderace, that one is legit the only thing they could get pocket pair on, nothing a simple redesign can't fix though.
But yeah, no. Nintendo's lawyers checked out palworld before the game launched and gave pocketpair the green light, so this whole "they copied" shit is just that, bullshit, nonsensical, an incorrect statement if you will.
@@MrJinRoh palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They can't take that way from them
Digimon and other monster franchises: We're supporting you Palworld.
@@cliffordkun2844 Sony : We're supporting you palworld.
The second a company actually starts competing with them and they throw a fit... They're too afraid to let this monopoly crumble.
Now that i think about it...imagine, JUST IMAGINE, If this issue finally put X-Box and Play Station into a truce to joint forces and help Palworld? XD
i would PAY to see that
Considering Sony and Microsoft both back pocketpair that may happen
I am keeping a close eye in hopes this happens.
What a divine force of retribution that would be. Given both companies have skin in the game, it might be a great opportunity for them to get some dirt on Nintendo. Maybe Ubisoft should join in since their tower navigation game mechanic was copied from Assasins Creed to Breath of the Wild.
@@bryanmerel that’s a PPV event right there.
Never forget that Nintendo began life as a Yakuza racket.
Never forget what Nintendo did to Argonaut Software.
What did they do?
@@-TriP- and "adult" hotels as wells Nintendo known for far more than just gaming especially in Japan
Maybe the plan on losing the battle but winning the war. I mean they could bankrupt the with legal fees in court with lawyers and extending the court time.
Basically Nintendo is suing Palworld inorder to get rid of their competition by any means necessary which is very malicious of Nintendo to do considering that this court case seems sus to me, what else does Nintendo gain from suing the developers of Palworld? Let's just be honest Nintendo is more afraid of losing to an actual competitor that is actually making people choose Xbox and PC and possibly very soon PlayStation over Nintendo because people have been asking for a more mature version of Pokemon but obviously they didn't do it so a competitor actually Rises to fill in that Gap, but then Nintendo pretty much goes overboard and decides no we're not going to have competition let's sue them so we can get rid of our competition to shut down the game and force those 23 million players to play Pokemon instead.
Let's just be honest Nintendo pretty much doesn't want competition at all when it comes to Pokemon so yeah it seems kind of sus when you see what the lawsuit is actually about and to be honest it seems ridiculous and at the same time very suspicious indeed on why Nintendo is suing.
I will patent character putting one leg in front of the other to walk and sue anyone who dare infringe this
sure you will poor boy.
Everyone seems to be getting caught up on it being a sphere or ball. If you read the patent it doesn't mention this all it says is an item. So it wouldn't matter if it was a ball, a cube or even a net.
Yeah. Considering how many pet monster games are out there now that use something similar, like Coromon, this would be damaging to the genre as a whole. Not to mention how this could extend to other genres like Zelda-likes and various Mario inspired platformers.
While Nintendo can play benevolent by giving the many lesser Games who treat on their turf the benefit, whilst under them do not flourish as much as they could. Appearing benign when what they do comes from a monopolistic corporate malicious stance. They also took shamelessly over the Artstyle of Yokai Watch for their Pokemon Anime, just to stay relevant even ahead of the curve. Taking in Yokai Watch as one of their supported Games, to once again, appear as a benign force that gently forces the Boot on the rivaling franchise so it can't grow or thrive.
They couldn't get Pocketpair to side with them, once they realized what it became, which in turn infuriates them. They lost control, hence looking to the lawsuit options for so long; as in court and japan they are favored always showing their gold side only. Except us in the West saw often enough the brown Chocolate (you know what i mean) beneath the Wrapper of gold. Yet they are big players in Japan, the biggest, with many favorites played to for it.
This reminds me of PUBG suing Fortnite.
May that history repeat. Scummy law practice should be abolished.
I didn’t know that actually happened 😂 I’m so tired of Nintendo 😐
Has anyone ever heard of Digimon?
Different properties and didgimon was technically first
@@bms2010 you totally missed the point.
@lottji I didn't miss it I completely got it, your point is just lame and been played out since 2001
@lottji and my point is that it's not a pokemon rip off because that where you were going with your stupid point
I Will Definitely Buy Palworld Now. Nintendo Sucks
No Nintendo is better come on
@@TheSpeedfoever they may have great games but this crossed a line that should not have been crossed
@@TheSpeedfoever You're A Fascist, Just Like Hideki_Tojo.
@@TheSpeedfoeverstop licking their toes, they don't care about you
@@TheSpeedfoever No, Nintendo really isn't better.
This is officially making me hate nintendo more and more.
Geez. Corporate greed knows no limits. Fucking disgusting. I get the characters etc but mechanics, phew.
I find patent suing for a game mechanic is a scummy law practice.
It's like making a mine field and hope someone trigger even if they didn't even mean to.
I hope Nintendo will lose more than they can get from this law suit.
Perhaps if Nintendo made a good Pokémon game and stopped regurgitating the same rubbish, then there would have not been a market for a new "Catch a monster" game in the first place.
It isn't even on the same system it isn't the same market
not true lol
@@VampireGUK also what logic is that PlayStation and Xbox players can't play Pokemon so they would want something of that genre anyway regardless of pokemon
They already made good ones even ZA is gonna be awesome
@@lightdarksoul2097 Sorry my logic is, that the last few Pokemon have been a bit rubbish and samey in my view. I appreciate there is a massive market for Xbox, PS and PC for a Pokemon type game and Palworld has filled that void. However the platform that they do pokemon on ie the switch, they are lacking any real innovation, I love the fact Palworld has filled a space for other platforms, but Nintendo Pokemon games currently are lacking and I think Palworld has obviously made them worry.
Nintendo needs to lose. I don’t get why game mechanics need to be patented. Not only does it stifle creativity, it alone is whats preventing the game industry from being any better.
This is why I stopped supporting Nintendo Years ago. They should not even have made this patent. Notice this was patent was submitted in 2023. After they new about Palworld. Can you patent something that someone else already has developed?
I believe the patent was submitted in Japan in 2021, while in America it was 2023. And I believe this was specifically for when Legends Arceus was coming out(I could be wrong). Now, the reason the 2021 date is important(if I’m not wrong) is because the lawsuit was filed in Japan, not the US. Either way, it’s a messy situation. I’ll be honest, this is just my opinion, but Pocketpair knew what they were doing with this game, not even trying to hide their “inspiration”however, if they would have used any other shape other than a spherical ball, there would be no lawsuit.
@@TheIssac1070PalWorld was revealed back in 2020 as a teaser trailer with game mechanic footage already.
@@TheIssac1070 Thanks for the clarification. I just think that it is so scummy that nintendo has these patents. I know some other game companies do the same. Should not be able to patent game mechanics.
I gave up on Nintendo the moment they tried putting a digital tollbooth on our own internet.
They're just lazy now. It's just that they have so much money and fame to be able to continue to.
Nintendo stole the Pokémon idea from Dragon Quest. I guess Dragod Quest didn't have the money to sue Nintendo, or they just didn't care.
Nintendo won't go for company's that ain't competition since both pokemon and dragon quest are both on Nintendo platform games even though there made by different companies which is also why there aiming at palworld right now since its on a completely different platform that rivals Nintendo
I just wanna make Nintendo lose all their money somehow
Impossible, and I’m not even a huge Nintendo fan. They have so many dear loved ip’s. People will flock.
If their next console isn't BC, then I can see it happening.
@@TheSoxor123 truth
I hope so too ngl
@@krazyd0nut404 not entirely.
Just imagine if Nintendo patented platforming or 1ups(extra lives) this is crazy smh
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried back in the day.
It wouldn't matter now. Japanese patents last 20 years.
Most games use a checkpoint system now so it wouldn't be such a big deal.
@@DivineHand125 it's just the thought of what we think of basic mechanics being weaponized or the possibility of such
@@DivineHand125 But are they the first one to come to a lawfirm and patent it ? Hmm ?
Let's not forget when Nintendo ripped off King Kong and was sued for it in 1983 😭 they've been copying others since the beginning
iirc they won the lawsuit and for a fair reason because it was impossible to confuse king kong with donkey kong, the games were pretty different
@@DictatePM they did win the lawsuit, it was over the characters likeness and not the game though
Let's not forget Pokemon originally stole dragon quest monster likenesses the irony is too prevalent
I don't think slime looks like a pokemon
@@lightdarksoul2097 slimes arent the only monsters in dragonquest and you can find the monsters theyre referring to with an easy google search. Go look.
@@lightdarksoul2097You don't know what you're talking about
@@jesseritchie9282 isnt that dragon quests most famous monster or do you not know dragon quest
@@lightdarksoul2097 just google image search "dragonquest vs pokemon" it should be the first thing that comes up
This is why i make sure to pirate anything related to Nintendo.
A man of quality
I wanna hack my switch so bad.
Based. Watch the Nintendrones melt down over you saying that though. 😂
I must admit I definitely have a love/hate relationship with Nintendo. The hate is so warranted!
Switch games just play much better on PC anyway
This certainly would set a dangerous precedent if Nintendo were to win really seems like they know they can’t win on copyright grounds so they are going this patent infringement route. Scummy if you ask me.
Little guy is doing well and the big guy is being a dick about it.
Change the ball to a cube
Nah, don’t think that’s what they’re suing for. It’s the principle of throwing an object at a creature to catch it.
Pocketpair can win by bringing examples of nintendo not sueing other game devs that use the same system.
I certainly hope they do win because patents like these stifle game innovation and make the industry worse. People already hate AAA game dev companies, and this just makes folks hate them more.
It doesn't help Nintendo that they're effectively suing Pocketpair retroactively, considering Craftopia existed before the filing of the patent. However, Nintendo lawyers are notorious, and Japan is Japan.
@@ShinAk1raSama Yep you're right. Would the judge tribunal know of pocketpair? Probably not. Would they know of nintendo? Almost certainly. That's all it'd likely come down to in the end.
it took 28 years to patent an animal going into a ball? it took 28 years to patent a ball being thrown with an animal coming out of a ball? it took 28 years to patent animals fighting other animals in a video game? this is so ridiculous. Edit coming up on 3 decades in 2 years...
I hope they lose this lawsuit. I hope people start boycotting Nintendo. Nintendo is a black company.
Atari should sue nintendo for stealing their jump mechanic
In which Atari game can you jump? I'm not asking to refute you haha Ironically the first game I know where you can jump is Donkey Kong haha that's why I ask, I got curious
@@andres20111996 steeplechase - 1975
@@andres20111996 steeplechase - 1975
Nintendo is gonna get a lot of hate for being so petty, they're just mad because they didn't create Pokeworld first. And there were other similar games like Digimon...
If Nintendo does this, maybe Ubisoft should sue the hell out of Nintendo for using their Assassins Creed tower navigation game mechanic in Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild. It's only fair if this precedent is set.
It would be additionally funny, because I think a general opinion in Japan is that Nintendo is in the right in regards to Nintendo vs Palworld. But I also think that Japan generally dislikes Ubisoft right now. To see Ubisoft sueing Nintendo for patents, and see how the Japanese would react to that would be very entertaining.
Overall, from what I have gathered from most Japanese on the internet atleast. The reason they are on Nintendos side is because Nintendo had a right to sue, and because they believe Palworld disrespected Nintendo by trying to make their IP bigger. Also Palworld's CEO allegedly called Nintendo switch bad hardware, so Pocket Pair is hated as a result.
I do wonder if they would argue for or against Ubisoft sueing Nintendo. I don't think Ubisoft has a patent on the tower thing? Not entirely sure, but it would both be horrifying and funny to see Nintendo's current lawsuit set precedent for alle lawsuits going forward. We may lose our favorite hobby which is gaming, but we'll be getting a couple of years worth of entertainment in terms of lawsuits.
People will just keep kissing Nintendo’s mediocre ass. We will be doomed to Nintendo’s one cartoon aesthetic and awful stories.
just like splatoon's story modes. hardly that impactful. just petty and lack of contents and missing potentials.
The silent majority disagrees with you, tick tock!
Nah, i won't. I don't care about their shit games they never seeimg my money again.
You know in Japan there's people who dont like Nintendo also dislike how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit right? Most ytber never report how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit and be on their side when all they do is try to play victim on twitter. Which doesn't go well with Japanese gamers.
@@Mario123007nintendrone detected, opinion discarded.
The fact Nintendo thinks capturing monsters with a pokeball is new says allot about how dumb that company has got. A pokeball is no different than using a trap on a creature. If Nintendo actually spent time trying to make a good pokemon game they wouldn't be loosing out to somebody who does it better than them.
Losing out? They have more sales and at a higher price
Ok I like palworld more I need to fish the achievements before it happens
I think its coming to wonder woman also nemesis
Unfortunately I do think Nintendo has enough of a case to bury them in legal fees or at least make them so miserable they give in. The gamer in me hopes they can survive this though because we need far more just straight up FUN games like this. Their overnight success proves that.
I don't think Nintendo wants to sue PocketPair for fairness or anything like that; they just want to bankrupt PocketPair until they're out of money and the company shuts down or can't recover. This is a dirty business tactic used by many billion dollar companies, especially in Japan. Furthermore, if you're wondering why Nintendo didn't sue over the Pal designs, it's because even if they won, they couldn't kill off Palworld. At most, they would just change the Pal models. But this time, Nintendo is targeting the game's mechanics, which can't be easily changed, what a scummy
I no longer will support anything Nintendo
Nintendo waited till 2021 to put in the pattern request. The first Pokémon game came out in 1996. They should have tried to pattern it back then if it mattered that much. Hopefully Pocket Pair, Inc can use the fact they waited so long as a defence. Plus Nintendo should not have been able to Patten it cause of such a long delay from when it was first used. Time of it just seems so dirty and is showing Nintendo in a bad light to me.
The friendly, smiling face of Myamoto, as he stands knee deep in scumbaggery.
Nintendo has been involved in so many lawsuits, eventually they have to lose, i hope this will be the time.
You want Nintendo to lose? Make a Huge Public Post calling out Nintendo and Calling for Everyone to Boycott all Nintendo Products.
Make them Hurt in their Wallets. This Message can also be for Every Other Company and Industry too.
This is why it's Morally okay to pirate anything nintendo
Fuck pirating
@@TheSpeedfoever fuck nintendo.
@@TheSpeedfoevernope there are a bunch of people pirating and selling there games rn who cares if there this greedy so will we
It is never ok to steal. Just because the higher ups of a company is garbage doesn't make actions that you do that negatively impact the actual workers.
People who talk about things like this as an excuse to be a thief are just using it to justify their deplorable activities. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.
why pirate shitty pokemon games when you could just play palworld?
Its gonna be so bad if another studio ever decides to make their own monster hunting / card game or franchise inho...
Okay what about ark? You can put your dinosaurs in balls can't you, pretty much. I remember they added that a while back.
Palworld is more similar to Ark than Pokémon...
The pokeball thing is funny, pretty sure square has a game where they capture monsters with cubes.
There are many games where they capture creatures with throwable traps. It's basically prior art at this point
Damn i have so many great memories of Nintendo going back since the mid 80’s but they are tough to like at times.
I hope this is the first L they get this is ridiculous. Secondly change the Balls to discs or a laser leash that reels them into a trap. God this is beyond petty and Nintendo is feeling the heat I bet.
Sony and Microsoft must have a huge interest in Pal World. I sincerely hope they help Pocket Pair fucking destroy Nintendo in the court.
The giant ego of Nintendo they think they own a game mechanic lmao
Interestingly the patents they say are infringed were not registered until months after Palworld was released , which should in itself be unlawful , on a game that the world knew about years ago
Fight to protect your property know matter what...
Nintendo had to pay for a patent used during the 3ds wiiu Era!
Why patent something if you're not going to protect it?
Remember, every dime Pocket Pair spends in court against Nintendo is less content for you and me, Nintendo is winning either way.
An open world server fill with up to a thousands pokemon trainers traveling and battle Pokémon’s together. We been waiting nintendo.
Nintendo lost many times when they tried to shut down game rentals in the 80s.
Where the hell was all this bluster when TemTem was coming up? What? TemTem wasn't successful enough for you to care? Is Game Freak crying about the possibility that they might have to innovate so Daddy Nintendo is sending their army of lawyers? 😂
thats exactly it, theres alot of mon catching games that have just never done well, palworld did and nintendo took the nuclear option.
Yes gamefreak, the golden poop child of nintendo
Yeah, that's pretty much it.
They would rather use money to bribe lawyers than make a genuinely good game utilizing the most successful and lucrative entertainment IP in history, lol. Absolutely lazy and deplorable company.
Read the diabolical history of Nintendo and realize how horrible these dudes are.
They won't lose. We shouldn't be allowing them to patent game mechanics. That's the real problem here.
Explain how they won't lose
@@zeng58 They have the patents, very good lawyers, and took the time to review everything before pursuing it. If they weren't certain they would win, they wouldn't have filed it.
I hope people start to boycott Nintendo. Bullies should not be rewarded.
Palworld just needs to change their monster capture device and make it so your character isnt throwing a ball.
There. You're welcome, pocketpair.
I'd like to think that would solve things but I believe that just opens the floodgates for them or someone else to patent *anything* retroactively to the effect of gutting any threat to their golden calf.
So no.
It's not a ball, it's a sphere, completely different. Even has pointy bits. 😛
The problem with this is this lawsuit isn't about that it's about gutting a potential big name game.
As of right now it has the signs of becoming a behemoth like Pokémon as it has multiple big name company partners is having a card game and anime in the works and the game is only getting better.
Nintendo see's this and wants to crush it now vs the future when it's too big for them to crush.
If Palworld gives in it sets a toxic permission system for this to happen again today it's palworld tomorrow it could be Monster hunter for its monster mounting mechanic(Pokémon also recently patented that too)
Palworld needs to fight this and fortunately they have 2 new behemoth partners with Sony and one of the big name anime companies in Japan and I think they know Palworld is going to be a behemoth and could very likely help them.
@@Lily-xl4hg Yeah but Pocket Pair is also backed by Microsoft, who if they feel the need to get involved, have lawyers that would cripple Nintendo.
@@megaman37456 Not only that, they're now backed by Sony as well. Sony partnered with them to get a multiplat deal, as well as an anime and merchandising line. Everyone thinks Nintendo has this lawsuit in the bag but if Sony and Microsoft get involved, then it's going to get bloody very quickly.
Im curious what this means for sony since they partnered with pocketpair to make palworld entertainment.
Nintendo is trying to crush Palworld before it gets more traction to compete with Pokémon.
@TheFirstRealChewy would Sony be able to back them up? or is palworld on its own now?
@@ivanklaric5341 that's what I'm curious about because together they made palworld entertainment. Which they either back pocketpair or back away from something they helped create being palworld entertainment.
@@ivanklaric5341don’t forget, Sony just lost 400M cause of concord. If they are gonna bet on Palworld and fight against Nintendo, they gonna need to believe Palworld is worth it. Worst case scenario, Nintendo would also lose another competitor in the console battle.
Destin you should have had a chat with someone with Patent law knowledge because I don't think you're knowledgeable enough like saying stuff like " no one can use this idea forever etc " man patents are not forever. Patents generally have a limited duration, and after that period, the invention enters the public domain, meaning anyone can use it without permission from the patent holder.
Stfu 20 years is too much is more than two generation it takes forever not to mention it was public domain at first you didn't made anything out of the thin air you probably got inspired by real life and implemented in game
@@Soroosh.S83cope and seethe
japan laws are different so you need one with japan patent law knowledge
Square Enix patented the leveling system, specifically to stop Patent Trolls from swooping it up. If they hadn't, Nintendo would be suing Pocket Pair for having leveling.
If Nintendo were smart and wanted to make some money they would have sent a Switch 2 devkit instead of a legal letter.
I am pretty sure Nintendo has loss a lawsuit they started they just don't lose often.
Given how most of the patents that Nintendo are (probably) sueing for were only APPLIED for AFTER Palworld’s release, Pocket pair has a decent defense that some of Nintendo’s claims may be illegitimate, unless they are spontaneously granted before any hearings start
Nintendo is so blinded by its own ego that it can’t see the obvious pr damage this lawsuit will do to them. There is absolutely zero scenario where they are the good guy in this situation. All these companies are so obsessed with business that they forgot what gets them money in the first place.
??? Nintendo has been like this for decades and it never affected them lmao the internet isn't the world just look at their sales
@@ausgod538 You can only con someone so long before they stop falling for your BS. It's not so easy to hide their BS these days like it was decades ago. Regardless of your opinion or mine, this is not going to go well for Nintendo regardless of whether they win or lose that is fact, there are people willing to stop buying their products over this and that is bad for business if you are a Business like they are. And like you said, the Internet isn't the world, there are dozens of millions of people that keep their opinions to themselves. There will be a time where this lawsuit comes back to bite them in the ass.
We should boycott Nintendo till they back off
Ps palworld is on the ps5 now
I also hope they get karma for everything SHITTY theyve done
Im a huge pokemon fan im going for team pal world. Ive been needing a good monster collector that you interact with mons. Pokemon feels not alive.
funny thing is i bought palworld the day before the lawsuit was announced.
私はPalworldの味方です。
日本の特許の問題点は、誰でも考えつくようなシステムが含まれている点とそれらが大量にあることです。
だから、面白いゲームを作ろうとすると必ず何かの特許に抵触することになります。
Sony and XBox are backing the developers of Palworld, so I doubt Nintendo's winning so easily. And, win or lose, this paints a VERY big target on Nintendo's back. some people are saying Bandai might be FIRST to try and sue them and steal some patents BACK.
Imagine if Rock Star said naw we did car jacking first in video games and it's patented so you can't do that. Or if nintendo said we did Karting first in a video game.
This lawsuit is so bad, I hope Nintendo did not add the patent for buying and selling in a shop.
Kinda reminds of the patent Namco filed back in the day so that only their games could include mini-games on the loading screens
This is just a rumor but apparently Nintendo file a pattern about monster catching using balls mechanic explicitly to sue Palworld. I really hope they lose in this case if this is true.
why would that kind of patent even be allowed in the first place? 20 years is ridiculous, how about like 2, maybe
i hopevpalworld win who patents a game mechanic like that? wtf seriously
A key part with the Shadow of Mordor Nemesis system is it was patented before the game came out I believe. Pokemon is trying to patent mechanics decades after they came out, and strangely depending on which patent is being sued over months after Palworld was released. Retroactively trying to sue for Patents over long existing mechanics seems wrong. But as the video mentioned, this is only in Japan right now and they heavily favor Nintendo. It would be like trying to get a ruling against Amazon in the US.
This just shouldn’t be a thing like couldn’t any billion dollar company just say I created this mechanic no one else is able to use it I think we should pirate all Nintendo games
Everyone saying this is dirty this shouldn’t be happening, but my question is
What’s Pokémon’s Nintendo’s damages?
Don’t get me wrong I love Pokémon we all do but it’s pretty much all the same thing but now if they can make a Pokémon for all platforms that could be a game changer but what is the damages.
They are gonna loose what I notice when a company gets bigger than them they tend to bite. This patent lawsuit is unprofessional and seriously stupid I really dislike Nintendo now
Playstation could literally win their fans back right now if they joined palworld and defended this, nintendo likes to pick on the smaller guys its about time somebody humbles them.
If that's the case Capcom wouldn't allow any other fighting game than their own. Also there were some that tried that shit and didn't work in the past. Nintendo DID lost minor cases and swept them under the rag, and more than likely Nintendo try to bleed them money before getting even bigger but Sony stepped in.
Nintendo also fked up with their attitude towards the consumers driving them to unsavoury tactics to play their games. They're pretty much digging their own grave little by little
Pokèmon has really gone too far with their actions especially with gimmicks like Mega Evolutions or Gigantamax.
I may like Pokèmon, but Pokèmon should be ashamed of themselves on bullying other monster franchises like Digimon, Monster Rancher, Yu-Gi-Oh, Neopets, Yo-Kai Watch, Palworld, Bakugan, Monster Hunter, TemTem, Monsuno, Moshi Monsters, or Chaotic as well as monopolizing the monster taming genre.
Ultra Seven and Norman Bridwell's How to care for your Monster revolutionized the monster taming genre. Without Ultra Seven and Norman Bridwell's How to care for your Monster, there would be no well-known monster franchises including Pokèmon.
If Pokèmon wins the lawsuit, it would be goodbye to various monster franchises like Digimon, Monster Rancher, Yu-Gi-Oh, Neopets, Yo-Kai Watch, Palworld, Bakugan, Monster Hunter, Monsuno, Moshi Monsters, or Chaotic as well as potential future monster franchises.
I hope Nintendo loses also, I mean digimon does it, and is multi plat. But they don't go after those games.
Nintendo and Pokémon need to step out from their little bubble of “nice, family friendly” games and develop games that can challenge AAA games globally. Imagine an actual Pokémon version of palworld, with big money behind it? Not a little child running around in shorts with a friendly rival doing lessons.
Why do that when they can still make big money with cheap, indie-level games on shitty hardware though.
The key is Japanese patent law it may be different to western countries law , the sad thing this is going to take years and a lot money and could even cost the profits made from palworld.
The Nemesis system being patented is stupid and shouldn't be allowed.
It's anti-consumer.
I haven't paid for a pokemon game in years. Emulation for life.