The gel blocks are the way to go! I’ve never been a big 40 fan, but don’t see why everyone is hating on 40 cal these days. This video shows the 40 cal is a serious contender for personal defense.
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it!! It was too much fun. I think we will be moving on from the jug tests lol. And I totally agree, they are both awesome calibers, I love em. Thanks again😁
Thank you very much I appreciate that!! I think so. I have a few more jug tests coming up this week, then I think im making the switch. It was really fun😁 Thanks again!!
Sir, the expansion of BOTH those bullets is AMAZING!! They flowered out BEAUTIFULLY! If either of those bullets hit a living target(2 or 4 legged), I'm sure the inside of such target would look devastated. Shheesh! 😲. Good job on the testing. Thanks fore sharing👍
@@nicholasroberts9618 I seen That but not surprised I had gotten some data from a friend on the 357 sig and how amazing it has been in real world shootings. You can bet your life on that cartridge
The Gen 5 Glock 22 .40 is so good at reducing recoil, it's pretty unbelievable. The ".40 torque" is gone. I don't know how Glock's engineers did it, but it's a game changer for those who shoot .40.
Glock finally copied M&P slide and locking block dementions. M&P 2.0 was built around 40sw. Glock tried to shove 40sw into a 9mm. platform; until the gen5 platform.... They increased their recoil guide length and slide mass as well. I know trying to get Glock fans to try something else is like pulling teeth, but I switched to S&W in 2017 ( polymer pistols at least) You are correct however; gen 5 40sw Glocks have improved greatly.
Thank you very much!! Yeah I like to change it up all the time, too many channels are to dedicated to 9mm and just 9mm. I like em all lol. Thanks again buddy!!
Those both performed exceptionally well. Powerful for caliber and dynamic on impact. Those expanded bullets are beautiful! Brother that 40 is so impressive. It is so big. A 90 caliber final bullet has to be very effective. The 357 Sig hit with plenty of authority and went plenty deep so it would be extremely effective. But I would go 40 based on this test. I sure appreciate the great tests. All the best. Salute.
I was very surprised and super excited to actually see the results and that the gel actually did what I was hoping it would do. I had way to much fun on this one. I can't believe how big that .40 got. I definitely wouldn't want that anywhere near my body 😂. I was not expecting that at all. They were both pretty spicy🌶 out of the short barrels though. Can't complain. I wouldn't hesitate too carry either. It was awesome to actually see what was going on in the gel compared to just a big explosion in water. Hoping too keep this going. Thanks as always my friend😁
This is a really good test.. this is my third comment but I'm that impressed. One suggestion, when you edit, take out a little of that long pause before the shot... Everything else is PERFECT... Remember to continue to use the sun or a light to back light the block when showing us the track... So many people don't and then you can't really see shit on the video. You did a great job here.. this is underrated
I love how you test all calibers and just don't focus on 9mm. I am a huge fan of .357SIG and .40, they rotate through my edc lineup. I like the gel along with the jugs. Just a thought but would you be able to attach a meat product to the front of a jug or gel to simulate the round going through tissue? I know Paul Harrell does the meat target but it would be great to see it replicated by another good reviewer, like yourself.
Thank you!! I try to change it up all the time. Too many channels are all about the 9 and only 9mm. And same here, I love em all its hard to pick just one lol. Of course I can start throwing that in every now and then to see what kind of results we get. I'm sure it would be fun. I was actually thinking of doing that just never pulled the trigger on it lol. Thank you very much for the kind words also, I appreciate the support. Thanks again buddy!!
I've always been a big .40 fan and feel the 155gr .40 is a good alternative to the 357 SIG/MAG 125gr. According to Federal the 155gr HST XM40HB is listed at 1140 fps ( a little slow) whereas the 125gr P357SHST1 is listed at 1360 fps, so 447 ft-lbs vs 513 ft-lbs, plus the 125gr has higher sectional density than the 155gr.
@@wacalla26What we are duplicating with 135/150grn. 40sw. loads is 357mag. terminal ballistics. The shorter bullets allow more powder in the case, just physics. We want 550 to 600 ft.lbs. energy from our carry guns. The lighter, faster loads have less muzzle flip as well.
I'm happy you moved up to gel. How you spoke doesn't seem like you're milking it for dramatic effect. That's a welcome change. I'm a fan of 40 and am slowly converting guns to 357 Sig.
Love both calibers. However, the .357 Sig is very hard to find in stores. Also , I got a conversion barrel for my P80 G23. The .357 Sig completely destroyed it. Pins popped out and the slide broke. Too much 🔥. But, I just ordered another slide rated for that pressure.
And recoil springs! Move up to an 18 pound or even 20. If you can swing it; get a DPM set up. I think they come with a couple spring weight options. You could also get off the Glock kick and buy a S&W M&P 2.0 in 40sw. They were built around the 40sw.( you know: 40-Smith and Wesson....huh!) I have KKM 357sig barrels for my 5"pro and 3.6" 2.0 pistols. However: The gen5 Glocks (22,23,27) have heavier slides, longer recoil guides and heavier spring weights ( also something about a reshaped recoil block.) They handle the hotter loads much better than the earlier Glocks.
Nice vid. Def love the 357 sig. I barrel swap the g27 to 357 sig since 357 sig cycles well out of glock 40sw clips. That way I can practice with .40 and edc 357. Trick I learned from Hickok45.
Amazing bro love the content that’s not all about 9mm theirs so many other better options out there love the .40 man good stuff you just gained yourself a subscriber 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪
I love 40s&w never understood the hate for it, its not 10mm but it still has a lot of power behind it and does some massive damage. Its so mich cheaper to practice with than 357 SiG too.
I've been a .40 fan for a long time. My Glock 22 is probably the most accurate gun I own, and I frequently carry my G27. I've thought about ordering a .357 Sig barrel for it, but the higher muzzle flash and cost of ammo sort of makes me wonder if it would be worth it...excellent video and comparisons brother!
@sparky_-mf2cs Some people can't shoot Glocks well... I own other nice pistols such as Smith & Wessons, Rugers, Sig Sauer, Colts, FNs, and others. I can shoot my Glocks more accurately than all of them. But I've practiced and trained with Glocks for many, many years. I don't own any "target pistols," but out of all of my defensive handguns, I can shoot extremely well with my Glocks. Not everyone can shoot them well, especially in the big boy calibers...😉
Look how much larger that 40 slug is. I love 357 sig but for a handgun having a large diameter projectile is key. The permanent cavity on the dig is larger in the first 1/3 but tapers off quick on the back end where as the 40 has a huge wound track 2/3 of the entire track. Way higher chance of hitting more vital internals with a wider bullet. The sig does goes further but any normal situation both rounds will be punching through a normal human. If body armor is involved neither are going to punch through. .45 just doesn’t have the capacity to make it a better option than either of these IMO. 9mm has a couple more round capacity than these typically but the numbers from the Sig and size of the 40 just over take 9mm. 10mm is the best but having a full size G20 to lug around isn’t ideal
Well done my friend, well done! So long as you are willing to invest the time, energy and resources to use gel I favor gel tests. I would think it will generate more views and subscriptions for the channel. Don't sell the jug test short. But the gel does provide more definite and consistent data. You gel looks excellent. It is obvious you payed attention detail and we're diligent to get a clear block or you lucked out...lol. Knox blocks are finicky. I for one am impressed. Thanks
Thank you very much buddy!! I always look forward too your comments!! It's definitely a lil more setup and time consuming but I think it is totally worth it. I had a blast shooting and making it compared to the jugs. Like u said the jugs are great but the gel is a lot more telling. Also thank u for the clear gel complement, I have a few tricks to get it a lil more clear and clean looking besides triple checking the measurements😁. I used to make smaller batches when my channel was actually a airgun channel but never that big of a block. So it was definitely different. I plan on switching over to just the gel. Just gonna take some time to get everything right and a lil bit of a learning experience. I really appreciate the kind words as always and appreciate the feedback. Thank you very much my friend!! Plenty more to come😁👍
.40 is more lethal. Better odds of killing the individual shot. People bleed from the circumferential wall of tissue cut or crushed by the projectile. Larger diameter projectiles, expanding projectiles, more projectiles=more lethality due to blood loss. Bigger temporary stretch cavities are generated by higher ft/lbs of energy. 'Stopping power'. 500+ ft/lbs of energy violently displaces tissue, which violently displaces fluid. Shoves it up the neck with too much force. Hits the brain with too much force. Microscopic hemorrhaging occurs. Brain sustains mechanical damage. That's the actual wounding mechanism that drops people with a single chest hit. Get Underwood's 125 grain load, or maybe their 68 grain load in 357 SIG. Get an extended barrel. Get a weapon-mounted laser because 90% odds to hit is way better than the 22% odds to hit that law enforcement gets on average. Streamlight TLR-8 is recommended. You can shoot someone again, you know, but you want to shoot someone once to drop them. You might be defending someone that you care about instead of yourself. That's the real reason that I strongly advocate for the choices that I do. #Ihaveahighschooleducation 💀♠️🎯
Ur channel was good, but it just got a lot better! U should continue using this gel becuz I think it better represents the energy dump. Maybe throwing in a tape measure next time would be nice so people can more accurately measure the width and length of the wound cavity. Awesome video man!
Thank you very much!! I will absolutely do that next time. I kinda went into it blind and didn't really know what I was doin lol. I think we can hopefully get it going right and have all the right stuff next time. Maybe make it easier for u guys to follow with measurements of everything. Thank you for the feedback. Always appreciated!! Thanks again!!
Hard to say which of these would be a "one and done" with a good hit, probably either. I am satisfied you wouldn't have to use half a mag full of ammo like the police do with 9mm. Please continue with the real ballistic gel.
You do nice comparisons. I think people get too wrapped up in the visual of the temp stretch cavity though. People aren't jello and what you see with a temp cavity doesn't happen in people. We stretch and rebaound. Jello doesn't rebound. But, great for comparing rounds if you focus on expanded diameter and penetration. I'm not too familiar with your channel. Do you use clear ballistics gel or ordnance gel? I've seen tests that show clear ballistics gel will give up to 35% more penetration than FBI style ordnance gel.
Thank you very much I appreciate that!! I use ordnance gel. Not a fan of the clear ballistics. This was my first attempt at using gel so was still a lil new and unaware of what to expect. I have a ton of tests up now with a variety of calibers and barrel lengths. I appreciate u checkin this one out. Thanks again!!
Its a great caliber, but also less available ammo, not as many choices of ammo, twice as expensive, bigger muzzle flash, and over penetrates in most situations.
Except over penetration can cause problems too 40s&w ammo is still cheaper and easier to get than 357sig and online I can get 40s&w anywhere from 17.99-47.00 for 50 round boxes depending on the type and brand 357sig i see 31.99-79.99 for 50 rounds
@hopebrowning6300,,, a 125gr 3,55 bullet has more S.D then a 155gr 4,01 bullet and it will out penetrate it muscle and bone , just do some research and u will find out,
Badass. .357 sig is my favorite non-9mm caliber. It seems up to individual perception but I find recoil to be better than 40sw. Finding the ammo has been an absolute pain but I finally got some boxes a few weeks back, can't wait for my weather to improve for a range day.
@@samzach2057 Yeah, poor wording, when I said non-9mm caliber, I meant non-9mm parabellum. There's no problem that a can't be solved by putting more powder behind a .355 projectile.
@@samzach2057 357 SIG is actually necked down 10 mm cartridge With a slightly bigger bullet then 9mm. 9.01 mm (0.3547 inch) for 9 mm And 9.02 mm (0.3551 inch) for .357 SIG.
155gr 40 generally is not enough foreven minimum penetration but hst makes it a viable load! only reason for 357sig is even better penetration plus energy/expansion dependent on load tho since only certain 125gr penetrate as good as 9mm 147. The 147gr 357sig load id say is equal to any of the best 165/180 40s and are go to for concealed. only stepping up to 10mm do you have a better option if you can conceal a 10mm!
Gel is best in my opinion, nice video thanks...these rounds are impressive, but I will stick with the 9mm for two legged threats: better control, more rounds on target accuracy, and all the other reasons the FBI and Law Enforcement are switching/switched to it. In a perfect world when you can get proper grip, stance, aim, trigger control ect... these super rounds look good, but in high stress seek cover, return fire, one handed shooting situations and manipulations, where rounds on target, and shot placement and muscle memory really matter, it's 9mm all day for me, and my preferred carry is G17, 19 , or M&P 2.0 4.25 in pistol, with premium ammo. I subscribed, good luck with your channel from a fellow Arizonian.
Thank you very much!! And yes absolutely, it definitely has more than a lot of other calibers, especially in indoor ranges u can really tell a difference. I always have ppl coming up to me from other lanes asking what the heck I'm shooting lol and man that's loud😂😂
Love your lighting angles. You gel looks good as well. Why do you have the sense to flip your blocks? Most gun tubers fail to do this. Please don't use the clear gel; it does not give the same results. Hey! Just noticed your AK47 switchblade ( the paint on mine has been thoroughly worn, but I did use it at work for 4 years)
.357 sig all the way. It’s essentially a REALLY hot 9mm, specifically designed for penetration. 45acp for regular defense, and the sig if you need to shoot flat at 100+ yards or shoot through barriers. I would even carry it for black bear defense (with good non hollow point rounds). It will penetrate just fine especially as defensive/last resort distances of 20 ft less. 44 mag would be the defensive back up for grizzly however.
you really only get the effect of either out of a full sized handgun. a full size 357 is screaming at the mid 1500's range. The 40 only really shines at 100 yards and needs the extra barrel
That side by side still shot at the end I imagine is paused at the largest expansion moment? Both awesome but that 357 looks like it would put you on your ass a bit more than the 40.
Yessir it sure is. Best that I can get at least on my phone. 😂 I absolutely agree it was a nasty looking still. Would not want to be on the receiving end of that lol😬
.357 Sig is my go two between the two (I am a huge fan of the 10mm though), but 40 S&W is no slouch! Would not want any smoke from either cartridge! Thanks for the video!
Great video; its nice to see where it (the gel) all started.
The gel blocks are the way to go! I’ve never been a big 40 fan, but don’t see why everyone is hating on 40 cal these days. This video shows the 40 cal is a serious contender for personal defense.
Absolutely is. Just bought 50 180gr HSTs for my Glock 22 today.
HST'S are fantastic ammo!
@@timtorkelson7201 The best. Them and Speer Gold dots.
@@GETOFFMYPORCHYOUFUCKINGTOMATO 165 grain in .40 is the best imo. You get better speed 165 grain is heavy enough.
@@Meh-hr7gqI don’t think that should be a problem against a human that is
Excellent video! That gel worked amazing! I love the 357sig and 40s&w I hope they make a come back.
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it!! It was too much fun. I think we will be moving on from the jug tests lol. And I totally agree, they are both awesome calibers, I love em. Thanks again😁
that's why i love the .40 s&w, especially at 155gr
Oh yeah!! It did really good, expanded huge.
357sig amazing 👏
Enjoyed this test. I like any test that shows how good a caliber the 357 Sig is and this gel test shows it clearly.
Thank you very much!! I'm glad u enjoyed it. Definitely more to come😁👍
Congrats on your first gel test! Hope to see a new trend.
Thank you very much I appreciate that!! I think so. I have a few more jug tests coming up this week, then I think im making the switch. It was really fun😁 Thanks again!!
Sir, the expansion of BOTH those bullets is AMAZING!! They flowered out BEAUTIFULLY! If either of those bullets hit a living target(2 or 4 legged), I'm sure the inside of such target would look devastated. Shheesh! 😲. Good job on the testing. Thanks fore sharing👍
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out. I absolutely agree definitely spicy🌶. Thanks again!!
357 sig has an incredible street record of straight stopping dudes fast!!!
I believe it. It's one nasty round for sure.
@@nicholasroberts9618 I seen That but not surprised I had gotten some data from a friend on the 357 sig and how amazing it has been in real world shootings. You can bet your life on that cartridge
The Gen 5 Glock 22 .40 is so good at reducing recoil, it's pretty unbelievable. The ".40 torque" is gone. I don't know how Glock's engineers did it, but it's a game changer for those who shoot .40.
Absolutely and very accurate as well
Makes the 27 feel like torture.
@@jaycee30865 My g27 doesn't bother me, I feel like my g35 is way fkin snappier. Like WAY snappier lol
Glock finally copied M&P slide and locking block dementions.
M&P 2.0 was built around 40sw. Glock tried to shove 40sw into a 9mm. platform; until the gen5 platform....
They increased their recoil guide length and slide mass as well. I know trying to get Glock fans to try something else is like pulling teeth, but I switched to S&W in 2017 ( polymer pistols at least)
You are correct however; gen 5 40sw Glocks have improved greatly.
Excellent side by side comparison. Thank you.
Another great test. Glad you're testing with gel. The backlighting was awesome for seeing the performance. Both round were exceptional.
Thank you very much!! It was definitely a learning experience but super fun too do. More to come for sure. Thanks again buddy!!
Yes the backlight from the sun was great
Thank you😁
I really like the new setup. 👍👍👍👍👍 The backlit yellow gel really made the wound track obvious.
Thank you very much buddy I appreciate it!! I was hoping it would work out ok with the sun like that😁
That 40 is gigantic
Always good to see a .40 or a .357 sig tested! Thx and keep it up!
Sun angle was perfect. Great test!
Thank you buddy, appreciate it!!
I love how your channel test other rounds other than 9mm. Great job.
Same! Love all the 40sw tests he does.
Thank you very much!! Yeah I like to change it up all the time, too many channels are to dedicated to 9mm and just 9mm. I like em all lol. Thanks again buddy!!
@@frawdulent Thank you I appreciate that!! I love the .40 and all the other calibers. Hard to pick just one, there all too much fun lol.
Thanks for your post. I'm most impressed by the 40 S&W expansion. My local police department carries the 40 S&W in Glock 22 handguns.
Thank you I appreciate u checkin it out!! Plenty to come😁
Those both performed exceptionally well. Powerful for caliber and dynamic on impact. Those expanded bullets are beautiful! Brother that 40 is so impressive. It is so big. A 90 caliber final bullet has to be very effective. The 357 Sig hit with plenty of authority and went plenty deep so it would be extremely effective. But I would go 40 based on this test. I sure appreciate the great tests. All the best. Salute.
I was very surprised and super excited to actually see the results and that the gel actually did what I was hoping it would do. I had way to much fun on this one. I can't believe how big that .40 got. I definitely wouldn't want that anywhere near my body 😂. I was not expecting that at all. They were both pretty spicy🌶 out of the short barrels though. Can't complain. I wouldn't hesitate too carry either. It was awesome to actually see what was going on in the gel compared to just a big explosion in water. Hoping too keep this going. Thanks as always my friend😁
This is a really good test.. this is my third comment but I'm that impressed.
One suggestion, when you edit, take out a little of that long pause before the shot... Everything else is PERFECT...
Remember to continue to use the sun or a light to back light the block when showing us the track... So many people don't and then you can't really see shit on the video.
You did a great job here.. this is underrated
Hard choice. I like both rounds. But if I had to pick one for 2 legged defense, I would go with the 40 with that ammo that was tested. Good Video.
I love 40sw! I’ve even had awesome luck with Winchester white box in 40sw. All around just awesome round
Yessir, they always perform well. Thanks for checkin it out!!
You got the expected results, IMO. If the 357 Sig had penetrated less I would have been disappointed. Excellent, thanks!
Thank you!! I appreciate u checkin it out😁👍
I love how you test all calibers and just don't focus on 9mm. I am a huge fan of .357SIG and .40, they rotate through my edc lineup. I like the gel along with the jugs. Just a thought but would you be able to attach a meat product to the front of a jug or gel to simulate the round going through tissue? I know Paul Harrell does the meat target but it would be great to see it replicated by another good reviewer, like yourself.
Thank you!! I try to change it up all the time. Too many channels are all about the 9 and only 9mm. And same here, I love em all its hard to pick just one lol. Of course I can start throwing that in every now and then to see what kind of results we get. I'm sure it would be fun. I was actually thinking of doing that just never pulled the trigger on it lol. Thank you very much for the kind words also, I appreciate the support. Thanks again buddy!!
Just subbed cuz of this. Cool channel!
@@JimD410 Thank you very much!! I appreciate the support!!
I've always been a big .40 fan and feel the 155gr .40 is a good alternative to the 357 SIG/MAG 125gr. According to Federal the 155gr HST XM40HB is listed at 1140 fps ( a little slow) whereas the 125gr P357SHST1 is listed at 1360 fps, so 447 ft-lbs vs 513 ft-lbs, plus the 125gr has higher sectional density than the 155gr.
I think the .357 sign is more likely to over penetrate compared to the .40 s&w.
Thank you! I love the 40 s&w round. Contrary to popular opinion, I appreciate the snap.
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
This is a great comparison.. so many people use 180 grain in the 40. But in my opinion, the 40s sweet spot is 135 -165
Get the 180gr underwood ammo.... They load them up to the max !
Totally agree. I love my 40s in 155-165 grain
@@wacalla26What we are duplicating with 135/150grn. 40sw. loads is 357mag. terminal ballistics. The shorter bullets allow more powder in the case, just physics.
We want 550 to 600 ft.lbs. energy from our carry guns. The lighter, faster loads have less muzzle flip as well.
@@almaadams3631 Dude, I have been saying this for years, .40's sweet spot is that 550-600 fpe range. Stellar performance in that range.
I'm happy you moved up to gel. How you spoke doesn't seem like you're milking it for dramatic effect. That's a welcome change. I'm a fan of 40 and am slowly converting guns to 357 Sig.
@@nicholasroberts9618 , I carry the Underwood loaded Gold Dot ammo.
40 is the correct answer vs human sized questions
Love both calibers. However, the .357 Sig is very hard to find in stores. Also , I got a conversion barrel for my P80 G23. The .357 Sig completely destroyed it. Pins popped out and the slide broke. Too much 🔥. But, I just ordered another slide rated for that pressure.
And recoil springs! Move up to an 18 pound or even 20. If you can swing it; get a DPM set up. I think they come with a couple spring weight options.
You could also get off the Glock kick and buy a S&W M&P 2.0 in 40sw. They were built around the 40sw.( you know: 40-Smith and Wesson....huh!)
I have KKM 357sig barrels for my 5"pro and 3.6" 2.0
pistols.
However: The gen5 Glocks (22,23,27) have heavier slides, longer recoil guides and heavier spring weights ( also something about a reshaped recoil block.) They handle the hotter loads much better than the earlier Glocks.
@@almaadams3631 Thank you, you make great points.
Just the video I needed to see 😊
Thank you!! Appreciate u checkin it out!!
Nice vid. Def love the 357 sig. I barrel swap the g27 to 357 sig since 357 sig cycles well out of glock 40sw clips. That way I can practice with .40 and edc 357. Trick I learned from Hickok45.
Amazing bro love the content that’s not all about 9mm theirs so many other better options out there love the .40 man good stuff you just gained yourself a subscriber 🇺🇸🇺🇸💪
Thank you very much!! I appreciate the support and sub. Plenty more to come😁. Thanks again buddy!!
Omg the wait time on that first shot was suspenseful lol 😂
I love 40s&w never understood the hate for it, its not 10mm but it still has a lot of power behind it and does some massive damage. Its so mich cheaper to practice with than 357 SiG too.
Your block worked well, and both rounds were awesome.
Thank you very much!! I think this will be the new way of testing from now on. I agree they did great and it was a lot of fun making😁
PLEASE keep up with the GEL TESTING ... Great Video & Information ... Thank you .
Absolutely.. I have to much fun making them. Definitely plenty coming. Thank you!!
Yay for my 2 fav calibers
Same, wait... can't forget 10mm lol
Lovin it man thank you gel test is sweet
Thank you buddy I appreciate it!! I'll keep em comin😁👍
I've been a .40 fan for a long time. My Glock 22 is probably the most accurate gun I own, and I frequently carry my G27. I've thought about ordering a .357 Sig barrel for it, but the higher muzzle flash and cost of ammo sort of makes me wonder if it would be worth it...excellent video and comparisons brother!
why order another barrel? The 357 can be chambered in a 40 cal
@@mb37206just no.....move along. Don't give horrible information.
@mb37206 I'll do that if you will volunteer to shoot it while I video the event from a safe distance.
A glock is your most accurate gun you own? 😂😂😂
@sparky_-mf2cs Some people can't shoot Glocks well... I own other nice pistols such as Smith & Wessons, Rugers, Sig Sauer, Colts, FNs, and others. I can shoot my Glocks more accurately than all of them. But I've practiced and trained with Glocks for many, many years. I don't own any "target pistols," but out of all of my defensive handguns, I can shoot extremely well with my Glocks. Not everyone can shoot them well, especially in the big boy calibers...😉
Look how much larger that 40 slug is. I love 357 sig but for a handgun having a large diameter projectile is key. The permanent cavity on the dig is larger in the first 1/3 but tapers off quick on the back end where as the 40 has a huge wound track 2/3 of the entire track. Way higher chance of hitting more vital internals with a wider bullet. The sig does goes further but any normal situation both rounds will be punching through a normal human. If body armor is involved neither are going to punch through. .45 just doesn’t have the capacity to make it a better option than either of these IMO. 9mm has a couple more round capacity than these typically but the numbers from the Sig and size of the 40 just over take 9mm. 10mm is the best but having a full size G20 to lug around isn’t ideal
Great damage test!
Awesome test! Thank you for a job well done.
Thank you very much!! Was too much fun😁. I think we're gonna have to stick to it now. Thanks again buddy!!
Just buy the 40 cal. and Sig 357 barrel for $100 dollars and your can shoot both with the same gun. This is kind of a no brainer.
Well done my friend, well done! So long as you are willing to invest the time, energy and resources to use gel I favor gel tests. I would think it will generate more views and subscriptions for the channel. Don't sell the jug test short. But the gel does provide more definite and consistent data. You gel looks excellent. It is obvious you payed attention detail and we're diligent to get a clear block or you lucked out...lol. Knox blocks are finicky.
I for one am impressed. Thanks
Thank you very much buddy!! I always look forward too your comments!! It's definitely a lil more setup and time consuming but I think it is totally worth it. I had a blast shooting and making it compared to the jugs. Like u said the jugs are great but the gel is a lot more telling. Also thank u for the clear gel complement, I have a few tricks to get it a lil more clear and clean looking besides triple checking the measurements😁. I used to make smaller batches when my channel was actually a airgun channel but never that big of a block. So it was definitely different. I plan on switching over to just the gel. Just gonna take some time to get everything right and a lil bit of a learning experience. I really appreciate the kind words as always and appreciate the feedback. Thank you very much my friend!! Plenty more to come😁👍
Great video both caliber's are great.
Thank you!! I agree, both are awesome. Thanks for checkin it out!!
Why is your 357sig minimal damage, while others got 2 1/2 to 3 1/2” wide damage track???
I’d love to see what those 68gr Xtreme Defenders look like in the gel. Great video.
Thank you very much!! Me too, that would be interesting🤔. Now I'm gonna have to get some so we can see lol. Thanks again!!
You test for the best one is same grain and full metal jacket flat or and round tips
The ol’ water jug test is cool but ballistics gel? Awesome! Nice job brother!
Thanks bro!! Appreciate ya!! Guess imma have to stick to it now lol. Was a lot of fun.
I like the jug test more😢
Nice Test, Subbed.
Thank you!! I appreciate the support!!
.40 is more lethal.
Better odds of killing the individual shot.
People bleed from the circumferential wall of tissue cut or crushed by the projectile.
Larger diameter projectiles, expanding projectiles, more projectiles=more lethality due to blood loss.
Bigger temporary stretch cavities are generated by higher ft/lbs of energy.
'Stopping power'.
500+ ft/lbs of energy violently displaces tissue, which violently displaces fluid.
Shoves it up the neck with too much force.
Hits the brain with too much force.
Microscopic hemorrhaging occurs.
Brain sustains mechanical damage.
That's the actual wounding mechanism that drops people with a single chest hit.
Get Underwood's 125 grain load, or maybe their 68 grain load in 357 SIG.
Get an extended barrel.
Get a weapon-mounted laser because 90% odds to hit is way better than the 22% odds to hit that law enforcement gets on average.
Streamlight TLR-8 is recommended.
You can shoot someone again, you know, but you want to shoot someone once to drop them.
You might be defending someone that you care about instead of yourself.
That's the real reason that I strongly advocate for the choices that I do.
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Ur channel was good, but it just got a lot better! U should continue using this gel becuz I think it better represents the energy dump. Maybe throwing in a tape measure next time would be nice so people can more accurately measure the width and length of the wound cavity. Awesome video man!
Thank you very much!! I will absolutely do that next time. I kinda went into it blind and didn't really know what I was doin lol. I think we can hopefully get it going right and have all the right stuff next time. Maybe make it easier for u guys to follow with measurements of everything. Thank you for the feedback. Always appreciated!! Thanks again!!
@@AzAirgunner. BTW, becuz of ur channel i went out and bought a glock 27 gen 3 as seen in the profile picture. Lol. 40 sw is awesome!
@@RoadToGM26 Nice!! Very cool. Good choice. Glad I could help, u will love it!!
Great video! Love the 357 sig! Do you plan to make a video on how you made the gel block?
Thank you!! Yes, I actually have a video coming Sunday on how I make it😁. Thank you for checkin this one out!!
Could you please pass along the gel temperature? Thanks...
39⁰F
Good test
Thank you!!
Recoil compare?
Hard to say which of these would be a "one and done" with a good hit, probably either. I am satisfied you wouldn't have to use half a mag full of ammo like the police do with 9mm. Please continue with the real ballistic gel.
What ammo and guns did you use?
Great rounds.
.thanks
Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
Good test!
Thank you very much!!
You do nice comparisons. I think people get too wrapped up in the visual of the temp stretch cavity though. People aren't jello and what you see with a temp cavity doesn't happen in people. We stretch and rebaound. Jello doesn't rebound. But, great for comparing rounds if you focus on expanded diameter and penetration.
I'm not too familiar with your channel. Do you use clear ballistics gel or ordnance gel? I've seen tests that show clear ballistics gel will give up to 35% more penetration than FBI style ordnance gel.
Thank you very much I appreciate that!! I use ordnance gel. Not a fan of the clear ballistics. This was my first attempt at using gel so was still a lil new and unaware of what to expect. I have a ton of tests up now with a variety of calibers and barrel lengths. I appreciate u checkin this one out. Thanks again!!
Next time you do your gel, throw some hydrogen peroxide in the mix. It helps clear it up but reacts with the metals
🤘😁🤘 Great video tho bro.
Once again 357sig outperforming 40sw 🤷♂️ in energy...and penetration...357....when you want massive internal trauma and a exit wound!!!! 🏆 357!!!!
Yessir, it did great!! Always does lol 💪😁
Its a great caliber, but also less available ammo, not as many choices of ammo, twice as expensive, bigger muzzle flash, and over penetrates in most situations.
Great vid
Thank you!!
Gosh dang, so many firearms and so many calibers....... and so little money.
Nice job!
Thank you!!
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Both done great but I believe I’d go with the 357 sig, penetration is the most important thing to me
Yeah I was happy with how they did, was very suprising and fun to see. I do love the 357 sig though. Can't beat it😁
Except over penetration can cause problems too 40s&w ammo is still cheaper and easier to get than 357sig and online I can get 40s&w anywhere from 17.99-47.00 for 50 round boxes depending on the type and brand 357sig i see 31.99-79.99 for 50 rounds
@hopebrowning6300 now how do u no have you done testing on a real person to see,
@hopebrowning6300,,, a 125gr 3,55 bullet has more S.D then a 155gr 4,01 bullet and it will out penetrate it muscle and bone , just do some research and u will find out,
Can’t go wrong with either of these calibers. Bigger is better, but more penetration is probably more important.
If you want more penetration you need a rifle bro handguns aren’t meant to over penetrate
Only see one, which is it???
Badass. .357 sig is my favorite non-9mm caliber. It seems up to individual perception but I find recoil to be better than 40sw. Finding the ammo has been an absolute pain but I finally got some boxes a few weeks back, can't wait for my weather to improve for a range day.
357 Sig is actually 9mm.
@@samzach2057 Yeah, poor wording, when I said non-9mm caliber, I meant non-9mm parabellum. There's no problem that a can't be solved by putting more powder behind a .355 projectile.
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357 SIG is actually necked down 10 mm cartridge
With a slightly bigger bullet then 9mm.
9.01 mm (0.3547 inch)
for 9 mm
And 9.02 mm (0.3551 inch) for .357 SIG.
@@PipBoy3kTry some 135grn. 40sw. from Underwood, Corbon, or Double Tap. ( Colt as well)
You will not be disappointed and the prices aren't to bad.
155gr 40 generally is not enough foreven minimum penetration but hst makes it a viable load! only reason for 357sig is even better penetration plus energy/expansion dependent on load tho since only certain 125gr penetrate as good as 9mm 147. The 147gr 357sig load id say is equal to any of the best 165/180 40s and are go to for concealed. only stepping up to 10mm do you have a better option if you can conceal a 10mm!
Awesome grain for both of them too.
I agree, the 155's are always spicy🌶 even out of the short barrel. Thanks for checkin it out!!
Gel is best in my opinion, nice video thanks...these rounds are impressive, but I will stick with the 9mm for two legged threats: better control, more rounds on target accuracy, and all the other reasons the FBI and Law Enforcement are switching/switched to it. In a perfect world when you can get proper grip, stance, aim, trigger control ect... these super rounds look good, but in high stress seek cover, return fire, one handed shooting situations and manipulations, where rounds on target, and shot placement and muscle memory really matter, it's 9mm all day for me, and my preferred carry is G17, 19 , or M&P 2.0 4.25 in pistol, with premium ammo. I subscribed, good luck with your channel from a fellow Arizonian.
40SW great damage!
Great test! Many say 357 sig has more blast than other calibers, have you noticed this through all your testing?
Thank you very much!! And yes absolutely, it definitely has more than a lot of other calibers, especially in indoor ranges u can really tell a difference. I always have ppl coming up to me from other lanes asking what the heck I'm shooting lol and man that's loud😂😂
@@AzAirgunner. Good info especially in indoor self defense situations. Thanks again for all you do it is greatly appreciated 👏
@@mmz77 Thank you, appreciate the support buddy!!
That's whats good about 357 sig ....If you don't hit them, you'll scare the crap out of them !
I gotta get a 40 to 357 sig conversion barrel for my Glock 22.
You will be happy you do. It's totally worth it.
@timf2279 Yeah from what I understand 357 sig has some knockdown power.
The .357 sig is a snappy round.
Love that test
Thank you!!
Love your lighting angles. You gel looks good as well.
Why do you have the sense to flip your blocks? Most gun tubers fail to do this.
Please don't use the clear gel; it does not give the same results.
Hey! Just noticed your AK47 switchblade
( the paint on mine has been thoroughly worn, but I did use it at work for 4 years)
Thank you very much I appreciate it!! I won't, I like the organic gel way more. Shows a more realistic path. Thanks again😁👍
Gel is excellent.
Thank you very much!!
.357 sig all the way. It’s essentially a REALLY hot 9mm, specifically designed for penetration. 45acp for regular defense, and the sig if you need to shoot flat at 100+ yards or shoot through barriers. I would even carry it for black bear defense (with good non hollow point rounds). It will penetrate just fine especially as defensive/last resort distances of 20 ft less. 44 mag would be the defensive back up for grizzly however.
you really only get the effect of either out of a full sized handgun. a full size 357 is screaming at the mid 1500's range. The 40 only really shines at 100 yards and needs the extra barrel
That side by side still shot at the end I imagine is paused at the largest expansion moment? Both awesome but that 357 looks like it would put you on your ass a bit more than the 40.
Yessir it sure is. Best that I can get at least on my phone. 😂 I absolutely agree it was a nasty looking still. Would not want to be on the receiving end of that lol😬
@@AzAirgunner.
I can’t imagine anybody that would want to be on the other end of that. Awesome Upload.
@@TransformersHoarder Thank you very much!! Definitely more to come😁
I have both and either one will do the job but you're right about the sig, it a man stopper for sure.
Awesome videos
Thank you I appreciate it!!
SWEET!
Thanks bro!!
I watch your content. You keep using a T shirt. I believe the standard is actually cotton denim.
nice expansion
I thought they did pretty good too. Was a fun one for sure😁
Penetration without damage is pointless.
Unless it’s a bear
.357 Sig is my go two between the two (I am a huge fan of the 10mm though), but 40 S&W is no slouch! Would not want any smoke from either cartridge! Thanks for the video!
Yeah I hear ya, I love em all. Thank you, I appreciate u checkin it out!!
357 sig is far better in my experience. Especially underwood. Extreme series.
Only prob with 357 is over penetration as with 10 mill both excellent rounds .
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.357 Sig!
460 ft lbs vs 490 ft lbs 40 cal basic kept pace. Bottle neck sort of $$$% price fancy!
My 357 Sig is 600 ft/lbs.
My 10mm is 800ft/lbs
No No No! Why not use the correct GUNS for your test? Use a S&W M&P 40, and a Sig 229 in 357sig. THEN I'll believe your testing.
That’s why I have a Glock 23 I could use .40 and 357 and 9 mm