The Lovely Bones | Book vs. Movie
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I loved how we didn’t actually see the rape/murder- it felt like the movie was putting more emphasis on what the tragedy afterwards, and made when she saw all the dead girls more impactful. I also really liked how surreal it got- I love weird tone shifts like that tho, makes the more intense parts even scarier for me
Another reason they didn't show it The actress was a Minor
The book was brutal. I was mad when the movie was PG-13 (16 when this came out) but now I’m glad it was tamed down. I hope to see a reboot one day that is more indie and rated r. Great storytelling.
Brutality is spending 16 years in prison behind a lie.
I thought it was better we didn’t get to see it in the movie- you had to fill in the gaps yourself. And when we did get to see the dead bodies of all the girls he killed it had that much more of impact
@@forensicaccountant259That literally has nothing to do with this book. If you want to talk crap go to a video about the book lucky.
@@allahnah Z-z-z-z.
definitely a movie a that girls of all ages should watch so i don’t think i would’ve liked it if it was an adult movie
Harvey killed girls. I feel like in situations where young girls are taken advantage of or hurt I feel like calling them young women does the opposite of infantilizing them? You know?
Agreed 100%.
Especially since some of them looked like they were like 7-year-old 8o
@@maxens_is_here Yes, but apparently one of them was an adult.
When Harvey tells the guy to let him push the safe in the sink hole. was so good just showing he was still getting his satisfaction. That is was selfish and he couldn't allow that guy to help him to that when pushing the safe in. She was his and would always be his story. sick i know but it has a certain dark beauty to it.
The book and movie are both great! I saw the movie first and I'm not a guy that gets emotional easily during movies and I remember being teary eyed a few times throughout. A few years later I got the book and when I read it, I was actually crying in parts. When I was reading the book I was finally a parent myself to a daughter so I could sympathize even more with Susie's dad. I haven't watched it in many years but I imagine the movie would tear my heart out now because my awesome daughter is close to Susie's age in the movie. Stanley Tucci did an amazing job playing a detestable, disgusting creep.
Wow I've only seen the movie and I always wondered why the mother just up and left the family to do her eat, pray, love moment. But in the book she was having an affair with the detective which makes more sense as to why the break down in her marriage was happening.
I love both the book and the movie. As usual, the book version is a bit better since concentrating all the events in 2 hours may be quite difficult. One thing that I didn’t really like, but that I get why they did it, was the murder scene. I didn’t want to see the rape and the dismembering, obviously, but the fact that they let her escape from the chamber making her unaware of being dead doesn’t make sense. What’s the point (except for the suspence and the tragedy) of letting her spirit escape before being killed? I think that her soul would have escaped after being killed, not before. I mean, in the book Susie describes the fight and the rape and you read about her emotions, so making her ghost unaware of being dead is unfair to me. The scene when she attempts to leave and then it shows the cornfield is good, because you imagine what is going on underground (and to me is traumatizing enough) but making her go out in the next scene ruins everything. I would have put the scene where she runs past Ruth next, so you still have the doubt that she escaped, but at least she looks aware of being dead. Making her understand that she is dead later on doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t know maybe I’m wrong 😂
Basically, to sum it up, the novel is an unsolved case on its own and we just saw in a third point of view on what really happened..😶 its kinda sad but that's what make it speacial
I can see what you are saying! I am also glad they did not actually show the murder in the movie, I feel like that would have made me potentially turn it off, but I also was not the biggest fan of the way it was portrayed in the movie. She is a strong character in both the book and the movie but I would have maybe liked to also have seen something a little more from what they had to leave out
One of my favorite novels! I read it years ago. I loved how much attention to detail and different aspects were included in the book. I loved the film as well but did not like how much was left out. I feel as though the film did not tie up everything such as the book did. All in all would recommend both!!
The part in the movie I wish they would've included was that memorial service they had especially for the part with Lindsey asking her grandma who Mr. Harvey was then fainting.
Beautiful story, but let's not forget that the author Alice Sebold wrongly convicted a man of rape. He lost 16 years of his life because of her. The fact that a producer can find holes in her story and not the actual people that investigated the case is terrible and terrifying.
Let’s also not forget that she GENUINELY thought it was him. She didn’t do it on purpose and he literally doesn’t blame her. He forgave her because he understood that it literally wasn’t her fault. She and he are not to blame only the detectives and investigators and judges are because they failed two people and they both truly lost their lives to it.
In my opinion the film was so much better ecspecially the scene where Hayley is going on to heavan and all the victims of Harvey appear and then the song to the siren by mortal coil plays. I'm not going to lie I consider myself to be a real man's man and that was the only film that had me crying like a baby.
I already knew and loved the song, it's something very special. It's the weirdest thing: I expected the song to be in the movie given the feel of it, like a premonition. When those first, so very recognizable, notes hit: wow. Just wow. Perfect fit. Brian Eno also created a masterwork on this movies' score.
Really loved the movie. The books way of telling the story was not my favorite.
I can see that! It all just depends on what you like and what you don't! I think both forms of this story can appeal to anyone and I'm glad that you were able to love the movie!!
Wonder why it is rotten 32 percent on rotten tomatoes
@@FlashReverseEditz Maybe it's because people generally don't like very uncomfortable movies with the exception of horror movies?
At the 15 minute mark you mention that it seems like less time has passed. I imagined as I watched that everyone stayed the age that Susie can remember. So she may have been college age or even older but be portrayed as the same age throughout. Not sure if that makes sense just thought I'd comment.
I've watched the movie but not read the book yet but I struggle to understand why he went through the whole process of building the underground thing. I initially thought it was to keep her for a while or something. Was the actual murder happening so quickly pictured as a mistake in the book?
I never really thought of it as a mistake but because it does seem to happen quickly in the book that does make sense to me!
In order to lure young girls into a space that seems warm and interesting. Those who are curious would want to go down there and investigate in a sense.
If you read the book it explains Mr. Harvey’s backstory! Him building traps for his victims is like part of his kill ritual, he savors the planning. 🤢
But in this case it was also bc it was on her route home, private and after the murder he was able to quickly collapse the hole to hide the evidence.
@@discountanniehathaway8511 completely agree! I also think that its about creating a certain setting for himself, because in the book he rapes her, and the setting he has made is one of warmth and comfort despite the horrific acts and so heightens the experience for him, and probably making it a lot worse for her
@@evienewey8156 exactly!! There’s so much in his childhood/backstory that’s reflected in how he stalks and kills his victims
The best way to experience "The Lovely Bones" is to see the film first, then read the book. This gives you both experiences and you won't feel like the film is trying to cram the last 1/3-1/4 of the book within the last 10-15 minutes of film for running time.
I feel bad that people won't get see the "The Lovely Bones" in a real theater again. Nor hear the sound track in aan equally large multi channel experience as Brian Eno did an amazing job with the music. The visuals in the film deserve to be seen on a large screen, far more than your 50-72 inch TV. So all the details make the right impression, from say when the ships in bottles are being smashed with them in Suzies world sailing into the rocky shore landscape becoming shipwrecks. To the massiveness of the cornfield and how it turns to swap and for the size that and feeling of it consuming you when it expanded and filled the screen. How you were sinking in as it swallowed you just viewing it. Others were small details that just showed up better on a movie screen than on a home TV, even if have large one, like when Mr. Harvey and Detective are "dancing around the doll house" when being questioned, as Mr Harvey has to grab and quickly pocket Suzie's charm bracelet's charm without the detective seeing him remove the evidence. That was in plain view has he had victim keep sake on display to remind him.
Now that you're 3 years older and there has been a big culture shift in views about some of the scenes , it would be interesting to do a rewatch then a reread, making another video with you comparing your older viewing , with your younger views here. Not bashing you for the age, but for how people talk about and take the scene between Ray and Ruth with Suzie in the film in present day . Compared to when it was released for how it is/was viewed differently as being more natural without it being any type of violations.
The actor who performed as Mr Harvey looks completely different and while he did a great job portraying the character as the character, he has said in interviews how he really didn't like having to become that character for the scenes they shot for the film. The religious backlash of the fact Suzie was in place in between and not in heaven itself, was big deal with a lot churches and they condemned the movie. The Catholics didn't have any issue as it fit purgatory, although Suzie wouldn't be in"purgatory" for the Catholics normal reason. There was just so much negative reaction to the book and the film from various groups all for different trivial reasons.
I hope in time people can read and watch the film and experience each without the baggage they have been saddled with.
"My name is Salmon, like the fish. First name: Susie. I was here for a moment, and then I was gone. I wish you all, a long, and happy life.
This being my favorite movie and book, I am honestly really glad they didn't have the mom like or date the detective helping them with suizes case, like she did in the book and kissed the cop, way better that she DID NOT in the movie
I just finished the book for the first time, ive seen the movie probably 10 times since i was like 12. I think i like both the book and the movie a lot. I felt like the book was a little hard to follow at times, when she would go into long detail about like a building or she would talk about a past event for so long, i started to forget what was a present event and what was a past event. Maybe that just had to do with my short attention span.
Anyways, I was shocked when I learned that Abigail was gone for 7 years! That's so crazy, when Buck said "fuck you" to her, i laughed. I'm so mad at Abigail for running away in both the movie and the book, i understand she was grieving but she had 2 other kids that needed her.
In the book, Susie and Ray have sex while Susie is in Ruth's body but uhhhhhh wasn't Ray like 22 and Susie was still 14. I guess I could see it as, Susie kind of grew up mentally while watching everyone else grow up and I guess it is kind of poetic that Susie didn't let her one and only time be with a man who r-worded her. Also I guess Ruth was also 22 so I guess it all technically is okay, when it comes to ghosts and body possession I suppose all logic goes out the window.
Idk why but im kind of upset that Lindsey didn't name her daughter Susie, like Suzanne Abigail bc I feel like Susie as her first name just would make more sense considering her mom did leave her for 7 years.
While Susie was in Ruth's body she didn't mention anything to Ray about where her body was or any other evidence that could solve her case, i understand that she was trying to move on from it but it would brought closure to everyone in her life.
Another key difference is that the book makes Mr Harvey a more sympathetic villain. It explores his childhood and that losing his mother traumatized him even into his adulthood, and that he has an irresistible urge to kill children, which he attempts to repress. However in the movie, he asks for NO sympathy, and kills just because it's fun!
The read the book and I could not stand the mother in the story.
PERIOD! When Buckley said fuck you to her I was so proud lmao
Yes ! You know I'm on page 213 and from the thing when she just said "let the cops find her" that lady is like gross ! I kinda feel like Susie was like nothing to her...... Only she was like Mr Len!
Sorry but I really really hate her mother... Susie's father and Lindsey both tried to find clues about Susie but that lady literally did nothing nor did she trusted them.
i preferred the book just because the inbetween was so different than how it was described in the book
wow that's actually a great video
And SUSAN SARANDON!!!
I feel like if it was a woman directing this she would give more space to characters development and their relationships. Also yeah the "musical" part felt cringe
After watching it today, I just didn’t understand the part how the dad found out that Mr. Harvey was the murderer. A better compliance to it, would’ve been that Susie nearly escaped but got away and left finger prints and dna, for example, at the subdivision clubhouse, a place that is near both to the protagonist and antagonist but would be an unexpected place to leave evidence. I get that it’s supernatural but it would be cool if they could’ve made a near escape scene for Susie that would make the audience think for a second that she escaped.
At the beginning of the movie she even explains she was killed before missing kids were put onto milk cartoons. Susie set you during a time were DNA tracking wasn't a thing and the thought of "stranger danger" wasn't common. People trust everybody during that time and that's why she trusted Mr. Harvey to go into that house underneath the earth. Also in the book, they find her clothes and figured out she was dead. Then clues started to come together and they figured out it was Mr. Harvey but he was on the run already. And again there is no social media like it is now to try to find him.
Because in the book she doesn't nearly escape, she explains at the beginning how she was murdered. As Mickey Guajacho said it was in a time before milk cartons had missing kids on them!! There was so much not in the film that was in the book that really should have been included, this I think led to a confusion for those who hadn't read the book!!
@@sjmsutherland Oh, did Susie’s dad find out earlier it was Mr. Harvey?
@@chantintin10 he does at some point, it's been a while since I read the book so can't quite remember when! I know it's just before he got beaten I think as if I remember right he was following Mr Harvey through the corn field when he got savegly attacked!?!
He realized that Mr Harvey was only tending to the flowers to watch Susie and after Susie died he didn’t keep up with them. Then he thought about how he looked at her when he was tending to the flowers. I also think he was watching how he was tying the rope around the thing he was building.
I thought both the book and movie were average. I still can't decide which is better. Stanley Tucci is amazing though in the film!
I didn't understand the last page-little house ,wife, and husband and trinkets from the Industrial Park.
OMG did you meet the weasly twins? I think its them in the picture behind you
I haven’t read the book but I didn’t really like the trippy part in the movie either. It didn’t really make any sense.
Books better definitely more realistic
Honestly I didnt really like the fact that the movie made it seem like the inbetween is a bad place- or that there even is an inbetween. Nothing bad happens to Susie in the book- she doesnt see anything bad. So I dont know maybe im missing something. Shes in her heaven not an inbetween. And she doesnt move on to real heaven in the end either so🤨🤨 and the fact that they didnt include buckley growing up or the sister moving on
I enjoy this video. I've only seen the movie only and enjoy it.
Love your vibe, but you're talking too fast
I’m waiting for the new book called my mistakes I’ll buy that
i liked the movie but liked the book better
I liked the movie better than the book. I rarely have that opinion.
I love both versions
Quick correction: There's nothing in the movie that implies Lindsey got pregnant. I just finished it so I was confused by that statement.
The end quickly shows her pregnant. It's years after Susie's death
She is literally holding on to her stomach as she is painting at the end scene because in the book that's were she decided to name her child after her sister.
Really? Look up the last fee shots in the film, she is very pregnant
Few
She has a baby bump in the end tho
I wish you knew then that Alice is a liar😂😂
Oh so kissing a guy is actually in the book? Lol that's one of the things I hated about the movie. The fact that she wants to go back just to kiss a boy puts me off. Like she was murdered and abused sexually and all she can think is being sexual with a boy...lol
Agreed. She had the chance to pinpoint where her body was or tell who her murderer was (including his other victims btw). She could've exposed EVERY detail and she chose to spend it with a boy. A BOY. No❤
A kiss isn’t sexual, it was more to show how she fantasied on romance and her life was snatched so she never got the chance to be in a relationship or experience love . So it’s not really about her wanting to be sexual.
Actually It quite common for real victims of SA To become hypersexual after an attack, because Its a coping mechanism like, 'If I expose myself to situations like the traumatizing one, but they all turn out to be fine, then I can more easily Ignore the pain of the traumatizing one' Basically Its exposure therapy. Also, the victims will be more susceptible to seek 'love' In any form after an attack, trying to erase the guilt they might feel thinking they arent worthy
@@glitchhernandez5059 Her fantasies about romance could've very easily included a future sexual encounter with Ray, only to have them ruined by some sicko perverted asshole who's close to 60.
Anyway, in another video on this, somebody claimed that in the book Suzy got to do more than just kiss Ray while she was possessing Ruth's body, and that they actually did have sex. I didn't read the book, so I don't know whether or not that's true.
This was one of my favorite books. I was so disappointed in the movie. With book I couldn’t put it down, cried so many times. With movie I felt empty. So much was missing. Not a fan at all of the movie. Highly recommend the book.
I like the movie better than the book
Great video!
Why would you buy a book from an author that robbed a black man of 16 years of hisf life due to false rape allegations?! To her every black man looks the same "thats him officer". She is a traumatized racist that got a black man jailed for 16 damn years!!!
why would you support her in buying her books or doing reviews on them? Do you have any shame in supporting her? Also these ignorant people in the comment section celebrating the book and the lady..... disgusting! Get your facts and rethink your position.
Justice for Anthony Broadwater, 5.5 Million are not worth 16 years of unjust imprisonment, it cant be paid off with money, the complete destruction of this man life, his status, his family life, everything ruined because this lady cant see the difference in black faces...She just saw some black on the streets and was like "yeah thats him"....Eff all the fans of ther still supporting her and her books, you disgust me!!
Damn, hostile much?
@@babymoondancer hostile, yes
@@MrBroken030 I meant towards a completely innocent party comparing a book and the movie based on it, not towards the story's questionable author.
huh? She did kiss ray at the end of the movie?
You speak very fast
Book was better
I'm sorry but I couldn't catch it: so in the books someone recovers her remains? Or she ends up in the pile anyway for the rest of eternity?
@Brianna Price nope, I have no clue, maybe Book Depository?
@Brianna Price you should check your local library! Mine has it and I just checked it out to read
@Brianna Price I ordered mine off of Amazon
#AuthorKaren where was respect for Mr. Broadwater, the innocent man your book & #Netflix movie is about ...
At criminal trial, you changed the person you said "committed" the rape, and sent an innocent man to jail..
He was exonerated [Recently] and we're learning of this [recently] ... this #slaver & well known victim, was proven wrong by the local #DA, and her movie #producer, for netflix...
She benefitted from books, and #Hollywood, while he's been labeled a sex offender, and couldn't carry on, with his life. She's a Liar of sorts. Likely, a victim, but would've blamed any #blackMan
* this is a pitiful human, a sad victim, and family destroying #Liar .. God bless the man she dragged for 16 years 🙏 🤔🙌🏾
Plot Twist: She couldn't really ID her attacker. She is a lying ass ghost and harvey is a scapegoat. She is stuck in the inbetween purgatory because liars can't go to heaven
lmfao whatt😭
i read it but couldnt finish
Why didn’t you finish the book??
@@angb1672 im not so sure
Yeah I was the same, I tried but just couldn't finish it
I will watch movie,
Spoiler alert: The white girl lied and the black guy is innocent.
If you had no idea what the film is about and watch it because it has Robert Downey Jr. You will hate this film for all eternity. The movie is Pure Depression. While i love dark themes and psycho thrillers. This pure trash.
What?
Huh¿? I wonder if you watched a different film?? He's not in the film, it was Mark Wahlberg!
I only watched the movie once, he wasn't in it.
I think you talking about avengers
@@allaboutbeebo4092 lol probably