The History of Arabic Numerals

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    The so called Arabic numbers are everywhere in our lives. So much so that I bet you haven’t thought much about them. Where did they come from? Well, in this video we'll track their evolution through time AND space, so strap in.
    Sources:
    mathshistory.s...
    Number Words and Number Symbols: A Cultural History of Numbers by Karl Menninger
    www.historyext...
    Music:
    Scheming Weasel, Thatched Villagers and Eastern Thought by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
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  • @pippo767
    @pippo767 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Hindu Arabic Numerals are actually Indian Numerals because Arabic script is from Right to left but Brahmi script is from Left to right from which Hindu Arabic numerals originated.

    • @Cau_No
      @Cau_No ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Have you ever noticed that numbers, when getting bigger, grow on their *left* side?
      That's because we kept the writing order from Arabic when they entered into Europe.
      We are basically reading them backwards.
      In Hebrew and Arabic texts the numbers look exactly the same as in the translated text with numerals.
      And as the video stated, 'Modern Arabic' numerals look neither like the original hindu nor arabic.

    • @WilfChadwick
      @WilfChadwick ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Cau_No "reading them backwards"?! Luckily, in English, we use the most logical way of verbalising the written numbers. Imagine reading and saying them "backwards", we might end up calling 'everyone not islamic must be murdered', 'peaceful'.

    • @Cau_No
      @Cau_No ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WilfChadwick Luckily, I'm not English.
      Maybe you want to redact your thoughts into clear text, then I might be able to understand what you are talking about.
      And when you begin verbalising the number from the left, then you start at its highest digit - which is, as I explained, at its end.

    • @WilfChadwick
      @WilfChadwick ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cau_No Please don't start a sentence with "And", it makes you appear somewhat stupid.
      Luckily, i am English.
      23 - Twenty (first written and said), three (second written and said).
      - Drie (tweede geschreven eerst gesproken), en twintig (eerst geschreven tweede gesproken).
      Arabic is the same as, eg Dutch above, except for the weird 200's anomaly.
      Which is read backwards?
      Ps. 13-14-15-16-17-18-19 in English. Backwards?

    • @Cau_No
      @Cau_No ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WilfChadwick Yeah, attack the form first before you try to argue the content - really bad style.
      I am talking about the digits, not the words!
      You have to align numbers on their right side to sum them up, that's contrary to written text. That's what 'backwards' meant. The names of the numbers were not the point. But to take your example - "drie en twintig en honderd" would for this case be the logical name for 123, as when adding you begin *at the numbers' end*. But we don't do that anywhere in Europe.
      And I don't give a **** what you think about my English.

  • @mahmoudbenchehida9315
    @mahmoudbenchehida9315 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Before the decimal system numerals, Arabs did have a writing system for numbers. They used letters to represent numbers. Aleph represented 1, Ba represented 2, Gim represented 3, Dal represented 4, Ya represented 10, Kaph represented 20 and so on. Similar system was used in Greek and Hebrew. Saying they just used fingers is just gross.

    • @cjsm1006
      @cjsm1006 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yes, considering the abacus was invented, oh, a mere 4000 years, and was known to the ancient Sumerians, Egyptians, Greeks and Romans, I was actually slightly shocked when he dismissed the ancients as ignorant finger counters.
      Add in the fact that the ancient Greeks, Hebrews and Arabs had a number system, which though not modern, was far superior to the insane Roman Numeral system. That is, in ancient Greek, for example, the number 847 is written as 3 numbers from the letters for 800, 40, and 7. So it would parallel Arabic numbers in appearance and meaning. That is, in both the Arabic and Greek version of 847, the first number means 800, the second number 40, and the last number means 7, and is written as a 3 digit number.

    • @vamsikrishna3855
      @vamsikrishna3855 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cjsm1006 and how do you add , multiply, subtract and divide with such a system. And with decimal numbers?

    • @kaihusravnajmiddinov5413
      @kaihusravnajmiddinov5413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who has lied to you ?? So you're lying to others?
      You nations haven't got honestly enough, so you didn't succeed in haven't outstanding numeric system back on the days.

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    When I learned them they were actually called Hindu-Arabic numerals. Why do most of us now try to exclude the Indian origin?

    • @themorningguy906
      @themorningguy906 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cause India poor ?
      Jk jk anyway have a great day

    • @vedicarya7
      @vedicarya7 ปีที่แล้ว

      To colonize the minds probably

    • @GyanTvAmit
      @GyanTvAmit ปีที่แล้ว +60

      ​@@themorningguy906 india is not poor,india is 5th largest economy

    • @themorningguy906
      @themorningguy906 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@GyanTvAmit ik India is not poor , don't get offended mate . There's a lot to overcome too , but i hope India will be great in the future

    • @themorningguy906
      @themorningguy906 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@GyanTvAmit just having a 5th largest economy won't cut it , japan is at 3rd place with 4.5 trillion GDP but their population is 1/12 that of India
      I know these things hurt and the fact that India has been striving on their own (unlike japan who had the help of USA) . But I'm pretty sure India is gonna do good
      Anyway have a great day : )

  • @dnapolren
    @dnapolren ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We still learn our native numerals in school in India.. in kannada 1 is represented as inverted u..

    • @NaDadiga
      @NaDadiga หลายเดือนก่อน

      ನಮಸ್ಕಾರ 🙏

  • @therversonkanavathy7554
    @therversonkanavathy7554 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In Brahmi Numerals until Arabic, the symbol that we use for 4 was used for 5. Due to the angles, the symbols for 5 and 4 would have been better if time did not swap them around.

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's fake
      There is no evidence of angle thing
      Also nobody write numbers based on angle

  • @devingraves8044
    @devingraves8044 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    This is a very good channel, I don't understand why it doesn't get more views

    • @kkerr1953
      @kkerr1953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seeing as how he has 68,000 subscribers they are probably far more views. People just aren’t clicking the like button. So don’t forget to click the like button!

    • @zhan-iy3ms
      @zhan-iy3ms ปีที่แล้ว

      May be islamophobes are actually lovers of them.
      Or perhaps, Muslims plagued the West.

    • @erinmalone2669
      @erinmalone2669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because people on TH-cam don’t much care for book learnin’. I think people are here for cooking videos, mostly and cats being cute.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because the video is full with misinformation. He even called Africa Areb

    • @1h1oh34
      @1h1oh34 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well…book learn’n is just another tool of the devil, just like read’n and rite’n ….. ( funny statement @erinmalone2669 as it shows the mind expanded over any limitation of the topic (bravo)…..(though I do think cats are still cute)

  • @abahaymahajan954
    @abahaymahajan954 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It's INDIAN Number System

    • @zeyadahmed.
      @zeyadahmed. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      arabic

    • @sendbnes
      @sendbnes ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@zeyadahmed. watch the video

    • @mewhen9651
      @mewhen9651 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@sendbnes still arabic

    • @SwanandJadhav-ww8rx
      @SwanandJadhav-ww8rx ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@mewhen9651 cope

    • @mewhen9651
      @mewhen9651 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SwanandJadhav-ww8rx worst response ever kY s p@jeet

  • @therash09
    @therash09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So something originates in India but is still called "Arabic". Wow, the fairness of giving credits!

  • @agrajyadav2951
    @agrajyadav2951 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They are 100% Hindu. Not bulla shit arabic. If a chinese scientist called gravity, groching, that wont make it newton-chang theory of gravitation.

  • @aryandixit229
    @aryandixit229 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They are called Hindu-Arabic numerals now not Arabic numerals.

  • @user-rd4qk6nz8i
    @user-rd4qk6nz8i 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    In the development of numbers in Bharat (India), you not considered numbers developed KANNADA Script.
    Kannada script has own signs for Numbers. If anybody see and study kannada language and script, he will say KANNADA is the 100% scientific language with most beautiful script (Alphabets)

    • @Smith_14
      @Smith_14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tamil's : Well 🌝🌚

    • @pvs257
      @pvs257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Devnagari: Well 😊

    • @Hellidhbd87_
      @Hellidhbd87_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aage badho ab 😂🐸🐸 sanskrit se liya hoga

    • @1h1oh34
      @1h1oh34 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not sure what the comments to this mean but your post has me thinking hard.>I got some studying to do…ty4posting

    • @rutvikrs
      @rutvikrs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As an Indian and even someone who learns right, never understood this obsession claiming Indian things are scientific. It's a catch-all phrase that can mean well structured, has an internal logic, cause-effect dynamic etc.
      The single worst disservice you can do to Indian culture and history is give such wide undefined adjectives and FAIL at demonstrating your own description.
      All I need to do is to pull up the definition of scientific and ask you to demonstrate a scientific principle. Then these replies follow "That is a linguistic feature, not science" "every language has evolved to reflect it's environment and culture" "high culture has always been self referential, nothing new".

  • @DouglasJenkins
    @DouglasJenkins ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It is good that we can count on you and your content.

  • @raj33317aka
    @raj33317aka ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hindi number evovle. We still you it in hindi language.

    • @xrete
      @xrete ปีที่แล้ว

      cool numbers

    • @slimeplayz116
      @slimeplayz116 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Hindu”

  • @Antifag1977
    @Antifag1977 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How is the video about the history of Arabic numerals not going to include the very beginning? Namely how the shapes came about and the connection to geometry.

    • @rajisaad
      @rajisaad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The goal seems to discredit the syrian/iraqi arabs from this invention so he totally ignored the angle concept of the numbers that evolved in Syria/Iraq

  • @kirandeepchakraborty7921
    @kirandeepchakraborty7921 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Contributions of Indian scientists and mathematicians throughout history have been overlooked.

    • @BarlasofIndus
      @BarlasofIndus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mainly because the Indians themselves indulge in more fairytales and random abnox rather than promoting their scientific researches. Instead,they scream over random mythological states spanning from Ukraine to Japan

  • @inept_
    @inept_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Your version of the nursery rhyme at the start is so confusing to me. I don't know if it's a regional thing, but I've only ever heard it as a fish, not a hare. And you removed a syllable from each line, so there aren't even an equal number of syllables as there are numbers to rhyme with. Baffling

    • @TheGeneralistPapers
      @TheGeneralistPapers  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've heard it both ways.
      As for the syllables, I think I just read it aloud weirdly, and didn't catch it in the edit lol.
      Thanks for the comment

  • @theobolt250
    @theobolt250 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Credit where credit is due. It's the Indians! Not the Arabs.

    • @vincenttt8289
      @vincenttt8289 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, they should be called Hindu-Arabic numbers

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@vincenttt8289 no why are you adding Arabs ?
      Just because Arabs spread it and made little modification?
      By that logic it should be called as Europeans l number

    • @sari8438
      @sari8438 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Modern mathematics is creditable to the Arabs.
      That's why it's called Arabic numerals.
      Because before Arabs no one else was able to make a benefit of all numeral systems.

    • @sakkeuskarjalainen1688
      @sakkeuskarjalainen1688 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@user-uj2tk2tv3z yes I agree, arabs took all the credits even tho this system is indian

    • @PK-se2jh
      @PK-se2jh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vincenttt8289 arabs adopted these numbers just like europeans

  • @rajendradangi2585
    @rajendradangi2585 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What Arabs did with Hindu numeral system is what we call in today's movie industry lingo REMAKE. Cosmetic changes.

  • @lo-fiaesthetic5382
    @lo-fiaesthetic5382 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    They origin from India and were brought to attention of the West and further developed by a Persian...I don't know what the "Arabic" in Hindu-Arabic numerals is supposed to be

    • @ravitripathi1695
      @ravitripathi1695 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erathostenes-rq4mi
      Absolutely correct

    • @shivamsinghrawat9910
      @shivamsinghrawat9910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just for taking credit ,

    • @BarlasofIndus
      @BarlasofIndus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think cuz a certain famous scholar from Arab Caliphate restructured the numerical system to it's modern day use,before that, the Indian zero was just like the Mexican and native Australian zeros

    • @DAKEN711
      @DAKEN711 ปีที่แล้ว

      no developed by an arab not a persian.

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@BarlasofInduslmao 🤣🤣
      Indian zero is actually the original zero

  • @donlimoncelli6108
    @donlimoncelli6108 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    A 2019 poll conducted by CivilScience asked, "Should schools in America teach Arabic numerals as part of their curriculum?" The question was asked of 3624 respondents. Seventy-two percent of respondents who identified themselves as Republican said "no."

    • @hanzohattori9576
      @hanzohattori9576 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Until they learnt what the heck Arabic numerals entailed.

  • @gcook725
    @gcook725 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Speaking of numerals, could we get a video talking about different counting systems? We're all common with base 10, but it would be interesting to see the history of other systems such as the Sumerian 10+60, Mayan 5+20, or Duodecimal (which featured in many languages, and we still use to this day for many things, such as timekeeping and imperial measure).

    • @forthrightgambitia1032
      @forthrightgambitia1032 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another interesting topic is gemara, the way in which Greek and Hebrew letters were associated with numbers that then became seen as having a sort of magic relationship between names and numbers. Hence 666 and kaballah etc.

    • @shibolinemress8913
      @shibolinemress8913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And how about the complicated French system used in France? I've always wondered why they never adopted the simpler Swiss French system.

    • @erinmalone2669
      @erinmalone2669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the base 12 that counted the joints in the counting fingers.

    • @gcook725
      @gcook725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erinmalone2669 Yes! This is actually how I count anything above 10 cuz you can do 1-12 on one hand, and multiples of 12 on the other hand (basically turning your hands into a base12 abacus)

    • @nuvotion-live
      @nuvotion-live ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ethnomathematics is a really interesting topic! I hope he does make that video

  • @spcrl
    @spcrl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @7:18 The Numerals you are Showing in this video are the Persian version not the Arabic. 4 and 5 in The Arabic transcript look a bit different.

  • @MdArbaz1
    @MdArbaz1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Please correct the map of India (Bharat)

  • @user-rp4ll1nw5d
    @user-rp4ll1nw5d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For those who’re moaning about why is it called Arabic and not Hindu,
    it’s called Arabic because the Arabs not only spread but also adjust them.
    You see your Hindu numerals at 3:34 ? It looks different than the Arabic numbers 8:18

    • @ujjainsharma9796
      @ujjainsharma9796 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Keeps crying
      only reason it's called Arab number is because European learned it from Arab
      Arab used to call it Hindu number because they learned it from Hindustan

    • @user-rp4ll1nw5d
      @user-rp4ll1nw5d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@ujjainsharma9796 would you say English is Latin because of its origin? Or Arabic is Ancient Sumerian? Absolutely flawed! I’ve never seen an Arab call it Hindu. In fact they call it AUTHENTIC Arabic numbers😂.
      It has a Hindu origin but that doesn’t make it Hindu.

    • @jazzjeer
      @jazzjeer 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@user-rp4ll1nw5doffcourse it is u people are ignorant thats y.......nothing changes the facts u people are hyprocrite

  • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
    @user-uj2tk2tv3z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for giving credit to Indians

  • @chemputer
    @chemputer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yeah I'm gonna need a video about that whole Arabic finger reckoning system. Pretty please.

    • @sari8438
      @sari8438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have never heard about it.
      The system used by Arabs before modern numerals, called Calculation of Sentences. (Which based on the alphabetical order)

  • @michaeldufresne9428
    @michaeldufresne9428 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I had always heard them called Hindu Arabic numerals

    • @AKGamer-tc6js
      @AKGamer-tc6js ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The reason behind that is Arab and Indian had a huge trading for food and goods…so they created a mathematical language we call it number

    • @GyanTvAmit
      @GyanTvAmit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AKGamer-tc6js not they,only hindus create numbers,arabs just copy them and promote in west

    • @PK-se2jh
      @PK-se2jh ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The title should be Indian or Hindu numerals as all of these originated from Indian subcontinent

    • @mewhen9651
      @mewhen9651 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@PK-se2jh in your dreams p@jeet the one who created their shape is khawarizmi

    • @PK-se2jh
      @PK-se2jh ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@mewhen9651 lol why are you so angry abdul? I just said this because every number originated from the Indian subcontinent. I am Shri Lankan. Abdul now go boom boom

  • @Vaamananraavanan
    @Vaamananraavanan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In tamil ol - onnu/ latin - uno / English- one -/ uno became universe, vine , union.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even I've started using these numerals.

  • @PK-se2jh
    @PK-se2jh ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The title should be Indian or Hindu numerals as all of these origianted from India. Arabs and Europeans adopted these numbers from Indians so how these are called ONLY Arabic numerals

    • @BarlasofIndus
      @BarlasofIndus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arabs modified it to their modern use ,I think that's the reason. Without the modification,the Indian numbers would have remained in that primitive form just like the Mexican and native Australian systems did

    • @TOBAPNW_
      @TOBAPNW_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I was in school, the system was called Hindu-Arabic

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarlasofIndus actually northern African modified it to its modern use, not Araps. Try again.

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BarlasofInduswhat modification did they do ?
      They did nothing
      They only changed shapes
      However modern shapes come from Europe

    • @jazzjeer
      @jazzjeer 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@BarlasofIndus😂😂😂😂what modification they did stupid just changing shapes does not change the facts that ot still has 10 numbers so now cry about it is still called hindu numerals

  • @GrIM99913
    @GrIM99913 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It starts at 2:14

  • @somaalzoy5003
    @somaalzoy5003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    في دول المغرب العربي الخمسة ليبيا و تونس و الجزائر و المغرب و موريتانيا لا نكتب با لارقام الهندي بل نكتب بأرقام الخوارزمي
    بينم باقي العرب في مصر و السودان و شبه الجزيرة العربية يستخدمون الارقام الهندية

    • @Azoz-bu7ck
      @Azoz-bu7ck ปีที่แล้ว +1

      يا حبي الارقام في شبه الجزيرة كمان عربيه. 😂😂😂😂😂. تفهم انجليزي؟

    • @somaalzoy5003
      @somaalzoy5003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Azoz-bu7ck 😂بس انتو تكتبو بهذا الارقام ٠١٢٣٣وهذي هندية ونحن في دول المغرب العربي 01234 أرقام الخوارزمي و بالعكس نفرحو لو تحولت جميع الدول العربية للكتابة بأرقام الخورزمي

    • @vaibhavkumar-ql2fw
      @vaibhavkumar-ql2fw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@somaalzoy5003 Al-Khwarizmi’s himself took Hindu numbers in his book, his book title was lgorithmo de Numero Hindurum. وقد أخذ الخوارزمي بنفسه الأرقام الهندوسية في كتابه، وكان عنوان كتابه هو lgorithmo de Numero

    • @anonymouslyopinionated656
      @anonymouslyopinionated656 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where do you think Khwarizmi got it from? The forms are not the main thing here, but the number system itself

  • @geoffchurchill5492
    @geoffchurchill5492 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll still call them arabic numbers because they were the only things I could readwhen II went to Saudi Arabia

  • @sterno5119
    @sterno5119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ancient Greeks were great in mathematics. But what kind of numerals they had used and what system they had? You can't calculate the circumference of the earth with something like Roman numerals.

    • @mandandi
      @mandandi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They learned mathematics in Kemet or ancient Egypt. So, the numerals used were from Kemet, and these Arabic numerals are in fact of Kemetic origin too. Greeks were educated in Kemet in all manner of fields, and they clearly say so in their writings.

  • @jitendramisra722
    @jitendramisra722 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Numericals said hindusa by arabs means hinduo se liya hua.

  • @SpinkingKK
    @SpinkingKK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope great novelist, Dan Brown, watch this and understands. I even lost interest in reading his book once I read his hero(apparently a genius) giving full credits to the arabs for the modern numbers.

    • @donlimoncelli6108
      @donlimoncelli6108 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It may be that Dan Brown knows full well that the concept of zero came from India, but wanted his character say that it came from the Arabs.

  • @nice5396
    @nice5396 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am disappointed of the lack of talking about Al-Khwarizmi. He was mentioned, but as he is one of the major scientist that helped the spread and change of the Hindu numerals, i don't understand why he got such short mentioned. Another issue is that it seems that he is the only person who his ethnicity was not mentioned. He was an Iranian (Persian), which is important as you repeatedly say Arabic world when it should be Islamic world. Infact the Persian were a major if not the largest scientific part of the Islamic golden age and were a major reason of the spread of the Hindu numerals. The Persians and Indians were definitely a very important part of the western used numerals even if the Arabs also contributed a lot.

    • @Fiend1sh3
      @Fiend1sh3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am disgusted that Persians try to give Al Kharazmi as their own. He was not Persian. He was a Khorezmian who is from Khorezm. He was born in the city of Khiva. I live there. Is there any region called Khorezm in Iran?

    • @erinmalone2669
      @erinmalone2669 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s only an eight minute video, so I don’t think that could be covered in such a broad topic video. It would be a good topic for supplemental.

    • @TheKlaun9
      @TheKlaun9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why don't they force people by law to give credit to every kind of people (since you're not talking about individuals but ethnicities) at the end of every video for every single invention they needed in order to make that video? From the domestication of the pig as a great food source to the guy that cleans the server room where this video is hosted?
      This may not seem obvious to you, but here's the answer:
      Because that's stupid and doesn't help anyone? You need to stop somewhere and you'll never make everyone happy - especially not the modern identity & ultra nationalist crowd. Stop thinking so much in races or whatever. Thats some 19th century sh* and in its ultimate conclusion, leads to hatred, violence and eventually, war.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What did Arebs contribute? Taking the credits?😂

    • @DAKEN711
      @DAKEN711 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@John-pk9rw arabs achieve and persians leech

  • @kanhaibhatt913
    @kanhaibhatt913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those are Hindu numerals not Arab.

  • @Anonymous-ym8gr
    @Anonymous-ym8gr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for giving due credit to India!

  • @zyxw2000
    @zyxw2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Someone did a survey asking parents if their children should be taught Arabic numerals. The reply from most of them was "No."

  • @hamidhosseini9984
    @hamidhosseini9984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This numeric is innovated by Iranian scholar khwarizmi and has not any relation to arabs.

  • @wardafournello
    @wardafournello 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry if I spoil it for you, but in linear B' tablets the calculations are done with the decimal system.🙂Research it a bit.
    The shape of the numbers is west Arabic.

  • @thirunavukarasug6577
    @thirunavukarasug6577 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arabic numerals!!! Such a dominant weird phrase.🤔
    It's an Indo-arabic numerals. Adopters are not inventers.
    Refer: Fibonacci's Liber abaci (1202)
    Chapter 1:"....These are the nine figures of the Indians...."

  • @mark9058
    @mark9058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was taught at a very young age that the Arabic numerals we use had a basic meaning from the original meaning of the symbol it was derived from; 2 meant a woman with child, 8 was two bags of gold. I do not remember what the others started out as and that is what I have trying to find to no success.

  • @David-yw2lv
    @David-yw2lv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always wondered if the numerals were modeled after objects the laters were.The numerals one looks like a finger,two looks like a swan,four looks like a kite,eight looks like a snowman,zero looks like an orb.

    • @JokersNtheOddball
      @JokersNtheOddball 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember when they "made Jesus white"? Let's just say white people went to explore the desert many years ago, carrying the basic measurements of geometry broken down into symbols. Say they were captured, forced to tell everything they know. Then killed. Ta da! "Arabic numerals"

  • @sandeshreddy1613
    @sandeshreddy1613 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It came from india

    • @BarlasofIndus
      @BarlasofIndus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And modified to become useful outside India

    • @disorderedenthropy
      @disorderedenthropy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BarlasofInduscope. They were useful from the time Hindus invented them.

    • @blank_3768
      @blank_3768 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@disorderedenthropydifferent cultures have different means of writing. no the original numerals where not useful for writing ink on vellum.

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@blank_3768that's fake
      The number system already existed way before islam
      Arabs didn't add anything to the number system

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@blank_3768do you have any brain ?
      Muslims only translated indian works
      Alkhwarin himself said these in his books

  • @M.Ghilas
    @M.Ghilas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    21st century nationalism is a pain in the back , All I see in the comments is Arabs and Indians argue over who's ancestors contributed to the origins of the numerals just to cope with their inferiority complex .

    • @rohangamer8244
      @rohangamer8244 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just like in 17th and 18th in Europe ,where nationalism got converted to imperialism .

  • @Faustobellissimo
    @Faustobellissimo ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The development of number "4" is interesting...

    • @scarzgg
      @scarzgg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IKR?! I can’t find any commentary on it. Would love to hear theories abt how that happened lol

  • @sergiomoura5371
    @sergiomoura5371 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting! Thank you for the video.

  • @URNEXT187
    @URNEXT187 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    seems like you have mixed it all... and forgot the Persians.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean the guy even thinks Africa is Arap so you can’t blame him for thinking Iran is Arap too. I’m just waiting for him to call the moon Arap😂

    • @DAKEN711
      @DAKEN711 ปีที่แล้ว

      whi have nothing to do with this.

  • @luiseduardomodler6264
    @luiseduardomodler6264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting topic. I very like of math history. Thank you

  • @countschad
    @countschad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Farther, not "further" when considering distance...

  • @AzarMusic
    @AzarMusic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great effort in making the video, however, It's very unfortunate that you spoke briefly of moroccan/amazigh numerals, and you also failed to mention the one who first invented the ghubar numerals, which is Ibn al-Yasamin, who is an amazighi mathematician.

  • @user-jt2mi6fd5o
    @user-jt2mi6fd5o หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Indian"-Persian numbers: Khwarazmi was persian
    Kushyar was persian
    Jamshid Kashani was persian

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are 12 number names. one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve
    Clocks do not follow the decimal system but use the 12 number system. 24 is 2x 12 and 60 is 5x 12

    • @blank_3768
      @blank_3768 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there are alot more numbers than 12 lol.
      clocks and time keeping come from the mesopotamians, who used a base 12 counting system.

  • @graphixkillzzz
    @graphixkillzzz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you're not a real nerd, until you can count to 1024 on your fingers 😏👍

  • @cvenkat7766
    @cvenkat7766 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They are not Arabic numericals . They are either Indo - Arabic numerals or Hindu Numerals . Calling them Arabic numerals is a great injustice being done to Hindus .

    • @blank_3768
      @blank_3768 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the system is called hindu-arabic, but 1 2 3…. is called western arabic numerals.

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it's not
      All these numbers come from brahmi numbers and modern numbers are very different than what Arabs invented​@@blank_3768

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@blank_3768these numbers are derived from indian numbers

  • @michaelwhite9513
    @michaelwhite9513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had been taught that the 0 came from the Arabs. I am so glad I have found this channel. Thanks

    • @salim_Salim...
      @salim_Salim... 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No zero come from arab. In Arabic geometry is called ilm e hindasi. In Arabic hindasi means geometry. The invent the number which they called hindu numeral. It's not come india.. search in Google what hindasi means

    • @nixonxc7157
      @nixonxc7157 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@salim_Salim... The concept of zero is believed to have originated in the Hindu cultural and spiritual space around the 5th century CE. The first recorded zero appeared in Mesopotamia around 3 B.C., and the Mayans invented it independently circa 4 A.D..
      In the 7th century, Brahmagupta, a Hindu astronomer and mathematician, developed the earliest known methods for using zero within calculations. He used small dots under numbers to show a zero placeholder, and he was the first to show that subtracting a number from itself results in zero.
      The word for zero in Sanskrit is śūnya, which refers to nothingness. Brahmagupta and others viewed the zero as having a null value, called “sunya”.
      The discovery of zero would later change the way civilizations developed. With modern finance, it is much easier to conceptualize trade and business.

    • @minha8821
      @minha8821 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@salim_Salim... you are wrong the first concept of zero was seen in egypt around 1770 bc. then, in india ,greek , china. the only difference is that they use different style to represent it. in india, the use of decimal system, and elaborated concept of zero with zero symbol itself was invented by arybhatt around 500 bc. the zero in arabic is sifr which means void, nothingness. it can be meant literally for nothingness just like similar words you can find in every language but not in arithmetic. as for these numerals, arabas and india were doing trades 1000 year ago which is why you can find oldest mosque after makka in india. there are documented proofs how numerals travel from Arabs to Europeans in which it is clearly mentioned how arabs came to use these numerals from India by trading. yes, you may be right about hindasi ( as i tried to google it and nothing came out) but these kinds of concepts you will find in every country history. but the point is this numerical representation of 123456 came from india. hope you are clear about it and don't take it in hostile manner.

  • @mrparkerdan
    @mrparkerdan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is 0 really a number? 🤨

    • @V1kram
      @V1kram 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is "a" really a word?

  • @alkeshmajithia2099
    @alkeshmajithia2099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Learnt from India.

  • @jasond.3997
    @jasond.3997 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the great video!

  • @John-pk9rw
    @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who’s gonna teach this man some geography. He thinks Africa is located in Arabia

  • @aloysiushettiarachchi4523
    @aloysiushettiarachchi4523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You haven't got it right. How did Mohenjo Daro people create engineering marvels without mathematics. And how ancient Sri Lankans created similar structures around that time (circa 2000 BC) that you can see even today?.

  • @Torpedo07
    @Torpedo07 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if I told you that Arabic numerals are written incorrectly? there are no curves in Arabic numerals, but rather angles number zero has no angle number one has one angle two has two angles and so on until the number nine this is how Al-Khwarizmi wrote it

  • @harrisonofthenorth
    @harrisonofthenorth 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So the first quarter of your video was about patreon, so I read the Wikipedia page on Arabic numbers instead.

  • @iamsuperb3714
    @iamsuperb3714 ปีที่แล้ว

    the buy at the end was kinda unexpected 😂😂

  • @heronimousbrapson863
    @heronimousbrapson863 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Aztecs had independently invented their own base - 20 place value numbering system, which included a symbol for zero.

  • @lildannyboi13
    @lildannyboi13 ปีที่แล้ว

    1, 2, 3, 4, how many … are in my store? I knowww you’re stealinggg!

  • @hassanmars5250
    @hassanmars5250 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nowdays our numbers actually is west Arabic numbers,not hindus numbers

  • @vkvidz2963
    @vkvidz2963 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    00:49 he uses wrong map of india...😡

    • @blank_3768
      @blank_3768 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      boo hoo

    • @MuhammadImran93
      @MuhammadImran93 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's wrong with it (seriously, I don't know much how map of India actually looks like)

  • @user-fu7mn6wi1c
    @user-fu7mn6wi1c 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did we Arabs really invent these numbers? I did not know 🇸🇦

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kudies for Severus Sebokht quote.
    I think you gave too much attention to symbols used to represent numerals, and too little to explain why positional number system that includes zero (it is irrelevant whether it is decimal, octal, hexadecimal...) is crucial for calculations beyond haggling with a fishmonger.

  • @pedromrgdias
    @pedromrgdias 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelente vídeo thanks. I just want to point out that you should have referred to Iberian and Italian peninsulas instead of Spain or Italy, to be more accurate.

  • @SPQRxUSAxNUSA
    @SPQRxUSAxNUSA 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I remember correctly the numbers @8:12 are a message.

  • @user-uy7ur3li1x
    @user-uy7ur3li1x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    دخلت الارقام العربيه الى اروبا عن طريقين الاول مدينة بجايه اليوم فى الجزاير يتردد عليها التجار الاروبيون وخاصه اليهود وللعلم العالم العظيم ليوناردو ليبارشي عاش طفولته فى بجايه وهو يهودي ومن اكبر علماء الرياضيات فى كل العصور والطريق الثاني الاندلس

  • @dahlakdahlak8740
    @dahlakdahlak8740 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It seems now days many are instinctively leaning many origins inventions to what,how they may think what they know or what may suite for them or for many ?

  • @hamidhosseini9984
    @hamidhosseini9984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Khwarizmi is a Persian (iranian) scholar which lived in samargand one of large city of Iran till few centuries ago and today is in Uzbekistan teritory,that does not have any relation to arabs.

  • @diegovega6545
    @diegovega6545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IN MEXICO WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL
    THE TEACHER NAME THE NUMER'S
    NUMEROS ARABIGOS
    OR ARABIC NUMBER'S !!
    AND I THOUGHT BACK THEN
    MAYBE THE ARABIC PEOPLE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, AND INVENT THE NUMBER'S.........

  • @keesdevos4816
    @keesdevos4816 ปีที่แล้ว

    My guess is that one aspect of history should be added. Meaning to say that women who did most of actual arithmatic in bartering probably "invented" the small zero being their help in decimising using rings on their pinks. Being the reason for purposely not continuing with eleven, twelve etc. If writers\mathematitians had really "invented" cyphering they would have likely expanded their coding if even to impress their system. The overall importance of decimising withheld this?

  • @VinayakVidhyasagar
    @VinayakVidhyasagar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey how did egypt n mexico n chile got so precise in calculation without numerals???

  • @tomrichter244
    @tomrichter244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are mathematical al concepts " invented" or is it more accurate to say they were " conceived " just curious

    • @Krappenschittz
      @Krappenschittz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you see historic Things that way, there is nothing that can be proven to have been invented/discovered by anybody.

    • @anonymouslyopinionated656
      @anonymouslyopinionated656 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes

  • @zahirhussain5913
    @zahirhussain5913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:25 evolution chart of numerals

  • @sanaachanel4860
    @sanaachanel4860 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are numbers of Moroccan origin compiled by IBN AL_YASMINE in the ninth centurey .and papa Sylviester pubilshed them in Europe because hé studied at thé University of Qarabin in Fez .they are called Dusty Numbers

  • @vijaychand1980
    @vijaychand1980 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then why its called Arabic. Thats misleading. Its should be called Hindu numerals not Arabic.

  • @savagecountryballs989
    @savagecountryballs989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    stilll how can you find distance between earth and sun with no proper methods

  • @akhalif579
    @akhalif579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well it seems it is Part refined arabic hindu numeral, because the original indian numeral switched eastern arabia and western arabic is today numeral of the universal.1-10.

  • @WilfChadwick
    @WilfChadwick ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Muslims love to hear this, they don't have a meltdown at all, as expected they accept the newly learned knowledge and just move on.

  • @indibhart5731
    @indibhart5731 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Indian Numerals ❤

  • @mhadimoh
    @mhadimoh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We called it "Ghabaria numerals" and it's moroccan

    • @pippo767
      @pippo767 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hindu Arabic Numerals are actually Indian Numerals because Arabic script is from Right to left but Brahmi script is from Left to right from which Hindu Arabic numerals originated.

    • @John-pk9rw
      @John-pk9rw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The moon is also Moroccan

    • @Alinorosso2003
      @Alinorosso2003 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@pippo767
      The present forms are from Morocco. The system itself from India

    • @user-uj2tk2tv3z
      @user-uj2tk2tv3z 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Alinorosso2003only shapes are from Morocco
      Actually they are from Europe

    • @bralamzali2304
      @bralamzali2304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      numbers of fez

  • @mohammedalarifi4458
    @mohammedalarifi4458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i seriously questions some information here as they are not precise

  • @Red-Feather
    @Red-Feather 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you include Bangladesh in the Indian map? University? You shd’ve taken geography.

  • @sajiantony7473
    @sajiantony7473 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might already have started in Africa, but the recorded history is starting from India.

  • @abunafeesmuhammad8464
    @abunafeesmuhammad8464 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some contradictory and confusing narratives are here. Arab mathematician, Alkhawarjmi was the man who derived the symbol of Arabic numerals based on number of angels, like

    • @zzzzz653
      @zzzzz653 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Al Khwarizmi was not Arab but belonged to Khwarizm which is in Central Asia close to Afghanistan. Khwarizmi himself noted in the title of his book itself that the numbers were of Indian origin.

  • @fastertrackcreative
    @fastertrackcreative ปีที่แล้ว

    Hare? I thought it was "I caught a fish alive"?

  • @iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643
    @iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny how this guys says ‘twenny’ instead of ‘twenty’.

  • @David-yw2lv
    @David-yw2lv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What,no viscounts or marquesses?

  • @martinh1277
    @martinh1277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Merchants of the North Mediterranian allways had contact to merchants of the South Mediterranian. The Arabic Numbers arrived in the South and very soon they were in the North.
    You mention Spanish monks and Pope Sylvester important for the transport. That means, what is written, did exist. What is not written, did not exist. Are you sure?
    A cheap medium was necessary to spread letters and numbers. This was paper, invented by the Chinese. You can develope a more plausible theory about spreading numbers and letters if you look at the procedure of writing. This all is a combination of head and hand.

  • @robertsettipane9805
    @robertsettipane9805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you India!

  • @JesusRocksTryPrayin
    @JesusRocksTryPrayin ปีที่แล้ว

    4 cannot be 5, but 5 was 4; but that can't be?!!!??! WHAT EVER HAPPENED?
    nah. 154 comments is about to become 155. it's not very relative to anything is it? or is it? at 845, he says. hmm

  • @mokhtarfassali2817
    @mokhtarfassali2817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not arabic…the are from northafrican not from mesdle east!