I actually like when they talk about themselves in the 3rd person when it comes to world record histories and they're just a part of it. In situations like these it just feels weird like he doesn't want to admit he's the one making the video about a niche topic? It's very strange.
It’s kinda incredible that Camelogical actually released the raw footage, and no one bothered to time it properly. That’s so crazy, he literally provided the smoking gun and no one verified it. It’s especially ridiculous since he could’ve uploaded the raw footage legit and still claimed a defacto world record for several years.
@@hayato... Technically speaking, he DID edit the raw footage, by replacing the big black box with a smaller white box. But I think he was relying on people to focus too much on that part of the video. Or he thought he was toast anyway, and that's why he didn't resubmit the "original footage", cause he knew that when it was timed, he would be found out for sure. At that time, there were only suspicions but no concrete proof, which easily allowed him to keep his TH-cam video up and claim it as the world record.
talking about your runs in the third person is one thing but talking about YOUR OWN VIDEO LMFAOOOOOO i'm losing it bro when speedrun youtubers do this its my favorite bit
I am 99% sure the black/white box was a distraction method. Everyone was so focused on those all these years no one bothered to do the obvious of just timing the run themselves.
what i don't get about camelogical, is even the first time he cheated, it seems like the time he got STILL would have been a record, he just wanted it to be a record by more for some reason. i don't understand why he'd do that when he actually would have had the record anyway. truly bizarre
It’s actually crazy how nobody actually just timed his run to see if it even matched up. However, most likely people were so focused on his system time and the black box that when that didn’t work, everyone was just split. Couple that with the category losing all interest once the servers shut down, and I can see how something like that could be overlooked for so long. It was a meme category after all.
Honestly kinda impressive he had the confidence to post proof of his own cheating as evidence that the run wasn’t cheated just for no one to even notice for 7 years.
whats stupid is editing a box over personal windows wasn't really necessary, at least with discord they could just activate streamer mode to hide personal information. Or, you know, just close those programs while doing the run....
I get why the moderators are reluctant to remove Camelogical's other speedruns as the game is shutdown and it's part of history but he was caught cheating twice so who knows how many more were cheated. It is also a major disrespect to everyone who participated in the speed run by leaving a cheated run among them.
In my opinion, when you get caught cheating once, your run should be disqualified, and you should be held to higher scrutiny for future entries if you want to keep competing in a category, and if you get caught cheating twice, all of your runs, past and present, should be removed, and you should no longer be allowed to compete. I believe in giving people a second chance, but once you catch someone cheating twice, you have to just assume they're always cheating and you just don't usually catch them. All their achievements are suspect.
3am I got work tomorrow, "sees video of some speedruner cheating in Club Penguin ban speedrun" I need to watch this. Barely heard about Club Penguin like 10 years ago tho.
ive watched atleast 5 videos of you now and everytime have zero idea that skilloz is actually the person im watching until the very end you are a genius
Rest in peace to club penguin.. I was born in 1999 and graduated high school in 2017. It seems like that game being shut down closed the chapter of my youth
Perhaps people simply didn't bother to scrutinize the raw footage (beyond focusing on what the black box obstructed previously), given that the run had already been rejected and wasn't resubmitted. I guess it never occurred to anyone that Camelogical performed an unrelated splice - _and_ sloppily failed to recreate it.
Were they really allowed to stay on the leaderboard? If so, that's insane. I could not imagine trusting a leaderboard or community that still has a top time from someone who cheated *multiple runs* and only got caught because they posted the wrong edit.
So I am a bit confused here at 13:56. His other two times are removed for cheating, but the third place time that was cheated is allowed to stand? Not sure I get it.
Absolutely love that in this whole video, this guy is referring to himself in the third person. Especially loved the bit where he went "there's this awesome video you can watch" and it's his own video. I wish I had that level of self love
Going through the effort to put a clip with a handcam only to lazily cut to a clip without one is so much more suspicious than just submitting a run without a handcam lol, gotta wonder what exactly he was trying to accomplish
This is the first video of yours that I watch and it was real good and all, but if you don't mind me asking, why do you refer to yourself in the third person?
That guy has the same background on me as my desktop and I swear my brain did the windows shutdown noise as I tried to process what was happening. 10/10, great video.
I didnt even know this game had a speedeunning community, its just fun to watch videos about ppl who ruined their status because they wanted to "be the best" in what is probably the most niche category in speedrunning as a whole. Like, is he gonna write on his grave "the best club penguin speedrunner"
If he had cut out half a second instead of 4 entire seconds likely nobody would've ever noticed, and he'd be below the readjusted record. He got too greedy. That's hilarious
I'm sorry, but imagine being so pathetic you cheat a win in a meme speed run of a game that's about to be shut down. I can think of nothing sadder, Jesus.
Can we just talk about how a group of adults decided to ironically speedrun club fucking penguin. They a few select degenerates actually decided to cheat I cant
Thanks for making an easy yo understand yet comprehensive video on these faked runs. I think it’s important that everyone in all speedrun communities watch these types of content even if it isn’t in games they might not usually play / watch themselves so we all stay informed on cheating red flags to watch out for. The more cheaters that get exposed the harder it is to cheat.
This is like the spaceuk situation in geometry dash. It starts with a top player who seems to be miles ahead of the competition, coasts for years, then gets exposed for cheating in the most blatantly obvious manner.
You earned my sub for attention to detail and your return to this subject… I do want say though speaking of yourself in the third person is a little bit.. outside the style guide.
It would be so I assume the video must’ve started just before it ticked over, or something along those lines. They would’ve reliably timed it from a point where the milliseconds were known.
Bro was trying to do Banned% Banned%
banned from banned%
Gets last place for taking 7 years
haha how clever, you copied that one reddit comment shown in the video
He actually managed to confuse me again talking about Skilloz in 3rd person...
Bro talks more about himself in 3rd person than The Buolder from Avatar the Last Airbender
I actually like when they talk about themselves in the 3rd person when it comes to world record histories and they're just a part of it. In situations like these it just feels weird like he doesn't want to admit he's the one making the video about a niche topic? It's very strange.
It’s what you like to call “clout”
@@UnknownParallelbruh no, its not. calm down
I don't know the guy, the video got recommended to me, so I see no difference in the video's sense by that
Cheated himself out of a WR... wow
and cheated in the most amateur way possible 💀
He still has the wr on the website
They have a WR in this game. Thats crazy. I thought this was just a game the kids played to chat with each other back in the day.
@@Mikesusendsadasdc you should actually watch the video
8p@@Mikesusendsadasdc
It’s kinda incredible that Camelogical actually released the raw footage, and no one bothered to time it properly. That’s so crazy, he literally provided the smoking gun and no one verified it. It’s especially ridiculous since he could’ve uploaded the raw footage legit and still claimed a defacto world record for several years.
The thing is he could have still edited the "raw" footage and no one would have noticed
@@hayato... Technically speaking, he DID edit the raw footage, by replacing the big black box with a smaller white box. But I think he was relying on people to focus too much on that part of the video. Or he thought he was toast anyway, and that's why he didn't resubmit the "original footage", cause he knew that when it was timed, he would be found out for sure. At that time, there were only suspicions but no concrete proof, which easily allowed him to keep his TH-cam video up and claim it as the world record.
I like how theres so many mentions of skilloz but never says its him
a researcher never uses first person always speaks in third person
i wonder why though? i feel like skilloz would have a much more unique perspective if he used himself instead of a 1:1 summoning salt format
@@loafzero its kinda cool imho i think its just a creative selection or maybe the narrator is someone other than him
@@scoup9168 ah good to know
I saw your comment and was really confused what you meant until I read the channel name 10 minutes later lol
This Skilloz guy sounds pretty cool. You should collab with him some day
unfortunately, 2 cannot exist in the same universe :
Lmao
Yeah
@@lightserpent4655:c
He said one of the most famous meme speedruns of all time "Says holding the WR" lmao
talking about your runs in the third person is one thing but talking about YOUR OWN VIDEO LMFAOOOOOO i'm losing it bro when speedrun youtubers do this its my favorite bit
NAHHHH NOT HIM TALKING ABOUT HIMSELF IN THIRD PERSON IN A DISCORD MESSAGE
@@mayac4147 he has a hint of the burgers and a dash of the tism
i was literally so confused for a bit. Like is this not you😭
What other speedrunners talk to themselves in third person besides him and msushi?
@@bored_person Summoningsalt
I am 99% sure the black/white box was a distraction method. Everyone was so focused on those all these years no one bothered to do the obvious of just timing the run themselves.
Almost a smart idea. I mean it DID work for a while
It's incredible how this guy still hasn't been removed from the leaderboard.
I really hope these moderators aren’t a part of any other speedrun moderation efforts, the level of apathy is insane
@@PorcuDuckSlug the run really isnt serious at all lmfao
@@michaelepica3564 you could use that logic with any speedrun. if its not that serious why speedrun at all? why cheat?
@@silkymoths Maybe because this leaderboard is impossible to attain nowadays and most likely the mods have way more important things to do.
@@michaelepica3564 then it'd be an easy fix for them to remove his name :)
Thanks for the recap of the previous Skilloz video, Skilloz
This guy deserves a full leaderboard ban. Cheating a world record puts all pf your prior speedruns into question, making you untrustworthy.
Yeah, I always filter for runners with some significant physical evidence, for example mouse/kb sounds, and more
I mean, it IS the banned% speed run... was he trying to get banned from it?
what i don't get about camelogical, is even the first time he cheated, it seems like the time he got STILL would have been a record, he just wanted it to be a record by more for some reason. i don't understand why he'd do that when he actually would have had the record anyway. truly bizarre
"Skilloz this Skilloz that." He won't fuck you bro...
He can't fuck himself😂
Well duh you can’t have ### with yourself
@@jdh9419 yuh
@@jdh9419 what the fuck is masturbation then (to be clear this is lighthearted/meant as a joke)
This guy knows alot about Skilloz. Im worried we have a stalker on our hands
Skilloz talking in third person is hilarious
It’s actually crazy how nobody actually just timed his run to see if it even matched up. However, most likely people were so focused on his system time and the black box that when that didn’t work, everyone was just split. Couple that with the category losing all interest once the servers shut down, and I can see how something like that could be overlooked for so long. It was a meme category after all.
Honestly kinda impressive he had the confidence to post proof of his own cheating as evidence that the run wasn’t cheated just for no one to even notice for 7 years.
whats stupid is editing a box over personal windows wasn't really necessary, at least with discord they could just activate streamer mode to hide personal information.
Or, you know, just close those programs while doing the run....
i dont think streamer mode had come out yet when the original video was made
It hadn't, don't worry. This dumbass didn't read the 7 years ago part.
9:19 Look Gary, there I am!
I totally called it
that skilloz guy is pretty cool for for verifying all this, you should interview them
I have JUST rewatched your banned% video and 30 minutes later here I am!
forgetaboutme really not living up to his name by being an absolute legend
Getting banned after 7 years is really not that fast. It's a wonder he had world record.
I get why the moderators are reluctant to remove Camelogical's other speedruns as the game is shutdown and it's part of history but he was caught cheating twice so who knows how many more were cheated. It is also a major disrespect to everyone who participated in the speed run by leaving a cheated run among them.
Well he cheated the 3rd place run with the email time, but I guess it is fine since it isn't a WR.
Another great video buddy, great build and quality content. And also thank you for using and crediting my remixes, cheers!
That's crazy, like it's so glaringly obvious it's amazing how no one noticed this before but I guess that's easy to say in hindsight
Dud spliced and showed the original unspluced version
I respect that
Who would of thought that camelogical was speed running 2 banned% runs this whole time
In my opinion, when you get caught cheating once, your run should be disqualified, and you should be held to higher scrutiny for future entries if you want to keep competing in a category, and if you get caught cheating twice, all of your runs, past and present, should be removed, and you should no longer be allowed to compete. I believe in giving people a second chance, but once you catch someone cheating twice, you have to just assume they're always cheating and you just don't usually catch them. All their achievements are suspect.
3am I got work tomorrow, "sees video of some speedruner cheating in Club Penguin ban speedrun"
I need to watch this.
Barely heard about Club Penguin like 10 years ago tho.
Now this is the follow up video I wanted
ive watched atleast 5 videos of you now and everytime have zero idea that skilloz is actually the person im watching until the very end you are a genius
I literally watched your banned% video less than 24 hours ago! Insane
Great vid as always Skilloz! Keep killing it man.
This is where the fun begins
Delete your comment so I can be first
@@madcityguy4238 If you need to ask, then you don't deserve it
@@StUCabooseyou just ratio'd urseflf
@@DamTay_13 Let them come
your pfp vaguely looks like a penguin from club penguin lol
Club Penguin: I got a meme speedrun category you can't beat.
Plumbers Don't Wear Ties: Let my introduce you to "Gay%"
Hello I watched the other video of this and I didn't know you were skilloz😂
how did skilloz do this? -skilloz
Rest in peace to club penguin.. I was born in 1999 and graduated high school in 2017. It seems like that game being shut down closed the chapter of my youth
Real but I’m a year younger.
This is one of those things where it’s questionable how nobody found this. This seems like the most obvious thing to do
Perhaps people simply didn't bother to scrutinize the raw footage (beyond focusing on what the black box obstructed previously), given that the run had already been rejected and wasn't resubmitted. I guess it never occurred to anyone that Camelogical performed an unrelated splice - _and_ sloppily failed to recreate it.
Love the blue yourself cameo, great vid :P
I initially thought this was an april fools joke.
Were they really allowed to stay on the leaderboard? If so, that's insane. I could not imagine trusting a leaderboard or community that still has a top time from someone who cheated *multiple runs* and only got caught because they posted the wrong edit.
Hey I saw your fnaf vids!
He cheated twice and his 3rd place record hasn't been deleted? It would make more sense if it was lower down but it's 3rd place?!
Yeah. I don't get why they got rid of the other cheated runs, but not the 3rd place cheated run. You can't get an email from the future.
This whole time im thinking "Wow this isnt skilloz? I must subscribe."
This is so shameful. If he hadnt cheated, then Skilloz probably wouldnt have retimed the other run, so he would just have the WR forever
imagine being such a loser where you’d feel the need to cheat at a club penguin speed run
So I am a bit confused here at 13:56. His other two times are removed for cheating, but the third place time that was cheated is allowed to stand? Not sure I get it.
I just yesterday watched the banned% video yesterday and this came out. Nice video though love the editing!
Wow, new video. I watched you even before SummoningSalt and your chanell got me into watching speedruns.
We need a new speedrun about getting banned from speedrunning leaderboards
Absolutely love that in this whole video, this guy is referring to himself in the third person. Especially loved the bit where he went "there's this awesome video you can watch" and it's his own video. I wish I had that level of self love
New speedrun- Leaderboard ban%
I came here directly from your other one and this has captured more of my interest than football ever did.
Going through the effort to put a clip with a handcam only to lazily cut to a clip without one is so much more suspicious than just submitting a run without a handcam lol, gotta wonder what exactly he was trying to accomplish
“After watching Skilloz’s video…” Skilloz says, as if he, himself, is not Skilloz.
This is the first video of yours that I watch and it was real good and all, but if you don't mind me asking, why do you refer to yourself in the third person?
Probably tradition. Summoning salt, and Karl Jobst do it too.
And it's funny because people get thrown off when they just click on the video without looking at who posted it
everytime someone comments this, i just imagine the spiderman pointing at himself meme
@@pkobaltNot sure if Karl jobst does it, but I'm pretty sure that Salt uses first person in his punch out vids
@@Running_Colours ye i rememeber salt did it in his punch out video and it actually gav me a surprised pikachu face initially.
The game was brought back from the dead but Banned% was not brought back so this speedrun category is forever dead.
Thank god, its just saying bad words in a kids game % kind of weird
I watched the whole video without realising you ARE SKILLOZ
Bro said "I too am extraordinarily humble"
The actual funny part is that literally NO ONE watched the raw footage closely enough for 7 YEARS
I just watched that video yesterday and was scrolling the comments thinking I should check up on any updates later. Then totally forgot
Okay skilloz, you got me. I pressed the sub button. Been watching too many videos of you without doing it
That guy has the same background on me as my desktop and I swear my brain did the windows shutdown noise as I tried to process what was happening. 10/10, great video.
I didnt even know this game had a speedeunning community, its just fun to watch videos about ppl who ruined their status because they wanted to "be the best" in what is probably the most niche category in speedrunning as a whole. Like, is he gonna write on his grave "the best club penguin speedrunner"
Where did you go? Please come back!
I will! I've got lots of plans for 2025. Life just got busy for me for the second half of 2024.
for him to now be a strafer is insane, talked to the dude some times years ago when he had world records on some maps on bhop
finally the curtain have closed
yet another anticipated video from skilloz. more speed run ban videos please!! 😊
thanks to that Skilloz person for providing such great service to the community, wonder where he is now...
9:06 why does blud talk about himself in the 3rd person
This is actually insane.
I've been playing Club Penguin Imagined to get my Club Penguin fix lately; very very fun.
Is getting banned from the Banned% leaderboard some kind of meta-speedrun? If so, 7 years seems pretty slow 🙃
Fr tho lol
3:33 bahviour
I wondered if this had to do with that same guy, good on the detective for finding that smoking gun!
I miss club penguin. What is the most active CPPS right now ?
new club penguin i think, not sure since i haven't really used private servers for like a year. but last time i did, that was the most popular.
you know what, cheating at club penguin is the least bad thing people have been caught doing in association with club penguin
If he had cut out half a second instead of 4 entire seconds likely nobody would've ever noticed, and he'd be below the readjusted record. He got too greedy. That's hilarious
I'm sorry, but imagine being so pathetic you cheat a win in a meme speed run of a game that's about to be shut down. I can think of nothing sadder, Jesus.
Can we just talk about how a group of adults decided to ironically speedrun club fucking penguin. They a few select degenerates actually decided to cheat I cant
You mean unironically
love how he says skilloz instead of himself
This situation is almost 1 years old but can you cover the SpaceUK hacking scandal from Geometry Dash (GD).
No
@@BlissBee aw mayunnn :(
why did he splice full 4 secs? just splice 1 sec and nobody would have noticed, maybe
man that skilloz guy, i wonder where i can find his channel
14:45 Bro that one was the worst LOL
Who is the narrator here? It's clearly not Skilloz.
Thanks for making an easy yo understand yet comprehensive video on these faked runs.
I think it’s important that everyone in all speedrun communities watch these types of content even if it isn’t in games they might not usually play / watch themselves so we all stay informed on cheating red flags to watch out for.
The more cheaters that get exposed the harder it is to cheat.
3:32 there should be a speedrun category of getting your speedrun banned XD
The amount of time i fucking took until i noticed YOU are skilloz 😭
This is like the spaceuk situation in geometry dash. It starts with a top player who seems to be miles ahead of the competition, coasts for years, then gets exposed for cheating in the most blatantly obvious manner.
I’ve watched a lot of speedruns but club penguin is one I’ve never considered. Miss it so much, sucks that this even happened :/
4:12 shout out to Canada for bigsexyricky. Hope he’s doing well for himself there.
This comment from Chris Roen says the Skilloz video about Forgetaboutme discovering Camelogical was good
Why does he talk in third person?
"Skilloz" he says. But it's you? You're Skilloz?
Now, where is the hero of the day himself?
he was late to comment but he is up there now saying "hey im famous." lol
He should interview this skilos guy.
I don’t know who that Skilloz guy is, but he sounds awesome
You earned my sub for attention to detail and your return to this subject… I do want say though speaking of yourself in the third person is a little bit.. outside the style guide.
The clock changing from 00:00 to 00:01 in 59 seconds is possible if the recording starts at 00:00.01 though...
It would be so I assume the video must’ve started just before it ticked over, or something along those lines. They would’ve reliably timed it from a point where the milliseconds were known.
The clock is on the previous minute when the recording starts, and so we see the shortened minute in its entirety
I'm just glad that Club Penguin actually means Club Penguin for once lol