Bravo. It’s especially delicious how she deconstructed the psychology of Wokeness specifically with the ideas of Eric Fromm, who was a member of the Frankfurt school and early proponent of Critical Theory- the very wellspring that woke ideology grew out of.
I found Maral on only your podcast on spodify. Thank you. I would love to hear her in a long form discussion. I've listened to many on the subject of woke, and ideological purity, and certitude. I've been looking at it from a sadist/masochist lense. She is the first that I've found to elucidate, and speak to their moral sadism. The ideologues are blinded by certitude, communal narcessisim, and cluster B personality disorders. They lack meaning, and purpose in life, they seek shelter in a refuge of vacuity, and are educated in the academic halls of orthodoxy, and exhalted imbicility. God help us all. They are eroding hope, and humanity. Fundamentalism can easily tilt towards militant fundamentalism. We are closer to (un)civil war, than many are willing to admit. Thanks Stephanie love your podcast!!
I mean, I would understand it if these people were saying "I know that I would be persecuted and killed in Palestine, but that doesn't change the fact that what I see happening there is wrong". The purple-hair brigade who think every issue they support has the same ideals they do are delusional, though. They'd be carried through the streets shoulder-high in triumph, but not for the reasons they think.
I don't think they believe Hamas has the exact same ideals. The point is to be anti-hegemonic. They see a group which opposes Western values of free thought, and find common cause. They also hate real women and believe they should shut up or be forced to, which is why female progressives identify as non-women. Also they want the government to pay for gender reassignment surgery, as in Iran.
It's one thing to hold Israel to high standards of conduct in warfare (although the double standard is extreme). It's another thing to imagine that the Middle East would be a safer and freer place if Hamas won the war. Let alone to rationalize that the atrocities of Oct 7 were justified or defensible.
Most people would rather be thought well of by their peers than actually be good. This might be the master game-able weakness. When we "lower the temperature", people feel more free to think about what's actually right, rather than chanting whatever slogan helps them keep their jobs and their friends for another day.
@@meisherenow The societal zeitgeist, style over substance. More than ever, it's not about being virtuous, it's the perception of seeming virtuous. You no longer need to be someone of substance, you only need to present an avatar. The Vacuous, searching for something to fill that vacuum, in their minds, and their souls.
The Woke is getting so much coverage on social and mainstream media that it creates this gnawing feeling of doom and hopelessness, especially with their sickening (and completely counter-intuitive) adoption of Islamic/Nazi rhetoric. Which makes finding videos like yours an even greater source of comfort and relief - there's still reason and critical thinking in the world. Thank you.
The point that self identification is open to obvious abuse from predatory people should be sufficient to counter the madness and I've been surprised that this point doesn't seem to have been made all that often. Arguing from a scientific point of view that a person's sex is biological and not a lifestyle choice should also be enough, but I can see now why it isn't.
Hi Stephanie, thanks for posting this. I recently wrote an article for the Genspect substack (Gender Affirming Care is a Social Engineering Attack) which covered similar terrain, including Operation Spanner and the Liberty Five. Your comments on that article would be appreciated. As well as the psychological, I believe there is a historical factor. In the 1980s, progressives supported the ANC in South Africa despite its murders of opponents. Palestine is the new South Africa, which is why words like apartheid get applied to Israel even though the situation is not a direct analogy. It goes back to the Cold War; whichever side hates white people also hates the West, and that's the side which progressive masochists will simp for.
As a non-white person, I detest the anti-white movement; it's the new systematic racism. This woke virus as a whole, has infected social media, movies, series', video games, the workplace, and most frighteningly, education.
Just wow… I have been arguing with a friend who is a social scientist and she does not believe anything I say about cluster B. I have listened to a lot of professor Sam Vaknin. Any recommendations for others? Any published studies that support what she has to say in this video?
The sadomasochism arguments might prove too much. Most people are motivated to sacrifice their immediate self-interest to satisfy their sense of justice. It's why civilized people refrain from stealing, even if they can get away with it. Without that impulse, society breaks down. You might argue that this is not self-sacrifice so much as it is sacrificing short-run self-interest for long-run self-interest. But the mechanism by which you not stealing with impunity benefits you in the long-run is at least as murky as the mechanism by which you not reporting black crime benefits you in the long-run. In both cases, the aim is to contribute to a better world, which will somehow create an ROI. To me, the simpler explanation for Queers for Palestine is that there is no paradox; the ideology sorts people into powerful oppressors and powerless oppressed, where the oppressor can do no right and the oppressed can do no wrong. As the weaker of the two factions, the Palestinians are oppressed and can do no wrong.
Solidarity isn't transactional. A number of evangelicals support Israel even though what they're trying to acheive is Christ returning and that's not in Jews' interest but I don't see Zionists calling foul on these evangelical Christians.
Framing Queer activism as misguided would be better. Attributing psychological associations (due to historical context) is unlikely to solicit any serious engagement
Wow. Are you questioning her English? It’s better than yours...careful! Don’t be condescending. Yes, it’s dense because it was in writing first. Hay que abrir los ojos, gente.
She did not feel condescended to when I pointed out that her work is all the more impressive because it’s her second or third language and this also explains why she feels more comfortable writing it out first. No need to go insulting me out of protectiveness toward someone who herself is doing just fine.
I love her points, I hope she can come on again to have a longer conversation
Bravo. It’s especially delicious how she deconstructed the psychology of Wokeness specifically with the ideas of Eric Fromm, who was a member of the Frankfurt school and early proponent of Critical Theory- the very wellspring that woke ideology grew out of.
This video popping up in my Algorithm is a prescient and timely gift.
I found Maral on only your podcast on spodify. Thank you.
I would love to hear her in a long form discussion. I've listened to many on the subject of woke, and ideological purity, and certitude.
I've been looking at it from a sadist/masochist lense.
She is the first that I've found to elucidate, and speak to their moral sadism.
The ideologues are blinded by certitude, communal narcessisim, and cluster B personality disorders. They lack meaning, and purpose in life, they seek shelter in a refuge of vacuity, and are educated in the academic halls of orthodoxy, and exhalted imbicility.
God help us all.
They are eroding hope, and humanity. Fundamentalism can easily tilt towards militant fundamentalism.
We are closer to (un)civil war, than many are willing to admit.
Thanks Stephanie love your podcast!!
I mean, I would understand it if these people were saying "I know that I would be persecuted and killed in Palestine, but that doesn't change the fact that what I see happening there is wrong".
The purple-hair brigade who think every issue they support has the same ideals they do are delusional, though. They'd be carried through the streets shoulder-high in triumph, but not for the reasons they think.
I don't think they believe Hamas has the exact same ideals. The point is to be anti-hegemonic. They see a group which opposes Western values of free thought, and find common cause. They also hate real women and believe they should shut up or be forced to, which is why female progressives identify as non-women. Also they want the government to pay for gender reassignment surgery, as in Iran.
I always call them the Gender Gestapo. In my mother language it nicely alliterates.
It's one thing to hold Israel to high standards of conduct in warfare (although the double standard is extreme). It's another thing to imagine that the Middle East would be a safer and freer place if Hamas won the war. Let alone to rationalize that the atrocities of Oct 7 were justified or defensible.
That is exactly what we in " the purple haired brigade" are saying. Exactly
This is SO spot on.
"Parasitic mind" by prof. Gaad Saad
Accidentally came across your channel and this video....
Brilliant !
Thank you.
Most people would rather be thought well of by their peers than actually be good. This might be the master game-able weakness. When we "lower the temperature", people feel more free to think about what's actually right, rather than chanting whatever slogan helps them keep their jobs and their friends for another day.
@@meisherenow
The societal zeitgeist, style over substance. More than ever, it's not about being virtuous, it's the perception of seeming virtuous.
You no longer need to be someone of substance, you only need to present an avatar.
The Vacuous, searching for something to fill that vacuum, in their minds, and their souls.
@@dtybur10precisely! Well said.
Thank you Maral for your wise words ❤🙏
WOW. First time I've ever come across your channel. Immediate subscribe. Fantastic work.
Welcome aboard!
This is absolutely fascinating.
Loved it, interesting as usual! the poem was sweet too ^^ ❤
The Woke is getting so much coverage on social and mainstream media that it creates this gnawing feeling of doom and hopelessness, especially with their sickening (and completely counter-intuitive) adoption of Islamic/Nazi rhetoric. Which makes finding videos like yours an even greater source of comfort and relief - there's still reason and critical thinking in the world. Thank you.
Waking-up lol. Very interesting podcast. Happy to see human intelligence regaining its rights after so much madness and damage. Keep-on the good work.
Thanks, Stephanie. ❤❤😎😎
Very interesting, complex but understandable, thank you and well done.
The point that self identification is open to obvious abuse from predatory people should be sufficient to counter the madness and I've been surprised that this point doesn't seem to have been made all that often. Arguing from a scientific point of view that a person's sex is biological and not a lifestyle choice should also be enough, but I can see now why it isn't.
Excellent points from both women.
Hi Stephanie, thanks for posting this. I recently wrote an article for the Genspect substack (Gender Affirming Care is a Social Engineering Attack) which covered similar terrain, including Operation Spanner and the Liberty Five. Your comments on that article would be appreciated.
As well as the psychological, I believe there is a historical factor. In the 1980s, progressives supported the ANC in South Africa despite its murders of opponents. Palestine is the new South Africa, which is why words like apartheid get applied to Israel even though the situation is not a direct analogy.
It goes back to the Cold War; whichever side hates white people also hates the West, and that's the side which progressive masochists will simp for.
As a non-white person, I detest the anti-white movement; it's the new systematic racism. This woke virus as a whole, has infected social media, movies, series', video games, the workplace, and most frighteningly, education.
Just wow… I have been arguing with a friend who is a social scientist and she does not believe anything I say about cluster B. I have listened to a lot of professor Sam Vaknin. Any recommendations for others? Any published studies that support what she has to say in this video?
How Minds Change - David McRaney
@@Knight766 thank you!
The sadomasochism arguments might prove too much. Most people are motivated to sacrifice their immediate self-interest to satisfy their sense of justice. It's why civilized people refrain from stealing, even if they can get away with it. Without that impulse, society breaks down. You might argue that this is not self-sacrifice so much as it is sacrificing short-run self-interest for long-run self-interest. But the mechanism by which you not stealing with impunity benefits you in the long-run is at least as murky as the mechanism by which you not reporting black crime benefits you in the long-run. In both cases, the aim is to contribute to a better world, which will somehow create an ROI.
To me, the simpler explanation for Queers for Palestine is that there is no paradox; the ideology sorts people into powerful oppressors and powerless oppressed, where the oppressor can do no right and the oppressed can do no wrong. As the weaker of the two factions, the Palestinians are oppressed and can do no wrong.
How's this going to work then - Do they send messages's saying Hello Hammas - Here is my bottom for you to thrash?? They're weird
Excellent
Dostoevsky , rest in peace, with "crime and punishment", compared to those people.
What episode do you speak about TIPP , you mentioned this at the end
With Dr. Elliot Kaminetzky
I still don't understand why your subs are so low. I don't get it
The tyranny of nice.
Chicken for KFC ! Lol..
The Colonel was right...
Solidarity isn't transactional. A number of evangelicals support Israel even though what they're trying to acheive is Christ returning and that's not in Jews' interest but I don't see Zionists calling foul on these evangelical Christians.
100% and it's so simple. Yet these people think they're making some brilliant point. Such a bubble they live in.
Beggars can't be choosers.
What is the paradox?
We must encourage this and that ... Its all wishful thinking.
Chickens for KFC
Framing Queer activism as misguided would be better. Attributing psychological associations (due to historical context) is unlikely to solicit any serious engagement
I see you’re new here. Welcome to my channel, where we address cultural issues through a psychological lens. It may not be right for you.
Wow. Are you questioning her English? It’s better than yours...careful! Don’t be condescending. Yes, it’s dense because it was in writing first. Hay que abrir los ojos, gente.
She did not feel condescended to when I pointed out that her work is all the more impressive because it’s her second or third language and this also explains why she feels more comfortable writing it out first. No need to go insulting me out of protectiveness toward someone who herself is doing just fine.
She only mentioned her accent, not the level of her English.