For one, we can't keep doing Endgame level stuff all the time, that's how you get major burnout. Gotta rebuild to that with smaller moments for a grand finale to it all. Another thing, Agatha All Along not got great reviews, it's viewership actually increased as it went along, which is something that doesn't happen as much as you think. Also, for Jen, there are MANY Hulk characters, and Grey Hulk is the original version of comic The Hulk (because coloring in comics was hard back in then), and leter became his own personality. Movie is gonna touch on some of that 50 years of Hulk content.
Is it just me or am I so tired of everybody comparing everything damn thing to endgame? It happened already. It's not gonna happen again. So let it go and move on. That's it.
Well when you set the bar that high, you better aim to trying to maintain it. Why do you think they cast RDJ as Dr Doom? They're trying to recapture those endgame moments for Doomsday and Secret wars
Well yeah they will never reach those heights, although Infinity War was a better film for me...Yes MCU has been a bit of mess, no real direction and some poor writing but im an MCU fan and i think they can bounce back. Bring on 2025..
i was genuinely surprised and very impressed with agatha all along. that one of the least watched shows stat is also false. it is extremely well casted, acted, and produced. I really think you guys should watch it. the last few episodes actually give you what I think is valuable information for the coming stories.
So much this. Most of the projects have been fine. The only ones I thought were terrible or weak were Secret Invasion, Quantumania and She-Hulk. But other than that and some rushed Disney+ MCU shows, I think its been mostly consistent and fine. Not overly terrible like every youtube critic and hate-filled video would have you believe.
@@japanesegerSay what u want about She Hulk but Agatha was good. Idk what to tell u Deadpool and wolverine did good too. Not most of the things from phase 4-5 were garbage as u claimed
@@japaneseger Most of Phase 4 and 5 has been consistent. You said ratings don't lie? Well than its been pretty damn good with the exception of Secret Invasion and She-Hulk. WV - C92%/A88% TFATWS - C85%/A81% LS - C87%/A86% BW - C79%/91% WI? - C89%/A79% SC - C92%/A98% E - C47%/A77% HE - C92%/A88% SMNWH - C93%/97% MK - C86%/88% DSITMOM - C74%/A85% MS - C98%/A80% TLAT - C63%/A76% IAG - C89%/A76% SH - C79%/A32% WBN - C90%/A88% BPWF - C84%/A94% TGOTGHS - C94%/A81% AMATWQ - C46%/A82% GOTGV3 - C82%/A94% SI - C52%/A44% TM - C62%/A81% E - C70%/A60% AAA - C84%/A83% Yeh, clearly going by these ratings that don't lie, the MCU is truly cooked.
I saw theories that they are using Tiamut's body as the way to introduce adamantium to mcu by being mined from him of course. and that is why Sam has a different suit in the 2nd half, it is an adamantium one instead of the vibranium.
Personally I hated that show. I thought the first half of the finale was the best part of the show and that was it. I don’t really get the hype around that show honestly.
William Hurt was an avid comic book reader and collector. He said in an interview once that one of the main reasons he took the role of Thunderbolt Ross was specifically to play Red Hulk in the future. It was sad that he didn't get that opportunity.
@@ready2ryde71. BP2 handed said death good for what the cast/crew was going through and made it as a tribute to their friend 2. You're upset over a mustache. Be for real. It is not that deep nor is it "comparable" to what u thought about said thing with BP2. Acting like that "We hate this person, so we're going to make a nod about the replacement that means absolutely NOTHING" It's a whole nothing burger about the character or its pervious actor but yet you're upset😂😂😂
Kevin feige lost is control for 2yrs and now that the head of Disney is back he finally got his control back which was a huge problem for the slippage of marvel
So in comics the first Hulk was a fuzzy alien, then the first color Hulk that Banner turned into was Grey then Green and these are different personalities within Banners mind. As for colours there’s been all sorts really, a blue Abomination, a blue Hulk, a black Hulk, a purple Hulk etc as well as different characters as Hulk e.g. Spider Hulk, Cyclops Hulk, Thor Hulk etc
This is a list of every Coloured/Colored Hulks and who played them. -Green Hulks: Bruce Banner, Jennifer Walters, Amadeus Cho and Todd Phelps (She Hulk serious) -Gray Hulk: (aka Gangsta Hulk) Bruce Banner and Joe Fixit -Red Hulk: Thaddeus E. Ross and Betty Ross (Bruce's love interest) -Purple Hulk: Norman Osborn -Orange Hulk: Solar Hulk -Blue Balls... I mean Hulk: Captain Universe -Brown Hulk: Devil Hulk -Black Hulk: Kluh
Rotten Tomato Ratings for those wondering about Phase 4 and 5. For the most part its been positive. Its had a few hits and misses, very few in fact and even some of the Critic and Audience scores are mixed for the most part. To say the MCU has been crap or dead/dying after Endgame is a lie. Critic and Audience Scores below and my Personal Opinions. WandaVision - C92%/A88% (GOOD) TFATWS - C85%/A81% (GOOD) Loki Series - C87%/A86% (GREAT) Black Widow - C79%/91% (GOOD) What If...? Series - C89%/A79% (DECENT) Shang-Chi - C92%/A98% (GREAT) Eternals - C47%/A77% (GOOD) Hawkeye - C92%/A88% (GOOD) Spider-Man No Way Home - C93%/97% (OKAY and Overrated) Moon Knight - C86%/88% (GOOD) Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - C74%/A85% (GOOD) Ms. Marvel - C98%/A80% (DECENT) Thor Love and Thunder - C63%/A76% (DECENT) I am Groot Series - C89%/A76% She-Hulk - C79%/A32% (TRASH) Werewolf By Night - C90%/A88% (GREAT) Black Panther Wakanda Forever - C84%/A94% (GOOD) The GOTG Holiday Special - C94%/A81% (GOOD) AMATW Quantumania - C46%/A82% (TRASH) GOTGV3 - C82%/A94% (GREAT) Secret Invasion - C52%/A44% (TRASH) The Marvels - C62%/A81% (DECENT) Echo - C70%/A60% (DECENT) Agatha All Along - C84%/A83% (GREAT) X-Men 97 - C99%/A92% (GREAT) People cry the MCU has been bad since Engame but going from the scores alone its been fine (With the big exception of Secret Invasion which I think most everyone agrees was the worst project by far compared to the others.) Phase 1-3 wasn't perfect either and had its fair share of meh projects that people look back on and think are good now. The same is true here.
It is. It had a very niche audience and it can never justify a season 2. A small group making big noise on social media doesn't show what reality was for the show. It probably didn't even do acolyte numbers which was the worst viewed star wars show and got canncelled
Agatha All Along was what? Don't listen to what people are saying about any of these shows and movies. Watch them for yourselves and then form your opinion. That's why we love you guys. Keep up the great work.
@@tonybeltran4366 Thunderbolts still looks good tho. Mind u that it's being made with the creatives of Netflix's Beef and FX's The Bear. So I don't understand of what makes it bad of what they're doing
It’s my understanding that Grey Hulk originated from Marvel’s real world printing error. Stan Lee later explained the gray color in the comics. Gray Hulk also known as Joe Fixit is another personality of Bruce Banner and a result of different levels of gamma radiation.
Great reaction as always and I agree with your main point that Marvel needs to prove that they can consistently produce great movies again. Regarding the comment that the Marvel TV Series was one of the main problems, let's do a little scorecard: Good = WandaVision, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki Seasons 1 & 2, What IF Seasons 1 & 2, Hawkeye. OK maybe Good = Moon Knight. Poor = Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion. Overall = 7 out of 11 shows considered Good. Almost all TV Studios would give anything for that success.
I will say, Agatha All Along was shockingly good. I’d say it was the best MCU Disney+ show. And that’s coming from someone who didn’t like WandaVision, didn’t like Agatha prior to the show, and thought the show was going to be a waste of money and time.
Agatha all along’s viewership has already surpassed Loki. It’s a surprise that the unwanted show would turn out to be this good. You should watch it, Holden. 😊
I’m hopeful. I really liked the trailer. I enjoy the more “ground level” Marvel. ie., Captain America Winter Soldier, Black Widow, Falcon and the Winter soldier. Hopefully this delivers on that successfully.
I said it before and I'll say it again...I think the core reason for so much disappointment since Phase 4 began, comes from people thinking everything post-Endgame needed to be at Endgame levels, instead of understanding that Phase 4 was the Phase 1 of a new arc and things had to be built back up again, leading into the next major payoff...which we now know is Doomsday and Secret Wars...and people veil this lack of understanding with "everything Marvel does now sucks!", and it's just not true. Since 2008, there has been ONE single property to come out in the MCU that I outright didn't like...and it came out recently. The Marvels...and that's only because, other than Iman Vellani looking like she was having the time of her life, the movie felt passionless. I obviously like certain things more than others...but the MCU has been fine. Sloppy maybe, but it's not that disjointed when you actually pay attention (everything has been leading to the citizen's mistrust of Superheroes). Marvel maybe went a little too complex in its attempt to create that branching story that ultimately leads to one point where it all comes together (Secret Wars), as opposed to how mostly linear the first three phases were. But the ride in Phases 4 and 5 have still been a lot of fun, and I really hate how people have just expected something they didn't get, and now act like Marvel is ruined.
That's one thing I don't like about alot of marvel fans is everyone expects everything to be endgame level from now on. Remember that took 10 years of build up. After that it's going to build up again to end with secret wars. These movies are all a build up and will come together for that big movie.
I thought the Marvel's was actually pretty good. Maybe it was the low expectations, but i was entertained. I think it's worth noting that a lot of the lesser MCU content since Endgame was under the management of Bob Chapek who demanded quantity over quality and this cause Feige to be stretched too thin to ensure the quality we have come to expect. Since Iger returned a little over a year ago now, the spigot has been dialed down and quality has been reasserting itself. The last few releases seem to confirm this. So I think the future is bright again.
Cmon holden, those fans disliking she hulk and marvels aren't Stragglers. They were true fans who had more Important things to do with their time. I chose to watch nerdrotic and mauler reviews on mcu since I dropped mcu after wakanda forever
It seems like an attempt to recapture the feel of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I'm looking forward to it. Holden, I would like to see you review The Marvel's. Though it's not one of the best outings, it's not a dumpster fire and I believe a lot of the poor reviews are because of issues with Brie Larson (as a person, not her acting).
Hey guys, fan of the channel..i get it man, MCU has not been great for a while and ur not missing much with those shows and movies u missed but Agatha all Along was excellent and i had zero interest in watching it, only watched as a friend said it was a pretty decent, wud definitely recommend..Im trying to b positive, they have 4 movies and 3 live action shows next year and i think they look pretty good..At least with the footage we hav seen😊
i would love to see you guys watch agatha and the other marvel stuff the marvels isnt as bad as people say in my opinion and neither was secret wars tbh
And Blade is still getting made. With Kang what's done is done. All we can do is move forward and hope for the best cuz the majority of these projects are promising
I highly recommend Agatha, and I know yall weren’t too hot on Ms. Marvel, but if you like Kamala then you’ll enjoy The Marvels. Plus Monica continues from WandaVision! Since I’m basically asking for stuff already, might as well throw in that Transformers One is great.
If you're gonna go back and watch what you missed. Honestly just skip Secret Invasion. The Marvels wasn't nearly as bad as everyone else was making it out to be.
People really claim the multiverse stuff is worn out atp and I’m so confused. All the bad products post endgame were the non multiverse related stuff. Secret invasion, the marvels, Agatha all along, ms marvel, she hulk, etc. All non multiverse related and all shit. The good plots all revolve around the multiverse. Loki season 1 and 2 were good, no way home was good, multiverse of madness may not have been absolute peak cinema but definitely better than non multiverse stuff
That's your opinion and not all non multiverse related projects were shit as u claimed. Alot of people like most of them than others. Like if u really wanna talk about recently, Agatha is doing good with most of the fandom and is rated higher than Loki S2. So idk what to tell u
@ ofc my opinion but just judging based on how the shows I listed were perceived on social media and such I’d say lots of people didn’t like those a lot more than they claim to dislike the multiverse stuff
@@wowdude654 And alot of said people, liked most of the shows. The only bad ones in terms of mainly negative opinions was really Secret Invasion and She Hulk
This movie is on its 4th set of reshoots. The 4th round happening now from what I’ve read. All of them due to test screenings being so absolutely abysmal.
I think The Marvels was an alright movie. Ms Marvel was probably the best part and maybe some other parts throughout the movie but otherwise it was an ok movie.👍
Yeah this movie is going to bomb big time. It doesn't look awful but that budget is just to much to overcome. Would have to do Deadpool & wolverine #'s & there's nowhere near enough excitement/interest in this character. Should've never been greenlit tbh.
It won't bomb and the budget ain't big nor does it have to compete with Deadpool and Wolverine's numbers I'm sorry that it was greenlit and there is enough excitement with this character, but u don't have to watch
They're doing even more re-shoots as we speak as it's still getting bad test reactions. This is I think the 3rd or 4th time they've done re-shoots. Not good.
Wrong. MCU is still doing just fine especially in 2024. 2025 is another stronger lineup than 2023 from the shows and movies. That includes Cap 4(that still has potential) and Thunderbolts before we get to F4. To each their own if u think that Thunderbolts will do bad despite the people working on it
test screenings for this movie have received extremely bad reviews so far and theyre doing re-shoots AGAIN. this movie has been screwed since the moment they thought anthony mackie could come anywhere near replacing chris evans
Take that energy somewhere else. I am sorry that Chris Evans isn't coming back as Steve Rogers for Captain America 4 since u know.......the character is dead. Anthony Mackie will do just fine in the role as Captain America. I also wouldn't really trust the alleged screen testing anyway that was the caused to do another "reshoots" recently despite doing pickups or whatever. We just want a good movie. That's all we can hope for
I think not if you're saying that Steve shouldn't have picked Sam when Sam was the only real logical choice to take the mantle I am sorry that Sam isn't Steve Rogers, Steve chose him, and a movie of that franchise is being made Not to mention that u think every negative thing about this movie is facts when most of them were proven to be false. This still has potential at the end of the day
@I_WasHere yea I read the descriptions of the test screenings and this movie sounds like asss and I acc like Sam as cap but to bad it's gonna be bigger down by focus groups
The quality has definitely been up and down but it does seem that Marvel is understanding of this. It may take another year to get through this weird meddling stage but I am hopeful to start getting a bit more consistency in quality.
I would REALLY recommend Agatha All Along!
Agatha All Along is great dont look at the viewer ship, it actually increased its veiwers as the series went on so please watch it.
For one, we can't keep doing Endgame level stuff all the time, that's how you get major burnout. Gotta rebuild to that with smaller moments for a grand finale to it all. Another thing, Agatha All Along not got great reviews, it's viewership actually increased as it went along, which is something that doesn't happen as much as you think.
Also, for Jen, there are MANY Hulk characters, and Grey Hulk is the original version of comic The Hulk (because coloring in comics was hard back in then), and leter became his own personality. Movie is gonna touch on some of that 50 years of Hulk content.
If a show rises from 1 million to 1.5 million viewers for a 10+ million viewers audience. Is that a good sign?
@@hkaayaakuu Since Agatha had bigger numbers then that, then yes.
I'm more hyped for Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four than for Captain America Brave New World
Yeah. Gonna be disappointed if they don’t do a reaction for the ‘Thunderbolts*’ “first look” trailer
Is it just me or am I so tired of everybody comparing everything damn thing to endgame? It happened already. It's not gonna happen again. So let it go and move on. That's it.
Well when you set the bar that high, you better aim to trying to maintain it. Why do you think they cast RDJ as Dr Doom? They're trying to recapture those endgame moments for Doomsday and Secret wars
I understand. He mentioned the build up hype but it is never gonna be like endgame not for this mcu
@@hkaayaakuuAnd it doesn't need to be. It can be its own thing
Well yeah they will never reach those heights, although Infinity War was a better film for me...Yes MCU has been a bit of mess, no real direction and some poor writing but im an MCU fan and i think they can bounce back. Bring on 2025..
i was genuinely surprised and very impressed with agatha all along. that one of the least watched shows stat is also false. it is extremely well casted, acted, and produced. I really think you guys should watch it. the last few episodes actually give you what I think is valuable information for the coming stories.
Any time someone complains about the current quality of the MCU, I know they're not really paying attention.
I expect way more from Holden.
So much this. Most of the projects have been fine. The only ones I thought were terrible or weak were Secret Invasion, Quantumania and She-Hulk. But other than that and some rushed Disney+ MCU shows, I think its been mostly consistent and fine. Not overly terrible like every youtube critic and hate-filled video would have you believe.
You’re just delusional. You’re telling me she hulk or any other recent show or movie was worth watching? Ratings don’t lie. They’re getting garbage
@@japanesegerSay what u want about She Hulk but Agatha was good. Idk what to tell u
Deadpool and wolverine did good too. Not most of the things from phase 4-5 were garbage as u claimed
@ Black Widow, Eternals, Hawkeye,.. the list goes on. MCU is cooked
@@japaneseger
Most of Phase 4 and 5 has been consistent. You said ratings don't lie? Well than its been pretty damn good with the exception of Secret Invasion and She-Hulk.
WV - C92%/A88%
TFATWS - C85%/A81%
LS - C87%/A86%
BW - C79%/91%
WI? - C89%/A79%
SC - C92%/A98%
E - C47%/A77%
HE - C92%/A88%
SMNWH - C93%/97%
MK - C86%/88%
DSITMOM - C74%/A85%
MS - C98%/A80%
TLAT - C63%/A76%
IAG - C89%/A76%
SH - C79%/A32%
WBN - C90%/A88%
BPWF - C84%/A94%
TGOTGHS - C94%/A81%
AMATWQ - C46%/A82%
GOTGV3 - C82%/A94%
SI - C52%/A44%
TM - C62%/A81%
E - C70%/A60%
AAA - C84%/A83%
Yeh, clearly going by these ratings that don't lie, the MCU is truly cooked.
I saw theories that they are using Tiamut's body as the way to introduce adamantium to mcu by being mined from him of course. and that is why Sam has a different suit in the 2nd half, it is an adamantium one instead of the vibranium.
Hulk was originally was hulk, which was changed to green because it was hard to print out grey on the pages.
I liked the marvels a. One of the better movies in the last few years from marvel. I think it’s underrated. It was a fun colorful film.
100% this.
There is no way in hell that Agatha All Along is one of the lowest viewed shows on Disney+.
Personally I hated that show. I thought the first half of the finale was the best part of the show and that was it. I don’t really get the hype around that show honestly.
Pretty sure I read that it was on par (or almost on par) with The Penguin viewership numbers
@@jamisonlynch6437Cuz people liked of what they was doing.
Different tastes
You'll be surprised at how much men hate women-focused media.
@@jedijacob0411 Correct
William Hurt was an avid comic book reader and collector. He said in an interview once that one of the main reasons he took the role of Thunderbolt Ross was specifically to play Red Hulk in the future. It was sad that he didn't get that opportunity.
It is sad. Too bad we didn't do a thunderbolt Ross memoriam movie like we did for tchalla
@@hkaayaakuu not only that, you can see in the first trailer that they addressed his replacement with a joke...not cool.
@@ready2ryde7 It ain't that deep. Move on.
U are acting like that they disrespected him and pissed on his grave over the mustache
@@terrellthaddies7867 Comparing to how they handled Chadwick Boseman's death, yeah they kind of pissed on his grave.
@@ready2ryde71. BP2 handed said death good for what the cast/crew was going through and made it as a tribute to their friend
2. You're upset over a mustache. Be for real. It is not that deep nor is it "comparable" to what u thought about said thing with BP2.
Acting like that "We hate this person, so we're going to make a nod about the replacement that means absolutely NOTHING"
It's a whole nothing burger about the character or its pervious actor but yet you're upset😂😂😂
Kevin feige lost is control for 2yrs and now that the head of Disney is back he finally got his control back which was a huge problem for the slippage of marvel
So in comics the first Hulk was a fuzzy alien, then the first color Hulk that Banner turned into was Grey then Green and these are different personalities within Banners mind. As for colours there’s been all sorts really, a blue Abomination, a blue Hulk, a black Hulk, a purple Hulk etc as well as different characters as Hulk e.g. Spider Hulk, Cyclops Hulk, Thor Hulk etc
This is a list of every Coloured/Colored Hulks and who played them.
-Green Hulks:
Bruce Banner, Jennifer Walters, Amadeus Cho and Todd Phelps (She Hulk serious)
-Gray Hulk: (aka Gangsta Hulk)
Bruce Banner and Joe Fixit
-Red Hulk:
Thaddeus E. Ross and Betty Ross (Bruce's love interest)
-Purple Hulk:
Norman Osborn
-Orange Hulk:
Solar Hulk
-Blue Balls... I mean Hulk: Captain Universe
-Brown Hulk:
Devil Hulk
-Black Hulk:
Kluh
Rotten Tomato Ratings for those wondering about Phase 4 and 5. For the most part its been positive. Its had a few hits and misses, very few in fact and even some of the Critic and Audience scores are mixed for the most part. To say the MCU has been crap or dead/dying after Endgame is a lie. Critic and Audience Scores below and my Personal Opinions.
WandaVision - C92%/A88% (GOOD)
TFATWS - C85%/A81% (GOOD)
Loki Series - C87%/A86% (GREAT)
Black Widow - C79%/91% (GOOD)
What If...? Series - C89%/A79% (DECENT)
Shang-Chi - C92%/A98% (GREAT)
Eternals - C47%/A77% (GOOD)
Hawkeye - C92%/A88% (GOOD)
Spider-Man No Way Home - C93%/97% (OKAY and Overrated)
Moon Knight - C86%/88% (GOOD)
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - C74%/A85% (GOOD)
Ms. Marvel - C98%/A80% (DECENT)
Thor Love and Thunder - C63%/A76% (DECENT)
I am Groot Series - C89%/A76%
She-Hulk - C79%/A32% (TRASH)
Werewolf By Night - C90%/A88% (GREAT)
Black Panther Wakanda Forever - C84%/A94% (GOOD)
The GOTG Holiday Special - C94%/A81% (GOOD)
AMATW Quantumania - C46%/A82% (TRASH)
GOTGV3 - C82%/A94% (GREAT)
Secret Invasion - C52%/A44% (TRASH)
The Marvels - C62%/A81% (DECENT)
Echo - C70%/A60% (DECENT)
Agatha All Along - C84%/A83% (GREAT)
X-Men 97 - C99%/A92% (GREAT)
People cry the MCU has been bad since Engame but going from the scores alone its been fine (With the big exception of Secret Invasion which I think most everyone agrees was the worst project by far compared to the others.) Phase 1-3 wasn't perfect either and had its fair share of meh projects that people look back on and think are good now. The same is true here.
Agatha All Along is not one of the lowest viewed shows on Disney+.
He needs to check his facts before he says stuff like that, the viewership was pretty good for that show
It is. It had a very niche audience and it can never justify a season 2. A small group making big noise on social media doesn't show what reality was for the show. It probably didn't even do acolyte numbers which was the worst viewed star wars show and got canncelled
That metric says nothing.
I’d say that honor belongs to the Acolyte
it is utter crap
Agatha All Along was what? Don't listen to what people are saying about any of these shows and movies. Watch them for yourselves and then form your opinion. That's why we love you guys. Keep up the great work.
0:40 oh wow count yourself lucky😭 anyone who has watched Secret Invasion I think is collectively forgetting about it🤞
Don't forget to check out the Thunderbolts trailer
Speaking of Marvel, watch the Thunderbolts trailer & X-Men 97 Animated series 👌.
X-Men 97 is very very good! One of my favorite shows I watched this year
thunderbolts doesn't look good, x-men 97 tho 👍
@@tonybeltran4366 Thunderbolts still looks good tho. Mind u that it's being made with the creatives of Netflix's Beef and FX's The Bear.
So I don't understand of what makes it bad of what they're doing
It's not a Cap movie if he's not a fugitive from the law 😂😂😂
Red Gray Purple and classic Green are the colors of different Hulk's
This movie is currently on its 4th reshoot and is out in february 😂
A balloned budget of 400 million atleast
It won't at 400 Million
A bold and brave new world.
I love cap and Mackie. And will give my money for that. He deserves it
It’s my understanding that Grey Hulk originated from Marvel’s real world printing error. Stan Lee later explained the gray color in the comics. Gray Hulk also known as Joe Fixit is another personality of Bruce Banner and a result of different levels of gamma radiation.
Happy thanksgiving to yall Holden!
Jen can't believe there's a grey hulk wait till she finds out about A-bomb aka the blue hulk (sort of) 😂
I’m excited for The Thunderbolts. It feels like it going to be a good one
I was not looking forward to Agatha and I was very pleasantly surprised
Agatha is not "not too bad", it's actually good. ;)
Great reaction as always and I agree with your main point that Marvel needs to prove that they can consistently produce great movies again. Regarding the comment that the Marvel TV Series was one of the main problems, let's do a little scorecard: Good = WandaVision, Falcon & Winter Soldier, Loki Seasons 1 & 2, What IF Seasons 1 & 2, Hawkeye. OK maybe Good = Moon Knight. Poor = Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion. Overall = 7 out of 11 shows considered Good. Almost all TV Studios would give anything for that success.
They’re apparently still doing reshoots of the movie due to a bad reviewed test screening, but I want this movie and Thunderbolts* to be good badly
Same. I still think that this has potential.
Also, everything about the test screening is alleged. So we won't know until the movie is out regardless
First off Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
Second I'm looking forward to seeing Harrison Ford in the MCU
I think you guys will love the Thunderbolts* trailer
Thunderbolts* feels like the avengers team up we have been missing. You should see that trailer.
I will say, Agatha All Along was shockingly good. I’d say it was the best MCU Disney+ show.
And that’s coming from someone who didn’t like WandaVision, didn’t like Agatha prior to the show, and thought the show was going to be a waste of money and time.
Agatha All Along woke trash
@@detroit163Don't care
Agatha all along’s viewership has already surpassed Loki. It’s a surprise that the unwanted show would turn out to be this good.
You should watch it, Holden. 😊
Agatha all along is one of my top shows I love it should win some academy’s you should watch it
I’m hopeful. I really liked the trailer. I enjoy the more “ground level” Marvel. ie., Captain America Winter Soldier, Black Widow, Falcon and the Winter soldier. Hopefully this delivers on that successfully.
I said it before and I'll say it again...I think the core reason for so much disappointment since Phase 4 began, comes from people thinking everything post-Endgame needed to be at Endgame levels, instead of understanding that Phase 4 was the Phase 1 of a new arc and things had to be built back up again, leading into the next major payoff...which we now know is Doomsday and Secret Wars...and people veil this lack of understanding with "everything Marvel does now sucks!", and it's just not true.
Since 2008, there has been ONE single property to come out in the MCU that I outright didn't like...and it came out recently. The Marvels...and that's only because, other than Iman Vellani looking like she was having the time of her life, the movie felt passionless. I obviously like certain things more than others...but the MCU has been fine. Sloppy maybe, but it's not that disjointed when you actually pay attention (everything has been leading to the citizen's mistrust of Superheroes). Marvel maybe went a little too complex in its attempt to create that branching story that ultimately leads to one point where it all comes together (Secret Wars), as opposed to how mostly linear the first three phases were. But the ride in Phases 4 and 5 have still been a lot of fun, and I really hate how people have just expected something they didn't get, and now act like Marvel is ruined.
That's one thing I don't like about alot of marvel fans is everyone expects everything to be endgame level from now on. Remember that took 10 years of build up. After that it's going to build up again to end with secret wars. These movies are all a build up and will come together for that big movie.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope everyone has a blessed day. I remember that one Thanksgiving when they watched Thankskilling 😂
This movie has the best chance to right the marvel ship...but it still worries me, im afraid all the red hulk stuff is just gonna be more fan service
Agatha was very good plus i watch the Marvels 3 times now and it isnt even that bad, just try it!
I thought the Marvel's was actually pretty good. Maybe it was the low expectations, but i was entertained. I think it's worth noting that a lot of the lesser MCU content since Endgame was under the management of Bob Chapek who demanded quantity over quality and this cause Feige to be stretched too thin to ensure the quality we have come to expect. Since Iger returned a little over a year ago now, the spigot has been dialed down and quality has been reasserting itself. The last few releases seem to confirm this. So I think the future is bright again.
When I finally watched the Marvel's, turns out it was pretty good.
The Marvels and Agatha All Along are actually really good. Secret Invasion not so much.
I think more people enjoyed the marvels and just don't want to admit it.
Cmon holden, those fans disliking she hulk and marvels aren't Stragglers. They were true fans who had more Important things to do with their time. I chose to watch nerdrotic and mauler reviews on mcu since I dropped mcu after wakanda forever
And there it is
It seems like an attempt to recapture the feel of Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I'm looking forward to it.
Holden, I would like to see you review The Marvel's. Though it's not one of the best outings, it's not a dumpster fire and I believe a lot of the poor reviews are because of issues with Brie Larson (as a person, not her acting).
Please watch the thunderbolts when you have time. I think it’s looking way better than cap 4 so far.
I think both looks good in there own rights but I understand
Please let this movie be good!!!🙏
Agatha was excellent and the Marvels is worth it for the two post credit scenes...
Please Watch Transformers One !!
Hey guys, fan of the channel..i get it man, MCU has not been great for a while and ur not missing much with those shows and movies u missed but Agatha all Along was excellent and i had zero interest in watching it, only watched as a friend said it was a pretty decent, wud definitely recommend..Im trying to b positive, they have 4 movies and 3 live action shows next year and i think they look pretty good..At least with the footage we hav seen😊
I'm open to this too. Thunderbolts is the one I'm more keen on though.
Agatha is A very good show it continues on from WandaVision an d Doctor Strange 2. it sets up a beter future of a new team in the MCU
i would love to see you guys watch agatha and the other marvel stuff the marvels isnt as bad as people say in my opinion and neither was secret wars tbh
agatha is set up like wandavision the first half is kinda weird but the second half is gucci mange
They should have recast Kang The Conqueror. Just use Mahershala Ali as Kang. Because Blade now is postponed indefinitely.
And Blade is still getting made.
With Kang what's done is done.
All we can do is move forward and hope for the best cuz the majority of these projects are promising
Agatha All Along is pretty good
I highly recommend Agatha, and I know yall weren’t too hot on Ms. Marvel, but if you like Kamala then you’ll enjoy The Marvels. Plus Monica continues from WandaVision!
Since I’m basically asking for stuff already, might as well throw in that Transformers One is great.
If you're gonna go back and watch what you missed. Honestly just skip Secret Invasion. The Marvels wasn't nearly as bad as everyone else was making it out to be.
My Opinions:
Agatha All Along was fantastic
The Marvels was fun bubblegum
Secret Invasion was rank trash
Trust me, Agatha All Along is good. WandaVision and Loki level good.
People really claim the multiverse stuff is worn out atp and I’m so confused. All the bad products post endgame were the non multiverse related stuff. Secret invasion, the marvels, Agatha all along, ms marvel, she hulk, etc. All non multiverse related and all shit. The good plots all revolve around the multiverse. Loki season 1 and 2 were good, no way home was good, multiverse of madness may not have been absolute peak cinema but definitely better than non multiverse stuff
That's your opinion and not all non multiverse related projects were shit as u claimed.
Alot of people like most of them than others.
Like if u really wanna talk about recently, Agatha is doing good with most of the fandom and is rated higher than Loki S2. So idk what to tell u
@ ofc my opinion but just judging based on how the shows I listed were perceived on social media and such I’d say lots of people didn’t like those a lot more than they claim to dislike the multiverse stuff
@@wowdude654 And alot of said people, liked most of the shows.
The only bad ones in terms of mainly negative opinions was really Secret Invasion and She Hulk
This movie is on its 4th set of reshoots. The 4th round happening now from what I’ve read. All of them due to test screenings being so absolutely abysmal.
And they are alleged in terms of the tes screenings. I still hope that they pulled through
I think Guardians 3 was top tier MCU though..
Thunderbolts trailer when?
GotG 3 was also great. 💪
I think The Marvels was an alright movie. Ms Marvel was probably the best part and maybe some other parts throughout the movie but otherwise it was an ok movie.👍
It's bombing in test screenings so...
That are alleged and this movie still has potential
I really liked The Marvels.
Yeah this movie is going to bomb big time. It doesn't look awful but that budget is just to much to overcome. Would have to do Deadpool & wolverine #'s & there's nowhere near enough excitement/interest in this character. Should've never been greenlit tbh.
It won't bomb and the budget ain't big nor does it have to compete with Deadpool and Wolverine's numbers
I'm sorry that it was greenlit and there is enough excitement with this character, but u don't have to watch
They're doing even more re-shoots as we speak as it's still getting bad test reactions. This is I think the 3rd or 4th time they've done re-shoots. Not good.
I wouldn't really trust said screen testing as the true news regarding the movie
It's still might be good regardless of the reshoots
mcu has no hope until f4 arrives.
Wrong. MCU is still doing just fine especially in 2024. 2025 is another stronger lineup than 2023 from the shows and movies.
That includes Cap 4(that still has potential) and Thunderbolts before we get to F4.
To each their own if u think that Thunderbolts will do bad despite the people working on it
The February release date is a little concerning.
You should watch transformers one it's sooo good man
Dude, what about X-Men'97?
Transformers One !! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
This will be so good!
If you guys haven't seen Wanda Vision, you'll be lost watching Agatha All Along.
Pretty sure they have…they reacted to those earlier series I think.
@@sicmundus2348 Yes, and they liked it a lot too.
Secret invasion ruined world building, nick fury, rhodes and power scaling. It was bonkers bad
Chill commernts, sheesh.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching Transformers One
Please give the Star Trek franchise a chance on your channel.
Im not very excited for this movie especially since its been reshot to hell
@@zoomy7535 It still has potential
This one is gonna be good
❤🙏🏻🙂
You might need to lower your expectations ...
Not really. Nothing bad about what they're doing
8:06 New Rockstars. By the way Holden looks like Erik Voss😂
Please watch the Spongebob movie
I believe The Leader is the Villain of the movie
X-Men ‘97, please. :-)
The Marvels is so fun and Agatha was great! Tbh your view toward Marvel in general is why I fell off this channel.
test screenings for this movie have received extremely bad reviews so far and theyre doing re-shoots AGAIN. this movie has been screwed since the moment they thought anthony mackie could come anywhere near replacing chris evans
Take that energy somewhere else.
I am sorry that Chris Evans isn't coming back as Steve Rogers for Captain America 4 since u know.......the character is dead.
Anthony Mackie will do just fine in the role as Captain America. I also wouldn't really trust the alleged screen testing anyway that was the caused to do another "reshoots" recently despite doing pickups or whatever.
We just want a good movie. That's all we can hope for
@terrellthaddies7867 i think ill keep my energy right here
I think not if you're saying that Steve shouldn't have picked Sam when Sam was the only real logical choice to take the mantle
I am sorry that Sam isn't Steve Rogers, Steve chose him, and a movie of that franchise is being made
Not to mention that u think every negative thing about this movie is facts when most of them were proven to be false.
This still has potential at the end of the day
@I_WasHere yea I read the descriptions of the test screenings and this movie sounds like asss and I acc like Sam as cap but to bad it's gonna be bigger down by focus groups
@@zoomy7535Watch the movie on your time than believing everything about what supposedly happened in the test screenings
It still has potential
Captain America
Brave WOKE world
Wrong. Take that energy somewhere else
The quality has definitely been up and down but it does seem that Marvel is understanding of this. It may take another year to get through this weird meddling stage but I am hopeful to start getting a bit more consistency in quality.