Maybe put the bong down first, then see how ya do. Haha jk. I’ve played music for over 25 years and theory is still absolutely baffling to me. Wish I would’ve paid attention in high school 🤣
you have given me so much clarity...I'm writing compound meter songs, while my daw is set to simple.... So when drums were added my song's never sounded right
I’ve been studying meters and time signatures for years and I still don’t understand. So can you divide 6/8 into 8th notes for example: 1& 2& 3& 4& 5& 6&
honestly, 6/8 can be both 3/4 subdivision and shuffled 2/4, and you can even fit 4/4 over it, i think that is oversimplifying 6/8, the better way to explain it is using dotted 2/4, because that way you can also explain 9/8 and 12/8, and all other times subdivided by triplets
I watched a music theory video earlier… im literally a classically trained musician (if you count roughly 6 years of violin in school as classically trained) who also largely taught myself guitar
Find Andy Summers album The Last Dance of Mr. X with Gregg Bissonette on drums. The song 3 Maria’s is in a straight 6/8 feel/count. On that same album, Afro Blue is in a 6/8 swung feel. So when you count it, it has a swinging loping feel. That may help.
No, the meter compounded on to the 6 eight notes is felt like 2/4. Because the 6 beats are all eight notes (subdivided from quarter notes of course) but still count as the primary beats. They are arranged as **two** pairs of **three** eight notes. 1 and 4 feel like beats 1 and 2 of a 4/4 bar if each beat included 3 eight notes. Or you can imagine it as two dotted quarter notes (a quarter plus one eight note).
Ngl I'm so lost and it's purely bc I don't know the terms used, I have an ear for rhythm and patterns but never had the option to study music theory yet unfortunately
I swear to God, no matter how many shorts or full on MASTERCLASSES i watch on this subject I'll never understand the purpose and use of these in actual music. Note: I do understand the concepts (strong beat, weak beats, etc...) I've been a classical pianist for over 30 years and though i find time signatures somewhat useful, i find that most of the time all they actually do is confuse the crap out of most musicians, even experienced ones. It'd be so much easier if composers only gave the top number (number of beats per bar) and instead of the denominator (bottom number) just use: Sound and silence values (whenever applicable). I have personal proof that time signatures aren't that useful (though they work, they only confuse people like myself). Composers (classical in my case) change the rules of not only measurement, but also key signatures all the time. In the same composition! I can study a sheet of music that I've never heard before (only going by the values & type of movement like; Adagio, allegro, allegretto, etc....) And by the time I'm done you can play an old recording of said piece & it's the same as the one i just finished. This proves that time signatures are just useless & overrated! They no longer serve any need in contemporary musical notations! Back then people didn't have radio, tapes, cds, social media, etc... Meaning, they couldn't hear a piece of music, unless they played it themselves, or went to a concert 🤔 We keep teaching outdated & useless ideas that just complicate the learning process of otherwise would've been simple concepts to understand.
Yea man I agree dude! I'm a drummer and been drumming a long time but I learned by ear and I play what I feel and put my passion onto it! I always hated math and I didn't start playing drums to have to feel like I was in school or something I played and pmay drums cause I love the drums and it's a great way to express myself and always a great tool for getting out my angst and anger and sadness too and makes me happy all at the same time!!
Examples: 3/4 • Loves Story by Indila & Married Life by Michael Giacchino 6/8 • Fallin’ by Alicia Keys & It’s a Man’s, Man’s, Man’s World by James Brown
PLEASE I’ve going CRAZY abt the song she played all day long repeating it in my head and constantly looking for it, pls TELL ME THE NAME OF THE SONG SHE PLAYED before I make myself sick pls 😭😭
Don't understand why you're trying to rush explaining a concept that's not so easy to explain. No wonder people get confused. Guess I'll have to go somewhere else 🙄
Ok but 6/8 does not have to be compound meter, you can count it and emphasize it as simple meter, and it works, it just sounds different, but there’s nothing wrong with with using 6/8th as 6/8
Sir,,may be we can write notations,but sounds same,if you have doubt write the same notations in 7.4 and 7.8 ,and play it in same bpm,you cannot identify both
I appreciate your short, but 1 bar of 6/8 still sounds like 2 bars of 3/4 to me. I hear the difference. I comprehend the difference when written, but the sound is the same.
By convention, the time signature indicates which beats are accented. It would be useful to see a table of time signatures and accented beats. I imagine that some time signatures have multiple ways to place the accents.
This was ok, but as a teacher I can tell you that speaking this quickly about a tricky concept, you lose half of your students. Song examples would make it golden.
Time time time time video? Pigeon is trying to get out of time 😂 I have to make a citizens arrest, what kind of world we living in that we have to catch the pigs 😂 and they using the smoke cover for it ✌️😭
This is the cover that pigeon is using for get out of jail I'm watching the wildlife to watch it's behaviour to see it's food chain will destroy it later 😂
Find Andy Summers album The Last Dance of Mr. X with Gregg Bissonette on drums. The song 3 Maria’s is in a straight 6/8 feel/count. On that same album, Afro Blue is in a 6/8 swung feel. So when you count it, it has a swinging loping feel. That may help those that need it.
What clicked for me is that 3/4 is a waltz, 6/8 is a jig
I've always thought of it the other way around
Lezginka and Tarantella are also in 6/8, but a Jig is definitely the most clear example 😊
Much better explanation. Thank you
This is how I’ve always viewed them since middle school orchestra. The first song I played in 6/8 was road to lisdoonvarna (or something like that)
I always thought 3/4 as waltz counted "1-2-3 1-2-3 1-2-3"
Very well explained straight to the point. I wish it was the same years ago in music theory at university, would have been easier to follow.
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At the moment the pigeon is doing zig zags it didn't try to cover the apr I wonder why 😭
Hell ya!
This video actually made me more lost.
If you really did music theory at university level you should have been very far beyond this simplistic point
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I am more confused after watching this video.
6/8 is Compound Duple Time
3/4 is Simple Triple Time
Massive differences in beat count.
I'm all the way with her on this matter 🎉
It’s not you. Lots of students can’t process this kind of super fast, assuming-you-already-know-most-of-it teaching style.
Maybe put the bong down first, then see how ya do. Haha jk. I’ve played music for over 25 years and theory is still absolutely baffling to me. Wish I would’ve paid attention in high school 🤣
6/8 is just 2/4 but with triplets.
Same. There is a shit ton of assumed knowledge in this explanation.
you have given me so much clarity...I'm writing compound meter songs, while my daw is set to simple.... So when drums were added my song's never sounded right
And now you are an expert that exact issue. I love this.
Post nut clarity
I remember talking to someone about a song in 6/8 but she claimed it was 4/4 because she's counting by the pulse lol
Is she red head? you better be careful mate
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The song “Hopelessly Devoted to You” popped into my head the other day. I thought it was in 4/4 but its in 6/8. 🤔
@HaharuRecords why? 😊
Confusing 4/4 with 6/8 is wild to me
Thank you a lot. This "one ... four ... one ... four" thing made it so much easier.
I still dont get it …
im here with you lol
I’ve been studying meters and time signatures for years and I still don’t understand. So can you divide 6/8 into 8th notes for example:
1& 2& 3& 4& 5& 6&
Me neither. I'm utterly confused what all this means.
same lmao
Let me try :
3/4 : has 3 strong beats
1 & 2 & 3 &
Hear "Open Arms" (Journey)
6/8 : has 2 strong beats
1 & & 2 & &
Hear "Can't help falling in love" (Elvis)
honestly, 6/8 can be both 3/4 subdivision and shuffled 2/4, and you can even fit 4/4 over it, i think that is oversimplifying 6/8, the better way to explain it is using dotted 2/4, because that way you can also explain 9/8 and 12/8, and all other times subdivided by triplets
i have a song in my orchestra class thats in 6/8 and it was really difficult to understand, till now, thanks!❤
You look up 3/4 vs 6/8 once, and youtube stuffs 600 shorts and videos down your throat.
I watched a music theory video earlier… im literally a classically trained musician (if you count roughly 6 years of violin in school as classically trained) who also largely taught myself guitar
I dont understand a thing🤣 I guess it depends how you put the dotted quarter notes..
You would never see this scored out like that. It would just be 2/4 with triplets.
@@ampersand6375Do you mean there aren’t a lot of 6/8 pieces or did i read that wrong
I instinctively understand what you’re pointing out but i can’t track it in real time hahah
Find Andy Summers album The Last Dance of Mr. X with Gregg Bissonette on drums. The song 3 Maria’s is in a straight 6/8 feel/count. On that same album, Afro Blue is in a 6/8 swung feel. So when you count it, it has a swinging loping feel. That may help.
ok..but isnt diving 6/8 into two the same as having it in 3/4 over two bars?
No, the meter compounded on to the 6 eight notes is felt like 2/4. Because the 6 beats are all eight notes (subdivided from quarter notes of course) but still count as the primary beats. They are arranged as **two** pairs of **three** eight notes. 1 and 4 feel like beats 1 and 2 of a 4/4 bar if each beat included 3 eight notes. Or you can imagine it as two dotted quarter notes (a quarter plus one eight note).
To clarify, the math is the same: the articulation is different.
Ngl I'm so lost and it's purely bc I don't know the terms used, I have an ear for rhythm and patterns but never had the option to study music theory yet unfortunately
What about 12/16?
It’s easier for me to think of 6/8 as 8th note triplets in 2/4. Same with 9/8 being triplets in 3/4
I play guitar novice here .
I really need to study this.
Just practicing with a metronome most of the time will bake this into your brain. You’ll never forget it.
Nice video, I still don't understand
As a fox I approve of that shirt
I don’t really know what compound means. And what’s a meter in musical terms?
😂
Your shirt just made my day
I swear to God, no matter how many shorts or full on MASTERCLASSES i watch on this subject I'll never understand the purpose and use of these in actual music. Note: I do understand the concepts (strong beat, weak beats, etc...) I've been a classical pianist for over 30 years and though i find time signatures somewhat useful, i find that most of the time all they actually do is confuse the crap out of most musicians, even experienced ones. It'd be so much easier if composers only gave the top number (number of beats per bar) and instead of the denominator (bottom number) just use: Sound and silence values (whenever applicable). I have personal proof that time signatures aren't that useful (though they work, they only confuse people like myself). Composers (classical in my case) change the rules of not only measurement, but also key signatures all the time. In the same composition! I can study a sheet of music that I've never heard before (only going by the values & type of movement like; Adagio, allegro, allegretto, etc....) And by the time I'm done you can play an old recording of said piece & it's the same as the one i just finished. This proves that time signatures are just useless & overrated! They no longer serve any need in contemporary musical notations! Back then people didn't have radio, tapes, cds, social media, etc... Meaning, they couldn't hear a piece of music, unless they played it themselves, or went to a concert 🤔
We keep teaching outdated & useless ideas that just complicate the learning process of otherwise would've been simple concepts to understand.
this is such an interesting perspective
Yea man I agree dude! I'm a drummer and been drumming a long time but I learned by ear and I play what I feel and put my passion onto it! I always hated math and I didn't start playing drums to have to feel like I was in school or something I played and pmay drums cause I love the drums and it's a great way to express myself and always a great tool for getting out my angst and anger and sadness too and makes me happy all at the same time!!
I still dont get it.
6/8 is Compound Duple Time
3/4 is Simple Triple Time
Massive differences in beat count.
I'm all the way with her on this matter 🎉
The Animals' version of "House of the Rising Sun" always fascinated me as a kid by being a slow march and a waltz at the same time. Now I know why.
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What I don’t get is that if I just restart the 3/4 count on the 1 and 4 of 6/8, it seems to come out the same
6/8 is Compound Duple Time
3/4 is Simple Triple Time
Massive differences in beat count.
I'm all the way with her on this matter 🎉
Examples:
3/4 • Loves Story by Indila & Married Life by Michael Giacchino
6/8 • Fallin’ by Alicia Keys & It’s a Man’s, Man’s, Man’s World by James Brown
PLEASE I’ve going CRAZY abt the song she played all day long repeating it in my head and constantly looking for it, pls TELL ME THE NAME OF THE SONG SHE PLAYED before I make myself sick pls 😭😭
Music theory is difficult for me to grasp. Basics really rattle my brain sometimes. But i overthink everyrhing
You are correct! I Learned this many years ago in 1968, in my Junior College Music Theory class.
Don't understand why you're trying to rush explaining a concept that's not so easy to explain. No wonder people get confused. Guess I'll have to go somewhere else 🙄
Never count 6/8 1 2 3 4 5 6... there's only two beats.
6/8 is 2/4 with a triplet feel;
9/8 would be 3/4.
1 & uh 2 & uh: 6/8
1 & uh 2 & uh 3 & uh: 9/8
so do i need to add "&" before the numbers? am i correct?
Me playing music for 15 years:
Wait what
Ok but 6/8 does not have to be compound meter, you can count it and emphasize it as simple meter, and it works, it just sounds different, but there’s nothing wrong with with using 6/8th as 6/8
"There's a second pulse on beat 1 and 4"
What do you MEAN
She is wrong actually.
3/4 time is 3 beats per measure and sounds like 6/8 slowed down because 6/8 is 6 beats per measure
Sir,,may be we can write notations,but sounds same,if you have doubt write the same notations in 7.4 and 7.8 ,and play it in same bpm,you cannot identify both
I appreciate your short, but 1 bar of 6/8 still sounds like 2 bars of 3/4 to me. I hear the difference. I comprehend the difference when written, but the sound is the same.
Ok
By convention, the time signature indicates which beats are accented. It would be useful to see a table of time signatures and accented beats. I imagine that some time signatures have multiple ways to place the accents.
But why doesn’t 3/4 time have a secondary meter of 1,3,5?
This was ok, but as a teacher I can tell you that speaking this quickly about a tricky concept, you lose half of your students. Song examples would make it golden.
Perfectly explained! Now: the difference between 12/8 and 6/8!! (Please?)
So what's the difference between 6/8 and 2/4 with 2 triplets?
It is the same frequency of notes but by counting it differently you can emphasize different notes and get different overlaying beats.
This video provides more clarity than a huge number of 10 minutes long videos I've seen
Is this what “swing” is? I’ve never understood the concept.
You know what, I'll let somebody else be a rockstar
You know in Being John Malcovich where he gets the can thrown at his head? I feel like that but I just learned something
u showed a song example for 6/8 but not 3/4 😭
Can someone tell me why I instinctively write songs in 6/8? I try to write in 4/4 but it just sounds boring
Thank you! Tried telling my son the difference and he didn’t believe me 😅
It would make more sense to define 6/8 time as "pairs of 3/4 measures"
When I play 5/8 my brain says PI pu pu pu pu PI pu pu pu pu PI pu pu pu pu
Time time time time video? Pigeon is trying to get out of time 😂
I have to make a citizens arrest, what kind of world we living in that we have to catch the pigs 😂 and they using the smoke cover for it ✌️😭
Math? I thought this was music 😭
Sry to break if to u but music is math.
songs in 6/8 time signature will always be pirate music for me
I got to the point where time signature doesn’t matter. A song can be in 4/4 and have a measure that’s in 5/4.
The easiest way is 3/4 you can find it in waltz..
If you can't recognise 6/8 you're not Iranian.
This is the cover that pigeon is using for get out of jail
I'm watching the wildlife to watch it's behaviour to see it's food chain will destroy it later 😂
For the first explanation did she mean the opposite?
Ha! Nice one to master.Thank you.
This lady is ❤
Any 3/4 song becomes 6/8 if you dig deep enough
Find Andy Summers album The Last Dance of Mr. X with Gregg Bissonette on drums. The song 3 Maria’s is in a straight 6/8 feel/count. On that same album, Afro Blue is in a 6/8 swung feel. So when you count it, it has a swinging loping feel. That may help those that need it.
now I get it, we are playing three notes in one beat
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thanks perfectly clear and helpful!
great teaching skills Lindy.
This sounds like a great explanation for someone who already knows it
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well that made no sense to me other than the numbers stfu?
sure, if you want to overthink it, go for it
is ajr's song Inertia 6/8?
I have no idea what you are saying.
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That’s awesome. I was struggling with 6/8 because but I kept counting all 6 beats. If I focus on 1 & 4 it makes it so much easier to play 😊
literally the same thing lmao i hate when ppl try to sound deep thts like saying there’s a difference between 70/140 bpm
6/8 is Compound Duple Time
3/4 is Simple Triple Time
Massive differences in beat count.
I'm all the way with her on this matter 🎉
I believe you, I'm just lost lol
Play triplets, it will fit in 6/8
So its not doubletime?
What about 4/4 and 8/8?
Straight up, best explanation I’ve heard. Thank you ma’am 🙌
BUT, what time signature is the song in, that she's applying both the 3/4 and 6/8?
6/8
Thank you! This was exactly what I was confused about.
And what does the fox say?
What the hell is a second meter
you could say 3/4 is slow 6/8 lol
I love your shirt!
Nope. Still don't get it.
I have no idea what that means
You can also subdivide 6/8 into ONE-2 THREE-4 FIVE-6 which feels like a double time 3/4
Can't you feel the 1 bar of 6/8 as 2 bars of 3/4? That would still make sense because the "4" would become the downbeat of the 2nd bar of 3/4.
Well If we are playing in 3/4 doesn’t the 4 means quarter notes so we would count like 1 2 3 instead of 1n2n3n
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You can have fun switching between them, like in America from West Side Story.