The EB110 too had a carbon fiber monocoque, built in France by a subsidiary of Aerospatiale that ate heavily into the car profit margins - its adoption was one of the factors that led Stanzani to leave the company, as the cost-conscious former director of Lamborghini would have preferred an aluminum one built in-house.
@@DARam4009 Oh yeh.... 40 RA! That was close to my neck of the woods. I wouldn't have wanted to crash in one though. I saw the full-frontal crash for the Carlton and it was a fair bit more of a mess than it actually should've been. Here's what happened to it: th-cam.com/video/ea6Mca2eM4M/w-d-xo.html
My dad and I would dress in full Emirates wear for Earls Court Car Show in the 80' & 90'ss so we could check out all the supercars without having to queue.
Speaking of the Porsche 914, my favorite story from my Dad is how when he was a teen he was waiting at an T intersection where the Silver Spring [MD] Metro station is now, and a 914 waiting to turn onto the main road went up in flames. The top blew off and the driver bailed out OVER the door.
Thank you for sorting all that out for me. i'm almost 60, always had a love for fine automobiles, but not a passion. You are responsible for collecting, connecting and coloring in so many of the memories of my life. Your vast knowledge greatly enriches me personally as a human being. i am, and will be eternally grateful to YOU !:-) Thanks 🙏
Cue 50's TV voice: "It's time for CARS WITH RORYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!" I'm not normally a car enthusiast, but you're one of those TH-camrs who has an inexplicable knack for keeping it interesting.
I remember going to Italy in 1993 as an 11 year old, buying a Burago model of the EB110. It was a great time to be a little boy, seeing all these awesome cars coming out. They still looking fantastic today. Strange no mention of the Ferrari Testarossa though?
It would not have surprised me if, instead of an owners manual, the F40 simply had a piece of paper taped to the fire extinguisher that read "Fuck around and find out".
Fantastic and concise history of the wild and wooly world of Supercar manufacture in the early years. I love all your videos, but get extra happy when I see Motion History content!
The F40 was originally a 4WD Group B Rally car, the 288GTO Evo. It's an utterly insane machine, and the F40 was essentially a watered down version without the 4WD complexity and weight Lucky enough to have seen one in the flesh, ripping round Spa the video at 7:47 is the 2880 GTO Evo, not the F40 LM!
2:25 "Porshe 911...Life or Death handling." How true. As I found out for myself, the ONLY time the 911's rear wasn't trying to get itself ahead of the driver was steady speed on flat, straight roads. Accelerating, braking, cornering or even just going fast it was a nightmare, losing control without warning & only very skilled 911 drivers could recover.....assuming they had enough road space to use. At the time I knew Porsche & Lamborghini owners & the regularity with which they reported spinning off was amazing. "German quality" at its finest! (Although I'll admit the Lambos were the more psychotic when it came to no-warning, unrecoverable spins)
@@XmarkedSpot Agreed, also in my experience the German tendency to over-engineer sometimes trumps quality and common sense, resulting in lower reliability rather than the target of greater reliability. Not that I hate the product, I have 2 BMW bikes in the stable currently, a modern 650 single and a 1969 R60. The R60 is just a comfortable and competent today as it was back in the 60s.
@@ducatisti @Pam Falcioni What do you think about Russian mechanisms in terms of reliability? The AK is virtually indestructible, the Soyuz is considered the safest launch vehicle yet... Would you buy a Russian car as a daily, though? The best car i had owned was German - as was the worst one, too, so there's that. I'm a structural engineer though and arguably a mediocre one at best, who am i to judge? My personal grief on the job stems from over-engineering by committee: never ending and flip-flopping amendments to building codes. Once in in a blue moon there's a sensible one, sure, but most of them are seemingly bred by clueless political busybodies driving by sight in the best of cases... Okay okay, rant is over! I kinda needed that, though. If you're still reading then gee, thanks and have a nice one!
@@XmarkedSpot Russian manufacturing is such an odd beast. I'm most familiar with Ural since I'm sort of a motorcycle freak. Their product is rough and up until about 10 years ago I wasn't at all impressed with their reliability, but upgrades to the factory over the past decade have increased reliability (but they're still ugly bikes IMO!). Strangely enough their lack of finesse in Earth-bound vehicles doesn't seem to be a problem when they strap a rocket to it and shoot it into space. Of course, current events could essentially regress their engineering capabilities back to the stone age. And building codes and those who write them...ugh. We built our own house 15 years ago and I still have nightmare flashbacks to the idiotic hoops we were required to jump through which had nothing to do with structural safety or longevity and everything to do with someone, somewhere, creating political drama so they could justify their employment. I can't imagine dealing with that mess on a daily basis at work. My sympathies!
@@ducatisti Much appreciated! It still can be rather meditative, if broken down it's just about knowing where to look and then connecting the dots, after all. As for the ongoing conflict, it's - it's a catastrophe eclipsing mere warfare, it's the destruction of the foundational European geopolitical structure and security architecture... i honestly can't even. Let's try contemplating the anticipated stagnation/ regress of Russian tech, if only in spite of it all. I'd argue that it won't compare to the total collapse that had happened after '91. Development essentially halted on all frontiers to a standstill and way into the mid '00s at that. (I happen to have second hand knowledge about certain kinds of military research that went on in the USSR at that time, suffice to say that they were confident in being on par with of even having an edge on the US tech-wise. It's a long and more importantly an already outdated story, so maybe another time ;) The arguably biggest concern they must face in the near future is a total lack of domestic state-of-the-art semiconductor fabrication. China can't really help with that either - TSMC is in Taiwan, after all and ASML certainly won't provide newer tech even if they managed to capture the facilities intact... so, yay? Well dang, it's rather late so i'd like to make the break on a higher note: please take care, dress for the slide and actually have a nice one, will you? Cheers, Tom
Yes Aston Martin might take that if and when The Valkyrie I think/Vulcan is ever tested and credited but does it count as it's a Hybrid. Over half a Mile/Quarter Mile the F1 would beat the Veyron over a Mile after it's Turbos have spooled the Veyron would just about beat the F1.
@@lorddarlo6194 Murrays new T50 has more power 654bhp out of a smaller capacity, lighter V12 engine (the T50 is 4ltr vs F1s 6.1ltr) It's a Cosworth designed and built engine like the Valkyrie.
The 959 Sport had a measured top speed of 217mph from several sources on different stock cars. The F40 was never actually capable of 201mph on a test of any stock cars
As far as I remember, the problem was that most tests were done with the comfort, while the pre-production Sports had the short gearing aimed at racing, while the actual production models got longer gearing on fourth and fifth to increase top speed. The F40's did reach 201 mph once...in the hands of ferrari engineers on their own test track (let's agree that they fiddled like how SSC fiddled with stuff too for their own record attempt).
The British seemingly shocking the whole world getting involved in an Italian Madness Vs German Prescion War by producing at the time the Fastest and 2nd Fastest Production Cars. McLaren now deliver high performance cars, Lotus to, Then Morgan Produce two seater Retro inspired Sports Car, Aston Martin have the Vulcan and Valkyrie, Noble had a Crack at Supercars and Jaguar well now produce the Ftype A Sports Car with stunning looks and a monster sound.
the only dodge daytona's that actually managed to go over 200 mph where the race-prepped cars, NOT the production vehicles. Those were actually much slower, still quite fast for their age and especially their weight, but not the 200 mph scorchers that were on the racetrack.
Great video, thank you! My favourite supercar video is Chris Harris' F40-F50 comparison, it's on his channel here on TH-cam. There you see how these cars can and should be driven 🇮🇹❤️😃
@16.25 I'm afraid i'm going to have to correct you as McLaren was actually founded by a New Zealander by the name of Bruce McLaren in 1963 but was taken over by Ron Dennis in 1970 after the former was killed in a racecar testing accident in that year.
Actually Bruce's right-hand man, an American named Teddy Mayer, took over running the company until its merger with/takeover by Dennis' Project Four outfit in 1981. Dennis DID subsequently found the separate subsidiary McLaren Cars (which was renamed McLaren Automotive in 2010) in 1985 that ultimately developed and produced the F1.
So much for these rich people being smart. If you had a complete set of the five fastest then that would have had a value far in excess of what you would have got in stocks, shares, bonds and other investments.
They're paper values. People buy and sell stocks and bonds because they are liquid assets, with classic cars and other illiquid assets (e.g. fine art) you don't know when is the right time to sell, and what's the true value for what is essentially an emotional purchase. And if you sell the cars, what do you buy next? A Model S Plaid?
@@Avantime You need a Renault logo for your nickname... Good one, named after an awesome car that nobody quite 'got'. Anyways, if you look at the market it is quite contrived nowadays with limited editions. But in the 1980s it wasn't quite like it is now, although fancy cars, e.g. Rolls Royce, had been around for a while, sports 'hypercars' were a new thing. It didn't really work out for Lamboghini, their cars had no racing pedigree. The Bugatti effort didn't work out and neither did that Jaguar thing. Ferrari existed but were very rare, you didn't have youtubers with Ferraris, you might see one if you were lucky once in a blue moon and know little about the brand. A contemporary could be the original Tesla Roadster. They are far from impressive in the flesh and more trouble than they are worth. The guys with garages full of Ferraris don't have one. But there is one in space, millions of miles away, plus the company that built them is now the most valuable in the industry. It is the only Tesla that has real investment value and has historical significance that the special edition Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches and even things like Koenigseg do not. I don't think liquidity is that big a deal. Or emotion. It is all about the irrational market and speculation. Right now we have a lot of people who see cars as a valid speculative asset, this is like how antiques used to be. But then the rug got pulled from antiques and nobody wanted them any more, except for the people that appreciated the underlying appeal of old stuff. Cars are like that but there isn't going to be a rug pull moment that finishes the speculative investment aspect off for good.
Perhaps at the very end you could have thrown in a mention of the Dodge Viper and Corvette ZR1. Not as exotic or expensive as these, but capable performers in their own right.
but nowhere near the figures though...except maybe the viper in terms of sheer OOMPH, because the viper did have the power (not the speed) and though the corvette was finally becoming more of a sportscar and less of a brawny dragster...it is and will always be labeled as a sportscar rather than a supercar due to the fact that its a bit like the Porsche 911: the base model is never playing in the same league as the actual supercars, even though it's top trims are)
The XJ220 got bad reviews when launched because of the V6. Jaguar were a threat to the established super car makers as they had the production facilities and distribution to rival them. My conspiracy theory is that Ferrari and Lamborghini got the journalists to slate it as it was such a threat to them.
The V6 replacing the V12 for emmission/engineering reasons did not help but the killer was the early 1990's recession with the X220 being launch in the eye of that storm. The Mclaren F1 suffered similarly, selling only 70 out of a projected 300, the Jag sold about 200 out of a projected 350. To see this car in a museum or showroom is quite something, but to see it out on the road, on the move, it is undeniably fantastic to view.
tbf, ferrari I could understand, but lamborghini didn't even attempt to try going into this dumb craze of the late eighties early ninetees, they didn't have the money to do so and by the time they did, their regular halo car already eclipsed those supercars from the supercar wars (IE the diablo). Ferrari mainly attacked Bugati (still dirty stuff by ferrari as usual). Jaguar simply was hit by a combination of not being the most profitable company at that point, a recession which hit it right in the wallet due to loss of customers and the fact that the V12 didn't get through US emissions regulations. (its why there also weren't any daimler double six of the last X300 in the US either)
We are in for another bubble bust similar to what happened in the 70s and late 80s and 90s. I would have to say the Diablo ended up being more influential and memorable than the Bugatti EB110 and Jaguar XJ220.
yes and no. The Diablo was iconic in its own right, but wasn't counted among the so-called "super cars" as it wasn't considered a halo car for its brand. It wasn't like Lamborghini had suddenly built a model above their usual powerhouse (like what ferrari and porsche did). However, to be fair, the diablo did match the mentioned supercars blow for blow and was an honest and much cheaper 200 mph+ supercar available in the same timeframe.
I was amazed when VW showcased the Bugatti Veyron. It was a testing platform to see how good a car could be. No sooner did it appear, that many millionaires wanted one. Just goes to show how much discretionary spending these people have. Having titanium foot pedals is a thing.
But the Veyron used 16 turbochargers and over half a mile/Quarter Mile the McLaren F1 a true pinnacle of engineering could beat it. The Veyron is still an impressive feat of engineering but 11 years later with 16 turbos it goes 13MPH Faster
I'm pretty sure I've seen a rendition of the Ferrari F40 in GTA5, otherwise I wouldn't recognize it. The in-game version is called 'Tyrus', and that'll be to do with licensing restrictions.
Razelli had NOTHING to do with the F40. Please correct the voice commentary. The F40 was initiated by Ing. Nicola Materazzi after the 288 GTO Evoluzione lay unused due to changes in Group B rules that reduced the engine size for turbo engines. Enzo Ferrari didn't want a good car to remain unused and asked Materazzi to turn the 288 GTO Evo into a road car.
Even today the Lamborghini's are still are a great looking machine!!!! But with the price of fuel now. The EB110 has dated a little in its looks, F40, simply a masterpiece, stunning performance, it is still a fabulous looking car!!!! Jaguar Almost made the grade with the XJ220!! One BIG problem!! They had promised it would have V12, but instead got a small V6 twin turbo, many people who ordered one demanded their deposit back, and rightly so!!!! NO V12 XJ220,s were made!! Production XJ220,s were ALL V6 ( to the best of my knowledge ) Sorry but the 911 is too closely related to Beetle sat on by elephant, ( early 911,s were WIDOW Makers, EVIL handling!!!! they would swap ends several times in the blink of an eye ) ( spare me the hate mail replys they will straight in the rubbish UNREAD SAVE your breath, you might need it ha ha lol, ) 928 S4 manual are nice and can be tuned up a bit to perform very well
I always wonder why people say the VW part about the 911...I mean I can understand the 356, but the 911 nah, didn't even retain much of the 356 except the engine in the form of the 912 (which was actually better to drive according to contemporary magazines...especially in the part where the tail tries to kick out as you mentioned xD )
I believe a Tuning company did put a V12 Into an XJ220 and then fitted more body modifications. Jag really should have fitted the V12 to the XJ220 to really make it a joint legend with the F1.
I never liked cars from this era. I don't think any of them look pretty, or have aged well. That's just me, though. They are quite impressive machines.
The F40. Wonderful machine. Still looks brilliant. Still my favourite supercar.
The EB110 too had a carbon fiber monocoque, built in France by a subsidiary of Aerospatiale that ate heavily into the car profit margins - its adoption was one of the factors that led Stanzani to leave the company, as the cost-conscious former director of Lamborghini would have preferred an aluminum one built in-house.
Don't forget the Vauxhall Lotus Carlton, Ruairidh! That needs a video in itself 👍
Even just for the fact that it outran the police for nearly thirty years.
@@DARam4009 Oh yeh.... 40 RA! That was close to my neck of the woods. I wouldn't have wanted to crash in one though. I saw the full-frontal crash for the Carlton and it was a fair bit more of a mess than it actually should've been.
Here's what happened to it: th-cam.com/video/ea6Mca2eM4M/w-d-xo.html
@@DARam4009 30 years? How did they work in gas stops and driver changes?
@@DARam4009 yesss!
Is that what we (outside the UK) know as the Lotus Omega? A friend‘s father had one back in the 90s….
My dad and I would dress in full Emirates wear for Earls Court Car Show in the 80' & 90'ss so we could check out all the supercars without having to queue.
Genius.
They're still some of the best supercars ever made.
7:45 that is a 288 GTO Evoluzione, a canceled Group B prototype that served as the basis of the F40 itself
I had to Google this and it's a really interesting car. I think Hideously beautiful sums it up well lol.
Those EB11 clips look to be on the future Eboladrome as seen on The Grand Tour
Speaking of the Porsche 914, my favorite story from my Dad is how when he was a teen he was waiting at an T intersection where the Silver Spring [MD] Metro station is now, and a 914 waiting to turn onto the main road went up in flames. The top blew off and the driver bailed out OVER the door.
Thank you for sorting all that out for me. i'm almost 60, always had a love for fine automobiles, but not a passion. You are responsible for collecting, connecting and coloring in so many of the memories of my life. Your vast knowledge greatly enriches me personally as a human being. i am, and will be eternally grateful to YOU !:-) Thanks 🙏
Especially when The Muira had a starring role in The Italian Job the 1969 version in the opening scenes of said film.
Cue 50's TV voice: "It's time for CARS WITH RORYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!"
I'm not normally a car enthusiast, but you're one of those TH-camrs who has an inexplicable knack for keeping it interesting.
I remember going to Italy in 1993 as an 11 year old, buying a Burago model of the EB110. It was a great time to be a little boy, seeing all these awesome cars coming out. They still looking fantastic today. Strange no mention of the Ferrari Testarossa though?
It would not have surprised me if, instead of an owners manual, the F40 simply had a piece of paper taped to the fire extinguisher that read "Fuck around and find out".
Fantastic and concise history of the wild and wooly world of Supercar manufacture in the early years. I love all your videos, but get extra happy when I see Motion History content!
The McLaren F1 is still the fastest supercar that's naturally aspirated, no turbos, no superchargers.
The F40 was originally a 4WD Group B Rally car, the 288GTO Evo. It's an utterly insane machine, and the F40 was essentially a watered down version without the 4WD complexity and weight Lucky enough to have seen one in the flesh, ripping round Spa the video at 7:47 is the 2880 GTO Evo, not the F40 LM!
Ah excellent. Look forward to this. The height of Supercars: Always a good indicator of an impending crash!
Lamborghini Diablo should also be in the list.
Fact packed! 😎
Never mind super cars this is one super channel and thank you so much 🙏
2:25 "Porshe 911...Life or Death handling." How true. As I found out for myself, the ONLY time the 911's rear wasn't trying to get itself ahead of the driver was steady speed on flat, straight roads. Accelerating, braking, cornering or even just going fast it was a nightmare, losing control without warning & only very skilled 911 drivers could recover.....assuming they had enough road space to use. At the time I knew Porsche & Lamborghini owners & the regularity with which they reported spinning off was amazing. "German quality" at its finest! (Although I'll admit the Lambos were the more psychotic when it came to no-warning, unrecoverable spins)
German quality is but a tendency, not an absolute. Source: being a German engineer, albeit not automotive
@@XmarkedSpot Agreed, also in my experience the German tendency to over-engineer sometimes trumps quality and common sense, resulting in lower reliability rather than the target of greater reliability. Not that I hate the product, I have 2 BMW bikes in the stable currently, a modern 650 single and a 1969 R60. The R60 is just a comfortable and competent today as it was back in the 60s.
@@ducatisti @Pam Falcioni What do you think about Russian mechanisms in terms of reliability? The AK is virtually indestructible, the Soyuz is considered the safest launch vehicle yet... Would you buy a Russian car as a daily, though?
The best car i had owned was German - as was the worst one, too, so there's that.
I'm a structural engineer though and arguably a mediocre one at best, who am i to judge?
My personal grief on the job stems from over-engineering by committee: never ending and flip-flopping amendments to building codes.
Once in in a blue moon there's a sensible one, sure, but most of them are seemingly bred by clueless political busybodies driving by sight in the best of cases...
Okay okay, rant is over! I kinda needed that, though. If you're still reading then gee, thanks and have a nice one!
@@XmarkedSpot Russian manufacturing is such an odd beast. I'm most familiar with Ural since I'm sort of a motorcycle freak. Their product is rough and up until about 10 years ago I wasn't at all impressed with their reliability, but upgrades to the factory over the past decade have increased reliability (but they're still ugly bikes IMO!).
Strangely enough their lack of finesse in Earth-bound vehicles doesn't seem to be a problem when they strap a rocket to it and shoot it into space.
Of course, current events could essentially regress their engineering capabilities back to the stone age.
And building codes and those who write them...ugh. We built our own house 15 years ago and I still have nightmare flashbacks to the idiotic hoops we were required to jump through which had nothing to do with structural safety or longevity and everything to do with someone, somewhere, creating political drama so they could justify their employment. I can't imagine dealing with that mess on a daily basis at work. My sympathies!
@@ducatisti Much appreciated! It still can be rather meditative, if broken down it's just about knowing where to look and then connecting the dots, after all.
As for the ongoing conflict, it's - it's a catastrophe eclipsing mere warfare, it's the destruction of the foundational European geopolitical structure and security architecture... i honestly can't even.
Let's try contemplating the anticipated stagnation/ regress of Russian tech, if only in spite of it all.
I'd argue that it won't compare to the total collapse that had happened after '91. Development essentially halted on all frontiers to a standstill and way into the mid '00s at that.
(I happen to have second hand knowledge about certain kinds of military research that went on in the USSR at that time, suffice to say that they were confident in being on par with of even having an edge on the US tech-wise. It's a long and more importantly an already outdated story, so maybe another time ;)
The arguably biggest concern they must face in the near future is a total lack of domestic state-of-the-art semiconductor fabrication.
China can't really help with that either - TSMC is in Taiwan, after all and ASML certainly won't provide newer tech even if they managed to capture the facilities intact... so, yay?
Well dang, it's rather late so i'd like to make the break on a higher note: please take care, dress for the slide and actually have a nice one, will you?
Cheers, Tom
The EB110 stole the WFPC title from the Diablo, not the F40.
An outstanding piece. I was just waiting for the McLaren at the end!
Is the McLaren F1 not still the fastest naturally aspirated car?
It is, and almost certainly always will be (among street legal production cars, at least).
Yes Aston Martin might take that if and when The Valkyrie I think/Vulcan is ever tested and credited but does it count as it's a Hybrid. Over half a Mile/Quarter Mile the F1 would beat the Veyron over a Mile after it's Turbos have spooled the Veyron would just about beat the F1.
@@lorddarlo6194 Murrays new T50 has more power 654bhp out of a smaller capacity, lighter V12 engine (the T50 is 4ltr vs F1s 6.1ltr) It's a Cosworth designed and built engine like the Valkyrie.
The 959 Sport had a measured top speed of 217mph from several sources on different stock cars. The F40 was never actually capable of 201mph on a test of any stock cars
As far as I remember, the problem was that most tests were done with the comfort, while the pre-production Sports had the short gearing aimed at racing, while the actual production models got longer gearing on fourth and fifth to increase top speed. The F40's did reach 201 mph once...in the hands of ferrari engineers on their own test track (let's agree that they fiddled like how SSC fiddled with stuff too for their own record attempt).
you forgot the RUF CTR which was faster than the Ferrari F40
The British seemingly shocking the whole world getting involved in an Italian Madness Vs German Prescion War by producing at the time the Fastest and 2nd Fastest Production Cars. McLaren now deliver high performance cars, Lotus to, Then Morgan Produce two seater Retro inspired Sports Car, Aston Martin have the Vulcan and Valkyrie, Noble had a Crack at Supercars and Jaguar well now produce the Ftype A Sports Car with stunning looks and a monster sound.
1969 dodge Daytona was the first production car to hit over 200 mph.
the only dodge daytona's that actually managed to go over 200 mph where the race-prepped cars, NOT the production vehicles. Those were actually much slower, still quite fast for their age and especially their weight, but not the 200 mph scorchers that were on the racetrack.
I always thought the 2000s would be the supercar wars.
Also facilitated by BBC Top Gear 🤔
Great video, thank you! My favourite supercar video is Chris Harris' F40-F50 comparison, it's on his channel here on TH-cam. There you see how these cars can and should be driven 🇮🇹❤️😃
I loved this one, great job
@16.25 I'm afraid i'm going to have to correct you as McLaren was actually founded by a New Zealander by the name of Bruce McLaren in 1963 but was taken over by Ron Dennis in 1970 after the former was killed in a racecar testing accident in that year.
Actually Bruce's right-hand man, an American named Teddy Mayer, took over running the company until its merger with/takeover by Dennis' Project Four outfit in 1981. Dennis DID subsequently found the separate subsidiary McLaren Cars (which was renamed McLaren Automotive in 2010) in 1985 that ultimately developed and produced the F1.
Here's one too look at next Ruairidh, the Jaguar C-X75
These are more 'hypercars' than 'supercars'
As usual awesome video
Sadam sure was a party pooper
This brings back memories
Anyone remember the Cizeta V16?
Indeed commissioned by Giorgio Moroder, precursor to the Diablo's styling
How to pronounce your first name Ruairidh?
I've been wondering the same thing!
I love this =D
So much for these rich people being smart. If you had a complete set of the five fastest then that would have had a value far in excess of what you would have got in stocks, shares, bonds and other investments.
They're paper values. People buy and sell stocks and bonds because they are liquid assets, with classic cars and other illiquid assets (e.g. fine art) you don't know when is the right time to sell, and what's the true value for what is essentially an emotional purchase. And if you sell the cars, what do you buy next? A Model S Plaid?
@@Avantime You need a Renault logo for your nickname... Good one, named after an awesome car that nobody quite 'got'. Anyways, if you look at the market it is quite contrived nowadays with limited editions. But in the 1980s it wasn't quite like it is now, although fancy cars, e.g. Rolls Royce, had been around for a while, sports 'hypercars' were a new thing. It didn't really work out for Lamboghini, their cars had no racing pedigree. The Bugatti effort didn't work out and neither did that Jaguar thing. Ferrari existed but were very rare, you didn't have youtubers with Ferraris, you might see one if you were lucky once in a blue moon and know little about the brand.
A contemporary could be the original Tesla Roadster. They are far from impressive in the flesh and more trouble than they are worth. The guys with garages full of Ferraris don't have one. But there is one in space, millions of miles away, plus the company that built them is now the most valuable in the industry. It is the only Tesla that has real investment value and has historical significance that the special edition Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches and even things like Koenigseg do not.
I don't think liquidity is that big a deal. Or emotion. It is all about the irrational market and speculation. Right now we have a lot of people who see cars as a valid speculative asset, this is like how antiques used to be. But then the rug got pulled from antiques and nobody wanted them any more, except for the people that appreciated the underlying appeal of old stuff. Cars are like that but there isn't going to be a rug pull moment that finishes the speculative investment aspect off for good.
When it comes to Buggati the EB110 was a prototype for the veyron and along with other beautiful cars they've built since.
I love your car videos!!!!!!!!!!! 😆🍿
1:26 Here comes the All- Crisis again!
Thanks! :D
It's a Metro 6R4 not an R64
Great video. 🙂
Perhaps at the very end you could have thrown in a mention of the Dodge Viper and Corvette ZR1. Not as exotic or expensive as these, but capable performers in their own right.
but nowhere near the figures though...except maybe the viper in terms of sheer OOMPH, because the viper did have the power (not the speed) and though the corvette was finally becoming more of a sportscar and less of a brawny dragster...it is and will always be labeled as a sportscar rather than a supercar due to the fact that its a bit like the Porsche 911: the base model is never playing in the same league as the actual supercars, even though it's top trims are)
front engine cars cant qualify as supercars
F40 my vote
The XJ220 got bad reviews when launched because of the V6. Jaguar were a threat to the established super car makers as they had the production facilities and distribution to rival them. My conspiracy theory is that Ferrari and Lamborghini got the journalists to slate it as it was such a threat to them.
Ah .... uhm...
Ciulf you go more in depth with this, though+?
The V6 replacing the V12 for emmission/engineering reasons did not help but the killer was the early 1990's recession with the X220 being launch in the eye of that storm.
The Mclaren F1 suffered similarly, selling only 70 out of a projected 300, the Jag sold about 200 out of a projected 350.
To see this car in a museum or showroom is quite something, but to see it out on the road, on the move, it is undeniably fantastic to view.
tbf, ferrari I could understand, but lamborghini didn't even attempt to try going into this dumb craze of the late eighties early ninetees, they didn't have the money to do so and by the time they did, their regular halo car already eclipsed those supercars from the supercar wars (IE the diablo). Ferrari mainly attacked Bugati (still dirty stuff by ferrari as usual). Jaguar simply was hit by a combination of not being the most profitable company at that point, a recession which hit it right in the wallet due to loss of customers and the fact that the V12 didn't get through US emissions regulations. (its why there also weren't any daimler double six of the last X300 in the US either)
@@Hattonbank The F1 was produced between 1992 - 1994/95 and had 250 models produced
We are in for another bubble bust similar to what happened in the 70s and late 80s and 90s. I would have to say the Diablo ended up being more influential and memorable than the Bugatti EB110 and Jaguar XJ220.
The US can't help itself but fuck over the world for its own gain 🤦♂️
yes and no. The Diablo was iconic in its own right, but wasn't counted among the so-called "super cars" as it wasn't considered a halo car for its brand. It wasn't like Lamborghini had suddenly built a model above their usual powerhouse (like what ferrari and porsche did). However, to be fair, the diablo did match the mentioned supercars blow for blow and was an honest and much cheaper 200 mph+ supercar available in the same timeframe.
I was amazed when VW showcased the Bugatti Veyron. It was a testing platform to see how good a car could be. No sooner did it appear, that many millionaires wanted one. Just goes to show how much discretionary spending these people have. Having titanium foot pedals is a thing.
But the Veyron used 16 turbochargers and over half a mile/Quarter Mile the McLaren F1 a true pinnacle of engineering could beat it. The Veyron is still an impressive feat of engineering but 11 years later with 16 turbos it goes 13MPH Faster
@@lorddarlo6194 , 16 Turbos ?
I'm pretty sure I've seen a rendition of the Ferrari F40 in GTA5, otherwise I wouldn't recognize it. The in-game version is called 'Tyrus', and that'll be to do with licensing restrictions.
Good grief!
The 'Tyrus' is actually a mix of F50 and F1 Longtail styling, while the actual F40 ingame is known as the 'Turismo Classic'.
who won that war?
Ferrari at a guess.
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Razelli had NOTHING to do with the F40. Please correct the voice commentary. The F40 was initiated by Ing. Nicola Materazzi after the 288 GTO Evoluzione lay unused due to changes in Group B rules that reduced the engine size for turbo engines. Enzo Ferrari didn't want a good car to remain unused and asked Materazzi to turn the 288 GTO Evo into a road car.
should think about IMSA GT Racing car
It’s a shame that the XJ220S wasn’t the car that Jaguar sold in the first place.
Even today the Lamborghini's are still are a great looking machine!!!! But with the price of fuel now. The EB110 has dated a little in its looks, F40, simply a masterpiece, stunning performance, it is still a fabulous looking car!!!!
Jaguar Almost made the grade with the XJ220!! One BIG problem!! They had promised it would have V12, but instead got a small V6 twin turbo, many people who ordered one demanded their deposit back, and rightly so!!!! NO V12 XJ220,s were made!! Production XJ220,s were ALL V6 ( to the best of my knowledge )
Sorry but the 911 is too closely related to Beetle sat on by elephant, ( early 911,s were WIDOW Makers, EVIL handling!!!! they would swap ends several times in the blink of an eye ) ( spare me the hate mail replys they will straight in the rubbish UNREAD SAVE your breath, you might need it ha ha lol, ) 928 S4 manual are nice and can be tuned up a bit to perform very well
I always wonder why people say the VW part about the 911...I mean I can understand the 356, but the 911 nah, didn't even retain much of the 356 except the engine in the form of the 912 (which was actually better to drive according to contemporary magazines...especially in the part where the tail tries to kick out as you mentioned xD )
I believe a Tuning company did put a V12 Into an XJ220 and then fitted more body modifications. Jag really should have fitted the V12 to the XJ220 to really make it a joint legend with the F1.
Then we have the silly XJ220, NOT featuring a V12. Yes, it was fast, but that ridiculous engine out of a Metro rallye car. Come on Britain.
I never liked cars from this era. I don't think any of them look pretty, or have aged well.
That's just me, though. They are quite impressive machines.
The Superwar Car?
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A warning would have been nice instead of just showing a car ploughing through a crowd of people out of the blue like that!
Grow up.
Stop being a baby 👶
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