Happened all the time with WWE talent when they left. They would go on a bash tour. It's just something you don't do while working for a company. If you value your job or money, you don't bash them while you're there.
It's standard practice that if anyone leaves AEW their fans 💩 all over them and blame them for every single fault on the show. They must protect Tony at all costs because he can do no wrong!
Incredible how in the face of declining ratings and general interest in the product, TK is now making Wheeler Yuta and Daniel Garcia major focus of the show again. That plus the bucks and jericho being in major focus at all times... yikes, get a clue tony!
Right ok, The Learning Tree stuff with Chris Jericho is awful because of someone else. There's just no way it could be that Jericho is decades out of touch.
The whole show is out of touch, the learning tree is no worse or better. In fact, it might be slightly better than most stuff on it because Jericho is credible and can make stuff work.
Tony Khan not having control of AEW isn't news. We all know that he's just some money mark who's told what to you by the wrestlers he thinks are his friends.
For a company that has "everything is great" going for it, AEW do an awful lot of trash talking of people being backstage problems as soon as they leave the company.
@loooooooongstanding2141 it can come back at any given moment. Just like their feuds. Start feud blood match break come back to it burn houses and stick needles in people. You know storytelling. Ohhh BTW wasn't the Darby vs the other guy a feud from 2 years ago? Jericho and his jacket from 4 years ago. They should bring Bradi and Shaq back that feud never finished.🤣🤣🤣🤣
That internal war in AEW has been going on for a long time. It was going on before Punk left, or even Cody. Just look at Collision. All of the guys that sided with Punk went to Collision when it started. How many of the guys from the original Collision promo are appearing regularly for AEW? Almost none of them are. If you don't get along with the Bucks and the PWG crew, you aren't gonna get booked in AEW. Cornette called it when AEW started. He said they would publicly smear or run off anyone they didn't like. That is exactly what has happened. Cornette said they did it in ROH, and they would do it in AEW. I went back and watched some of the old 2019 Cornette episodes, and it is amazing how accurate he was. He called all of it.
Yeah tbh Cornette and Brian definitely predicted a lot of shit on point for example they predicted Cody being the EVP to leave they predicted The Punk and Elite situation Tony not knowing shit about the business
Ever since Jimmy Jacobs left, Takeshita beat Will Osprey for the Ai title, Adam Cole is a face despite being The Devil, bryan gets another plastic bag put over his head, Yuta turns on Bryan, Kyle turns on Will. Omg! Tony Khan is Vince Russo of 24 years ago.
So does this mean the dirt sheets are now admitting that AEW has been really bad for years and they're blaming it on Jacobs? Or has AEW been amazing this entire time but Jacobs was a problem?
Konnan didn’t like the learning tree stuff until he just found out jimmy was behind the whole thing now it’s working. A few weeks ago you guys were criticizing it as corny now it’s great tv.
Because only mark watch Japanese wrestling week to week. They know he was a champion but the stuff with Omags was pre covid and isn’t talked about much anymore.
Because AEW doesn’t know Jake about booking a wrestling character They just did a dream match with ricochet and osprey from what 10 or more years ago on the indies that was a viral video. Okada’s personality is the word bitch. And hanging with the the Bucks. AEW doesn’t book to make people care about him or anything except match quality.
Tony, Will Washington, RJ City ,Jimmy Jacobs, Bryan Danielson & Jennifer Pepperman do most of the writing but Id put Jacobs at the top of that list when it comes to storyline ideas. You just made the list!
Jimmy Jacobs has stated MANY TIMES that he did not write for AEW. He did not contribute to creative nor did he want to because the whole reason why he left TNA is because he was burnt out from writing for TNA and he didn't want to write in AEW. He was brought in to format the shows. Jimmy said that he flew around with Tony Khan. That Tony Khan would write the show and Jacobs would format it and then be the communication bridge between Khan and producers and some talent. As for the the Toni Storm gimmick and the Storm/Mariah Maye stuff, that was all produced and written by Tony Khan and RJ City, not Pepperman.
He won't have any problem to find work. Maybe Scott D'Amore will give him a call to work at his promotion, or Kurt Bauer or Billy Corgan for MLW or NWA. If those guys were smart they'd put their differences aside and their heads and their money together to create a strong #4 promotion and Jimmy Jacobs could be an important piece of the puzzle. The guy has a lot of experience in WWE, TNA, AEW and smaller promotions and he knows a lot of people. He'd be a great asset to any wrestling company.
This podcast is literally a wrestling primarily podcast, hosted by 2 ex-wreslters, who spend most of the time talking about wrestling marks and how much they don't follow wrestling dirt sheets.
They bring up the rankings like ANYONE gaf. They did the same thing, same statement, when punk left - with the bonus of they're bringing them back. They mean so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So when AEW was first announced and it was revealed that Tony Khan, the son of billionaire businessman Shad Khan, was gonna be the one running the promotion, who had no prior experience in the wrestling business whatsoever. Then how did nobody see all the potential problems that were gonna arise, that we see going on behind the scenes in AEW today, coming from the start?? Oh wait, yeah sorry, I forgot for a moment there because there was someone who knew before anyone else that AEW was eventually gonna turn into a amateur shit show behind the scenes, before they even ran their first ever show. That prognostication was based off the first conversation he had with Tony Khan back in 2018 and that man who seen all of it coming is Jim Cornette. Of course, Cornette has only been able to reveal just a few minor details that were said during that conversation because Tony had him sign a NDA first. But, Cornette knew right away that Tony was a clueless mark and that he was making a mistake when it came to certain individuals that were also gonna be involved, specially the Young Bucks. So Cornette seen shit like was gonna start happening behind the scenes in AEW well before anyone else when you got a bunch of amateurs involved who had never been involved in running a wrestling promotion before. Whether the AEW marks wanna believe it or not, Tony did in fact wanna hire Jim Cornette, but he wanted no part of it whatsoever and just stopped answering Tony’s phone calls, while mostly everything Cornette said would happen in AEW, has turned out to be true.
The transcript/summary of the call was made by some fan who wanted to paint it in a super anti-Jacobs way. They also blended together what Ibou said with random people in the call. For example, Ibou never actually said that he didn't know who Okada was. Just that he wasn't super familiar with his work in Japan. scapegoat way. Ibou did a second call responding to it.
KONNAN talks about NXT dominating AEW DYNAMITE in the TV ratings th-cam.com/video/L9GQbUixrb0/w-d-xo.html
Well no one is really surprised by that except delusional AEW fans
These clown 🤡 calling fans marks with distain like they forget they were both big enough marks to become wrestlers 😂😂😂
Isn't it weird how many "problems" AEW have backstage but they only ever get called out literally seconds after they leave the company?
You expect people to publically bash the company they still work for? Thats smart...
lol seriously I was gonna tell him the same thing
Happened all the time with WWE talent when they left. They would go on a bash tour. It's just something you don't do while working for a company. If you value your job or money, you don't bash them while you're there.
@@nickparsons1245 it's so stupid. I mean I totally get being angry about being released but be an adult about it
If Konnan keeps telling the truth about AEW, Dave Meltzer is going to turn on him fast. Dave doesn't want podcasters speaking honestly about AEW.
It's standard practice that if anyone leaves AEW their fans 💩 all over them and blame them for every single fault on the show.
They must protect Tony at all costs because he can do no wrong!
Elon's cult does the same thing
@@MattKellerwhat??
@@MattKellerAlso Trump 's cult
They die on the hill for a meaningless company refusing to grow or cares about them in reality
Woke people do that
All elite Wokeness
Incredible how in the face of declining ratings and general interest in the product, TK is now making Wheeler Yuta and Daniel Garcia major focus of the show again. That plus the bucks and jericho being in major focus at all times... yikes, get a clue tony!
Right ok, The Learning Tree stuff with Chris Jericho is awful because of someone else. There's just no way it could be that Jericho is decades out of touch.
Jericho is the reason
The whole show is out of touch, the learning tree is no worse or better. In fact, it might be slightly better than most stuff on it because Jericho is credible and can make stuff work.
@@hiddensword9387 No he can't.
@@markmann5539 Yes he can. He's made 90 percent of his career work.
is jacobs is behind it why is jericho still doing it
But when he got hired, he was a “game changer”. 😂😂😂
They all are 😂
And the list of game changers countinues😂😂😂
Tony Khan thinks advice from veterans is lava.
Tony doesn't pay the veterans for advice, he pays them for nothing
@@user-rx2hw8up2j he pays them so he can hug them
Not only him. They all think it’s lava
@@philwalsh8975 heck yeah pay me I would hug him everyday 10 million dollars a Hug No freebies 😂😂😂😂😂
@@TomClancy-cq5om he's the only one that matters though
ok so if AEW doesn't suddenly get better then who's going to get the blame?
WWE 😂
Mercedes should steal Lex Luger’s narcissist gimmick and carry a mirror around.
Didn't Tony recently say he had 27 writers? So Jimmy was one writer out of 27 and there are 26 writers left?
I'm shocked that 2000 WCW has been dethroned. Never thought it could happen.
Ha.
Tony Khan not having control of AEW isn't news. We all know that he's just some money mark who's told what to you by the wrestlers he thinks are his friends.
I thought CM Punk was the problem though….
Only the 300k still watching think that
He definitely was. They’ve been fine before him and fine after him. After every major moment he’d find a way to fuck it up
@@marquesmorgan7297 ok if you say So. Because all the backstage nonsense continues right? And everything is great?😂
For a company that has "everything is great" going for it, AEW do an awful lot of trash talking of people being backstage problems as soon as they leave the company.
Daniel Garcia is the type of wrestler that should only ever be booked to do comedy, he looks like a joke when he makes an entrance.
But he danced for Tony Clown you know that means getting a push.😂😂😂😂😂
@@andisuge Haven't they dropped that part of his gimmick now?
@loooooooongstanding2141 it can come back at any given moment. Just like their feuds. Start feud blood match break come back to it burn houses and stick needles in people. You know storytelling. Ohhh BTW wasn't the Darby vs the other guy a feud from 2 years ago? Jericho and his jacket from 4 years ago. They should bring Bradi and Shaq back that feud never finished.🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andisuge That's true, I mean they've made MJF a comedy heel again and it's NOT working.
So everything Jimmy jacobs thought was correct ? Daniel Garcia shouldn’t be anywhere near a main event, he should be in the opening match doing jobs
How come nobody ever reported on this prior to it all happening? Where's all the wrestling "journalists"
OMG LGM
Ha.
That internal war in AEW has been going on for a long time. It was going on before Punk left, or even Cody. Just look at Collision. All of the guys that sided with Punk went to Collision when it started. How many of the guys from the original Collision promo are appearing regularly for AEW? Almost none of them are. If you don't get along with the Bucks and the PWG crew, you aren't gonna get booked in AEW. Cornette called it when AEW started. He said they would publicly smear or run off anyone they didn't like. That is exactly what has happened. Cornette said they did it in ROH, and they would do it in AEW. I went back and watched some of the old 2019 Cornette episodes, and it is amazing how accurate he was. He called all of it.
Shut up 🤬
Yeah tbh Cornette and Brian definitely predicted a lot of shit on point for example they predicted Cody being the EVP to leave they predicted The Punk and Elite situation Tony not knowing shit about the business
big swole called the structure not cornette
Brandi Rhodes didn’t sign a NDA
Ever since Jimmy Jacobs left, Takeshita beat Will Osprey for the Ai title, Adam Cole is a face despite being The Devil, bryan gets another plastic bag put over his head, Yuta turns on Bryan, Kyle turns on Will. Omg! Tony Khan is Vince Russo of 24 years ago.
So does this mean the dirt sheets are now admitting that AEW has been really bad for years and they're blaming it on Jacobs?
Or has AEW been amazing this entire time but Jacobs was a problem?
Somehow it's both. Everything is great and getting better but people who leave are responsible for problems they can't admit even exist
@@MattKelleryou can’t make this shit up and they wonder why we called these clowns a joke.
@@MattKeller It really just hard to work that company logic out.
@@gimmiebackmybike1831 billionaire brains don't work like ours do
*"I'm more of fan of Football Injuries"*
- Disco Fever
This made me more of a Jimmy Jacobs fan.
When Konnan finally talks about Tony Khan, what's he gonna say?
"Tony Khan is a really cool guy."?
Ha.
Konnan didn’t like the learning tree stuff until he just found out jimmy was behind the whole thing now it’s working. A few weeks ago you guys were criticizing it as corny now it’s great tv.
Cornette and Last have been saying this for year's. Its a high school clique over in AEW
and WHY exactly would someone require previous knowledge of Okada before he came into AEW?
Because only mark watch Japanese wrestling week to week.
They know he was a champion but the stuff with Omags was pre covid and isn’t talked about much anymore.
So they know who the f**k he is??
@@NathanGuffey-k3t and why would that matter now? AEW needs to be it's own thing.
Because AEW doesn’t know Jake about booking a wrestling character
They just did a dream match with ricochet and osprey from what 10 or more years ago on the indies that was a viral video.
Okada’s personality is the word bitch.
And hanging with the the Bucks.
AEW doesn’t book to make people care about him or anything except match quality.
You dont because Okada is a comedy joke in aew
Tony, Will Washington, RJ City ,Jimmy Jacobs, Bryan Danielson & Jennifer Pepperman do most of the writing but Id put Jacobs at the top of that list when it comes to storyline ideas. You just made the list!
Disco and Joe always keep it 💯
Jimmy Jacobs has stated MANY TIMES that he did not write for AEW. He did not contribute to creative nor did he want to because the whole reason why he left TNA is because he was burnt out from writing for TNA and he didn't want to write in AEW. He was brought in to format the shows. Jimmy said that he flew around with Tony Khan. That Tony Khan would write the show and Jacobs would format it and then be the communication bridge between Khan and producers and some talent.
As for the the Toni Storm gimmick and the Storm/Mariah Maye stuff, that was all produced and written by Tony Khan and RJ City, not Pepperman.
He won't have any problem to find work. Maybe Scott D'Amore will give him a call to work at his promotion, or Kurt Bauer or Billy Corgan for MLW or NWA. If those guys were smart they'd put their differences aside and their heads and their money together to create a strong #4 promotion and Jimmy Jacobs could be an important piece of the puzzle. The guy has a lot of experience in WWE, TNA, AEW and smaller promotions and he knows a lot of people. He'd be a great asset to any wrestling company.
Jimmy Jacobs was still with ROH when they had the partnership with NJPW where Okada was the top star so he absolutely knows he is
Well AEW isn't real competition to the WWE except for spending money
This podcast is literally a wrestling primarily podcast, hosted by 2 ex-wreslters, who spend most of the time talking about wrestling marks and how much they don't follow wrestling dirt sheets.
They bring up the rankings like ANYONE gaf. They did the same thing, same statement, when punk left - with the bonus of they're bringing them back. They mean so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So when AEW was first announced and it was revealed that Tony Khan, the son of billionaire businessman Shad Khan, was gonna be the one running the promotion, who had no prior experience in the wrestling business whatsoever. Then how did nobody see all the potential problems that were gonna arise, that we see going on behind the scenes in AEW today, coming from the start?? Oh wait, yeah sorry, I forgot for a moment there because there was someone who knew before anyone else that AEW was eventually gonna turn into a amateur shit show behind the scenes, before they even ran their first ever show.
That prognostication was based off the first conversation he had with Tony Khan back in 2018 and that man who seen all of it coming is Jim Cornette. Of course, Cornette has only been able to reveal just a few minor details that were said during that conversation because Tony had him sign a NDA first. But, Cornette knew right away that Tony was a clueless mark and that he was making a mistake when it came to certain individuals that were also gonna be involved, specially the Young Bucks.
So Cornette seen shit like was gonna start happening behind the scenes in AEW well before anyone else when you got a bunch of amateurs involved who had never been involved in running a wrestling promotion before. Whether the AEW marks wanna believe it or not, Tony did in fact wanna hire Jim Cornette, but he wanted no part of it whatsoever and just stopped answering Tony’s phone calls, while mostly everything Cornette said would happen in AEW, has turned out to be true.
Hopefully Jimmy Jacobs gets his job back at WWE.
I liked Jimmy he had character bro !
Guys did anyone see the floor is Lava my niece was watching and Chuck Taylor was on it! What a joke!
If I were hhh I'd tell these guys to get the 💰💰💰 from Tony do subpar work then come back to WWE it's a slow burn sabotage
I totally agree about the Daniel CAWcia part.
Ha.
So don’t push Daniel Garcia but push the old WWE guy ???? Yeah the guy that got fired are gonna draw numbers for another country ????
Poor Hutch.
The opinions on DG will age very badly smh
Damn I didn't mind the learning tree stuff
Kids don’t like AEW and it’s a fact!
Skipping past this Bet online nonsense in the beginning is getting tiring
Full gear 2023 was mid vs Adam Cole… I looked it up your welcome it was forgettable
So happy he chewed out Russo he’s such a clown
I just hope he didn’t sign an NDA
I'm still trying to figure out how I'll go on without my weekly "The Learning Tree" segment.
Ha.
whatever Jimmy Jacobs doesn nexty is wiell be bigger and ebter thana yithing you've ever don in your entire. life. You don't know a thing.
AEW got better after jiimmy was let go
"The learning tree is working" hahahaha This really is a complete clown show 🤡
The transcript/summary of the call was made by some fan who wanted to paint it in a super anti-Jacobs way. They also blended together what Ibou said with random people in the call. For example, Ibou never actually said that he didn't know who Okada was. Just that he wasn't super familiar with his work in Japan. scapegoat way. Ibou did a second call responding to it.
Jimmy is Dooe AF! I loved working with him!