Another point is like F1 22, the Force Feedback strength was greatly reduced compared to games prior. Also along those lines, when resuming from a flashback or pause the force feedback is absent for a few seconds
@@AlexGillonI get why they implemented it in case the wheel was turned while paused and the wheel could jerk back, but why not make it a setting? It’s such an annoying feature and likely makes the game unplayable for plently of casual/new players
F1 2020 is still a standout. If easily class '23 as the best game since 2020 but it's bugs seem to be wider and while not always game breaking, just annoying. Honestly, comparing F1 2020 to '23 the only thing I'd still love 2020 for is Vietnam and the classic cars, '23 does almost everything else better. So hopefully will be worth getting after 1.04/1.05 somewhere.
@@arkangelgaming35 Tbf the fact a 3 year old game on the same engine is only slightly worse than their newest rendition going for 70€ shows how good F1 2020 was and how bad Codies have fallen since then...
@@tha_interventionz6941 There are divided opinions regarding 20 vs 21, and I'm happy with 20. 23 still has too many bugs for me to switch, especially since they didn't fix many bugs in 22 and I paid full price for it, so you have to understand my scepticism at this point.
@@freakysquirrel7218 Well handling is worse in 2020 than '23, but some people liked classic cars and short tracks, so that's kept it alive. But the biggest thing to me is MyTeam in '23 is pretty much just MyTeam 2020 with extra icons and one new department group
Its simply because all games build on the same foundation. And when the bug is in this code it will be again in the new game. Same you have in FIFA just in a 2 years cicle because 2 different studios create the game. So a bug you had 2 years ago will show up probaly again after 1 year without it…
Same happened last year. This engine is a mess and they can't get a hold of it. Codemasters should just start over but of course EA won't allow that cause that would mean skipping at least one year release.
Thank your for your honest review! So rare to see these days. I will not be paying THAT much for a game with as many bugs as F1 22 had and still has. I can't believe they still haven't fixed them. It's 2023 and you're charging $100 for it! Get over yourselves, EA. And fix those engine sounds while you're at it!
The tedium did me in with F1 World. The concept is so strong, and the idea of a slow, RPG like progression over time with an F1 car is so appealing, I wouldnt even mind the strange difficulty curve. But it almost immediately devolves into a half collect-a-thon, half recycling simulator that requires every single operation to be done manually. I felt like all my 15 minutes of racing was buying me in F1 World was 15 minutes of chores to do before the next race.
@@zacharycardoso1681 personally, f1 world is the first time I've heard of the "ultimate team" thing, I don't play any other sports games, so maybe that's just a lack of exposure on my part, but idk, I don't hate the concept is all I'm saying
@@Dyskord1 I don't want to ruin any optimism, I really don't. Problem is: When UT came out in FIFA 09 it was an amazing mode. However, EA realized how much money can be made and turned it into a pay-to-win lootbox simulator after about 5 years and it has been like that ever since. The mode idea is great, the fact EA owns the rights to the game it's in is not...
@@freakysquirrel7218 yeah now that im educating myself on it, sounds like you are right :( really unfortunate considering what this game mode could be if it were handled based on an interest in motor racing instead of profit. oh well, cheers for the comment
For bad drivers like me there's a huuuuge glitch when you use the flashback function while in the rain, it literally floods the screen with rain particles and fps drops to like 2 wich makes almost impossible to press the button, thanks for the video Alex!
I'd like to them introduce classic f1 cars like they did years ago, I think it's something that's been missing for a long time in f1 games and if they did bring in classic f1 cars they could bring in a scenario mode where you have to re create something happened in a classic f1 race from years gone, I think this has been a great opportunity that the developers have missed
I bought it. I would not buy it if not the handling changes. Just alone those worth the money for me. I can't tell you how frustrating it was to race properly on F1 22 with a pad. Though I still yet to start the game, so if it isn't that much better than I will refund without any question. Edit: I tried the game out a little in Time Trial to get the feel of it. It's light years better handling wiser than last year's game. It also has a little bit of a learning curve to the new handling. The first time you drive will fell odd. Couple of other things: The podium pass is worthless if you aren't planning to play F1 World. 90% of the rewards are to F1 World. One negative thing I'm experiencing is that nighttime killing my PC. At daylight, I can run the game comfortably with high settings at a stable 75 FPS (That's what my monitor can do). But at night? 40 FPS or lower, even at Ultra Low settings.
@@head_like_an_orangehonestly same but apparently in the F1 gaming community I'm a ass for saying that as like Gran Turismo is peak gamepad in enjoyability and fun
14:56 the new handling and physics designer at EA / Codemasters is a guy with over 18 years of experience working at Slightly Mad Studios: He is called Casey Ringley.
For the first 3 hours of gameplay, if you are playing regular online, apart from people crashing you out, the game feels stable and quite fun. If you are playing with friends (who can drive) the game is really fun to play. If you are a league racer or casual I recommend getting
Now THATS the review i was waiting to hear him say in his video, but he failed to mention that i think 🤪 Thanks for posting this, it made my decision to get it tomorrow. i have a league on my channel, and now i can tell my drivers that were unsure, that it is worth buying when they have the chance. Thanks again Brother
If you mainly do league racing, these games are always good enough. This one seems like it might be more fun because of the handling (also improved for pad/controller users), force feedback, ers and drs seem a bit more powerful as well. Also about the handling, because it got "easier" on traction but a bit more difficult under braking, I expect races to be even tighter. Being consistent will be even more key.
There are many little audio bugs, for example, when the commentary reads out the qualifying order, they will repeat the name of whoever is 18th, for the 20th place person also.
David Grecco? He's a professional podcast sidekick and open mic comic from Schenectady, NY! He used to be in the pipe-fitters union and would go in to bust out the drywall which caused his nasal condition. He was most notably a sidekick on Kenny and the Badger out of Utica but has also done A Guy, 2 Girls and the Man as well as Ronny and the ground weasel from Rochester.
It's not easier, there's just proper grip and bite. Go too hard and you'll get snapped, but you aren't sent into an ice slide until you hit the barrier 2km down the road.
Hugely disapointing that there are such game breaking bugs. That said, I am enjoying Career Mode a lot so far with the new handling and updated AI. Didn't realise red flags were so bad! I'm off to disable them now 😬
A problem I've found with this game: BE CAREFUL of viewing race replays in the theater mode of F2 races from driver careers if you also have a my team save. I've had that break my my team save. The thing that annoys me most about this particular issue is I had this exact problem twice on the last game
Look how much is actually renewed, in side to sides you can see minor tweaks, but 98% same models/textures etc... it really is a buggy updated, and you pay fricking 80 euros for it... what the heck.
Thank you for an honest and thorough review. I was going to get F1 23, but not at launch. Too many issues with most games at launch. I'll stick with F1 22 (PS5), and AMS2 for PC. The Gen 2 F1 cars are great in AMS2. 💯👍
Lastly, this is more of a WTF? but can we talk about Jacques Villeneuve's stats? HOW THE FUCK IS THIS DUDE HIGHER STATS THAN HAKKINEN, MANSELL, WEBBER, MASSA & BUTTON??? He literally has better stats in every category than Hakkinen, a 2 time WDC who competed with the driver the game considers (stat wise) the greatest of all time. E.G. Like why does he have 95 experience??? He only competed for 11 seasons, in the 90s and 2000s too. Checo for context has 92 experience.
Fair play for being honest about holding off for now considering you where given the game. Im surprised they didn't pick up the red flag glitch, seems so obvious
Great observations, I'm one of "those people" as you put it, I'm not fast and compared to you I'm standing still :-) I'm on XBox One S using a PAD, auto gears and racing line. (I need all the help I can get tbh at my age), and I rarely go multiplayer and prefer solo. I also play F1 21 & 22. You've helped me rethink "F1 World". The game throws so many parts, contracts and crew at you it becomes difficult to figure out a strategy. Based on your feedback I dismantled everything from the garage to put me back at 100 tech-level. From this point I've been moving forward through 'Series' challenges making sure I don't overpower the car. I'm at tech-level 194 and taking on events at 250 level (beating AI on tech-levels in 270's). As you've observed the human player has an advantage out of the box, but I'm actually enjoying it very much now that I've got rid of all the OP parts and mods. Starting at the back of the grid to get to 10th/5th is good fun. Equally not happy that the Practice Session "Qualification" run is still bugged, it's even worse in Driver Career F2 as you can't even put the recommended tyres on the car. Overall, I'm actually very happy buying the Campions Edition (so far).
It's the brake balance that's the game changer for me. You need to be on top of it as the tyres age otherwise you'll snatch the rears. Personally I'm not bothered with Braking Wind, errr I mean Point, or any of the other contrived game modes - I just play the Grand Prix mode. FFB wise I preferred F1 22, 23 just feels... heavy and there was more info in 22, but you could argue that it gives weight to the cars making a bit more realistic. That said there's not that much in it. All in all I'm enjoying it. That said there's a ton bugs to be removed. Edited to add that: Red Flags being unusable is a big Red Flag - I'll get my coat.
How do you adjust brake balance? I've been having a lot of problems with the tyres (I feel they are destroyed in lap 5). I tried adjusting tyre pressure but no matter what I put tyres feel horrible after 4 or 5 laps. Never in any F1 game I've experienced this situation.
The brake bias needing to be changed as tires age is actually very realistic. As the tires get older you cant push the car so much, so you need to move the bias further forward.
@@pat_rick2419 Allright, thanks, I'll try it. Hope I can fix ot at least a little bit. It's frustating seeing the AI go 1 second or so faster when I enter lap 5/6.
David Greko, one of the lead devs said that if you increase your ffb to over 70, you’ll start to lose some feeling in the wheel. Try putting it at 70 and see how it feels. I personally like having it heavier though
The problem of Braking point is that most of the times the player has to gain like 64 positions in 3 laps, and of course the IA has to go 3-4 seconds slower than the player in order to make it possible to recover so many position in such few laps. They should have given the player more laps to gain the desired amout of position, i.e. instead of giving 6 laps to gain 5 positions and making the IA go 3 seconds slower they could have given the player 30 laps of time with the IA only 0.5 seconds slower
the problem is that is I think people would complain the story takes too long. but I agree it doesn't feel like a challenge when you're 3 seconds faster than the other cars.
@@gorilla8927 They could have made the Braking Point mode as it is PLUS a level called "very hard" or something like that in which the positions you have to recover and the laps you have at your disposal are scaled in a way that does not require the IA to go 4 seconds slower than the player in order to make the challenge possible to win. As it is now it's so easy that I could win even driving with keyboard. But what can you expect from a team of developers who called Jaques Villeneuve "Fantozzi Villeneuve" in the game ?
Wel done for being so honest. Refreshing. I suspect many a simracer really only uses 3 modes - hotlapping/practice, single player ad-hoc racing versus AI and multi player. These werent mentioned much; perhaps a follow-up vid?
I have a different opinion, but it is different because i do not play carreer mode at all, no braking point. I only play online and league racing. Things that are better: - Handling, however, they need to make more challenging on rain. Now it is just too easy. Maybe get the visibility worse or someting to let the experience better. Brake bias are nice but they need to punish more when you lock the rears. Otherwise people will use this to improve lap time by drifting (i.e Monaco - turn 6, Canada turn 10) - time trial leaderboard: That is awesome that they included all platforms; - contact model: When you make contact to another car in the last game, the cance of spinning was really high. Now it is improved, however when you clip somone on the rear, the car spins immediatelly which is not nice. Yesterday on PSGL social race, it looks like this happened with Jarno/Bari - Online stability: I must say that this improved a lot. Last game was just horrible and we can see that they made a step forward on this area. BUgs/ things to be changed : - Lost of FFB on fanatec wheel. - They dont allow play time trial on rain - Car disapeering during online races - Streaming using twitch on xbox not working Overall, for those who play online and not againist Ai, it is a good game. But i agree that the issues raised on this video are pretty hard to accept. Specially Ai difficulty, which makes the experience pretty boring even for non esport players. I'll wait for the patches. Lets hope the bug fixes does not ruin the online experience as it happened last game.
A friend of mine got given a wheel and mentioned to me the game was releasing. I wasn't too on top of it. For various reasons I'd not played 21 and 22 and i used a controller. I had to map that differently and turn on all assists as I just cant coordinate triggers and bumpers and all that. I've only just recently upgraded to win10 after a graphics card upgrade, I replaced my standard 1050 with a 4060ti and installed 2021, after playing through 2020 again. I was part way through the first round when my friend mentioned he got his brother's old wheel and 23 was releasing. Motivated by recent PC upgrades, I thought why not and looked for my own wheel. Picked up a brand new G29 and started 2021 again. My friend was already playing his early access 23 and we were sharing experiences of getting used to a wheel and what assists we were using. I couldnt afford 23 and didn't know when i'd be able to so my friend just goes and buys it for me. So for me, racing with a wheel for the first time in about 20 years, and the new cars, new tracks, there's more than enough to make me love the new game. I basically have to learn all t eh tracks again and learn how to drive again, so before each career mode round I go into the time trial of that track and get comfy with it. There's a massive difference between time trial and the my team car. Setups that felt good in TT likely wont work on your my team car. I struggle with setups a lot too. I dont know the nuances of setting up, what each track requires. I just spend ages tweaking it until I get something I can drive, trial and error. I'm absolutely pleased (in a good way) to hear that you are struggling with the quali programs. Luckily we dont get them every round. I was gutted as I forced myself to skip it first time I got it, but i feel a lot better about that now. I've found I tend to start the first season on 90, and bump it up to 94 for second season, I'm quite bad relatively. I thought with a wheel I'd go straight to 94. But it was just a bit too high. one thing that really, really annoyed me is you cant change the AI level in this case, you have to wait for the next round, so if you set it too high you basically have to junk round one. I ended up starting a new team just to change the difficulty. I dont understand why its locked out. Back in 2020 you had access to it on the pause options on the loading screens. Bad luck if you set it too high now. Overall I'm really enjoying the challenge of learning how to drive with a wheel and had a blast on Jeddah for the first time a few days ago, learning the track in time trial and taking it to career. Looking forward to others I havent raced yet, Miami, Imola, Las Vegas. I'm not at all a sweat so I'm finding more to enjoy rather than not.
Why has not a single reviewer, including this one, given us any feedback on the state of VR in the game? This is the only significant new feature to appear in the game last year and this year. We need to know!
If you try and catch up on the real-world calendar in Grand Prix mode on 3-lap or 5-lap races, even if you went from last to first and doing all sorts to get Driver of The Day, it still shows your selected driver. On my save, the commentators would say that it's Alex Albon since race 2. It is still the case when I switched the commentary into another language. Funny that.
At the end of the second year of my solo career, I had a huge bug. When I wanted to advance time, the clock started turning, but nothing happened. Even deleting and reinstalling the game did not help. Another bug that still is in the game is that when you reach maximum levels of reputation and performance in Braking Point in the last race, you will not get the trophies for it. Seems like very easy to fix, but they didn't. Disappointing.
I am enjoying F1 23 quite a bit at the moment. With the changes of the handling model combined with changes they have also made to the controller, F1 23 as an extremely fun driving experience. (Unlike F1 23) I do agree with the majority of the “bad” points you made. F1 Worldnhas potential imo just needs some tweaking and ironing out, it’s clearly going to be the future of these games let’s be real. For me the game is worth it purely for the much better driving experience. Bought every codies F1 game too haven’t enjoyed playing the F1 game this much since F1 2020. The bugs need fixing ASAP though It is rather embarrassing from EA/Codemasters to make a big deal about Red Flags returning just for them to be broken from launch. Despite this, I’m really enjoying the game and having fun which is the main thing.
Honestly I went out and bought a wheel and playseat because of how bad 22 handling was with the controller. I've been playing racing games with the controller for over 15 years and I've never experienced such bullshit. Even Dirt Rally, which is a Sim handled better.
Imo one of the biggest things you've left out is the blurry image. The Antialiasing options are all bad, and turning them off in the config file reveals a game that does not look like 1080p when run at 1080p. It's so bad it becomes difficult to see distance boards on the side of the tracks.
my main problem with f1 games since 2021 has been the variety of cars, this year you get the 2023 f1 cars, the 2022 f2 cars and that's it (i don't count super cars cos its an f1 game not assetto corsa) f1 2020 had 2019 and 2020 f2 cars, the 2020 cars, loads of classic cars and mods that would let you play the entire 2002, 2003 and 2007 f1 seasons. f1 imo needs to make a classic f1 game or something with loads of old and new cars in.
IMO the grip level of the tire should go down one or two clicks. where F1 22 had to steep of a drop F1 23 takes too long when the tires are at their limit. IRL drivers can just full throttle all the way without spinning out (burnouts), but it severely impacts their cornering speeds and stability as well as damaging the surface which can lead to blistering and less grip
when i play series in f1 world i’ve been getting multiple events where everyone including me is on wets. when you get to the big race at the end, all the ai do is pit for more wets. you can edit your race strategy but only to inters, you can box for slicks however, just have to do it in MFD midrace. it’s very strange cause it’s all in the dry too, i even checked my settings to make sure my weather was on dynamic (it was) but that was a setting that couldn’t be changed.
I pretty much stopped dead with this series at F1 2017, only recently picking 2018 and 2020 from the bargin bin as EB Games clears more shelf space for PS5. Much like my other favourite annual sports franchise NHL, it simply wasn't worth forking out the money every year for incremental updates. With them seemingly investing so much energy into a story mode I care very little for, and the superfluous Sims-eqsue F1 Life garbage, I hold little hope of seeing the imrprovements I'd like to see.
Thanks for the review. I'm really enjoying the fact that the driving on controller has been improved - it definitely feels much better than previous games, which I've found to be a bit of a nightmare at times. I think cockpit view has become my favourite way to play.
I want a demo before I commit, if the handling is vastly improved I'm somewhat tempted but no chance I'm sinking ~£60 into this like with F1 22 for it to be a hot mess.
I got some 1. Playing a splitscreen race at Vegas and crashing makes it go at 10fps(Xbox series s) 2. Doing a instant replay in the rain is unbearable(series s) 3. I went from 16 to 8 in one start 4. In the middle of my race in Imola in my team, the damage model randomly stop working, I had to reset the game for it to work. 5. Cars can have engine faliures on lap one 6. Engine failures don’t bring out saftey cars or vc
Is the focus bug from 2021 and 22 still there? I'm talking about the bug that when playing career or My Team, all the AI driver's "focus" stat keep falling in the red with no real way to boost them back up to green, which leads to a grid that constantly makes mistakes and drive like shit by the time you get to your second season, and F2 drivers and icons being really good and consistent because they're the only ones in the green.
If it has EA on it then it’s not going to be on my PC. It’s a shame they had to taint a developer I’ve enjoyed games by for 30 odd years by buying them, it was a good run & all good things come to an end. First time I can recall were there will be no single seater racer for me to get my racing fix. Started with Revs on the BBC Master in the 80s & until 2020. It all started with Geoff Crammond.
I want to get an f1 game for using on a ps4 pro. Would you say F1 ‘21 or 2023 would be the better game to buy just for career mode? Other than that is there many differences? I’m not going to buy the 2022 version I’ve heard it’s not so good.
From what i can see, i think f1 23 is just f1 22 with better handling, less aggressive ai, an unfunctional red flag system which totally messes up the results, and a story mode. Oh and 2 new tracks with Qatar and Las Vegas. I really can't see much improvement from last year and im disappointed about it. Im just gonna wait for the price to drop down the line, and im gonna pick it up from there. Fingers crossed the annoying bugs with the red flag results, and the rev limiter sound are gonna be fixed until then.
I got the normal f1 23 on Wednesday rather than Friday so yes that’s good. One big problem with the game is that the ai speed on the straights is so broken. Even in just a normal race. It’s like their downforce amount in between corners changes. Like they are so fast and grippy on the corners and they can still power past you on the straight. Even if you have a lower downforce on your car they still beat you. Ik there are different factors for bad straightline speed like an exit from a corner or DRS and ERS. Yet when you run a higher downforce, you can hardly get near on the ai in the straights and the ai still are good in the corners. I do think they should add more ai mistakes and also make the ai have different set ups. I do think they need to add better damage physics. Like with front wings. You can only seem to break off the emplates or the entire wing. I also think they need to add damage to barriers. This could justify red flags even more. But this is probably one of the most promising games that EA have ever made
Don’t add downforce for cornering. Add a FR and RR balanced medium ti high toe for better cornering speeds. Lower downforce slightly to balance out the grip. And you should be up there with em. However I stopped playing all EA made games due to their lack of integrity for making a sim racing game fail, again. So I moved to Asseto and iRacing. Much cleaner people out here. It’s like heaven.
@@OwltheWho if you aren’t playing ea games then you clearly haven’t seen much of what the ai have been like. The ai speed has been broken since last years game
It feels like from what I've seen F123 is not worth buying unless it's heavily on sale. No improvements to career mode, the obvious bugs at the start of the launch cycle and features like the new tracks and braking point 2 (oh my god, how I came to loathe story modes in sports games, they are always garbage, they can't even make a stable game, what made them think they're hollywood writers all of a sudden) could've just been a dlc for F122. The new handling could've also just been patched into F1 22, paying 80 € for those miniscule improvements that could've just been a patch is asinine.
I've never heard of this series, but thanks to Grand Turimso it helped me tremendously with the driving aspect and knowing apexes. It cures my go-kart fix thats forsure during the winter times lol.
This is the 1st F1 game I won't be picking up since 2018. The franchise certainly seems to have gone down the typical EA road for me. We'll see how next year looks but I'll save my money this year round.
Yup. I've played thousands of hours of F1 2018 - F1 22, but no more. F1 22 was super disappointing it seems that F1 23 is more of the same. I'll only try a codemasters F1 game again when they make major changes like create or use a new game engine, but until then I'll just stay on other sims.
@@jphgaming6391 pinpointed my thoughts exactly! AI still are very easy to push around, loads of bugs, new features aren’t good, nothing on myteam, and the price is ridiculous. Makes u wonder what they were doing all year
I bought the champions edition and I have major problems with ffb but even with problems it is my favorite f1 game since 2013 due to the handling and ai alone
Not sure if anyone is talking about this but in TT there is no wet TT so you can't test wet setups unless you go into Grand Prix mode and set the weather to full wet and do a practice/quali session with it.
I’m pretty new to f1 and have never touched a game before, so I’m not using a full racing setup like half the people here most likely, but I got it on ea play on my pc and I’ve been really enjoying it. Building up your team in career mode has been really enjoyable too imo. Again, I’ve never played a F1 game before so it could just be that stars in eyes honeymoon phase but I have played for over 20 hours as of now. I will say I’m struggling to fine tune the AI, I’m either winning races by 20 seconds or unable to crack the top 10. Will likely take some more driving and fiddling to get it perfect.
I appreciate the honest review Alex. Makes me wonder if I've made the wrong decision ordering it for Friday based on the pre release hype. I couldn't stand the poor handling and AI experience on F1 22 anymore so these past few months I've turned to F1 2020 as a substitute. Makes you wonder if there's any point in releasing the games in early summer. At least there were less bugs in games released in August where they had more time to iron them out.
Wondering myself, but I had so much fun on 2020, less so on 21, then avoided 22; maybe 23 will fill the void and be fun anyway after having a break from the game. Anyway, we've done it now, so just play and enjoy what you can.
@@head_like_an_orange Yeah F1 2020 will always be my favourite game. The only thing that kept me playing F1 22 was co-op. As long as the handling feels satisfying and the AI are able to be raced I should still have some fun on this game.
‘Why the hell was this not spotted by their QA department?’ What makes you think it wasn’t spotted? I’ve worked in software QA for 20 years including a bunch of game QA and I’m very much over QA being blamed for this sort of thing. Odds on it was spotted, it was known about and the project management made the call to ship on schedule rather than delay.
Can I also tell you guys a story of my latest multiplyer bug out? Started a 35% race in Melbourne, raced to lap 9 then my engine malfunctioned and caused a red flag. During this red flag I could change my strategy. When the race kicked back off, I was on the grid without control of the car. I manually retired from the race at the finish line. This caused my car to stay on the track as there was no run off area, causing 2 safety cars one straight after my car was left and the second 20ish seconds after the last safety car ended. My friend managed to race up to 1st during this nonsense and when the race ended he came 4th and was 19seconds off 1st place, despite overtaking the winner a lap prior
Great review. I'm still playing F1 2020 and will probably buy this one on sale at some point. I only play the My Team mode and do online leader board hot laps so the handling updates are the main selling points for me.
How to fix equal cars in coop after lots of testing this is it. F1 world, GP multiplayer, settings, change cars to F1 2023, then to simulation settings and turn off equal cars back to main menu and created your coop series, what I personally did was not changing anything in the settings and went straight to picking a team and then lobby to invite a friend after all my buddy joined I changed the settings without issue and equal performance was off!
Thank you for your honesty, i know you play this game alot and surely can be easily influenced to being bias, cause i know you love so much (so do I), thanks again. I'll wait for that discount.
It's like Football Manager, when they do the tweaks to fix a bug or change a font, or background colour and claim it is a new feature. Yearly games are just not going to make wholesale changed year on year, and they know players will still buy
Here’s one for you: there’s an F1 event called the Community Grand Prix. The week before a real world race you can set a quali lap for that track (This week is Canada). When you quali, it warns you you’ll be locked with assists you use for a community race that weekend. I thought sure that makes sense, you should use the same settings you qualified in for the race. But it actually locks you in to those assists from all F1 World activities, including single player. So while I’m 10+ seconds ahead of the AI doing a Series I can’t even practice driving with no ABS or TC 🤣
Thanks for the review mate. I just added this game to my library on my playstation account. They are giving it away for free with playstation plus this month, so I thought why the hell not. It's been over 10 years since I've played an F1 game so it should be good just to race around casually every now and then. I will even give the career mode a go too.
For me, the biggest downside is that you can't change the F1 calendar in career mode. Yes, you can add or remove some tracks in the career mode, but you are solely limited to the ones provided and you can't change the order.
Alex you need to make a control pad public service announcement. It you hold the analog steering stick forward and roll the stick round to the left or right you will steer as smooth as you would with a wheel. Stick pushed forward at twelve o’clock, steering wheel will be straight in game, as you gradually roll the stick round to the right 1 o’clock 2 o’clock then finally 3 o’clock the wheel in game will turn smoothly and 3 o’clock will be full lock right. Same turning left stick pushed and held forward rolled round to left 9 o’clock is full lock. This is a game changer if this doesn’t make sense please contact me. If it does try it for yourself realise it’s a game changer and let your fans know it’s probably taken 4 seconds off my lap times
I noticed the performance issue on xbox series x aswell. During a cutscene on braking point the fan really speeds up and my xbox becomes heathrow airport so hopefully a patch sorts that.
Okay so basically the game didn't get tested properly and we're expected to pay 70€ for a glorified BETA once again. But hey, the handling isn't utter dogsh*t anymore. Amazing.
Im very dissapointed to F1 23, the worst bugs from 22 is gone (almost the worst and predictable AI in racing history). F1 2020 is the best so far, after that everything goes very wrong! They shold restart from 2020 and try to do a sim with good physics and smart AI. Skip breaking point and supercars, and put all time and energy to do a normal based on F1 2020.
bugly: during a SC you get a raw strategy, only when I open the MFD for a new strategy I only see a small screen at the bottom right, without seeing the whole strategy selection. More people experiencing this?
The only bug I came across is the music. When u are sitting in front of a computer in career mode it doesn't play, you have to go into setting go to music and back out of settings.
Good video. A point on F1 World being too easy or making parts that are worse. You can define the difficulty for the F1 World by manually increasing or decreasing the AI tech level. That also increases or decreases the rewards, so not that big of an issue.
Whenever I spectate or watch a cutscene for too long, my PS5 digital is on the brink of blowing up, and I occasionally get the "turn ps5 off, its too hot" warning... this game is so fun, but that just cannot happen with a 80 euro game
For me I prefer the 22 handling on pad it's nice that you can catch slide easier but I absolutely hate the fast steering on the straights it feels so unrealistic
1:46 i disagree. i play acc on a pad and i tuned it so that it feels as close to a wheel as possible, so if i put the stick all the way to one side it will go to opposite lock in-game. but of course i understand not everyone enjoys driving like that
@@Karlywoo_Plays bruh, did you even read my comment? Lmao, I WAS GIVING AN OPINION YOU GENIUS and saying that in another "game" that it is actually possible to go full lock with the controller and just have much more refined steering input. Jeez my man, improve you reading skills a bit aye
I like that we get to answer questions, media, etc. Gave it a bit of immersion. However with the amount of questions, I expected alternative endings. Without alternate ends, it's a bit pointless but still a very good step.
Hey Alex! Great conversation this morning about the after-sprint race tire glitch and red flag glitch. It's amazing to me that the tire glitch still exists after all this time. Another thing that I thought was interesting was, since the beginning of my two-player career, my friend who is in a Ferrari, only got offered medium to hard strategy for the race, while I in a Mercedes was offered a medium soft for every race. Could this fall under the mixed strategy that you mentioned and if so does it make sense to do this to the actual player, rather than just the AI?
Hi Alex. thank you and congratulations for your good video. I would like to have your opinion about F1 22 and F1 23. Personally I would like to go towards the version closest to a real simulation. So which of the two versions do you think is the most realistic in terms of "driving" and not necessarily in terms of graphic beauty or sound. Thanks in advance.
F1 23 for me still 9.1 out of 10 despite still had half of the bugs from F1 22 present in F1 23 plus the F1 WORLD and Red Flag rules that are completely broken.
Great review. Given the number of issues the games ship with each year, you'd think that EA would just switch to a two-year development cycle with a low-cost expansion/roster update between major releases instead. That would then allow the developers more time to add new features and fix bugs. Of course, EA would never do that because... well... money... but really, unless you are a die-hard F1 fan, then there really is little reason to buy the game every year as they basically just re-release the same game with tweaks and updated rosters/rules/tracks etc. They remove something one year to reintroduce the next as "new this year", much like they do with the FIFA, Madden NFL and NHL franchises. I am currently playing F1 23 5 hour trial (down from the previous 10 hour trial) through the GamePass Ultimate subscription for my PC (and Xbox Series X) and think the game is fine but apart from improved lighting, haven't really noticed much in the way of changes in how the game looks, feels or plays personally. All very predictable, very EA, so far.
Hey Alex u forgot the replay system in the rain. It’s buggy af for a few seconds it will drop ur fps so much. Like if u have 120 it will drop to 15 fps that’s insane
Currently upgraded my oneX to seriesS, got 3months gamepass free so downloaded this to play and f1 manager, there's now 45 games on my gamepass to play later list plus the well over 100 digital games already purchased lol, happy days ahead MEGA BACKLOG lol I would love a retro season and cars etc, like late 90s early 00s roster and modern rules, be interesting see how the oldies but goodies play out that way
Bugly? What a word :D
Needs to he added to the dictionary
@@ashtonbackup934 Most definetely. It sure is in mine now :D
@@HistoricalRabbithole😂
😂😂😂
Cousin to ‘fugly’
Another point is like F1 22, the Force Feedback strength was greatly reduced compared to games prior. Also along those lines, when resuming from a flashback or pause the force feedback is absent for a few seconds
Yes good point! I raised the FFB fade from pause a couple of times but sadly it wasn't shortened
@@AlexGillonI get why they implemented it in case the wheel was turned while paused and the wheel could jerk back, but why not make it a setting? It’s such an annoying feature and likely makes the game unplayable for plently of casual/new players
I have notice this as well! I just got into the sim racing and skip f122 last year. The flashback always fucks me up.
I just don’t have force feedback when I open the game and it slowly builds up and then just goes away for the rest of the time the game is open
The game is total jumk because of that . By the time they fix all these bugs, which they don't even mention in this video, the game will cost $19.
Huge respect for an honest review
Agree. F1 23 still 9/10 game anyway.
70% off somewhere around 1.08 then, and sticking with F1 2020 for now. Thanks for the review.
F1 2020 is still a standout.
If easily class '23 as the best game since 2020 but it's bugs seem to be wider and while not always game breaking, just annoying.
Honestly, comparing F1 2020 to '23 the only thing I'd still love 2020 for is Vietnam and the classic cars, '23 does almost everything else better. So hopefully will be worth getting after 1.04/1.05 somewhere.
@@arkangelgaming35 Tbf the fact a 3 year old game on the same engine is only slightly worse than their newest rendition going for 70€ shows how good F1 2020 was and how bad Codies have fallen since then...
F1 2021 was much better than f1 20 and f1 23 is very good as well
@@tha_interventionz6941 There are divided opinions regarding 20 vs 21, and I'm happy with 20. 23 still has too many bugs for me to switch, especially since they didn't fix many bugs in 22 and I paid full price for it, so you have to understand my scepticism at this point.
@@freakysquirrel7218 Well handling is worse in 2020 than '23, but some people liked classic cars and short tracks, so that's kept it alive. But the biggest thing to me is MyTeam in '23 is pretty much just MyTeam 2020 with extra icons and one new department group
For me, the most concerning thing is the return of certain bugs which were patched in the last year's game
Can you mention some? I haven’t encountered many impactful bugs except for the red flag glitch that changes results on completion of a race
@@justinburley8659 Rev limiter in spectator mode (awful engine sound)
Its simply because all games build on the same foundation. And when the bug is in this code it will be again in the new game.
Same you have in FIFA just in a 2 years cicle because 2 different studios create the game. So a bug you had 2 years ago will show up probaly again after 1 year without it…
Same happened last year. This engine is a mess and they can't get a hold of it. Codemasters should just start over but of course EA won't allow that cause that would mean skipping at least one year release.
@@justinburley8659I got the audio bug again
Thank your for your honest review! So rare to see these days. I will not be paying THAT much for a game with as many bugs as F1 22 had and still has. I can't believe they still haven't fixed them. It's 2023 and you're charging $100 for it! Get over yourselves, EA. And fix those engine sounds while you're at it!
F1 23 at its current state is worth at most 30$ in my eyes. I will be staying with F1 2021 and 2020 for now...
15:32 Mr Beast😱😱😱💀🐐🥶
@@remilacroix122 hahahahahahahahaha
@@freakysquirrel7218me too staying with F1 2016 to 2021.
@@billymays1761i approve it.
The tedium did me in with F1 World. The concept is so strong, and the idea of a slow, RPG like progression over time with an F1 car is so appealing, I wouldnt even mind the strange difficulty curve. But it almost immediately devolves into a half collect-a-thon, half recycling simulator that requires every single operation to be done manually. I felt like all my 15 minutes of racing was buying me in F1 World was 15 minutes of chores to do before the next race.
i dont get the optimism when we see what this bs did to every ea sports game with UT
@@zacharycardoso1681 personally, f1 world is the first time I've heard of the "ultimate team" thing, I don't play any other sports games, so maybe that's just a lack of exposure on my part, but idk, I don't hate the concept is all I'm saying
@@Dyskord1 I don't want to ruin any optimism, I really don't. Problem is: When UT came out in FIFA 09 it was an amazing mode. However, EA realized how much money can be made and turned it into a pay-to-win lootbox simulator after about 5 years and it has been like that ever since. The mode idea is great, the fact EA owns the rights to the game it's in is not...
@@freakysquirrel7218 yeah now that im educating myself on it, sounds like you are right :( really unfortunate considering what this game mode could be if it were handled based on an interest in motor racing instead of profit. oh well, cheers for the comment
@@zacharycardoso1681F1 WORLD at least isnt broken like Ultimate Team for NFL, NHL, and FIFA.
For bad drivers like me there's a huuuuge glitch when you use the flashback function while in the rain, it literally floods the screen with rain particles and fps drops to like 2 wich makes almost impossible to press the button, thanks for the video Alex!
I'd like to them introduce classic f1 cars like they did years ago, I think it's something that's been missing for a long time in f1 games and if they did bring in classic f1 cars they could bring in a scenario mode where you have to re create something happened in a classic f1 race from years gone, I think this has been a great opportunity that the developers have missed
I bought it. I would not buy it if not the handling changes. Just alone those worth the money for me. I can't tell you how frustrating it was to race properly on F1 22 with a pad. Though I still yet to start the game, so if it isn't that much better than I will refund without any question.
Edit: I tried the game out a little in Time Trial to get the feel of it. It's light years better handling wiser than last year's game. It also has a little bit of a learning curve to the new handling. The first time you drive will fell odd. Couple of other things: The podium pass is worthless if you aren't planning to play F1 World. 90% of the rewards are to F1 World. One negative thing I'm experiencing is that nighttime killing my PC. At daylight, I can run the game comfortably with high settings at a stable 75 FPS (That's what my monitor can do). But at night? 40 FPS or lower, even at Ultra Low settings.
I know, i was actually able to compete at Monaco on pad this year
Same reason I've bought it. Especially after now fun GT7 is on pad. F1 had no excuse.
@@head_like_an_orangehonestly same but apparently in the F1 gaming community I'm a ass for saying that as like Gran Turismo is peak gamepad in enjoyability and fun
14:56 the new handling and physics designer at EA / Codemasters is a guy with over 18 years of experience working at Slightly Mad Studios: He is called Casey Ringley.
You also missed a bug: Flashbacks in the wet are HORRIFIC on the GPU.
Also noticed that
I thought my pc was gonna detonate lol
It’s bad on console too
In the same vein of shit performance, night races also tank the framerate for no apparent reason.
And the driver who starts at 22-nd place is known as the P20 starting driver, that's the worst glitch ever.
For the first 3 hours of gameplay, if you are playing regular online, apart from people crashing you out, the game feels stable and quite fun. If you are playing with friends (who can drive) the game is really fun to play. If you are a league racer or casual I recommend getting
Now THATS the review i was waiting to hear him say in his video, but he failed to mention that i think 🤪
Thanks for posting this, it made my decision to get it tomorrow. i have a league on my channel, and now i can tell my drivers that were unsure, that it is worth buying when they have the chance.
Thanks again Brother
i buy this game because mainly of league racing, but better handling is always a welcome
Yeaa I pretty much only do league racing🤷♂️
If you mainly do league racing, these games are always good enough. This one seems like it might be more fun because of the handling (also improved for pad/controller users), force feedback, ers and drs seem a bit more powerful as well. Also about the handling, because it got "easier" on traction but a bit more difficult under braking, I expect races to be even tighter. Being consistent will be even more key.
@@revirdkcalb Exactly! :D
There are many little audio bugs, for example, when the commentary reads out the qualifying order, they will repeat the name of whoever is 18th, for the 20th place person also.
David Grecco? He's a professional podcast sidekick and open mic comic from Schenectady, NY! He used to be in the pipe-fitters union and would go in to bust out the drywall which caused his nasal condition. He was most notably a sidekick on Kenny and the Badger out of Utica but has also done A Guy, 2 Girls and the Man as well as Ronny and the ground weasel from Rochester.
On the topic of handling, its more than just easier, it feels sooooo good. Also the tyre model is fantastic.
It's not easier, there's just proper grip and bite. Go too hard and you'll get snapped, but you aren't sent into an ice slide until you hit the barrier 2km down the road.
Hugely disapointing that there are such game breaking bugs. That said, I am enjoying Career Mode a lot so far with the new handling and updated AI. Didn't realise red flags were so bad! I'm off to disable them now 😬
What’s your hit rate on upgrades
I paid for 8 upgrades and 7 failed on the first attempt
@@kevmystro18 so far so good, not sure exactly how many but only 3 have failed. I think around 4-5 have gone on. I am playing Driver Career though
A problem I've found with this game: BE CAREFUL of viewing race replays in the theater mode of F2 races from driver careers if you also have a my team save. I've had that break my my team save. The thing that annoys me most about this particular issue is I had this exact problem twice on the last game
Look how much is actually renewed, in side to sides you can see minor tweaks, but 98% same models/textures etc... it really is a buggy updated, and you pay fricking 80 euros for it... what the heck.
Thank you for an honest and thorough review. I was going to get F1 23, but not at launch. Too many issues with most games at launch. I'll stick with F1 22 (PS5), and AMS2 for PC. The Gen 2 F1 cars are great in AMS2. 💯👍
If you get chance try 23 ...for your self.
Bruh same here… i want to like f1 23 because playing 22 is aids but it doesn’t even seem worth it now
@@dobbo4596F1 23 cant compete with AMS2 F1 cars. I just tried Them both with wheel and pedals.
Lastly, this is more of a WTF? but can we talk about Jacques Villeneuve's stats? HOW THE FUCK IS THIS DUDE HIGHER STATS THAN HAKKINEN, MANSELL, WEBBER, MASSA & BUTTON??? He literally has better stats in every category than Hakkinen, a 2 time WDC who competed with the driver the game considers (stat wise) the greatest of all time. E.G. Like why does he have 95 experience??? He only competed for 11 seasons, in the 90s and 2000s too. Checo for context has 92 experience.
Fair play for being honest about holding off for now considering you where given the game. Im surprised they didn't pick up the red flag glitch, seems so obvious
Great observations, I'm one of "those people" as you put it, I'm not fast and compared to you I'm standing still :-) I'm on XBox One S using a PAD, auto gears and racing line. (I need all the help I can get tbh at my age), and I rarely go multiplayer and prefer solo. I also play F1 21 & 22.
You've helped me rethink "F1 World". The game throws so many parts, contracts and crew at you it becomes difficult to figure out a strategy. Based on your feedback I dismantled everything from the garage to put me back at 100 tech-level. From this point I've been moving forward through 'Series' challenges making sure I don't overpower the car.
I'm at tech-level 194 and taking on events at 250 level (beating AI on tech-levels in 270's). As you've observed the human player has an advantage out of the box, but I'm actually enjoying it very much now that I've got rid of all the OP parts and mods. Starting at the back of the grid to get to 10th/5th is good fun.
Equally not happy that the Practice Session "Qualification" run is still bugged, it's even worse in Driver Career F2 as you can't even put the recommended tyres on the car.
Overall, I'm actually very happy buying the Campions Edition (so far).
It's the brake balance that's the game changer for me. You need to be on top of it as the tyres age otherwise you'll snatch the rears.
Personally I'm not bothered with Braking Wind, errr I mean Point, or any of the other contrived game modes - I just play the Grand Prix mode.
FFB wise I preferred F1 22, 23 just feels... heavy and there was more info in 22, but you could argue that it gives weight to the cars making a bit more realistic. That said there's not that much in it.
All in all I'm enjoying it. That said there's a ton bugs to be removed.
Edited to add that: Red Flags being unusable is a big Red Flag - I'll get my coat.
Yeah red flags being a main feature that doesn’t even work is bad even for EAs pathetic standards
How do you adjust brake balance? I've been having a lot of problems with the tyres (I feel they are destroyed in lap 5). I tried adjusting tyre pressure but no matter what I put tyres feel horrible after 4 or 5 laps. Never in any F1 game I've experienced this situation.
The brake bias needing to be changed as tires age is actually very realistic. As the tires get older you cant push the car so much, so you need to move the bias further forward.
@@pat_rick2419 Allright, thanks, I'll try it. Hope I can fix ot at least a little bit. It's frustating seeing the AI go 1 second or so faster when I enter lap 5/6.
David Greko, one of the lead devs said that if you increase your ffb to over 70, you’ll start to lose some feeling in the wheel. Try putting it at 70 and see how it feels. I personally like having it heavier though
The problem of Braking point is that most of the times the player has to gain like 64 positions in 3 laps, and of course the IA has to go 3-4 seconds slower than the player in order to make it possible to recover so many position in such few laps. They should have given the player more laps to gain the desired amout of position, i.e. instead of giving 6 laps to gain 5 positions and making the IA go 3 seconds slower they could have given the player 30 laps of time with the IA only 0.5 seconds slower
the problem is that is I think people would complain the story takes too long. but I agree it doesn't feel like a challenge when you're 3 seconds faster than the other cars.
@@gorilla8927They also lack of choosing team like 2021 version although understand you play in new team
@@gorilla8927 They could have made the Braking Point mode as it is PLUS a level called "very hard" or something like that in which the positions you have to recover and the laps you have at your disposal are scaled in a way that does not require the IA to go 4 seconds slower than the player in order to make the challenge possible to win. As it is now it's so easy that I could win even driving with keyboard. But what can you expect from a team of developers who called Jaques Villeneuve "Fantozzi Villeneuve" in the game ?
Wel done for being so honest. Refreshing. I suspect many a simracer really only uses 3 modes - hotlapping/practice, single player ad-hoc racing versus AI and multi player. These werent mentioned much; perhaps a follow-up vid?
I have a different opinion, but it is different because i do not play carreer mode at all, no braking point. I only play online and league racing.
Things that are better:
- Handling, however, they need to make more challenging on rain. Now it is just too easy. Maybe get the visibility worse or someting to let the experience better. Brake bias are nice but they need to punish more when you lock the rears. Otherwise people will use this to improve lap time by drifting (i.e Monaco - turn 6, Canada turn 10)
- time trial leaderboard: That is awesome that they included all platforms;
- contact model: When you make contact to another car in the last game, the cance of spinning was really high. Now it is improved, however when you clip somone on the rear, the car spins immediatelly which is not nice. Yesterday on PSGL social race, it looks like this happened with Jarno/Bari
- Online stability: I must say that this improved a lot. Last game was just horrible and we can see that they made a step forward on this area.
BUgs/ things to be changed :
- Lost of FFB on fanatec wheel.
- They dont allow play time trial on rain
- Car disapeering during online races
- Streaming using twitch on xbox not working
Overall, for those who play online and not againist Ai, it is a good game. But i agree that the issues raised on this video are pretty hard to accept. Specially Ai difficulty, which makes the experience pretty boring even for non esport players.
I'll wait for the patches. Lets hope the bug fixes does not ruin the online experience as it happened last game.
I hated f1 22 so much that I’ve been waiting for f1 23 to come out since December. I think I only have about 70 hours on f1 22!
Yeah only 70 hours, almost 3 full days of playing
600 hours on 2020 30 hours on 22🥲
A friend of mine got given a wheel and mentioned to me the game was releasing. I wasn't too on top of it. For various reasons I'd not played 21 and 22 and i used a controller. I had to map that differently and turn on all assists as I just cant coordinate triggers and bumpers and all that.
I've only just recently upgraded to win10 after a graphics card upgrade, I replaced my standard 1050 with a 4060ti and installed 2021, after playing through 2020 again. I was part way through the first round when my friend mentioned he got his brother's old wheel and 23 was releasing.
Motivated by recent PC upgrades, I thought why not and looked for my own wheel. Picked up a brand new G29 and started 2021 again. My friend was already playing his early access 23 and we were sharing experiences of getting used to a wheel and what assists we were using.
I couldnt afford 23 and didn't know when i'd be able to so my friend just goes and buys it for me.
So for me, racing with a wheel for the first time in about 20 years, and the new cars, new tracks, there's more than enough to make me love the new game. I basically have to learn all t eh tracks again and learn how to drive again, so before each career mode round I go into the time trial of that track and get comfy with it.
There's a massive difference between time trial and the my team car. Setups that felt good in TT likely wont work on your my team car. I struggle with setups a lot too. I dont know the nuances of setting up, what each track requires. I just spend ages tweaking it until I get something I can drive, trial and error.
I'm absolutely pleased (in a good way) to hear that you are struggling with the quali programs. Luckily we dont get them every round. I was gutted as I forced myself to skip it first time I got it, but i feel a lot better about that now.
I've found I tend to start the first season on 90, and bump it up to 94 for second season, I'm quite bad relatively. I thought with a wheel I'd go straight to 94. But it was just a bit too high. one thing that really, really annoyed me is you cant change the AI level in this case, you have to wait for the next round, so if you set it too high you basically have to junk round one. I ended up starting a new team just to change the difficulty. I dont understand why its locked out. Back in 2020 you had access to it on the pause options on the loading screens. Bad luck if you set it too high now.
Overall I'm really enjoying the challenge of learning how to drive with a wheel and had a blast on Jeddah for the first time a few days ago, learning the track in time trial and taking it to career. Looking forward to others I havent raced yet, Miami, Imola, Las Vegas. I'm not at all a sweat so I'm finding more to enjoy rather than not.
Why has not a single reviewer, including this one, given us any feedback on the state of VR in the game? This is the only significant new feature to appear in the game last year and this year. We need to know!
If you try and catch up on the real-world calendar in Grand Prix mode on 3-lap or 5-lap races, even if you went from last to first and doing all sorts to get Driver of The Day, it still shows your selected driver. On my save, the commentators would say that it's Alex Albon since race 2. It is still the case when I switched the commentary into another language. Funny that.
Isn't there an option to turn off the commentators in this game?
@@IGG2002 I don't mind them on. If I did turn it off, I wouldn't have caught this.
At the end of the second year of my solo career, I had a huge bug. When I wanted to advance time, the clock started turning, but nothing happened. Even deleting and reinstalling the game did not help. Another bug that still is in the game is that when you reach maximum levels of reputation and performance in Braking Point in the last race, you will not get the trophies for it. Seems like very easy to fix, but they didn't. Disappointing.
I am enjoying F1 23 quite a bit at the moment.
With the changes of the handling model combined with changes they have also made to the controller, F1 23 as an extremely fun driving experience. (Unlike F1 23)
I do agree with the majority of the “bad” points you made. F1 Worldnhas potential imo just needs some tweaking and ironing out, it’s clearly going to be the future of these games let’s be real.
For me the game is worth it purely for the much better driving experience. Bought every codies F1 game too haven’t enjoyed playing the F1 game this much since F1 2020.
The bugs need fixing ASAP though It is rather embarrassing from EA/Codemasters to make a big deal about Red Flags returning just for them to be broken from launch.
Despite this, I’m really enjoying the game and having fun which is the main thing.
Honestly I went out and bought a wheel and playseat because of how bad 22 handling was with the controller. I've been playing racing games with the controller for over 15 years and I've never experienced such bullshit. Even Dirt Rally, which is a Sim handled better.
Imo one of the biggest things you've left out is the blurry image. The Antialiasing options are all bad, and turning them off in the config file reveals a game that does not look like 1080p when run at 1080p. It's so bad it becomes difficult to see distance boards on the side of the tracks.
Just wait till US GP Weekend, when the game gets 50% discount . Many bugs + Balance updates will be there by that time + setups
Why is it so hard for them to allow difficulty to be customized in different modes like you can on the normal modes?
my main problem with f1 games since 2021 has been the variety of cars, this year you get the 2023 f1 cars, the 2022 f2 cars and that's it (i don't count super cars cos its an f1 game not assetto corsa) f1 2020 had 2019 and 2020 f2 cars, the 2020 cars, loads of classic cars and mods that would let you play the entire 2002, 2003 and 2007 f1 seasons. f1 imo needs to make a classic f1 game or something with loads of old and new cars in.
IMO the grip level of the tire should go down one or two clicks. where F1 22 had to steep of a drop F1 23 takes too long when the tires are at their limit. IRL drivers can just full throttle all the way without spinning out (burnouts), but it severely impacts their cornering speeds and stability as well as damaging the surface which can lead to blistering and less grip
when i play series in f1 world i’ve been getting multiple events where everyone including me is on wets. when you get to the big race at the end, all the ai do is pit for more wets. you can edit your race strategy but only to inters, you can box for slicks however, just have to do it in MFD midrace. it’s very strange cause it’s all in the dry too, i even checked my settings to make sure my weather was on dynamic (it was) but that was a setting that couldn’t be changed.
I pretty much stopped dead with this series at F1 2017, only recently picking 2018 and 2020 from the bargin bin as EB Games clears more shelf space for PS5. Much like my other favourite annual sports franchise NHL, it simply wasn't worth forking out the money every year for incremental updates. With them seemingly investing so much energy into a story mode I care very little for, and the superfluous Sims-eqsue F1 Life garbage, I hold little hope of seeing the imrprovements I'd like to see.
Thanks for the review. I'm really enjoying the fact that the driving on controller has been improved - it definitely feels much better than previous games, which I've found to be a bit of a nightmare at times. I think cockpit view has become my favourite way to play.
I want a demo before I commit, if the handling is vastly improved I'm somewhat tempted but no chance I'm sinking ~£60 into this like with F1 22 for it to be a hot mess.
Why do they struggle to add the same atmosphere from breaking point into driver career. Would be so easy
"im a bit of a sweat and it was too easy to overtake" continues to go on the grass to overtake hahahahaha
I got some
1. Playing a splitscreen race at Vegas and crashing makes it go at 10fps(Xbox series s)
2. Doing a instant replay in the rain is unbearable(series s)
3. I went from 16 to 8 in one start
4. In the middle of my race in Imola in my team, the damage model randomly stop working, I had to reset the game for it to work.
5. Cars can have engine faliures on lap one
6. Engine failures don’t bring out saftey cars or vc
Is the focus bug from 2021 and 22 still there? I'm talking about the bug that when playing career or My Team, all the AI driver's "focus" stat keep falling in the red with no real way to boost them back up to green, which leads to a grid that constantly makes mistakes and drive like shit by the time you get to your second season, and F2 drivers and icons being really good and consistent because they're the only ones in the green.
If it has EA on it then it’s not going to be on my PC. It’s a shame they had to taint a developer I’ve enjoyed games by for 30 odd years by buying them, it was a good run & all good things come to an end. First time I can recall were there will be no single seater racer for me to get my racing fix. Started with Revs on the BBC Master in the 80s & until 2020. It all started with Geoff Crammond.
I want to get an f1 game for using on a ps4 pro. Would you say F1 ‘21 or 2023 would be the better game to buy just for career mode?
Other than that is there many differences?
I’m not going to buy the 2022 version I’ve heard it’s not so good.
From what i can see, i think f1 23 is just f1 22 with better handling, less aggressive ai, an unfunctional red flag system which totally messes up the results, and a story mode. Oh and 2 new tracks with Qatar and Las Vegas. I really can't see much improvement from last year and im disappointed about it. Im just gonna wait for the price to drop down the line, and im gonna pick it up from there. Fingers crossed the annoying bugs with the red flag results, and the rev limiter sound are gonna be fixed until then.
So it's actually not like F1 22 at all then?
take a chill pill abit, game patch should be roll out soon
I got the normal f1 23 on Wednesday rather than Friday so yes that’s good. One big problem with the game is that the ai speed on the straights is so broken. Even in just a normal race. It’s like their downforce amount in between corners changes. Like they are so fast and grippy on the corners and they can still power past you on the straight. Even if you have a lower downforce on your car they still beat you. Ik there are different factors for bad straightline speed like an exit from a corner or DRS and ERS. Yet when you run a higher downforce, you can hardly get near on the ai in the straights and the ai still are good in the corners. I do think they should add more ai mistakes and also make the ai have different set ups. I do think they need to add better damage physics. Like with front wings. You can only seem to break off the emplates or the entire wing. I also think they need to add damage to barriers. This could justify red flags even more. But this is probably one of the most promising games that EA have ever made
You need a better setup is what it sounds like.
Don’t add downforce for cornering. Add a FR and RR balanced medium ti high toe for better cornering speeds. Lower downforce slightly to balance out the grip. And you should be up there with em. However I stopped playing all EA made games due to their lack of integrity for making a sim racing game fail, again. So I moved to Asseto and iRacing. Much cleaner people out here. It’s like heaven.
@@OwltheWho if you aren’t playing ea games then you clearly haven’t seen much of what the ai have been like. The ai speed has been broken since last years game
Fun fact: That "GPU maxing out during cutscenes" isnt new. COD MW 2019 has had the same issues.
My favorite bug is the one in braking point where they are going they the starting grid, they calll hulk stroll and noah also gets called stroll.
It feels like from what I've seen F123 is not worth buying unless it's heavily on sale. No improvements to career mode, the obvious bugs at the start of the launch cycle and features like the new tracks and braking point 2 (oh my god, how I came to loathe story modes in sports games, they are always garbage, they can't even make a stable game, what made them think they're hollywood writers all of a sudden) could've just been a dlc for F122. The new handling could've also just been patched into F1 22, paying 80 € for those miniscule improvements that could've just been a patch is asinine.
I've never heard of this series, but thanks to Grand Turimso it helped me tremendously with the driving aspect and knowing apexes. It cures my go-kart fix thats forsure during the winter times lol.
This is why i've stuck with 2020, i mean i want to try the new one and co-op career but all these bugs are disappointing
This is the 1st F1 game I won't be picking up since 2018. The franchise certainly seems to have gone down the typical EA road for me. We'll see how next year looks but I'll save my money this year round.
F1 Arcade is currently using rFactor2 which says alot. Hopefully in 2025, F1 licenses a different company. Codemasters under EA has gone to shit.
Yup. I've played thousands of hours of F1 2018 - F1 22, but no more. F1 22 was super disappointing it seems that F1 23 is more of the same. I'll only try a codemasters F1 game again when they make major changes like create or use a new game engine, but until then I'll just stay on other sims.
@@jphgaming6391 Facts!
@@jphgaming6391 pinpointed my thoughts exactly! AI still are very easy to push around, loads of bugs, new features aren’t good, nothing on myteam, and the price is ridiculous. Makes u wonder what they were doing all year
@@11sHangarF1 games are gonna be with EA for a very long time 😂
I bought the champions edition and I have major problems with ffb but even with problems it is my favorite f1 game since 2013 due to the handling and ai alone
Not sure if anyone is talking about this but in TT there is no wet TT so you can't test wet setups unless you go into Grand Prix mode and set the weather to full wet and do a practice/quali session with it.
I’m pretty new to f1 and have never touched a game before, so I’m not using a full racing setup like half the people here most likely, but I got it on ea play on my pc and I’ve been really enjoying it. Building up your team in career mode has been really enjoyable too imo. Again, I’ve never played a F1 game before so it could just be that stars in eyes honeymoon phase but I have played for over 20 hours as of now. I will say I’m struggling to fine tune the AI, I’m either winning races by 20 seconds or unable to crack the top 10. Will likely take some more driving and fiddling to get it perfect.
Can we talk about zandvoort track acclimation having the drs zone marked on the ground in the old spot
I appreciate the honest review Alex. Makes me wonder if I've made the wrong decision ordering it for Friday based on the pre release hype. I couldn't stand the poor handling and AI experience on F1 22 anymore so these past few months I've turned to F1 2020 as a substitute. Makes you wonder if there's any point in releasing the games in early summer. At least there were less bugs in games released in August where they had more time to iron them out.
Wondering myself, but I had so much fun on 2020, less so on 21, then avoided 22; maybe 23 will fill the void and be fun anyway after having a break from the game.
Anyway, we've done it now, so just play and enjoy what you can.
@@alpharaciing Agreed, looks like I was wrong to have a slight bit of hope that F1 22 was just a one off.
@@head_like_an_orange Yeah F1 2020 will always be my favourite game. The only thing that kept me playing F1 22 was co-op. As long as the handling feels satisfying and the AI are able to be raced I should still have some fun on this game.
‘Why the hell was this not spotted by their QA department?’
What makes you think it wasn’t spotted? I’ve worked in software QA for 20 years including a bunch of game QA and I’m very much over QA being blamed for this sort of thing. Odds on it was spotted, it was known about and the project management made the call to ship on schedule rather than delay.
maxing out on interviews is the same like being not in race in F1 manager. In the race, my GPU was perfectly fine, but when in menus, it went nuts.
Can I also tell you guys a story of my latest multiplyer bug out?
Started a 35% race in Melbourne, raced to lap 9 then my engine malfunctioned and caused a red flag. During this red flag I could change my strategy.
When the race kicked back off, I was on the grid without control of the car. I manually retired from the race at the finish line. This caused my car to stay on the track as there was no run off area, causing 2 safety cars one straight after my car was left and the second 20ish seconds after the last safety car ended.
My friend managed to race up to 1st during this nonsense and when the race ended he came 4th and was 19seconds off 1st place, despite overtaking the winner a lap prior
I have the champions edition , no bugs and im really loving the game
Great review. I'm still playing F1 2020 and will probably buy this one on sale at some point. I only play the My Team mode and do online leader board hot laps so the handling updates are the main selling points for me.
Glad I'm not the only one still on F1 2020
How to fix equal cars in coop after lots of testing this is it. F1 world, GP multiplayer, settings, change cars to F1 2023, then to simulation settings and turn off equal cars back to main menu and created your coop series, what I personally did was not changing anything in the settings and went straight to picking a team and then lobby to invite a friend after all my buddy joined I changed the settings without issue and equal performance was off!
Thank you for your honesty, i know you play this game alot and surely can be easily influenced to being bias, cause i know you love so much (so do I), thanks again. I'll wait for that discount.
The game doesn't need a story, it just needs to be a good racing sim.
It's like Football Manager, when they do the tweaks to fix a bug or change a font, or background colour and claim it is a new feature. Yearly games are just not going to make wholesale changed year on year, and they know players will still buy
Here’s one for you: there’s an F1 event called the Community Grand Prix. The week before a real world race you can set a quali lap for that track (This week is Canada). When you quali, it warns you you’ll be locked with assists you use for a community race that weekend. I thought sure that makes sense, you should use the same settings you qualified in for the race. But it actually locks you in to those assists from all F1 World activities, including single player. So while I’m 10+ seconds ahead of the AI doing a Series I can’t even practice driving with no ABS or TC 🤣
Thanks for the review mate. I just added this game to my library on my playstation account. They are giving it away for free with playstation plus this month, so I thought why the hell not. It's been over 10 years since I've played an F1 game so it should be good just to race around casually every now and then. I will even give the career mode a go too.
For me, the biggest downside is that you can't change the F1 calendar in career mode. Yes, you can add or remove some tracks in the career mode, but you are solely limited to the ones provided and you can't change the order.
I have this Idea, I believe F1 23 was built using the early code of F1 22 or 2021 before the patches were rolled out throughout 2022
Another thing I wish could happen: Let us use Time Trial with our own cars on My Team with "Equal Performance OFF". You can only use them with EP ON.
Alex you need to make a control pad public service announcement. It you hold the analog steering stick forward and roll the stick round to the left or right you will steer as smooth as you would with a wheel. Stick pushed forward at twelve o’clock, steering wheel will be straight in game, as you gradually roll the stick round to the right 1 o’clock 2 o’clock then finally 3 o’clock the wheel in game will turn smoothly and 3 o’clock will be full lock right. Same turning left stick pushed and held forward rolled round to left 9 o’clock is full lock. This is a game changer if this doesn’t make sense please contact me. If it does try it for yourself realise it’s a game changer and let your fans know it’s probably taken 4 seconds off my lap times
I noticed the performance issue on xbox series x aswell. During a cutscene on braking point the fan really speeds up and my xbox becomes heathrow airport so hopefully a patch sorts that.
the game is currently free for PlayStation players with PlayStation plus
Okay so basically the game didn't get tested properly and we're expected to pay 70€ for a glorified BETA once again.
But hey, the handling isn't utter dogsh*t anymore. Amazing.
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Im very dissapointed to F1 23, the worst bugs from 22 is gone (almost the worst and predictable AI in racing history). F1 2020 is the best so far, after that everything goes very wrong! They shold restart from 2020 and try to do a sim with good physics and smart AI. Skip breaking point and supercars, and put all time and energy to do a normal based on F1 2020.
bugly: during a SC you get a raw strategy, only when I open the MFD for a new strategy I only see a small screen at the bottom right, without seeing the whole strategy selection. More people experiencing this?
Yes mate I’m getting the same
@@jeeziRacer welcome to the club mate haha
Excellent review , the best I have seen yet. You give the important info that one actually want to know about. Thank you
The only bug I came across is the music. When u are sitting in front of a computer in career mode it doesn't play, you have to go into setting go to music and back out of settings.
How is it that they can realise games year on year that are a long way from being completed?
Good video. A point on F1 World being too easy or making parts that are worse. You can define the difficulty for the F1 World by manually increasing or decreasing the AI tech level. That also increases or decreases the rewards, so not that big of an issue.
I saw someone say that on Reddit, how do you do that?
@@yledbetter10rob42 in the settings in the pause menu. Unfortunatelly it is not available for series but it is for GP.
Whenever I spectate or watch a cutscene for too long, my PS5 digital is on the brink of blowing up, and I occasionally get the "turn ps5 off, its too hot" warning... this game is so fun, but that just cannot happen with a 80 euro game
I would argue that this title is one of the greatest in TH-cam history.
5:36 that’s a very realistic Verstappen simulator tho
For me I prefer the 22 handling on pad it's nice that you can catch slide easier but I absolutely hate the fast steering on the straights it feels so unrealistic
1:46 i disagree. i play acc on a pad and i tuned it so that it feels as close to a wheel as possible, so if i put the stick all the way to one side it will go to opposite lock in-game. but of course i understand not everyone enjoys driving like that
he was probably talking about f1 games
@@Karlywoo_Plays bruh, did you even read my comment? Lmao, I WAS GIVING AN OPINION YOU GENIUS and saying that in another "game" that it is actually possible to go full lock with the controller and just have much more refined steering input. Jeez my man, improve you reading skills a bit aye
I like that we get to answer questions, media, etc. Gave it a bit of immersion. However with the amount of questions, I expected alternative endings. Without alternate ends, it's a bit pointless but still a very good step.
Hey Alex! Great conversation this morning about the after-sprint race tire glitch and red flag glitch. It's amazing to me that the tire glitch still exists after all this time. Another thing that I thought was interesting was, since the beginning of my two-player career, my friend who is in a Ferrari, only got offered medium to hard strategy for the race, while I in a Mercedes was offered a medium soft for every race. Could this fall under the mixed strategy that you mentioned and if so does it make sense to do this to the actual player, rather than just the AI?
It’s Ferrari. They don’t know what a tire is.
The biggest plus of going no abs post f1 23 was that it was the only way to catch a slide on a controller 😅
Hi Alex. thank you and congratulations for your good video. I would like to have your opinion about F1 22 and F1 23. Personally I would like to go towards the version closest to a real simulation. So which of the two versions do you think is the most realistic in terms of "driving" and not necessarily in terms of graphic beauty or sound. Thanks in advance.
F1 23 for me still 9.1 out of 10 despite still had half of the bugs from F1 22 present in F1 23 plus the F1 WORLD and Red Flag rules that are completely broken.
7:42. i’ve done 10 seconds, lapping (all) the ai TWICE in a 25% race, and lapping some ai in a 5 lap race
Great review.
Given the number of issues the games ship with each year, you'd think that EA would just switch to a two-year development cycle with a low-cost expansion/roster update between major releases instead. That would then allow the developers more time to add new features and fix bugs.
Of course, EA would never do that because... well... money... but really, unless you are a die-hard F1 fan, then there really is little reason to buy the game every year as they basically just re-release the same game with tweaks and updated rosters/rules/tracks etc. They remove something one year to reintroduce the next as "new this year", much like they do with the FIFA, Madden NFL and NHL franchises.
I am currently playing F1 23 5 hour trial (down from the previous 10 hour trial) through the GamePass Ultimate subscription for my PC (and Xbox Series X) and think the game is fine but apart from improved lighting, haven't really noticed much in the way of changes in how the game looks, feels or plays personally. All very predictable, very EA, so far.
Hey Alex u forgot the replay system in the rain. It’s buggy af for a few seconds it will drop ur fps so much. Like if u have 120 it will drop to 15 fps that’s insane
Currently upgraded my oneX to seriesS, got 3months gamepass free so downloaded this to play and f1 manager, there's now 45 games on my gamepass to play later list plus the well over 100 digital games already purchased lol, happy days ahead MEGA BACKLOG lol
I would love a retro season and cars etc, like late 90s early 00s roster and modern rules, be interesting see how the oldies but goodies play out that way