That is precisely my mental confusion. Politicians don't realize the optics of these proceedings to the rest of the citizens. They probably do not care if justice is not served. When there is a breakdown in law and order in an important sector of government services, who will resolve the issues? The Governor is busy with pyrotechnic quotes from Shakespeare et al. and SCI cannot interfere with governance in the State (suo moto is not applicable for 'political?' purposes). Is there a Constitutional gap that will simply kick the can down the road?
@@ezekielhall7907 Healthcare is a challenge, especially when service is conflated with politics. Are average persons in the USA or UK (for that matter) satisfied with their access to healthcare? PRC has Draconian measures to control the movement of population. Registering for healthcare in another city takes months. I was referring to the law and order situation. I am struggling to understand how "transferred" is an appropriate response to the doctors' concerns. Pardon me for not taking the bait on the term "affordable" because I have been round the block many more times than I would like to remember.
Absolutely correct !! It’s so funny that a bench comprising of CJI is dealing with daily court cases instead of bringing about reforms in the justice system. Imagine N Nodi going to panchayat n monitoring drain cleaning 😂😂😂😂
CJI has no time to read, listen ...he simply says make your point....common direct the lower courts n give justice. The hurry u show in listening to it, show that in giving decision too
She is telling, though seniors are filling up for juniors, still it's over working for them. So everything is not normal. She is very clearly telling. But he is not understanding 🫨
@@hemashiravanthe6179the home they’re living in is inhabitable. That’s the problem. Some members of the family are trying to fix it up, do repair work while others are trying to keep the kitchen running, feed everyone.
Momota banerjee does not want live streaming and kapil sibal ( the defacto supreme court) also doesn't want live streaming. I for a second thought supreme court will stop live streaming. Because it was kapil sibal who demanded it.. the one who runs the supreme court himself. Why they want to discuss in hiding?
Of course that was misleading. On what data point they concluded 23 death is due to junior doctor's strike. I am no legal expert but I feel Mr. Sibal should be questioned as well for producing the factually incorrect data.
Precisely! CJI accepted Sibal's statement and when SGI and others questioned the correlation of that data point to the junior doctors' actions, CJI cut them off. Highly irregular to outsiders but must be the norm because SGI did not persist, knowing that it would be a lost cause.
Instead of making banquet speeches regularly, Sibal should spend time mentoring junior lawyers on more extensive bases, than merely appending them to his team.
Its time to have parallel courts with equal powers to ensure quick trials, to know who the culprits are and met out appropriate punishment to the accused in really quick time. Doesn't matter if the country has 2 CJs. Meanwhile these kind of conversation can go on for non criminal cases.
Remember, The name Anil Masih (case listened by CJI himself)who was found guilty of misconduct in the mayor election in chandigarh, he is still roaming freely and his supervisor DC Chandigarh at that time, supreme court took no cognigance to fix the responsibility of the govt officer///////,.??? so what we can assume and expect .......? just think
This is a known fact since from the day one. Kapil sibbal & Manu singhvi are experts in misleading the case. In fact it is known to the SC bench also. These two advocates are leading because of the judiciary systems
Indira Jaising is a pain of the highest order. I remember once when I used to practice, she yelled at her junior in the main CJI court corridor. That girl put on a brave smile when Indira walked away but I saw she had watery eyes. Supreme Court is one of the most toxic work cultures.
SC must only focus on what had happened, who were involved, why things were delayed? Why parents were not given time? Why parents requests and rights were ignored?? What is this to do with the strike?? Strike can be handled in lower courts... Really do not understand where is our country going 😡
Trainee doctors can manage the hospital? Working as junior doctors is training.. Legally they have to work under guidance of seniors. They can not work independently.
All diagnosis icu monitoring health checkup are done by junior doctors and house staff they also get stipend money for that.its a college hospital just go and visit a college hospital outdoor with 2 rupee ticket
Absolutely correct. They are trainee and should work under senior doctor. WB govt should have enough senior doctor to run a hospital without the help of junior doctor. If it is less then it’s responsibility of govt to recruit them. It’s a failure of govt only. Why are they blaming junior or trainee doctors for death. Instead it is their responsibility to for any death occur.
@@gauravdas5000 no junior doctor gives diagnosis in a medical college for ipd cases..junior doctor are not supposed to manage icu patients.. If they are doing it then it points towards lack of faculty/senior resident appointments which again points towards failure of state department..
@@pratikk899 have you visited any college hospital outdoor? Even at Delhi AIIMS most of the diagnosis done by junior doctors.some cases like sleep monitoring done by house staff and sr dr.If you want sr dr and house staff only facility go visit any govt hospital not a college hospital
But what is this case about in the first place? Is it not the rape and murder of that particular lady doctor? That should be the crux of the arguments. The safety of the junior doctors, especially the lady doctors, and irregularities in that hospital, etc., should be consequential aspects that the judiciary should pay attention to. The proceedings look replete with diversionary issues as of now... sorry.
The legal discussion is on generic risk management at hospitals - that requires appreciatable quantitative maturity- verbal reasoning will not solve it but very suitable for possible extentention to next hearing and 'redistribution of wealth'! There was intentional under/no use of available security devices, there was strategic motive to fabricate the case it was NOT a case of operational risk management failure-it was collective moral failure -
What sinister lawyer Indira Jay Singh representing the junior doctors and serving the interest of the culprits of West Bengal administration by interfering in the submissions being made by the lawyer representing the senior doctors. Also check out evil stand of the Solicitor General deliberately suppressing material issues in connection with this case
Doctors strike issue must be discussed at a different hearing. And the case must be fought for and against that issue separately and only after that decision needs to be made what the junior doctors need to do. There is another crime happening against the junior doctors. They must file FIR against the government not following CGIs orders about allowing peaceful protest!! This is a separate case altogether!!
What a joke...? Is it parliament where different measures are taken for women safety. Rather than doing these silly discussion please provide justice and punishment to state government, police officer who didn't do their duty properly. All who are accused of raping and murdered the victim.
I actually i cannot understand why this doctor murdered case not been able to identified the culprits. Judges if this is your daughter. What would been your reaction.
If SC is asking doctors to follow the rules because they are studying and working as government servants and their duty of care is patient first. Then "The WB CM is also a government servant and needs to act for harmony and peace. State government also has a duty of care. Common man first!!!!"
What is funny is, Sibal fumbles, murmurs, almost swears and paraphrases each of his lies but he is not stopped the way she is being questioned (and it is the right thing to do to question). He throws claims like men being thrown acid on the face and gets away with it.
Both the counsels representing senior and junior doctors have effectively punctured the veracity of the contemplated actions / status report. Kapil Sibal has no answers to their line of submissions and out-witted in toto. The court could grasp that the state is attempting to white-wash. J.krishnamohan
Given the number of cases from this state, maybe they should consider renaming the institution "The Supreme Court of Waste Bengal". Sibal can be our brand ambassador representing the argumentative bengali😂
Why is doctors strike is discussed in this court? This is waste of time and diverting from main issue!! Here Abhaya's case and her culprits need to be discussed. Why wasting time!!!!! What is the progress in Abhaya's case??
Shame CJI, why have you taken oath on constitution if you can not punish the culprits, shame shame shame, any ordinary person would have given a better verdict than you, you seem to be in a hurry to go back home because its just a 9-5 job for you with no real passion and respect for your duty, complete ly wrong selection for a CJI, I dont know what will happen to me after I post this comment
In other countries, the doctor would had got punish, and civics would had taken over hospital. State would had started running again smoothly You guys should be happy that your country is still talking.
The state govt is getting the audacity of misleading the court bcoz it’s getting inspiration from the SC itself!! CJI should work on reforms in justice system. Donno why the bench is putting its effort of daily cases etc!!
SC must remember that the worst sufferers are the junior doctors because they are losing vital days in their training period while biggest gainers are Kapil Sibal and his company due to prolongation of the case. So it is clear who has got better advantage of cease work.
Why Mrs. Nundy gesturing with hands and fingers. Really appearing inappropriate. What is her actual focus on the behalf of Senior Doctors? No clarity at all.
2nd wife of CJI is personal physician of CM momta banerjee . So we are in suspicous to give a true judgment . Cji also go vacation with Avisekh . That vis why When Kejriwal or karkhana CM goes jail but incase of Momota always stay order .
Sibal doesnt want people of this country to know details of this case so wants videography to be stopped. He is getting petrified bu the transparency of the court arguments. As simple as that. Shame on Sibal!
This is the reason why SIBBAL wants to stop live streaming of the case in SC.
Dhoti khul gayi 🤣
Exactly!..
Exactly!!!
She just called sibal a lier
Sibal is a hardened criminal and a pathological liar
Supreme court now has become a trial court instead of a constitutional court...it's a shame on the status of "Supreme court".
That is precisely my mental confusion. Politicians don't realize the optics of these proceedings to the rest of the citizens. They probably do not care if justice is not served.
When there is a breakdown in law and order in an important sector of government services, who will resolve the issues? The Governor is busy with pyrotechnic quotes from Shakespeare et al. and SCI cannot interfere with governance in the State (suo moto is not applicable for 'political?' purposes). Is there a Constitutional gap that will simply kick the can down the road?
@@MathaGoram Is there a constitutional gap that can transform afforable healthcare into a mortuary?
@@ezekielhall7907 Healthcare is a challenge, especially when service is conflated with politics. Are average persons in the USA or UK (for that matter) satisfied with their access to healthcare? PRC has Draconian measures to control the movement of population. Registering for healthcare in another city takes months.
I was referring to the law and order situation. I am struggling to understand how "transferred" is an appropriate response to the doctors' concerns.
Pardon me for not taking the bait on the term "affordable" because I have been round the block many more times than I would like to remember.
Absolutely correct !! It’s so funny that a bench comprising of CJI is dealing with daily court cases instead of bringing about reforms in the justice system. Imagine N Nodi going to panchayat n monitoring drain cleaning 😂😂😂😂
CJI has no time to read, listen ...he simply says make your point....common direct the lower courts n give justice.
The hurry u show in listening to it, show that in giving decision too
CJI keeps interrupting Karuna ji 😢
it is clear he is tryimg to save mamata.
may be he has some larger interest
Why Sibbal is not barking anymore??
She has shoved her replies into his mouth and stopped his barking
Kapil is a Barking street dog n keeping quiet always after GTG laths all around 😂😂😂
She is telling, though seniors are filling up for juniors, still it's over working for them. So everything is not normal. She is very clearly telling. But he is not understanding 🫨
In a home family member helped if anyone sick or busy.where is the problem
@@aamywinwin3439 and burnout happens, which will be very dangerous to family
@@hemashiravanthe6179the home they’re living in is inhabitable. That’s the problem. Some members of the family are trying to fix it up, do repair work while others are trying to keep the kitchen running, feed everyone.
Justice for DR. Momitha
Momota banerjee does not want live streaming and kapil sibal ( the defacto supreme court) also doesn't want live streaming. I for a second thought supreme court will stop live streaming. Because it was kapil sibal who demanded it.. the one who runs the supreme court himself. Why they want to discuss in hiding?
Bcoz hanky panky can best be done under wraps n it’s seems a mockery of judiciary is what happening there at the court !!
If SC can't provide justice, who can ?
Shame on Sibbal
Shame on WB government
Shame on Colonial justice system.
Of course that was misleading. On what data point they concluded 23 death is due to junior doctor's strike. I am no legal expert but I feel Mr. Sibal should be questioned as well for producing the factually incorrect data.
Precisely! CJI accepted Sibal's statement and when SGI and others questioned the correlation of that data point to the junior doctors' actions, CJI cut them off. Highly irregular to outsiders but must be the norm because SGI did not persist, knowing that it would be a lost cause.
Sibbal before you leave the world do some good work...
Instead of making banquet speeches regularly, Sibal should spend time mentoring junior lawyers on more extensive bases, than merely appending them to his team.
Kapil sibbal sharm karo
Its time to have parallel courts with equal powers to ensure quick trials, to know who the culprits are and met out appropriate punishment to the accused in really quick time. Doesn't matter if the country has 2 CJs. Meanwhile these kind of conversation can go on for non criminal cases.
"Rathirer Sathi" - have become "Rathirer Khooni"
Rapistder Sathi
Justice for Tilottama !👌
Remember, The name Anil Masih (case listened by CJI himself)who was found guilty of misconduct in the mayor election in chandigarh, he is still roaming freely and his supervisor DC Chandigarh at that time, supreme court took no cognigance to fix the responsibility of the govt officer///////,.??? so what we can assume and expect .......? just think
well said - all this is a joke
Maa-Baap ki Doctor Bani hui Aklouti Beti Chali gai, Aur Kuch nahi. Sab Dikhawa hai.
,
Its clearly seen SCJ is bisa for WB Cm to her mafia workw
If not why it drag slowly wants to stop soctors protest
This is a known fact since from the day one. Kapil sibbal & Manu singhvi are experts in misleading the case. In fact it is known to the SC bench also. These two advocates are leading because of the judiciary systems
Sad. They stoop down to that level for money.
Mr. Sibbal, you should be careful while laughing in the court .
Indira Jaising is a pain of the highest order. I remember once when I used to practice, she yelled at her junior in the main CJI court corridor. That girl put on a brave smile when Indira walked away but I saw she had watery eyes. Supreme Court is one of the most toxic work cultures.
Shame! Shame this is our political scenarios across the country in this present time now
SC must only focus on what had happened, who were involved, why things were delayed? Why parents were not given time? Why parents requests and rights were ignored?? What is this to do with the strike?? Strike can be handled in lower courts... Really do not understand where is our country going 😡
Praying to God so that CBI might get a break through in this case 😌🙏🙏🙏😊
WB needs emergency rule.. the state government is absolutely incapable
बहुत ही दुख की बात है कि एक बेटी की जान चली गई थी फिर भी अक्ल नहीं है कि इसका विरोध इतने दिनो तक चल रहा है।
This judge representing the doctors speaks well.
Is this lawyer Karuna Nundy?
Trainee doctors can manage the hospital? Working as junior doctors is training.. Legally they have to work under guidance of seniors. They can not work independently.
All diagnosis icu monitoring health checkup are done by junior doctors and house staff they also get stipend money for that.its a college hospital just go and visit a college hospital outdoor with 2 rupee ticket
Absolutely correct. They are trainee and should work under senior doctor. WB govt should have enough senior doctor to run a hospital without the help of junior doctor. If it is less then it’s responsibility of govt to recruit them. It’s a failure of govt only. Why are they blaming junior or trainee doctors for death. Instead it is their responsibility to for any death occur.
@@gauravdas5000 no junior doctor gives diagnosis in a medical college for ipd cases..junior doctor are not supposed to manage icu patients.. If they are doing it then it points towards lack of faculty/senior resident appointments which again points towards failure of state department..
@@pratikk899 have you visited any college hospital outdoor? Even at Delhi AIIMS most of the diagnosis done by junior doctors.some cases like sleep monitoring done by house staff and sr dr.If you want sr dr and house staff only facility go visit any govt hospital not a college hospital
We demand Justice for RG KAR
J.C. HAVE LOOK FOR MANIPUR U.P MAHARASHTRA AND M.P. ALSO NOT FOR BENGAL ONLY THEY ASLO SISTERS OF INDIA. DO NOT DO IN JUSTICE TO THEM .
I am sure that Honourable Justice Pardiwala (in particular) wants a swift delivery of Justice I have full faith in him.
Rot class judge
Is the supreme Court favoring the Accused?? 😮😮😢😢😢
But what is this case about in the first place? Is it not the rape and murder of that particular lady doctor? That should be the crux of the arguments. The safety of the junior doctors, especially the lady doctors, and irregularities in that hospital, etc., should be consequential aspects that the judiciary should pay attention to. The proceedings look replete with diversionary issues as of now... sorry.
Yeah same question
Fr. Diverted from the issue
The legal discussion is on generic risk management at hospitals - that requires appreciatable quantitative maturity- verbal reasoning will not solve it but very suitable for possible extentention to next hearing and 'redistribution of wealth'! There was intentional under/no use of available security devices, there was strategic motive to fabricate the case it was NOT a case of operational risk management failure-it was collective moral failure -
Sibal is a professional, he will shamelessly exploit all options to safe guard his client
Why this argument? Instead of finding the culprits!
Live streaming should not be stopped🙏
Alarming
CJI is impatient to hear from any counsel other than KAPIL SIBAL.....
Justice for Kolkata lady Dr
What will happen after Sri Chandrachud retires.
He is the best CJI during our lifetime
What sinister lawyer Indira Jay Singh representing the junior doctors and serving the interest of the culprits of West Bengal administration by interfering in the submissions being made by the lawyer representing the senior doctors. Also check out evil stand of the Solicitor General deliberately suppressing material issues in connection with this case
Doctors strike issue must be discussed at a different hearing. And the case must be fought for and against that issue separately and only after that decision needs to be made what the junior doctors need to do. There is another crime happening against the junior doctors. They must file FIR against the government not following CGIs orders about allowing peaceful protest!! This is a separate case altogether!!
What a joke...? Is it parliament where different measures are taken for women safety. Rather than doing these silly discussion please provide justice and punishment to state government, police officer who didn't do their duty properly. All who are accused of raping and murdered the victim.
totally agree
Why blaming cbi.give justice to this case then proceed to other
Correct same question i have also
Same question.. what can the court do about doctors safety
I actually i cannot understand why this doctor murdered case not been able to identified the culprits. Judges if this is your daughter. What would been your reaction.
If SC is asking doctors to follow the rules because they are studying and working as government servants and their duty of care is patient first. Then "The WB CM is also a government servant and needs to act for harmony and peace. State government also has a duty of care. Common man first!!!!"
These lady lawers cms or really wants justice
Wet want justice
What is funny is, Sibal fumbles, murmurs, almost swears and paraphrases each of his lies but he is not stopped the way she is being questioned (and it is the right thing to do to question). He throws claims like men being thrown acid on the face and gets away with it.
Mr.Sibal ... How much money you ask to W.B. Govt for laying. Just Shameless Sibal
It is time India’s Supreme Court moves from using British terms . Quite cringeworthy to listen to …. “My lord my lord “
Justice comes from the barrel of a gun.
Both the counsels representing senior and junior doctors have effectively punctured the veracity of the contemplated actions / status report. Kapil Sibal has no answers to their line of submissions and out-witted in toto. The court could grasp that the state is attempting to white-wash.
J.krishnamohan
Shame shame for this situation SC
Khela happening full force.
Given the number of cases from this state, maybe they should consider renaming the institution "The Supreme Court of Waste Bengal". Sibal can be our brand ambassador representing the argumentative bengali😂
Case is being diluted systematically
Advocate for senior doctors is too good
Godless West Bengal.
Why is doctors strike is discussed in this court? This is waste of time and diverting from main issue!! Here Abhaya's case and her culprits need to be discussed. Why wasting time!!!!! What is the progress in Abhaya's case??
Shame CJI, why have you taken oath on constitution if you can not punish the culprits, shame shame shame, any ordinary person would have given a better verdict than you, you seem to be in a hurry to go back home because its just a 9-5 job for you with no real passion and respect for your duty, complete ly wrong selection for a CJI, I dont know what will happen to me after I post this comment
With due respect, with this mild voice you can't win against Chibbal...
In other countries, the doctor would had got punish, and civics would had taken over hospital. State would had started running again smoothly
You guys should be happy that your country is still talking.
No interrupt sibal. That privilege is only for him.
Shameless.. kya intentions hai inke.. this'll more elevate the situation badly
Plz tell me the name of the lawyer who is also representing the junior doctors....?????
Learned Senior Advocate Indira Jaisingh
This time the soul test of CJI begun
Till the Doctors...is in strike dharna ...
The state govt is getting the audacity of misleading the court bcoz it’s getting inspiration from the SC itself!!
CJI should work on reforms in justice system. Donno why the bench is putting its effort of daily cases etc!!
Now melow dram is going on in court room.
This is the right time to apply ESMA on priority and strictly....!!
@@indranilDey227 why do you want ESMA, can you elaborate?
Karuna Nandy is not a very upright person.
SC must remember that the worst sufferers are the junior doctors because they are losing vital days in their training period while biggest gainers are Kapil Sibal and his company due to prolongation of the case. So it is clear who has got better advantage of cease work.
Poor manta... don't depend on Bureaucrats...they are the villains😊😊😊
Senior Doctors are feeling safe, but junior doctors are not feeling safe? Means what 🙄🙄
Its true WB govt is misleading court as well as CBI also are diverting the main case..so sarcastic
If justice to be done to the. .murdered ypung lady doctor Mamata Banerjee should stepdown.
This lawyear constantly trying to mislead the CJI but rejected ..
Instead sruguing on the over burden of doctrs what happened rape and murder case.
Shameless government
She should learn to put up points proper way
Why Mrs. Nundy gesturing with hands and fingers. Really appearing inappropriate. What is her actual focus on the behalf of Senior Doctors?
No clarity at all.
2nd wife of CJI is personal physician of CM momta banerjee . So we are in suspicous to give a true judgment .
Cji also go vacation with Avisekh .
That vis why When Kejriwal or karkhana CM goes jail but incase of Momota always stay order .
Shebal is as low as one can get as human it seems in form of lawyer & human most of hos client list says it all about him....
Yeh test match kitna din chalega
That means S C is of no use
.Then stop this drama.
Who is paying for these high profile lawyers ? Junior doctors don't have the money. They are lying. Who is actually funding them?
She is battering the old bum Sibal
Baat nikali to
Har ek baat pe
Rona aaya.
Khabhi unn pe
Kabhi enn pe......
Sibal doesnt want people of this country to know details of this case so wants videography to be stopped. He is getting petrified bu the transparency of the court arguments. As simple as that. Shame on Sibal!
Shame on advocate of terrorists & rap.
Sanjoy Roy Hungry Beast, er sombondhe, Lady Advocate er submission ta 🔇MUTE kore diyeche, ei VDO te. 😢😢😢
Sibal a habitual liar 🤥 when he smells his fees
Poor , Very Very poor arguments !
Evil Sibal😂
Sibal seems to be calling shots,still criminals, includes in government, police are roaming free, waste of time.
How much money will satisfy Mr. sibbal's greed???
Kabil sibol is misleading person.
Correct
3rd party secirity so more money can be made inbetween 😢😢