Chapter 15: Aragog | Chamber of Secrets

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  • @jamma.77
    @jamma.77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Honestly, hearing you talk about the car makes me wish it'd come back in Deathly Hallows, just running down Death Eaters during the battle of Hogwarts.

    • @somerjohns9887
      @somerjohns9887 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That would be fantastic!

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @keelanduffy6024
      @keelanduffy6024 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I wrote that exact thing happening in one of my fanfictions😂

    • @mynameisgrot-x2i
      @mynameisgrot-x2i 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      WHY DIDNT IT omg nooo

  • @a.r11384
    @a.r11384 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    ‘I will only be gone till none here are loyal to me’ it’s bittersweet as Harry remembers and states that line to Rufus scrimgeor at Dumbledore’s funeral 😢

  • @robertgronewold3326
    @robertgronewold3326 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Here is the thing about Myrtle. She was not at Hogwarts for several decades after she died. Her whole reason for coming back as a ghost was to haunt Olive Hornby. She was driving her old bully up the wall, and even did something disastrous at Olive's brother's wedding. It wasn't until Olive made a complaint to the Spirit Division at the Ministry that she came back to Hogwarts and started to haunt the girl's restrooms. Chances are Dumbledore never realized the bathroom ghost was the Myrtle who Voldemort murdered.

    • @thorthewolf8801
      @thorthewolf8801 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Dumbledore tracked down the ministry employee who went to the Gaunts. Aint no way Myrtle being outside of Hogwarts would stop him, and no there is no way he didnt know who died.

    • @robertgronewold3326
      @robertgronewold3326 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thorthewolf8801 Not everyone who dies becomes a ghost. And if the ghost heads off to another part of the world like Myrtle did, you wouldn't readily know that it was the same spirit.

    • @thorthewolf8801
      @thorthewolf8801 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@robertgronewold3326Dumbledore would know who died. Dumbledore would have knowledge about the ghosts of Hogwarts.

    • @ObsessiveGeek
      @ObsessiveGeek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      You can make an argument for a younger Albus not realising Myrtle had become a ghost, though it’s highly unlikely that as Headmaster he never made the connection that a ghost named Moaning Myrtle who haunts a girls toilet wasn’t the same girl who was killed.
      Therefore the only solution is he knows exactly what is attacking and has already confirmed his suspicions from Myrtle, perhaps he even has some measure of control over the situation though is giving Harry the opportunity to solve this challenge himself as another test/learning experience on the path to defeating Voldemort.
      The parts Dumbledore may not be aware of is who it is that’s opening the chamber or that the entrance is in that very same girls toilet Myrtle haunts.
      He’s overall a good person though there’s no need to paint Albus as completely without faults, he’s a very complex character with a lot of burdens to bear and a lot of very logical guesswork on a grand scheme of events on how to defeat the darkest wizard of the time.

    • @thunderslytherclaw
      @thunderslytherclaw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dumbledore may have known the whole time. He consistently proves that he knows more about what’s going on than he lets on.

  • @KyeGuard
    @KyeGuard 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    43:20 - In defense of Lockhart, he wasn't so much as lying about knowing more about Hagrid's arrest than Ron so much as he was...mistaken. Presumably, he knows what all the Teachers know about the arrest, as i don't see why they'd be kept in the dark, and the Teachers should know more than any student as it was a grown-up matter in the middle of the night and not a public event. Ron shouldn't know as much as he does as he shouldn't have even been out of bed when it happened, but since no one knew his invisible self was present they'd of course assume they know more than him. Snape or Mcgonnagal could've made the same statement and it'd have been less a lie and more them being mistaken. Regardless, great series. Most excellent.

  • @ellaser93
    @ellaser93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    I honestly feel that the intelligence of the Ford Anglia shows that Arthur Weasley is low-key one of the greatest artificers in the Wizarding World. It's just that no one (especially himself) ever realized it.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That is one thing that I love about the Weasleys. They are the most magically powerful family in Britain, but either they don't know it or just don't care.
      Heck, that only grows later, as powerful sorcerers marry into the family; Hermione, Harry, Fleur...

  • @thirteenthandy
    @thirteenthandy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Love the thestral car theory. It doesn't have to "be" a thestral. Mr Weasley put the flying and invisibility charms on the car. It may have required thestral hair to be essentially wired into it, giving the car another similarity to the Elder Wand.

  • @davidhowell8407
    @davidhowell8407 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    I would say this chapter has one of the most chilling lines in the series. " But I cannot deny them fresh meat, when it wanders so willingly into our midst, goodbye, friend of hagrid."
    The single most chilling line happens in the fifth book said by Dumbledore but we'll get there when we get there

    • @BeardedTruth
      @BeardedTruth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      “It was foolish of you to come here tonight, Tom.”

    • @robfab5204
      @robfab5204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      now I wanna know

    • @nightwand1742
      @nightwand1742 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      talk about a cliffhanger

    • @CarrotsKing
      @CarrotsKing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It was terrifying playing the original PC Chamber of Secrets game when the spider would bellow BITE HIM MY CHILDREN on repeat.

  • @mistv901
    @mistv901 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love how Hermione is missing strengthens Ron's resolve to face the spiders. Such a great little moment. He holds it together throughout the entire ordeal. Then when their safe, he's like h-hold on a mo- vomit. "Follow the bloody butterflies!" Kinda sad they skipped over those last lines.

  • @mikebrown1881
    @mikebrown1881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I think Aragog wasn’t blind when Hagrid raised him, that’s why he also was afraid by the basilisc. Aragog went blind because he is very old. He got old age cataract.

    • @quanmaryce37
      @quanmaryce37 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Or maybe self induced blindness for protection?

    • @chester6514
      @chester6514 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@quanmaryce37that’s an interesting theory tbh. I can see that happening.

    • @abortz0907
      @abortz0907 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was blinded when Tom riddle tried to kill him

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@abortz0907na, he wouldn't have gotten out of the castle then.

    • @scarlett.23
      @scarlett.23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abortz0907i too always assumed aragog was blinded by tom riddle’s attack (a flash of light too bright for a spider?) and he escaped using his senses (smelling and touch)

  • @RiseeRee
    @RiseeRee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    “I believe you but I’m not taking your advice” is basically Dumbledore’s response to Harry’s complaints about Snape LOL

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Dumbledore had more important things to worry about than Harry complaining about Snape. Greater good and all that.

  • @JaimieAnne
    @JaimieAnne 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    If Myrtle was crying in the bathroom her glasses could have been off

    • @klaudiagrob
      @klaudiagrob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And then, when she heard a voice, she put on her glasses, but her sight has been blurred due to crying.

    • @lotemylife3006
      @lotemylife3006 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh come one, I just thought of that while listening and now someone else already thought of that, that's annoying xD

    • @crissy297
      @crissy297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think that if she had not been wearing her glasses then she would not have been able to see clearly, and then she would have only been petrified. The glasses correct vision. The moment a person looks through glasses when the dont need them their vision is distorted. But the vision of a person who needs glasses is distorted when they arent wearing them. So if harry looked at the basilisk through his glasses he would have died, without them he would have become petrified.

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@crissy297 Also light moves through transparent glass, is reflected by mirrors (water surfaces are the same as mirrors in mytholigy and fairytales) and can be obscured by clouds, fog and smoke.Mirrors were often made of silver and silver wards of evil beeings. The first camera was called camera obscura and later on mirrors were build into cameras as well and we have the film in addion to the lenses and mirrors. Ghosts are like fog, they are cold and are made of somekind of magical substance we don't know. There are signes that the stare of a bsailisk is hot so maybe it behaves like light? This maybe another explanation why the glasses would not help but your explanation is very convincing too.

  • @stewart2590
    @stewart2590 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Thanks guys. Every Sunday morning. I get excited cause i know a new episode of Through the Griffin Door is coming out.

    • @bubblehulk7647
      @bubblehulk7647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I usually forget, go golfing, then remember when I’m putting my pajamas on at noon. Perfect timing!

    • @xAbbieCx13
      @xAbbieCx13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I always suddenly realise in the middle of the day and I get so excited

    • @thequirkyquark
      @thequirkyquark 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's nice to know that we have this to look forward to for the next few years

    • @jackmcconnell5546
      @jackmcconnell5546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I work every Sunday morning at 6am, I show up an hour or so before work so I can listen to the podcast while I eat breakfast. (Unfortunately the video version releases later, but the spotify ver is up wayyy earlier. It's dark, cozy and something I look forward to every weekend morning.

    • @bubblehulk7647
      @bubblehulk7647 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackmcconnell5546that’s the perfect spooky time to listen to stories about magic

  • @ailynrenee1796
    @ailynrenee1796 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It never fails to amaze me how you guys are able to explain why things are missing through the story instead of just saying the writer/writers just forgot or hadn't come up with something yet. Excellent stuff as always!!

  • @LoneWolfLuna28
    @LoneWolfLuna28 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    *Aragog and Shelob fighting over who's scarier*
    Ungoliant: Hold my light.
    (If you know you know)

    • @IdaSantti
      @IdaSantti 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes and also Shelob would eat Aragog for breakfast, no contest

    • @fionarodgers4806
      @fionarodgers4806 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Is "hold my light" supposed to be a reference to how she drank the light of the Two Trees in Valinor?

    • @LoneWolfLuna28
      @LoneWolfLuna28 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@fionarodgers4806 Yes.

    • @PositiveOnly-dm3rx
      @PositiveOnly-dm3rx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who would win Saturn from one piece or ungoliant?

  • @Jae20818
    @Jae20818 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you guys for doing this. Trauma survivors need a sense of familiarity in what we watch & listen to most of the time, but we crave something new. You two and the story are familiar, yet you bring up stuff that makes it new at the same time. Best Podcast Ever!

    • @Vi_Vi_1
      @Vi_Vi_1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that's why this has become such a comfort show for me. I'm excited for their new episodes but love the familiarity of the story and these two brothers I've been following for years :D

  • @K9TheFirst1
    @K9TheFirst1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    For the car being alive, in Japanese folk lore there are Tsukumogami - if an object is loved and well cared for enough it will come alive.
    The only fly in the ointment is that it requires the object to reach 100 years old. But I can see a scenario where Arthur Weasley put so much magic, love, and adoration into the care that it supercharged the process.

    • @joakuz
      @joakuz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love this theory! ❤

  • @kuna3627
    @kuna3627 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Myrtle was not in the Hogwarts after her death, she was haunting Olive Hornby, and only after Olive's complaint to the Ministry, she came back to Hogwarts - we don't know, how many years have passed after her death. Most of the people might not even know, that she was there and she was the victim from the past.

  • @tiinakarmala633
    @tiinakarmala633 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Every time you mention that the spiders don't talk about the creature, I think about "we don't talk about Bruno". And now I'm certain that the basilisk's name is Bruno :)

  • @mikebrown1881
    @mikebrown1881 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    If seeing the reflection of the basilisc’s stare prevents instant death, it would be logical that being blind prevents all the basilisc’s stare effects.

  • @mlove.1376
    @mlove.1376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hey Brothers! Enjoyed today's dive. I always thought that Mr. Weasley put a powerful protection charm on the car to protect his family. And this why the car had allegiance to Ron and since he was treated like family, Harry. I could be wrong, but that was my thought.

  • @TailGunR
    @TailGunR 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think glasses are special cases in Harry Potter. McGonagall and Skeeter have their glasses appear in the pattern of their animal form. Glasses are also considered one of the first human augmentations, which means you can consider them to be part of the wearer.
    This makes me wonder if Moody could be petrified if he accidentally locked eyes with the basilisk through a wall.

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great food for thought !

  • @BeastlyP1g
    @BeastlyP1g 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Is it possible Penelope Clearwater figured out it was basilisk with the help of Hermione? Penelope being a 6th year Ravenclaw Head Girl probably is pretty knowledgeable.

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is clearly mentioned in the book that Hermione told her that it was a basilisk, and to look around the corners with a mirror. If I am not mistaken, it was Penelope's mirror they both used

  • @theaveragegamer5242
    @theaveragegamer5242 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    They give Malfoy to much credit about being a decent person over all. In the Half Blood Prince he was still calling Hermoine a MudBlood, kicked Harry in the face, was learning occulamency to keep secrets from Snape. In the Battle of Hogwarts he was trying to capture Harry and deliver him to the Dark Lord. Malfoy even married a pure blood. His mom didn’t care about people getting tortured or murdered, as long as Draco was fine.

    • @ShmiMonika
      @ShmiMonika 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Fully agree, Malfoys are not good people, they don't turn on Voldemort becuse they change their world views they turn becuse Voldemort in power was no longer beneficial to them and they only truly do it when it is clear Voldemort will lose. If Lucius hadn't failed in Order of the Phoenix they wouldn't be scared in the slightest, maybe Draco would be but as you mention he stiil seemed to hold the same beliefs as his parents and yes that is partily due to how he was raised but the moment he went to Hogwarts his parents were no longer the only influence he had and he had every opportunity to chalenge the views he had been raised with (like Sirius and Andromeda did). Draco had been given a chance over and over again to make the right choice and never took it (hesitating is not the same), his last spoken line (excluidng Cursed Child) is literally him telling a Death Eater "I'm Draco Malfoy, I'm Draco, I'm on your side!".

    • @a.r11384
      @a.r11384 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yeah . Malfoy is really popular because of Tom Felton who seems to be the nicest person but JK herself said malfoy is not a good person at all

    • @damiens4601
      @damiens4601 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree

    • @KudaKeileon
      @KudaKeileon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Draco as a character deserved better, I think. He wasn't a great person, but he was also a teenager who was surrounded by his family's beliefs.
      Dudley got better. Draco could too.

    • @ObsessiveGeek
      @ObsessiveGeek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I do agree overall they aren’t the best family though I do feel Draco does deserve a shot at redemption and I hope the tv series does change the story enough to allow the character to be seen as actively fighting against Voldermort in the end.

  • @stecky87
    @stecky87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Calling Malfoy a "little turd" was one of the funniest things I've heard in awhile

  • @peterpeterpumpkineater9451
    @peterpeterpumpkineater9451 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I never thought of Aragog as being blind, all along, I just figured in his advanced age, he became blind.

  • @Acromion11
    @Acromion11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That fact about two werewolves mating while in wolf form is widely overlooked phenomenon

  • @AliAngelpie
    @AliAngelpie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The basilisk hating the spider webs is every person who has to dust their homes 😅

    • @takumi2023
      @takumi2023 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I keep walking into them =_=. Since I'm the tall one, I tend to walk into the stands of silk across the leaves between trees

  • @SpiritMystery777
    @SpiritMystery777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg, Slytherin's private chamber room is hysterical! And there's Dumbledore using the ROR for a wide array of chamber pots. Lol.

  • @jankatkaromka
    @jankatkaromka 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think that in POA when we see Ron's boggart we see not just any spider, but those spiders that he met in the Forbidden forest.
    So if he was afraid spiders before that, his fobia would certainly get to the new level after.

  • @ulrikruby
    @ulrikruby 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    For the first time I just realized that 50 years ago when the chamber was first opened, there was also a series of attacks before ending in a murder. Yet when they first found Mrs. Norris, Dumbledore didn’t seem to immediately know she was petrified, so what happened with the other attacks 50 years ago, if they didn’t petrify people nor kill them?

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe they were petrified too, and Dumbledore was ruling out other possibilities of death/magically frozen, before concluding that she was indeed petrified.

  • @KirstiMilburn
    @KirstiMilburn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "I have safety googles" cracked me up for a few minutes... Not something I think my family wanted to hear at 1:30am while they were sleeping but i couldn't stop. Thank you J and Ben ( :

  • @RiseeRee
    @RiseeRee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think Myrtle made too much of a nuisance of herself following her death. Remember she specifically haunted Olive Hornby for decades, even going to weddings and possibly other events to mess with her. She was forced by the Ministry to come back to the school, and by that time people would have forgotten about her. It’s not like it was really widely known that the CoS had opened before, and all of her classmates would have long since left the school.

  • @ailynrenee1796
    @ailynrenee1796 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Here's a theory for you guys: Harry can't see thestrals until his 5th year, but the dementors cause him to relive his parents' murders in (eventual) detail as if he saw them. So was it HIS worst memory that was being brought up, OR was it VOLDEMORT'S worst memory (via horcrux) being brought to the surface, and if that's the case, how is the Dork Lord able to stand being around dementors at all??

    • @ambiverter
      @ambiverter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But DO we see Voldemort anywhere near Dementors?
      Or maybe he has figured out some other form of protection against them (I can't imagine him using the Noble Patronus charm)

    • @ailynrenee1796
      @ailynrenee1796 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ambiverter the closest we come, I think, to seeing any Dementors near Voldemort himself is the Battle of Hogwarts. Otherwise, i think when Harry, Ron, and Hermione raid the ministry in Hallows is the only other time we see Dementors in proximity to Death Eaters at all, let alone Voldy. You could maybe count Macnair in Prisoner, when he's at Hogwarts to execute Buckbeak at the same time as dementors but i wouldn't

  • @RancorSnp
    @RancorSnp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This episode when you mentioned the key it made me realize something I never connected the dots on before.
    You often mention how obviously weak the security of fluffy's door is, and that if Umbridge can lock her door in a way allohomora won't wotk, surely Dumbledore can. Which is obviously true, but actually we don't need to go all the way to 5th book to see it possible. In the philosopers stone itself, one of the trails is the flying keys, and that door can not be opened by magic. And when they find the right key, it has one of the wings damaged because Quirrel caught it before. Which means that even Voldemort didn't know the magic to force it open, this is the level of security Dumbledore could have locked Fluffy behind, if he wanted to

  • @LisaKelso-tz4xv
    @LisaKelso-tz4xv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been a fan of this podcast from the beginning, I wanted to tell you that my four week old Great Grandson loves to listen to you guys too. He will calm down and listen to you when he is upset and crying. I believe it is the tone of your voices. Keep up the good work and my Great Grandson and I will continue to watch and listen to you.

  • @romanet-b8569
    @romanet-b8569 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Always the first thing I do when I wake up on my first day off work :D

  • @johnanderson6124
    @johnanderson6124 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

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  • @Datenauflauf
    @Datenauflauf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    57:13 New headcanon: Spiders hate the basilisc because he destroys their webs, and he hates them because they build these annoying webs in his pipes. I love it XD

  • @ladyesmeralda999
    @ladyesmeralda999 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Point about glasses vs blindness when it comes to the Basilisk........
    Prescription glasses are meant to help you see better, meaning that the Basilisk is more effective in it's killing. Realistically, if Harry/Murtle faced the Basilisk WITHOUT their glasses, then they'd actually be more protected, because the Basilisk would be more distorted. Think about it, all the petrifications were because of the Basilisk's image being distorted in some way..... Harry and Murtle are wearing things that actively reverse that distortion.
    P.S: Ben's glasses wouldn't help of hinder in Basilisk based confrontation, because they are fake, and wouldn't affect it in any way..... unless they were SUPER smudged/dirty

    • @IdaSantti
      @IdaSantti 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think Ben even has lenses on his glasses, so literally useless.
      But also, what if you were wearing mirror sunglasses? Would you die and the basilisk be petrified?

    • @sawanna508
      @sawanna508 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IdaSantti I wondered the same about Hermione's/Penelope's mirrors and the water buddle each of them would be bit bigger then sunglass lenses. So maybe it is immune to it's own star. Sunglasses don't change your own vision only the amound of light hitting your eyes.

  • @KudaKeileon
    @KudaKeileon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Weird thought: Spiders have eight legs. Snakes have none. Do spiders run from the Basilisk because a spider stole its legs?

  • @keithg460
    @keithg460 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Someone wrote a book analyzing Snape's character. They had an interesting point about this chapter.
    Normally, whenever Harry or Ron speak out against Malfoy and curse him out or something, Snape docks points or gives detention. After Malfoy said he thought Granger should die, Ron wanted to attack him and he cursed him all the way to the next class.
    Snape witnesses this but does nothing. No detention for trying to attack Malfoy. It follows that in this one instance he agrees with Ron and thinks that Malfoy went way too far with that comment.

  • @RiseeRee
    @RiseeRee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thestrals are also amazing at navigation apparently, so it would make sense if Mr. Weasley used some part of a thestral to animate the car.

  • @jonathanreal8018
    @jonathanreal8018 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe people did talk to Myrtle. Her story about her death isn't all that useful on it's own. She saw a monster and died. Hermione put together the pipes idea because Harry could hear it in the walls. Without that clue dying in a bathroom seems coincidental, and even if you do search the bathroom there's nothing to find without knowing parseltongue.

  • @DeborahBarker-dh6nk
    @DeborahBarker-dh6nk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Best part of Sunday morning ! Thanks , guys .

  • @Vi_Vi_1
    @Vi_Vi_1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I always wonder if, after the series concludes, Hogwarts has an issue with giant spiders. By then, the basilisk is dead AND Aragog is dead. We spend most of book 7 away from the school and when we are there it's all battle, so it's hard to tell from that, but presumably with those two barriers removed it would be plausible that his children would start attacking the school lol. At the very least, it probably went from "pretty dangerous" to "an outright death sentence" to enter the forest

  • @zimonzieclown1633
    @zimonzieclown1633 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    15:24 There's an AU fanfic out there where Harry is a girl, and the events of the second book wrap up around January-February; the few chapters after the climax are basically just a summary of the rest of the school year until the final scene at King's Cross. That just tickled me.

  • @BilliamJoyBoy
    @BilliamJoyBoy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    45:10 could they be using time turners to sleep while roaming the halls?

  • @vaguely-humanoid
    @vaguely-humanoid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey brothers- love the podcast. Just wanted to give my two cents on the glasses/ petrification issue. I figured that Myrtle actually was petrified by the basilisk (as a result of her glasses), and then properly killed by young Tom Riddle. I feel like this solves both the glasses issue and the question of whether it counts as Voldemort killing her himself to make a Horcrux. It of course makes sense that the last thing she remembers is the eyes and her body seizing up (indicative of petrification rather than death, IMO). It also makes it more reasonable to me that those in charge might assume that Aragog killed her. I figure making a Horcrux involves some violence or desecration to the victim, so in recovering her body, they might not think basilisk. After all, a basilisk kill from the eyes wouldn't leave marks, and thus might also appear to be an Avada Kedavra kill- so it doesn't make sense to me that the assumption would be a beast. This also solves the issue of why Dumbledore didn't realize it was a basilisk in the intervening fifty years- because myrtle's death didn't look like a basilisk kill. Idk just something I've been thinking about lately- esp as yall keep mentioning the glasses issue. Anyway, this is my favorite sunday ritual- keep up the good work :)

  • @Ralph-rr9iv
    @Ralph-rr9iv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I always was team Ron Hermonie since book 2. I think those 2 were meant for each other.

  • @newtidek
    @newtidek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These episodes really allow to me to relax before a new stressful week starts, I genuinely can’t thank you guys enough for what you do.

  • @davidjames8331
    @davidjames8331 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wonder if the flying cars sentience has anything to do with Ron trying to use magic on it and then his wand snapping in half. Maybe that magic went into the car and changed it

  • @triforceofcourage100
    @triforceofcourage100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m going to say that Newt did not give Hagrid Aragog’s. On paper it makes some sense both functioning on a very similar wavelength. However there’s a very big difference, Hagrid is naive about beasts while Newt is not. Newt would be very aware of how dangerous an acromantula would be and how dangerous a place being surrounded by wizards would be for it not to mention the dangers that the beast would pose to humans. Aragog is venomous as noted by Slughorn and venom from something even a fraction of Aragog’s size would kill very quickly. Even if it was the ultimate goal to release Aragog into the forest Newt would have never wanted that as doing that no doubt did massive environmental damage to the beasts in the forest. (Sidenote I am one hundred percent sure that the only thing keeping the Acromantulas from taking over the entire forest was probably the centaurs acting as their limiting factor.) Hagrid probably got the egg from some dark wizard hoping to get rid of evidence of smuggling

  • @RiseeRee
    @RiseeRee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them out at the time that Hagrid was in school? Also he was in his 3rd year so he would have only just begun Care of Magical Creatures so maybe he just hadn’t learned enough yet.
    Also! Speaking of Care of Magical creatures, since we know that magical crossbreeds are possible (skrewts) maybe they’re unsure that they could even guess what the creature in the CoS even could be. It’s not like magical crossbreeding was outlawed when Slytherin was teaching.

  • @remyhocage9854
    @remyhocage9854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for another podcast. It has become our Sunday night treat. Appreciate HP being kept alive & interesting.

  • @newlifechristianfellowship190
    @newlifechristianfellowship190 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this series so much! I listen to it every Sunday. I have a what if for you, What if Harry hadn’t sat next to Ron on the first day of school?

  • @maryeastman6550
    @maryeastman6550 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't think it was Newt who gave him the spiders egg. I believe it was just a traveler who was trying to get rid of it before it was found on him.

  • @jackaylward-williams9064
    @jackaylward-williams9064 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Funny story, when I was a kid, I had this imaginary friend who would always have a monster with him from whatever piece of media I was the most interested in at the time to serve as a bodyguard whilst he was running round fighting bad guys, and after he’d dispensed with the omnidroid and the dalek that he’d built (but before he’d created an inter dimensional portal to Avalar in order to hoick Spyro into our universe), he bred a basilisk using the prescribed “chicken egg under toad” method, and to make sure that none of them were killed, him and his companions (a fourth Aristocat and a cartoon version of Auntie Mabel who appeared in an interactive game on the CBeebies website) would simply wear glasses when they were in its presence, which worked in their favour given that most of their enemies were killer rabbits, and we all know that rabbits have perfect eyesight because of all the carrots that they eat.
    In spite of this, I never actually made the connection that Harry should have been protected by his glasses, but I find it funny that I accidentally managed to predict the online debates on the subject that would ensue in the coming years.

  • @parthpatel-vs3iu
    @parthpatel-vs3iu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    34:49 Hagrid is known to raise werewolf cubs under the bed and since according to harry potter timeline that was 50 years ago the werewolf in the forest during harry’s time is most likely the same cubs that grown or maybe the offspring of the them and since hagrid raised them they could also have a similar relationship to hagrid like aragog where they don’t attack him or the students

  • @CarrotsKing
    @CarrotsKing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always thought that the Ford Anglia was sent to Harry and Ron's aid by Dobby. I've only realized that it probably wasn't when watching your videos cause Ben mentioned it once before. The theory of a loyal car is pretty fun, maybe it absorbed the Forbidden Forest's magic because it's been there for so long?

  • @jb888888888
    @jb888888888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    49:50 The Monster Book of Monsters also has some sort of sentience. It will attack you unless you stroke its spine.

  • @bea9571
    @bea9571 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:08 oh my goooood, I literally finished The Two Towers (LotR book 2) yesterday... the Shelob reference is pretty fresh.

  • @Allison-ij9ye
    @Allison-ij9ye 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the podcast. I look forward to listening every week!

  • @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
    @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if the Ford Anglia is a horcrux? Or at least similar. Arthur put so much of his magic (part of himself,effectively) into it that his soul/consciousness can give the car sentience but the car is still part of him,an extention of his being,so it still defends his children.
    Orrrrr during the first wizarding war Arthur killed a death eater and made a horcrux. Misuse of muggle artificats must mean he's coming into contact with dangerous dark magic regularly so creating an extra layer of protection would be smart. He also survives Nagini's poison despite how long it takes for Harry to tell Dumbledoor what's going on and Dumbledoor then sending someone to get him. I mean,it kills Snape in a matter of minutes,there's no way Arthur could survive unless he had a horcrux and so was never at risk anyway. This would also explains why he's willing to stitch himself up as opposed to having it done magically,he knows if something goes wrong with the stitches it won't hurt him

  • @jeremytung1632
    @jeremytung1632 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Makes sense to me that spiders are naturally afraid of the basilisk, because for one the spiders have eight eyes, and letter number B they can’t close them.

  • @kristenkarvouni1708
    @kristenkarvouni1708 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so enjoying this! Thank you for this podcast!! 🙏💗

  • @pb99-z3r
    @pb99-z3r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    45:51 Not just that but why isn't McGonagal outside the Fat Lady portrait? If All the house heads were standing outside their respective houses' common rooms they would have seen anyone leaving the premises at night.

  • @heylolp9
    @heylolp9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My thought on the Diary being bought in Vauxhall Road is that it's close to his orphanage and he just wanted something inconspicuous to anchor him to immortality before he started his vanity collection of Hogwarts Memorabilia

  • @kathrynrhall
    @kathrynrhall 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    52:00 😂 I’m having a mental image of the car following the thestrals to pull the carriages at the end of term. Then it is just in line and the students get in it instead of a carriage.

  • @donb7519
    @donb7519 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a great bday to have this to watch

  • @ugly-duckling123
    @ugly-duckling123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00:50 Spiders actually feel vibrations using the hairs on their legs to tell them where food is or about danger.
    Also Tarantula's use their hairs as a defense - is something is getting too close, they rub their back legs against their abdomen releasing hairs into the air which could get into the eyes, nose, mouth, of the predator.

  • @joelf1
    @joelf1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The spiders seem very insisting to not talk about the basilisk, so my new theory is, that it's called Bruno. I mean, think about it, it's leaving in the walls too and has for a long time. Slytherin's color is green... It's all there.

  • @jasonburt8069
    @jasonburt8069 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The idea, of the Anglia's sentience, as well as other magical objects, sparked a memory from another book. The magic used by wizards may unknowingly carry with it various sentiments or ideas, which are imprinted onto the target of the spell. Like the way some care for their vehicle like a family pet. The enchanted object may show signs of a personality. Just an idea...
    Anyway, great podcast, so far. Good luck, and have fun with the upcoming tour.😊

  • @t.j.armendariz354
    @t.j.armendariz354 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Harry commenting Dumbledore was the best was also in view of how everyone perceived him when he did teach regularly
    Also it just occurred to me, but some film cameras let you frame the photo by seeing a reflection of what the lens sees and then moving the mirror when you click the shutter, that could explain Colin not dying

  • @Gnarlf
    @Gnarlf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In regards to the diary:
    In my mind Tom learned about Hocruxes and how to do them, but has not yet acted upon it.
    The diary is something Tom bought to keep his personal notes in and made sure, it could magically conceal them.
    Coukd even be, that it was some kind of progression list about the chamber, how far he came to finding it and what the results of the attacks were.
    So he would have that diary on him, while unleasing the basilisk again.
    Myrtles death was not planed and came by surprise for Tom, but he wasn't going to let that opportunity go to waste and attempted to create a Hocrux. At that point in time, the Diary was his most significant possession at hand, so he used it.

  • @missautumn764
    @missautumn764 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The speed at which I click these is unmatched.

  • @ambiverter
    @ambiverter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    37:09 No, the Ford Anglia already had some sentience, because it "threw" Ron and Harry out after crashing into the Whomping willow, and "Ran away" into the forest with its lights blazing "angrily"...
    Probably to do with Arthur's magic...

  • @Boundwithflame23
    @Boundwithflame23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Ford Anglia’s sentience kinda reminds me of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

  • @rodneyowens9918
    @rodneyowens9918 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NOOO. We're y'all throwing shade at Hot Dogs? Idk how I'm going to keep listening to these episodes after hearing that. (Easily, these pods are amazing)

  • @Kngofkngs
    @Kngofkngs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    House Centipedes are the only bug that gives me the creeps, lol.
    Insta-kill on sight. IdgaF what benefits they have, lmao.

  • @solcarlosofficial
    @solcarlosofficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did the expel Hagrid? Could they use the truth serum and he would be able to prove he didn’t do it.

  • @BilliamJoyBoy
    @BilliamJoyBoy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    52:14 the car has a great sense of direction…

  • @lanceholder7794
    @lanceholder7794 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely love the shrivel fig tangent and ask other tangents

    • @ailynrenee1796
      @ailynrenee1796 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll second this!

  • @NTN.Grudzinski
    @NTN.Grudzinski 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    51:00 you mean Demiguise? Testrals are invinsible for those who have never witnes the death, but the Demiguise can turn invisible at will which would make more sense. However I think it's more about the chameleon charm ;)

  • @mitchellcarpenter1279
    @mitchellcarpenter1279 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey brother loving the pod cast I’ve been watching you for years can’t get enough!! I’d love for you guys to make a Harry Potter or Disney theory video that is just a whole bunch of small fun theories that don’t need their own entire video or series if you have any like that

  • @maialuttikhuizen1382
    @maialuttikhuizen1382 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only thing that could explain the problem with the glasses not preventing the basilisk from killing myrtle in my opinion is that all of the other items used obscured the victims' vision, or let them see the eyes without looking directly at them, while the glasses are intended to make it easier for the user to see. The water and mirror created a reflection, nearly headless nick distorts whatever is behind him, etc.

    • @LizLuvsCupcakes
      @LizLuvsCupcakes 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, she WAS crying- maybe she'd taken them off and had them in her pocket or hand or something?

  • @statisticallysound
    @statisticallysound 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    DOES THIS MEAN THE FORD ANGLIA HAS SEEN DEATH??!?! (If it befriended the thestrals in the Forbidden Forest)

  • @darthpotato3566
    @darthpotato3566 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe Myrtle was petrified first. We only have her own account to go off on how she died, she wouldn't know the difference between being killed by the Basilisk and being petrified first and then Tom finishing her off.

  • @Harry-Hartmann
    @Harry-Hartmann 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A Very Good Podcast 👌🏻👍🏻

  • @Zeke_O3773
    @Zeke_O3773 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dunno if I would be so quick to exonerate Hagrid on the say so of a giant spider that just told his family to eat me. 😂 I mean, Hagrid turned out to be innocent but it would’ve taken a bit more convincing from someone that doesn’t think I look delicious.

  • @arrowheadanimations5111
    @arrowheadanimations5111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Brothers! Loving the podcast, eagerly looking forward to the rest of the series. Bit of a "What If" question for you guys: What If, Lockhart wasn't a fraud? Like if all his stories were legit. How would that effect events in this book? Would love to hear you guy's take on this.

  • @joasegoans3709
    @joasegoans3709 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something I've thought while hearing to you two is: why is everybody so sure the events of 1942 and 1992 are connected? They're actually no similar at all, since in 1942 only one person was attacked and was killed while in 1992 several people are being attacked and they're all getting pretified
    That has always feel weird to me, specially when thinking how a person who was killed by the basilisc would look. I think it's fair to asume the basilisc eyes have the same effect as the Avada Kedavra curse, where you just stop living with no other sign, so, if Dumbledore suspects Tom Riddle in 1942, wouldn't he have thought that Tom just killed Myrtle and used the Chamber of Secrets as a cover to incriminate Hagrid?

    • @takumi2023
      @takumi2023 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody was sure until Myrtle confirmed it when Harry asked how she died. The only connection is the location where Myrtle haunts, the bathroom. As Harry wondered, what if she never left? Everyone else is sure because we've read the series multiple times.

    • @takumi2023
      @takumi2023 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Further clarification, there were clues hidden throughout the story linking the two together. The first one was Dumbledore saying that the CoS had indeed been opened again. The second clue was Malfoy saying someone died the last time the CoS opening. The final clue was the memory when Harry asked Tom Riddle if he know who opened the CoS.

  • @kozuet9537
    @kozuet9537 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always makes for a great Sunday! Question - how do you think they came to know of how the horcruxes were able to be destroyed by basilisk venom? I forget if they already knew that or if it were discovered by Harry and Dumbledore. Is it just by chance that Harry happens to have access to the venom? Or is it something that came to be as Herpo the foul was also the first person known to create a horcrux was also the one who invented the basilisk? Could it have been remorse? Remorse was what led Herpo giving himself (realized or not) freedom from his undeath and thus actions to be used against those who would use his darkest art?

  • @ClareBearCB
    @ClareBearCB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i dont think tom riddle bought the diary himself... i always assumed that one of the adults at the orphanage bought it for him and maybe he had some subconscious connection to it being maybe the only gift he ever got growing up.

  • @the_speed_attack9345
    @the_speed_attack9345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats on 30k 🎉🎉🎉

  • @OneJumpMan33
    @OneJumpMan33 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A CAMERA LENS IS A MIRROR. IN EVERY INSTANCE THEY ARE SEEING THE BASSALISKS REFLECTION. Actually scratch that idk if you'd call looking through nick as a reflection. Probably more of a refraction tbh. But still. It lends credence to glasses not working

  • @anshgoel6010
    @anshgoel6010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey brother, I have a theory why Percy was being so secretive about his dates with Penelope. We know he is a fifth year and at the end he gets 12 owls. According to you guys he is bound to have a time turner. So I think that he was using the time turner to get the time for the date.
    So basically one Percy is in Griffindore common room studying whereas other Percy is on a date with Penelope.
    He keeps it so secretive so that no Griffindore sees him first in the common room and then in some other place in the castle.
    The reason to choose the dungeons is because Griffindore hates Slytherin and no Griffindore will go there

  • @eweasel1
    @eweasel1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mytle had been crying in the bathroom when she was killed. Perhaps she had taken off her glasses to wipe her eyes.

  • @LangThoughts
    @LangThoughts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that Aragog can speak is not unique in the Fantasy Genre; In the Silmarillion, it's revealed that Shelob is the daughter/descendant of an eldritch spider named Ungoliant, that even the meticulous Tolkien didn't give an origin too, who speaks, and teams up with Morgoth, who was the big bad before Sauron, and was Sauron's boss, and Ungoliant and Morgoth speak.to each other It's also implied that the spiders of Mirkwood are lesser (then Shelob) descendants of Ungoliant.

  • @hannahsells7841
    @hannahsells7841 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Brother! Started watching y’all as a date night when my husband and I were super broke and have loved the show ever since. A couple of thoughts on the Anglia. The car was already sentient before the forest, because it “waived its wipers in protest” and “had enough” when it threw the boys out on the lawn. Which is weird to me because this book is where we learn Mr. Weasley’s maxim about not trusting things that can think for themselves if you can’t see where it keeps it’s brain. But I like to think ol’ Art learned that the hard way by enchanting things and, in keeping with his opinions on muggle artifacts, continues to do things he knows he shouldn’t. This might also explain some clocks and the mirror. Or maybe the ghoul was also once a pair of smelly socks or something! Perhaps they progress further and further after attaining sentience.

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @1:06:41
    Harry is actually smarter than he shows in these books. He's smarter than Dudley, but would get punished for it. He's smarter than Ron, but Ron would get super upset with him for being a "know-it-all". Harry, not wanting an upset Ron because he's clinging on to his first ever friend since prior to losing his parents, rather than tapping into his full potential from the get go. Harry's grades could also be one letter higher (give or take Snape's bias) across the board, and that does include History. Divination is different, because some of it's easy from using your own schedule to predict the future, because you know which classes would have specific dangers. Other times, having the third eye of sight definitely more nuanced than that. People like Hermione and especially McGonagall have no way of appreciating the art of Divination because they're more science focused. It's similar to how Snape describes the art of Potion Making. He's a natural Potioneer, able to discern how to fix and/or improve Potions from a glance and basic information alone. Not everyone had that subtle talent, which upsets Snape even outside his own bias.
    But point is, Harry holds back, and this is just a brief glimpse into what his potential actually is.