Difficult Mormon Missionary Stories Pt. 1

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  • @mormonstories
    @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ep. 1561: th-cam.com/video/tlwvj7mEzII/w-d-xo.html
    Ep. 1568: th-cam.com/video/bBVbpt013mA/w-d-xo.html
    Ep. 1492: th-cam.com/video/eyxzgQzDhiY/w-d-xo.html
    Ep. 1681: th-cam.com/video/icNIqz1b1Uk/w-d-xo.html

  • @rachelong3755
    @rachelong3755 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I love this idea of pulling highlights from episodes together into a more concise form! Sometimes you just don't have enough time for a full two-hour episode, so this is a great compromise of formats.

    • @lsun5322
      @lsun5322 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      So true! I love the time stamps on the long eps too, it makes an enormous difference, particularly when you want to go back to a section of a 3 hour video you’ve already watched.

  • @lamoskgr
    @lamoskgr ปีที่แล้ว +46

    6:02 That episode was so hard to watch, especially after he admitted to being belittled online for being a male victim of sexual assault. I hope he receives all the happiness he deserves ❤️

  • @daemon9737
    @daemon9737 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I like this format as well. Compiled clips on certain topics. Love the variety, John. Keep up the great work!!

  • @DarnocRellim
    @DarnocRellim ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Awesome to see the 10-15 minute format.

  • @Mubooza
    @Mubooza ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Great idea! This should be an ongoing series. So many stories to choose from.

  • @dgarciamilla
    @dgarciamilla ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Great format Mormon Stories team. I usually listen to the entirety of the podcast in the background while working out or doing other similar activities. These tidbits with a tag to the full episode, help me choose which episodes are more appealing to me, and more similar to my story. All stories are important, but some are way more impactful for me and those close to me. This helps me in choosing and sharing specific episodes with others needing them too.

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some stories don’t fully go over a missionary experience so we are going through and focusing on a theme. We try to make sure to title the videos based on the overall theme of their story. Thank you for being a listener and glad this helps! 😁

  • @CDRW24
    @CDRW24 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Please do more videos of this format, it's a great idea!

  • @oTheSolidEcho
    @oTheSolidEcho ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These types of videos are great! I really appreciate this length of video. I always want to watch the full interview but this helps when I get busy. Great idea

  • @timnewman1172
    @timnewman1172 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Like the format John, at least it gives people something to chase deeper if they so choose...

  • @normanbonk8064
    @normanbonk8064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Church's approach is correct. Milk before meat. As a convert 3 years ago, this approach has been helpful for me. I have been encouraged tomaster the basics. When I have searched further re BYU lectures, Pearl of Great Price etc., I was never discouraged. Prayers.

  • @lamoskgr
    @lamoskgr ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The first episode was LE-GEN-DA-RY!!! That kid is so gifted, I like him a lot

  • @cadenbigler
    @cadenbigler ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got off my mission a few years ago and can relate to a lot of this! Rules very wildly with different mission presidents

  • @veronicahopelop
    @veronicahopelop ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love this format! Thank you for your work!!!

  • @joetaylor8687
    @joetaylor8687 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Mormonism" works best for people who don't think too much, don't ask too many questions, and don't do too much research. If ye just do as you're asked, and stick to the task. Do as you're told, and don't be too bold.

    • @thandynelani6098
      @thandynelani6098 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Truth

    • @leifleifsen
      @leifleifsen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lies

    • @thandynelani6098
      @thandynelani6098 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leifleifsen Its the truth

    • @leifleifsen
      @leifleifsen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thandynelani6098 because you say so. You imply that all faithful members are willfully ignorant. Doctors, Lawyers, scientists, engineers, professors. They’re just the kinds of people who don’t ask questions etc. you’re ignorance is borderline comical.

    • @thandynelani6098
      @thandynelani6098 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leifleifsen Dude I know what I'm talking about I was a member

  • @walt307
    @walt307 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad these stories came to light

  • @jy285
    @jy285 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Killer highlights video. Very digestible, but I recommend watching each of these full interviews. I loved the first guy’s references to Avatar: The Last Airbender that were common in his mission 😂

  • @maxjenkins7139
    @maxjenkins7139 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great format

  • @scottbrandon6244
    @scottbrandon6244 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    These are tame missionary stories compared to some stories I have heard. It gets more weird in foreign countries outside Canada or the U.S.

  • @joelcastillo1509
    @joelcastillo1509 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please make more bite size more easily consumable snippets of podcasts like this one

  • @SR-bw3sc
    @SR-bw3sc ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kudos 👏 to these speakers and to Mormon Stories' mission here of: informed concent. "It is incumbent upon each individual to question and investigate all things, and to search for truth." -from The Baha'i Faith

  • @crystalchristensen7972
    @crystalchristensen7972 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video ! I loved all those episodes as well. Thank You for everything you do for us!! @MormonStories

  • @justinmasterson4611
    @justinmasterson4611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right on Mormon stories I really like these mini episodes or videos you really get to highlights of the long version

  • @oliver7011
    @oliver7011 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My mission? Great part of my life, also leaving church 6 years later great part of my life!

  • @TheLazyhomesteader
    @TheLazyhomesteader ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We were also told when I was in the MTC (2016) the same thing about avoiding the POGP and D&C

    • @gladtobefreeagain7375
      @gladtobefreeagain7375 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! This will shock TBMs who joined in the 70s & 80s or anyone who attended Institute. It's like it's another whole cult, er religion.

  • @Maryfs1
    @Maryfs1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a really smart format to expand into. Smart people over there!

  • @jasmineacarapi6483
    @jasmineacarapi6483 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On my mission for my first 12 weeks, I was only allowed to read the Book of Mormon. My companion found out I was reading gospel principles and the bible dictionary and reported me to the sister training leaders. I was then told off. I remember I didn’t know what some gospel principles were so a night when my companion was sleeping I would read it in secret……. CANT BELIEVE I FELT NAUGHTY FOR THIS

  • @greenevegiebeast
    @greenevegiebeast ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had a good friend whom was high functioning autistic, his brothers were not. His brothers were both younger than him. They both went on mission. When he was not allowed to. I saw a very smart, young man start to spiral into deep depression and self harm. I'm not Mormon. I tried to help. He moved to Utah when his brothers left to their mission. I haven't heard from him sence.

  • @DrDuke-om3tk
    @DrDuke-om3tk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The good ol church library .. you had to travel to one of those niccce more historic church building outside of the moooorgidoor to find a library that actually was stocked with all the books. Good ol BH Robert's church history

  • @cindihunter9119
    @cindihunter9119 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow! This is interesting and really questions the LDS church's intention of not wanting any missionaries to really know about the real history of the church!

    • @jayztools4038
      @jayztools4038 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are just experiences/opinions of these guests. Out of the 100s of thousand current and former missionaries you will find that all knowledge and records were available to study.

    • @angelamaryquitecontrary4609
      @angelamaryquitecontrary4609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayztools4038 Well, that comforts all the rest of us no end. Good grief, get over yourself.

    • @judgementgames6483
      @judgementgames6483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 I agree that what theu shared should not have happened. I served a mission. Am q convert to the church and I learnt the good and bad sbout church and it's history before my mission.
      Those mission presidents were acting on their own thoughts and desires and not on behave of the church. And for the missionary who was assaulted I do feel genuinely sorry that he had to experience that. Action should have been taken against that Elder.
      With thd story of the mission president allowing Elders to masturbate once a week. That is NOT something the church encourages and was somthing that that mission president allowed. He should have been corrected by church leaders for teaching such a thing. Especially his bias stance towards the sisters vs the elders.
      Over all the point am making is. I'm not excusing what those persons did. It was wrong and totally against our doctrine. But I want persons to remember just like any organization you csn think of. It is ran by imperfect people, and some just do dumb things that unfortunately were overlooked, but this isnt the majority it's actually a minority and these ppl doesn't make the organization bad.

    • @angelamaryquitecontrary4609
      @angelamaryquitecontrary4609 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judgementgames6483 But what on earth is wrong with masturbation? Everybody does it, it's completely normal, and to equate it to 'sin' makes about as much sense as regarding sneezing as sinful. Also - and I speak as a former young person! - if you don't do it, it's ALL you think about.
      I grew up in a very religious RC household, and, I'm afraid to say, I turned into a highly accomplished liar regarding all things I thought my mother had no right to know. If you bind children and young people too tightly, something is going to break.
      I'm so glad my husband's and my children have not grown up like this. My adult son has autism and developmental disabilities; when he starts 'rubbing' , we just ask him to do it in bed so no-one else can - or has to! - watch! What possible harm is done?
      And please don't tell me that LDS missionaries are held to a higher standard. We are all well aware of the beginnings of this religion, and sex was pretty high on the list, despite the present day prudishness.
      I feel genuinely sorry for young people sent out into the world with only rudimentary foreign language skills - they are constantly rejected, and are seen as a standing joke here in the UK. I wouldn't turn Brandon Flowers from my door, but that's about it. What appalling psychological damage must be done to such a young mind by rejection, lack of interest, mockery, loneliness, Verfremdung - I can only imagine that it's done to 'prove' what a terrible place the outside world is. You would receive the same results by sending them out to sell Kirby vacuum cleaners.

    • @judgementgames6483
      @judgementgames6483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelamaryquitecontrary4609 waw, speaking as a Return Missionary I can truthfully say you have been greatly mislead about what it's like to be a missionary. Sorry that a minority of bad experiences speaks for the majority who will tell you they had a different experience.
      I'm not going to speak on the topic of masturbation as I can see nothing I say will make a difference.
      As a Return Missionary. I can tell you that my mission has made me into the person that I am today.
      Not boasting about anything but just stating these because I attribute most of my success from the skills I gain because of a mission.
      I'm great at sales (Now I own my own Business accross 2 countries and on the way to a third branch.
      Those rejections you mentioned. Has shaped me into a person who knows how to control his emotions,
      I know how to handle rejections,
      I'm a better communicator with my wife and son because I learnt how to place myself in others shoes before sharing my opinions.
      There is soo much I can attribute to my mission.
      Does the chuch have it's history? Yes it does ( something that every persons should look at with context ) does that mean the organization is bad? No it doesn't.
      What group or organization doesn't have have a history that is cringed at?

  • @AnthonyFloresCPA
    @AnthonyFloresCPA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great highlight reel! Makes me wanna catch up on the few episodes I missed!

  • @jisezer
    @jisezer ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these short form videos. Thank you to all who shared.

  • @maryanncall3515
    @maryanncall3515 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had a great mission president who actually held regular trainings on how to answer what he called "hard questions" (like blacks and the priesthood, women and the priesthood, abortion, LGBT etc) he even printed out copies of essays about deeper or "hard" questions and gave them to us and encouraged us to look at them during personal and companion study. I served when gay marriage became legal and a seventy from salt lake, C. Scott Grow, came and spoke to us/trained us for several hours about how to show love to everyone. We also had free rage of using the bible, and any other religious resources we could get our hands on. The rule of thumb was if it pointed people to Christ it was okay to use. My mission president would personally call any bishops who were giving us a hard time too and had no problem doing "emergency transfers" if we didn't get along with our companion and sent missionaries home if they ever seriously harmed a companion or someone else or broke the rules (like sexual assault type of stuff) I really had a wonderful experience on my mission and I think it's important to understand every mission and mission president is different. It's unfortunate and deeply saddening to listen to bad experiences, but they definitely are not EVERYONE'S experiences.

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like you had a great Mission President

  • @derektilley669
    @derektilley669 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We weren’t allowed to read anything but the BOM until we had all 6 discussions memorized

  • @darrencollinwood142
    @darrencollinwood142 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bread before meat. The church knows the meat is rotten, so hopefully everyone, especially the impressionable youth and young adults, will be satisfied being forced to choke down bread their whole lives.

  • @Amal-ku9xq
    @Amal-ku9xq ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have heard missionaries describe their mission as a sort of exploitative form of slavery to be honest.

    • @kennethd.9436
      @kennethd.9436 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mission office held my passport. The church can’t have missionaries returning home in an emergency or faith crisis without going to the office first.

  • @mmishelle0101
    @mmishelle0101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you guys for this!!!!!!

  • @beaubiden9293
    @beaubiden9293 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lol we were given a copy of Spencer W. Kimball’s about the evils of masturbation.

    • @stocktonking12
      @stocktonking12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shoulda read it

    • @beaubiden9293
      @beaubiden9293 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stocktonking12 I read it while thinking about your mama.

  • @charlesmendeley9823
    @charlesmendeley9823 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice compilation!

  • @amazonwater7778
    @amazonwater7778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mormon mission is the most High , sophisticated, fancy . Way to deliver the word of God in comparative ways wit Lord Jesus Christ Apostles.

  • @theeight-roadwanderer6286
    @theeight-roadwanderer6286 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The mission is the biggest lie in the church

  • @boysrus61
    @boysrus61 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder where that companion who assaulted his trainee is today. Is he still active? Is he a YM President somewhere? Is he out of the church?

  • @albertosauce9872
    @albertosauce9872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great idea for this format of content!

  • @meganshay
    @meganshay ปีที่แล้ว

    This format is perfect!

  • @billiondollardan
    @billiondollardan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    we weren't allowed to read anything other than the standard works and the miracle of forgiveness on my mission. that was back when we had books tho

  • @ScottJB
    @ScottJB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember in the MTC being gently "corrected" for saying the New Testament was my favorite book of scripture. I was told the BOM was by far the most important. Which sounds insane given the NT is Jesus' life story and teachings.

    • @sjenson6694
      @sjenson6694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the book about white Jewish people from Jerusalem who had horses and steel lol.. it's telling absolutely zero archeologists or DNA researchers find any value in this discredited book of plagiarized nonsense.

  • @paulbrungardt9823
    @paulbrungardt9823 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    To all Mormon women: " Keep Sweet."

  • @hobgoblin1976
    @hobgoblin1976 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And that Teach my Gospel manual still shows traditional artistic depictions of the BoM "translation". Missionaries are to be exempted from what little transparency the Mormon hierarchy has been arm-wrestled into by the internet age.

  • @kelseychristianson128
    @kelseychristianson128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very intelligent young man.

  • @gd8205
    @gd8205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love this! This is like Joe Rogan, doing the long format interviews but providing clips, like 10 min or so. I binge watch those. This isn’t about Rogan but benchmarking the successful formats of the most watched podcaster ever is worth a shot to get this content to those who really need to hear it! Keep it up!
    I’d venture to say your numbers will increase with these. Call it Mormon Stories Clips

  • @torchbearer1973
    @torchbearer1973 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My mission president was excommunicated for allowing the elders to masturbate.

    • @Naturefan354
      @Naturefan354 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you "allow" someone to masturbate? Either a person wants to masturbate and does it or they don't. Nobody can do anything to stop it either

    • @torchbearer1973
      @torchbearer1973 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Naturefan354 All good questions. I don't have the details, I just know that my mission president not only allowed and didn't discipline missionaries for masturbation, he may have encouraged some elders to actually masturbate, which may have led to his excommunication.

    • @elilass8410
      @elilass8410 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Naturefan354 I assume op means that the elders wouldn't be disciplined or sent home if they admitted to masturbating or were caught by their companion, which is what often happens in other missions where masturbation is taken VERY seriously.

  • @azik7571
    @azik7571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice testimony compilation :)

  • @ieatoutoften872
    @ieatoutoften872 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A few seconds after 5:03 the returned missionary (RM) Sister Missionary explains: "I think it was like 80 to 90 percent inactive"
    ----
    The word "it" refers to the ratio of inactive members to active members in a ward. The highest individual authority in a ward is a bishop. So a ward is analogous to a protestant congregation of about 400 including women and children. A bishop is analogous to a pastor of a congregation of that size.
    ----
    I am an RM who served as a full time missionary in Venezuela in 1988 before Venezuela became a communist country. Every city I visited in Venezuela had that same ratio of inactive to active members.

  • @BFDT-4
    @BFDT-4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Book of Mormon: What about the Jaredite Barges? -- Aha!!!

  • @laurencek.1580
    @laurencek.1580 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sounds like some RM returning home with PTSD.

    • @allanlopez3850
      @allanlopez3850 ปีที่แล้ว

      what pstd?

    • @TS-iv9ml
      @TS-iv9ml ปีที่แล้ว

      RMs learning truth post mission

    • @juliebrooke6099
      @juliebrooke6099 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allanlopez3850 ,pTSD is post traumatic stress disorder.

  • @ki4clz
    @ki4clz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where does the LDS church get their canon of scripture from? Why did they decide to use the western Protestant/Sectarian version of the bible

  • @unicorntamer2207
    @unicorntamer2207 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey, MSP! Last week, I wrote my resignation letter/email. I'd love to share it with you. Is there an email address I can send it to?

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Unicorn Tamer - mormonstories@gmail.com

  • @kullikullan
    @kullikullan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I met a couple of missionaries in Sweden when I had just defected from an evangelical cult and bible school. I asked about the bible and they claimed the bible and the Book of Mormon had equal weight in Mormonism. They were trapped. I was not only p***ed off at all cults, I was also waaaaay better at the Bible than they were. They became very uncomfortable, after I won an argument about how you can actually burn in hell for eternityand, I never heard from them again.

    • @kullikullan
      @kullikullan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidjanbaz7728 OK. That's was what my cult taught us though. We didn't do symbolism. Every word in the Bible was the literal truth. This was in Sweden in the eighties, so I doubt you would have heard of it. Now I don't care about bible interpretation since I don't believe in god anymore, but I find religions and cults very interesting.

  • @john-brady
    @john-brady ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting

  • @wiinguyen3683
    @wiinguyen3683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:34 “ they were baptizing people where they needed to have to spend more resources to try and out reach”. So like what happens when you go to a church that has less resources, would god give you less blessings? If that was true than wouldn’t everyone try to go through a church that has the most available resources? If that is true, then what’s the point of having different religious beliefs? Because at that point, it wouldn’t even be about which church or religion is true. It would just be about which church or religion has the most available resources.
    “My religion/church is TRUE because we have more resources to help people”

  • @mikeoyler2983
    @mikeoyler2983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding limited reading, this is nothing new. I served my mission from 2006 - 2008 and we had the same limitations. We were only supposed to read Preach My Gospel, the Bible and the BoM.

  • @jorjadiebold5317
    @jorjadiebold5317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found all those books hard to read, maybe the language, so weird.

  • @nsasupporter7557
    @nsasupporter7557 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you get on this podcast? I need to share my story

    • @elilass8410
      @elilass8410 ปีที่แล้ว

      Send them an email with a quick summary of your story, or check out their website. they're probably booked for a few months though

    • @nsasupporter7557
      @nsasupporter7557 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 😊
      If I don’t hear back right away, I’ll keep emailing them… persistents is a virtue

  • @wardified8566
    @wardified8566 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My family sees me as an apostate heretic for reading the church's "gospel topics essays"

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow!

    • @wardified8566
      @wardified8566 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mormonstories Actively questioning the church is their worry.

    • @IBNED
      @IBNED ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wardified8566 I would not be surprised that their main fear is like in the movie "A Few Good Men." YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH...

    • @wardified8566
      @wardified8566 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IBNED Terrifying for someone to question your absolute truth

    • @IBNED
      @IBNED ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wardified8566 I don't see it as much of questioning as giving more details but I hear what are saying

  • @louhi6015
    @louhi6015 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh wow, you really seem to hit the nerve with this one. Thumbnail works??

  • @williamthompson9969
    @williamthompson9969 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When people get more out of life by choosing their own course with all the benefits and losses such freedom provides, they leave a church like this!
    When people need an extended family they stay! But my family by blood like most true and good families tries to steer me in the right direction for mylife in a general kindly sort of way!
    This church family may pretend to care, but try to borrow 50 bucks off your bishop from the the 10000 dollars you gave last year!
    I wouldn’t think twice about giving my uncle 50 dollars, but the Mormon bishop would be thinking “ the nerve of this guy” as he quietly escorts me out of his office!
    I also don’t usually ask my uncle if he is gay, or does he cheat on his wife , does he watch R rated movies, does he have impure thoughts, does he play with himself, and if he refuses to answer me , or worse does a thump down on me, I don’t then threaten to ban him until he sincerely repents to me with a sincere heart,from ever visiting me again at my humble, 300 million residence I simply call my heavenly home! ( lol)

  • @goog242
    @goog242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What?? I thought everyone in the church was perfect! I just need to be more WOKE. Darn agency, I guess it really does exist!!!

  • @exmodeadpool
    @exmodeadpool ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On my mission I was like Hans Landa, but instead of Jews, I hunted JWs. I knew all their weaknesses and tricks.
    I'm mostly kidding. My JW investigator didn't want to listen to my companion or other missionaries, because they couldn't use the Bible properly.
    Also, I was extremely bored reading the standard works, so I was reading talks like "True Meaning of the Atonement", by Cleon Scousen (if I remember correctly). One time I was given a fiction book about the Templars, similar to The Da Vinci Code I read it through in 4 days. It is similar in size to the BoM, but it takes months to go through that boring crap.

  • @amazonwater7778
    @amazonwater7778 ปีที่แล้ว

    God the father said in the last days I will pour the spirit of truth. It is the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit won’t heal deceases in an unholy place , and will lead to the truth and lord Jesus Christ.

  • @jessekelley
    @jessekelley ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you have a picture of Emily in the thumbnail but she is nowhere to be seen in the video?

  • @jimmymendez9995
    @jimmymendez9995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy Mormon church

  • @sean9522
    @sean9522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did the same thing on my mission out in Pennsylvania. We had a “dial an anti” as well affectionately called him. His first name was Greg, not sure what his last name was. He would put on various messages on an answering machine you could call in and hear a short diatribe about something or the other. One week’s offering was all the grammatical changes made by the prophet Joseph Smith between the original manuscript and the printer’s manuscript (remembering that Joseph dictated the Book of Mormon to several scribes). Greg’s reasoning was thus: “if the translation of the Book of Mormon came by the gift and power of God, Joseph had no right to tamper with it!” And herein lies the problem with all those assertions about how wrong the Mormon church is. The assertions themselves are wrong in the first place. Joseph Smith’s translation was not the problem but problems are found in the way helpers transcribed it!!! Joseph had every right to proofread and clarify his translation, when one sees him as a true prophet of God! Whether it’s baptism for the dead, translation of the Book of Mormon, if one cares enough to beyond the shallow assertions made, one will inevitably find that the original premise of the argument against the church and its doctrine is false to begin with. Such as apparent contradictions between “no man has seen God at any time” in John, then “Moses and 70 of the elders of Israel saw the God of Israel” in Deuteronomy. Antis will use the scripture in John to “prove” that no one ever saw God, and try to debunk Joseph Smith’s first vision, and ignore all the other obvious scriptures in the Bible which support that Joseph’s vision of God the Father and the son Jesus Christ is not a false possibility, at least. What about matyr Stephen when as he was being stoned to death, saw the heavens open and saw God and Jesus at God’s right hand?!! And so on and on it goes with this stuff. The DNA argument that there is no DNA matching or markers in common between Native Americans is another assertion. Yes, there are native Americans who origin doesn’t include Hebrew DNA. But as the story keeps coming out about DNA, we find that among groups of Native Americans they share at least 5 markers with some Jewish groups and by no means is Jewish blood homogenous in this regard. Book of Mormon civilization was not Mayan!it is Hopewell! And answers about, where there horses in ancient America etc etc was what Book of Mormon people called horses actually the horses of the Old World or another beast of burden like the Llama?! We don’t really know. So…running into this anti stuff, hold onto your hats, so to speak, so many of
    these assertions trying to get LDS people to shake their faith are simply false.

    • @timhazeltine3256
      @timhazeltine3256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the Hopewell Culture located in North America was the lds civilization in the new world, why would lamas, an animal that was only found in South America be present? Also, the premise that people from the Mediterranean were responsible for civilizations in the new world is demeaning to indigenous peoples because it implies they were not sufficiently intelligent to do so on their own. I also recommend you take a deeper dive into DNA and the science behind it to get a better understanding of "markers" and what they mean. Finally, you must find it deeply unsettling, if not spiritually threatening that people have left your faith or you would not have responded to this video. Perhaps it would be more healing to let these people go forward with their lives without using their stories as ammunition for defending your religion.

  • @jaredmora3566
    @jaredmora3566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's entirely his fault and his parents. You don't just jump into anything without researching first( if it can be found). Before I left my mission, I knew the majority of counter arguments against the church and scriptures. Other I learned in my mission. Then, after my mission, I studied them. I'm still active.

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว

      We invite you to view our LDS Discussion series: LDS Discussions - An Examination of Mormon Truth Claims
      th-cam.com/play/PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced.html

  • @grannyvroomvroom2523
    @grannyvroomvroom2523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, missionaries are given "quotas"? Yikes!

  • @stanfordhiga2135
    @stanfordhiga2135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my mission they formed a youth soccer league and in order to play you had to be baptized. The league was feee and hundreds of kids were baptized 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @NoWayCraig
    @NoWayCraig 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sooo you just laid there and didn’t resist at all?? Didn’t even say stop?? U just went along with it?? That’s not something a normal male would do regardless of their mental state…it’s just so strange that u tell the story like you had zero choice in the matter. Children don’t have a choice. Grown adult males do. It’s not like ur life was in danger. I dunno, it’s just weird af

  • @elche1976
    @elche1976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I was kinda getting bored of it..."
    Ummm, that's a him problem. Small minds need help. Also, those topics are not secret. If you don't know where they are before, it's is because you are low information and not paying attention.
    These guys are in an echo chamber trying to validate themselves. Missionaries are there to teach the basics anyway, not profound doctrine. But these delicate people need their feelings validated. But Dehlim, no less. The hypocrite of hypocrites. Outstanding.

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Half our audience has never been Mormon. I don’t think the echo chamber claim is gonna stick. Try again.

    • @elche1976
      @elche1976 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mormonstories truth doesn't cease to be truth because of your opinion.
      "I was bored. " "No one told me." "They wouldn't let us. Weak excuses. Anyone who gives a feeble attempt to look will learn for themselves that these are signs of weak individuals looking for someone to tell them their weakness is ok.
      But you go girl.

  • @hobgoblin1976
    @hobgoblin1976 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:14 someone should teach this young lady what a non sequitur is.

  • @MightyChange22
    @MightyChange22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait to see the look on your faces when you see the truth lol

  • @allenentsminger6603
    @allenentsminger6603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of half truths here

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can always watch the full interviews to get their full stories.

  • @vipergch
    @vipergch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such BS. What these guys are saying is so not true. The church encourages you to learn learn learn. Take the opportunity to get to know Christ and build upon it.

  • @ridingwilding760
    @ridingwilding760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a warped interpretation of what I hear. Anyone, at anytime can look up these essays. While in the MTC it is a limited amount of time, if there is a foreign language to learn time is at a premium. You are learning how to share and teach the basics of the gospel. Debating and discussion about in-depth doctrine isn’t the focus. In fact the belief is that those that are open to our Heavenly Fathers guidance it’s the Holy Spirit that is the true teacher. That with prayer and scripture reading along with learning the basic principles investigators can know for themselves the truth. It’s not the knowledge from a 19 year old boy debating or convincing but the Holy Spirit that is the true testifier of Christ and his gospel.
    This young man could at anytime prior or with his free time while on his mission or after follow the guidance of the leaders of the church and seek out and study the words of leaders.

  • @jacenye8745
    @jacenye8745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the name of your youtube channel purposefully deceptive? I've watched several episodes and a more appropriate name would be "Anti-Mormon Stories Podcast". Although I can't be the first person to have suggested that...

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you consider anti-Mormon?

    • @jacenye8745
      @jacenye8745 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mormonstoriesThe material produced on this channel is pro-Mormon?

  • @Diggs4Dogs
    @Diggs4Dogs ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol The church isn’t keeping anything from missionaries. He read it. It’s there. Sorry you weren’t prepared to serve your mission 😅

  • @sake9305
    @sake9305 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tell Jessie Funk to stop disrespecting Ghana with her awful lies. It is unworthy of someone who calls themselves a follower of G-d. If the Church gives a platform to people like her it brings into question the ability to follow Church teachings. Whomever gave her the ability to spew hate, filmed, edited and posted that disgusting collection of lies should be ashamed of themselves.

  • @allanlopez3850
    @allanlopez3850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you are the return missionary that didn't treasurized your mission. i am also a return missionary i treasurized every moment i feel the love of Christ because i impart love to those people around me

    • @elyseparker5333
      @elyseparker5333 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's how you interpret this? He learned more and that made him realize the truth!

    • @allanlopez3850
      @allanlopez3850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elyseparker5333 in the mission field there are two kinds of truth. a truth that you can make yourself away in the church because you are a fault finder. second a truth that can benefit your spiritual welfare for this life and in the life's to come. in the mission the real mission is yourself.

    • @brooklynparkse
      @brooklynparkse ปีที่แล้ว +7

      🚩🚩🚩

    • @spike7752
      @spike7752 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well we know who will be first in line when it's time to drink the kool-aid.

    • @mormonstories
      @mormonstories  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Did you watch the other 3 stories shared in this segment?

  • @allenentsminger6603
    @allenentsminger6603 ปีที่แล้ว

    John I really am not liking you

    • @sjenson6694
      @sjenson6694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crying about the truth makes you a snowflake doesn't it?

  • @maxjenkins7139
    @maxjenkins7139 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great format